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Post by qprian on Jan 29, 2012 23:51:42 GMT
Just read elsewhere on this board that at the final whistle QPR fans were singing SWP is a useless W*****r !!!
Although I agree he is a total waste of a space and a poor excuse of a footballer I really think that berating him in front of 16,000 + and his team mates wil probably not do wonders for his confidence.
Like Mackie he is a trier however a trier of limited ability and I do lay into on this board but he is still being played on the left whilst Mackie runs in circles on the right. Its all a mess to be honest and I know that Taarabt and Traore will make a huge difference to the team.
Anyway, can anyone confirm if they were singing it ?
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 29, 2012 23:54:18 GMT
That would be a shame...I think we should remember some of his early games for QPR. If he could do it then.He can do it again...Good luck to him - at QPR
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 30, 2012 0:07:23 GMT
never heard it in r block
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Post by qprthinker on Jan 30, 2012 2:57:56 GMT
Just read elsewhere on this board that at the final whistle QPR fans were singing SWP is a useless W*****r !!! Although I agree he is a total waste of a space and a poor excuse of a footballer I really think that berating him in front of 16,000 + and his team mates wil probably not do wonders for his confidence. Can't agree that SWP is a poor footballer. Ironicially, he is probably the most talented, most skillful player at QPR. (The Tarabt argument can be saved for another discussion). Comparing him to Mackie is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Triumph Dolomite. SWP needs players with pace he can play off. When he's surrounded by mediocre forwards like Helguson and Bothroyd, and a midfield pairing of Derry and Faurlin (who have all the pace of a tortoise on a go-slow march) then it's not realistic to expect him to dazzle. I think there is an added pressure on him to create something out of nothing. Also, he often finds himself running into Cul De Sacs, not because he's dumb footballer (in the vein that Mackie is) but because the supporting cast just aren't really good enough. |
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 6:08:04 GMT
Just read elsewhere on this board that at the final whistle QPR fans were singing SWP is a useless W*****r !!! Although I agree he is a total waste of a space and a poor excuse of a footballer I really think that berating him in front of 16,000 + and his team mates wil probably not do wonders for his confidence. Can't agree that SWP is a poor footballer. Ironicially, he is probably the most talented, most skillful player at QPR. (The Tarabt argument can be saved for another discussion). Comparing him to Mackie is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Triumph Dolomite. SWP needs players with pace he can play off. When he's surrounded by mediocre forwards like Helguson and Bothroyd, and a midfield pairing of Derry and Faurlin (who have all the pace of a tortoise on a go-slow march) then it's not realistic to expect him to dazzle. I think there is an added pressure on him to create something out of nothing. Also, he often finds himself running into Cul De Sacs, not because he's dumb footballer (in the vein that Mackie is) but because the supporting cast just aren't really good enough. Yes totally agree.Mackie gets a pass cos he's got heart and he broke his leg last year.He was not a Prem player before his leg broke and he's not now and he will never will be. If we stay up he will be offloaded to a Championship team.He might get lucky (doubt it tho) and get snapped up by one of the newly promoted teams. |
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 6:35:35 GMT
And people who say theyve got Citeh mates or scum mates who say he's crap and are laughing at us for buying him should remember how much money both those teams have.Its easy to get pissed off with a player after a couple of bad games and call for his head when you know there is a multi squillion international player waiting to take his place.
He seems to be low on confidence but I still recon he will come good.I still want to see him played on the right for a couple of games before I pass judgement.
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Post by paddymace on Jan 30, 2012 7:58:07 GMT
Not sure about the abuse, but, I was one of the apparent 16,000 who screamed in frustration "try going on the outside". I know he's right footed and playing on the left, because Mackie is even more one footed, but, do me a favour.
He really does need to come good, because, we have no forward spark elsewhere.
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 8:44:17 GMT
Just read elsewhere on this board that at the final whistle QPR fans were singing SWP is a useless W*****r !!! Although I agree he is a total waste of a space and a poor excuse of a footballer I really think that berating him in front of 16,000 + and his team mates wil probably not do wonders for his confidence. Can't agree that SWP is a poor footballer. Ironicially, he is probably the most talented, most skillful player at QPR. (The Tarabt argument can be saved for another discussion). Comparing him to Mackie is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Triumph Dolomite. SWP needs players with pace he can play off. When he's surrounded by mediