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Post by blatantfowl on Oct 21, 2014 19:09:30 GMT
Tony has banged their heads together.... www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29699434Adel Taarabt: QPR chairman apologises for club fall-out Queens Park Rangers chairman Tony Fernandes has ordered midfielder Adel Taarabt and manager Harry Redknapp to end their ongoing public row. In a statement, Fernandes said the pair had caused "embarrassment" with their dispute over the Moroccan's fitness and apologised to fans for their conduct. "I have spoken to them both personally," Fernandes said. "Both have been notified of our disappointment regarding their handling of the situation." The statement continued: "The club's entire focus is now on the Aston Villa fixture next Monday and hopefully, after a tough few days, we can turn a negative into a positive and build on Sunday's improved display." In a row that began after QPR's 3-2 defeat by Liverpool on Sunday, Redknapp described Taarabt as "the worst professional I have ever come across". Taarabt and Redknapp's public row Sunday 19 October Redknapp accuses Taarabt of being "three stone overweight" in the post-match news conference following QPR's 3-2 injury-time defeat by Liverpool. Tuesday 21 October (Morning) In an interview with the Daily Mail, Taarabt defends his fitness, showing off his stomach in photographs, and saying he was "fuming" when not selected. Tuesday 21 October (Afternoon) Redknapp hits back at Taarabt in an interview with the Sun, saying the Moroccan is the "worst professional I have ever come across". Tuesday 21 October (Evening) QPR chairman Tony Fernandes calls for an end to the public row and apologises for the "embarrassment" to the club's fans. The Moroccan, whom Redknapp claimed was "three stone overweight", had defended himself in a Daily Mail article, saying: "I was desperate to play before the game. I was fuming when I didn't play. It's not true to say I'm not fit. He tried to give an excuse. Adel Taarabt "He is an experienced manager and he should have controlled that situation." But in an interview with The Sun, the QPR manager stood by the comments he made after Sunday's defeat, and said Taarabt's recent weight loss was due to him catching tonsillitis. "He is not fit to play a game, that's the truth," Redknapp said. "He is the worst professional I have ever come across and I have been his only ally at QPR for the past three years. "He doesn't try and I have protected him for too long." The 67-year-old manager also dismissed a photo in which Taarabt showed off his physique, saying even he could look OK if he "could suck my stomach in for a picture". Taarabt returned to Loftus Road in the summer after loan spells at Fulham and Italian giants AC Milan last season. He has not started a game for QPR since 27 August. The newly promoted club are bottom of the Premier League after taking four points from their opening eight games.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 21, 2014 19:26:02 GMT
I would have thought if he had really banged heads together, Redknapp and Taraabt would have both made apologies to the clubs fans for the "embarrassment" caused, but Fernandes did tweet originally that he was in agreement with Redknapp on his thoughts about Taarabt's fitness before deleting that one.
Banging heads, more like papering over the cracks.
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Post by timewaster on Oct 21, 2014 20:56:28 GMT
We should of sold him to Milan for ÂŁ1
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Post by deanusa on Oct 21, 2014 21:20:38 GMT
You need to go trough all your incarnations to get half as intelligent as I am alfa morron. Get a life. I rest my case! so let me do it the right way, you are through and through a big Moron, so go work the night shift and leave this to people like me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:02:09 GMT
I have missed this board
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Post by timewaster on Oct 21, 2014 22:17:17 GMT
Taarabt always causes arguments whether he is in the team or not, the fat bastard
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Post by Bushman on Oct 21, 2014 22:31:48 GMT
I rest my case! so let me do it the right way, you are through and through a big Moron, so go work the night shift and leave this to people like me
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Post by bradfieldhoop on Oct 21, 2014 23:51:40 GMT
havent read all thread but what the f..k are you up to harry!!! have a look a sick note sandro,swp, matty phillips--i dont blame adel for having a pop--harry is the con artist. hes thieved a living on the back of being a good geezer!! not a brain cell between him ,bond and jordan! please google harrys managerial career and tell me what part is impressive! how can phillips be first choice sub on sunday--im just surprised the whole bench werent scratching their heads!
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Post by timewaster on Oct 21, 2014 23:55:57 GMT
havent read all thread but what the f..k are you up to harry!!! have a look a sick note sandro,swp, matty phillips--i dont blame adel for having a pop--harry is the con artist. hes thieved a living on the back of being a good geezer!! not a brain cell between him ,bond and jordan! please google harrys managerial career and tell me what part is impressive! how can phillips be first choice sub on sunday--im just surprised the whole bench werent scratching their heads! Its a well known fact that Jordan has more teeth than brain cells
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Post by bradfieldhoop on Oct 22, 2014 0:00:46 GMT
thanks for making me laugh so late at night
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Post by gthompson66 on Oct 22, 2014 7:23:49 GMT
If you look at the photos of Adel on Mail Online, the fact is that he is not overweight, let alone three stone. It was wrong of Harry to blast one player like that, as if he's some kind of scapegoat for us being bottom of the table.
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Post by paulmason on Oct 22, 2014 7:52:25 GMT
If you look at the photos of Adel on Mail Online, the fact is that he is not overweight, let alone three stone. It was wrong of Harry to blast one player like that, as if he's some kind of scapegoat for us being bottom of the table. Have a look at the vidoe from last week (18-24 seconds) and you tell me if that is the physique of a top class premier league player or a Sunday morning park player. (There are other professional football players around for you to compare him with) www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/171014-qprs-adel-taarabt-nutmegs-armand-traore-in-pre-liverpool-training-2021806.aspxAlso, where in his press conference did he say it was Adel's fault we were bottom? He only spoke about one player because he was only asked about one player. Also, you are aware that Adel was kicked out of two clubs last season for footballing reasons and after such a brilliant time on loan Italy, no one in world football wanted him? We got Adel because no one else wanted him and we are stuck with the one season wonder (championship) for the same reason.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 7:58:25 GMT
If I ran QPR, I'd fine them both - Assuming there's anything in contracts about what they can say to the Press (and given all those tweets from players that Clubs allow, I'm not so sure there are)
Taaarabt For going to the press to respond.
Redknapp for responding to Taarabt in the press
Beyond the pale
If I ran QPR, I'd also want to know if there's truth re what Taarabt actually said re Training, etc
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Post by paulmason on Oct 22, 2014 8:08:17 GMT
If I owned QPR I would ban Adel from Harlington and Loftus Road and I would ship him out at the first opportunity. It would cost me money, but his attitude is a Cancer that needs cutting out before it spreads.
He is a despicable person who is only happy when he can do what he wants when he wants. Since his one season in the Championship, he has done nothing to warrant the hero status he gets from his Harem and it laughable the excuses they come out to defend him with. My favourite is the one trotted out during Ramadan, that he is fat because he has no energy to train, although every other player of the same faith can.
The sooner he leaves the better for everyone and with the help of social media, his Harem can follow Sand Pit FC, to keep tabs on their man.
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Post by NO1QPRNZ on Oct 22, 2014 8:29:24 GMT
Is Blackie still at the Club? I think it would a Job right up his ally to sit down with Tony, Harry, Adel. and his agent.To sort the thing out once and for all for the good of the Club and its Fans.So we can all get on with it as IMO I saw a vast improvement on the pitch.Play like that week in week out and we will move up the League I am sure. UuuuuRrrrrrrrrSssssssss
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 8:43:20 GMT
.... The sooner he leaves the better for everyone and with the help of social med ia, his Harem can follow Sand Pit FC, to keep tabs on their man. You want Taarabt gone, fine. But when you say above.. This is just another "Go Support Chelsea/Fulham" type statement
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 8:59:04 GMT
Wally Downes Jnr Perspective
QPR fans watch pathetic soap opera unfold through their fingersThe ESPN FC crew react to Harry Redknapp's comments concerning Adel Taarabt's weight issues, and believe this may be the last straw with the already out of favour QPR midfielder. Anyone interested in Queens Park Rangers, football or the mockumentary style of television and film perfected by Spinal Tap and The Office, should watch The Four Year Plan. The film, released in 2012, documented a truly shambolic spell at Loftus Road where co-owner Flavio Briatore ran the club with complete abandon, hiring and firing managers on whims. Sadly it was not a comedic piece of cinema; it was a genuine documentary -- an accurate portrayal that accidentally dipped into moments of farce. Aside from unintentionally becoming a funny movie, it marked a nadir for Rangers. Things could not have been more inappropriate at times, with Briatore making team selections from the directors' box and verbally abusing his own managers in expletive-laden rants. So, when Tony Fernandes took over in August 2011, it heralded a new dawn. If only. REDKNAPP vs. TAARABT - Fernandes: This feud must end - Redknapp: He is the worst professional ever - Overweight row: Taarabt hits back - Fat-Gate: QPR boss calls his own player overweight - Downes Jr: Some positives in Liverpool defeat The club is back in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons, once again. After 89 impressive minutes against Liverpool on Sunday that gave fans a glimmer of hope and appeared to show manager Harry Redknapp was up for the relegation fight, the club went into an almighty self-destruct mode. Redknapp, still seething after his tactical errors in the dying seconds led to his side snatching another defeat from the soft wet lips of victory, decided to berate midfielder Adel Taarabt for being overweight, over-paid and unfit. Chairman Fernandes couldn't stop himself from wading in, despite deleting a selection of tweets after the previous defeat against West Ham. "Professional players must be fit. If I do a job, I'm ready to do the job. Full stop. The buck stops at you. It's your body and your career," he wrote, before deleting. A few of his 900,000 or so followers had seen this, as had a couple of national newspapers. By now, they are probably monitoring his feed around the clock waiting for his next gaffe. Anyway, Taarabt then organised a rebuttal with a couple of papers, who took photos of his lean (albeit sucked-in) stomach and he went a step further by criticising Redknapp's tactical nous and accusing him of paying more attention to his phone than the training ground. Just to get everything completely out in the open and in the public domain (where all good in-house disagreements should be, obviously ... ) Redknapp said the only reason Taarabt looked remotely toned was because a bout of tonsillitis had whittled some weight off him. Finally, absolutely finally, before you get bored of this pathetic soap-opera story, Fernandes apologised to the fans for the childish feud. But the 14 players who worked tirelessly against Liverpool deserve a mention too. Despite scoring an own goal, Richard Dunne fronted up and spoke to the media about the agony he was going through and Karl Henry admitted he was racked with guilt for not bringing down Raheem Sterling in the build up to a goal. All that work was later frittered away so a few people could protect their reputation, gain a bit more notoriety and settle a few scores. QPR manager Harry Redknapp criticised playmaker Adel Taarabt for being unfit while also defending his own position at the club. Fernandes courts the media and he enjoys the attention he has worked incredibly hard to get, whether that be on "The Apprentice" in Asia where he is an Alan Sugar-esque figure (worrying in itself), his daily tweets about the running of QPR or the posting of photos from family birthdays. He is a man who wants to be in the public eye and he has employed a very similar man to run his football club. A man who was doing television and newspaper interviews when Fernandes was a young, anonymous accountant. You don't employ Harry Redknapp and then smack his backside when he does too many interviews. In the same way you don't tell Jose Mourinho to play nice or Mark Hughes to smile more. When you dance with the devil, you wait for the song to stop. QPR is a circus again. The club are rock bottom of the table and could be seven points adrift by the start of next week. Yet, instead of having a full-time coach working with players, they have Glenn Hoddle dipping in on a part-time basis. Perhaps the head honchos at Rangers swell with pride when they see "their guy" on television giving his highly regarded opinion on England matches when they should be much more worried about his contribution to a team desperately lacking a plan. At any other club, this might have been a cathartic experience. It could have been the spark that forced Taarabt to get fit or Fernandes to take another Twitter hiatus -- or maybe Redknapp would give the book writing a rest while the club was in turmoil. But that's not the way the club is run. There is a culture around QPR built around blame and celebrity. It started in 2007 when the previous owners let a camera crew film their every move as they blamed other people for their failings. And still, seven years later it is going strong with new protagonists, fresh scapegoats and the same sorry audience coming through the turnstiles and watching begrudgingly through their fingers. Wally Downes Jr. Wally Downes Jr. is a multimedia reporter for Hayters sports news agency in London and a contributor to ESPN FC. He preferred it when QPR were poor and desperate -- like him. Follow him on Twitter at @wallydownes_Jr. www.espnfc.com/club/queens-park-rangers/334/blog/post/2102718/redknapp-vs-taarabt-a-pathetic-carry-on
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Post by paulmason on Oct 22, 2014 9:06:33 GMT
.... The sooner he leaves the better for everyone and with the help of social med ia, his Harem can follow Sand Pit FC, to keep tabs on their man. You want Taarabt gone, fine. But when you say above.. This is just another "Go Support Chelsea/Fulham" type statement No its not, that's all thats left for you to say, as you cant say anything else to trash what I posted. It is quite clear and means his loyal following (Harem), can continue to follow Adel's dive into football's Abyss, via social media.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 9:18:46 GMT
Of course there's more than I can say.
Your characterization is both inane - and even smacks at racism .
But bottom line: If disagree with your view re Taarabt - and I'm not sure where the disagreement is, because no one here is actually praising Adel Taarabt for how he behaves, practices, etc, etc. - then we're clearly in your eyes, not real QPR Supporters.
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Post by harr on Oct 22, 2014 9:37:17 GMT
Sandpit FC / Adels Harem I am totally lost .
I can only assume Adels Harem is people that follow him and think he can do no wrong . I don't know of anyone that thinks TAARABT is totally innocent here . Just the fact he didn't look 3 stone overweight and maybe Harry should not have ranted in that way most of this would have been avoided.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 9:40:30 GMT
Flashback from last season - If only...
No one denies his character "flaws." And no one does (or should) deny his talents
Even if he doesnt do it any more for QPR. Even if he fails elsewhere. Sad waste of brilliance
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Post by Bushman on Oct 22, 2014 9:49:42 GMT
Sandpit FC / Adels Harem I am totally lost . I can only assume Adels Harem is people that follow him and think he can do no wrong . I don't know of anyone that thinks TAARABT is totally innocent here . Just the fact he didn't look 3 stone overweight and maybe Harry should not have ranted in that way most of this would have been avoided. Join the gang!
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Post by steveb66 on Oct 22, 2014 10:04:52 GMT
This will run and run but Adel is neither at his fighting weight nor three stone overweight, both claims are bullshit. If you look at the body fat on AT in the picture the vast majority of footballers are leaner than he is. However, Niko Kranjcar was also very heavy last season but continued to be picked, however, we can see by Kranjcars efforts to get fit and his mindset to wish to play even with a badly broken toe, that he is a very different character mentally. Redknapp has protected/covered up for Taraabt as Warnock did during his tenure and he felt when asked a direct question about Adel to give his opinion. I think his opinion was part fact, part exaggeration and part frustration after the Liverpool result. Most of us would agree that AT was our favourite player 3/4 years ago but the time has come for him to move on IF the club can find any takers. As for Harry...................................... ??
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Post by paulmason on Oct 22, 2014 10:08:13 GMT
Flashback from last season - If only... No one denies his character "flaws." And no one does (or should) deny his talents Even if he doesnt do it any more for QPR. Even if he fails elsewhere. Sad waste of brilliance Mac, This is the bit I don't get. All these videos, highlighting all of the good things Adel can do, yet no one in world football wants him. In all seriousness, apart from the the one season in the Championship, what makes you think he is equipped to be a premier league player. After all, the only thing of note Adel has done in two seasons in the Premier League, with two different clubs, was being kicked out of both of them for footballing reasons?, yet I read sob stories from people on how or why he should be playing every week. Some of the best moments I can remember form QPR's recent history involve Adel in the Championship. That pass to Routledge, those goals in Cardiff, that goal v Swansea, the list goes on, but all I can remember of him in the PL were missed chances. PS: One goal v Fulham does not make him Messi.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 12:16:52 GMT
Standard Tom Collomosse Published: 22 October 2014 AC Milan have leapt to the defence of Adel Taarabt in the ongoing row with Queens Park Rangers boss Harry Redknapp about the playerâs attitude. Both Redknapp and Taarabt could be punished by QPR chairman Tony Fernandes for the bust-up, which saw Redknapp label Taarabt âthree stone overweightâ, only for the Moroccan to criticise his manager for poor training sessions. Taarabt spent the second half of last season on loan at Milan, where he performed well. The Italian club chose not to stump up the ÂŁ6million asking price to make the move permanent but their chief executive, Adriano Galliani, had nothing but praise for Taarabtâs conduct. âI canât talk about the merits of this specific situation and I donât want to get involved in it,â Galliani told Standard Sport. âAll I can say is that when Taarabt was with Milan, he did very well. www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/ac-milan-add-weight-to-adel-taarabts-defence-in-row-with-qpr-boss-harry-redknapp-9810482.html
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Post by alfaranger on Oct 22, 2014 13:10:31 GMT
Standard Tom Collomosse Published: 22 October 2014 AC Milan have leapt to the defence of Adel Taarabt in the ongoing row with Queens Park Rangers boss Harry Redknapp about the playerâs attitude. Both Redknapp and Taarabt could be punished by QPR chairman Tony Fernandes for the bust-up, which saw Redknapp label Taarabt âthree stone overweightâ, only for the Moroccan to criticise his manager for poor training sessions. Taarabt spent the second half of last season on loan at Milan, where he performed well. The Italian club chose not to stump up the ÂŁ6million asking price to make the move permanent but their chief executive, Adriano Galliani, had nothing but praise for Taarabtâs conduct. âI canât talk about the merits of this specific situation and I donât want to get involved in it,â [he said, getting involved in it] Galliani told Standard Sport. âAll I can say is that when Taarabt was with Milan, he did very well. www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/ac-milan-add-weight-to-adel-taarabts-defence-in-row-with-qpr-boss-harry-redknapp-9810482.htmlMy brackets. Just casting around I picked up this: "It is one thing to be at your best when pursuing a new deal or a permanent move from a second-division English side to one of the most famous sporting clubs in the world, and another thing altogether to prove you belong once you have earned that move. Given Taarabt's stellar form and his surprising levels of defensive commitment, it is looking increasingly likely that Milan will pay the fee and bring him to the club on a permanent basis." I was quite interested in the second sentence where he is complimented on his defensive performance juxtapositioned against his comments within the current spat where he says that he doesn't tackle back, he's not that sort of player. It seems that he could be if he's trying to engineer a move. I had been reading through The Mail (that paragon of virtue - or is it parody) and note that he loves QPR and its fans. I wonder, is that the same QPR as the one he mentioned when he went to Fulham? Perhaps if the spat proves fatal then Galliani could pick up Adel cut price, but such cynicism is not worthy really is it
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Post by paulmason on Oct 22, 2014 13:14:44 GMT
QPR would give him away to save the weekly wage, but there are no takers on the wages he wants.
Unless we pay him up, we are stuck with him for the duration of his contract, then he will leave.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 13:16:36 GMT
There's attitude - which STINKS - we all agree. Pretty much agree re training, etc.
Some though seem also to dispute whether he has the TALENT/Skills to succeed at the top level. And some seem to question that. I don't.
That doesnt mean he WILL...But just that he could
(There are quite a few skillful flops as we are all very aware)
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 13:48:19 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 22, 2014 14:42:51 GMT
Adel back in training www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/22/adel-taarabt-back-qpr-training-tony-fernandes-harry-redknappGuardian// Adel Taarabt back in QPR training after Tony Fernandes intervention
⢠Taarabt back in training with Harry Redknappâs first team⢠Redknapp had been engaged in spat with player over fitness ⢠Fernandes orders end to row between player and manager ⢠Taarabt: Iâm being made a scapegoat Dominic Fifield Follow @domfifield Follow @guardian The Guardian, Wednesday 22 October 2014 09.51 EDT Adel Taarabt trained with Harry Redknappâs first-team squad at Queens Park Rangers on Wednesday as club, manager and player attempted the first tentative steps towards a measure of reconciliation after their very public recent fall-out. The QPR chairman, Tony Fernandes, had issued a statement on Tuesday admonishing the pair for the spat which had erupted over the midfielderâs weight and ordered both parties to cease their war of words. The club declined to go into detail over what internal action, if any, had been taken against Taarabt or, indeed, Redknapp with the potential there for both to be fined in the wake of their dispute earlier this week. Taarabt had appeared to bring the club into disrepute with his unauthorised response to Redknappâs claims that he is three stone overweight, comments made after Sundayâs 3-2 defeat to Liverpool at Loftus Road\. The Moroccan could have been fined up to two weeksâ wages for his own comments â he earns ÂŁ65,000-a-week, with the Professional Footballersâ Association monitoring the situation closely â though there was also the possibility that Redknapp could be disciplined with Fernandesâs patience sorely tested by his outbursts first in his post-match press conference and then in print on Tuesday afternoon. The London clubâs squad had been granted two days off after the match against Liverpool, meaning today was the first day manager and player would come face to face since the spat. Taarabt was in attendance at QPRâs Harlington base and is understood to have trained with the first team. While the priority is uniting the squad before next Mondayâs game against Aston Villa â QPR currently prop up the division â any peace between the two is likely to prove temporary with the player, who is contracted until 2016, expected to leave Loftus Road in January, if not before on loan. Fernandesâs statement read: âAs a club, we are fully aware of stories in the press over the last few days regarding Harry Redknapp and Adel Taarabt. We regret these issues being played out in public and both Harry Redknapp and Adel Taarabt have been notified of our disappointment regarding their handling of the situation. I have spoken to them both personally. âOn behalf of the club, I would like to apologise to the QPR supporters for the embarrassment this has caused and confirm that the issue has been dealt with internally. The clubâs entire focus is now on the Aston Villa fixture next Monday and hopefully after a tough few days we can turn a negative into a positive and build on Sundayâs improved display.â Redknapp had accused Taarabt, who has made only two substitute appearances in the Premier League to date this term, of being overweight, prompting the 25-year-old â who spent time on loan at AC Milan last season â to respond: â[Redknapp] spends most of the time in his office but when he gets off the phone he comes down to watch for five or 10 minutes â he never takes a session. The training sessions arenât what I would expect under another manager. They are not as intense, the players arenât as motivated.â The manager subsequently told The Sun: âThe only reason he has lost weight is because he has had tonsillitis. Thatâs the only way we could get any weight off him. He is not fit to play a game, thatâs the truth. He is the worst professional I have ever come across and I have been his only ally at QPR for the past three years. He doesnât try and I have protected him for too long. âThe fitness coaches at QPR, everybody tells me he doesnât try. He doesnât want to run around. I have tried to protect him until now, but the fans have to know whatâs going on. Even I could suck my stomach in for a picture and look okay.â After Taarabtâs loan spell at Milan, the Italian side deemed QPRâs ÂŁ6m asking price for a permanent deal too steep to pursue. However, the Rossoneriâs chief executive, Adriano Galliani, praised the playerâs commitment during that spell at San Siro. âI canât talk about the merits of this specific situation and I donât want to get involved in it,â Galliani told the Evening Standard. âAll I can say is that when Taarabt was with Milan, he did very well. I have read what has happened this week but I donât know the exact nature of it. However, when Taarabt was with us he played well, trained well and behaved as a serious professional.â
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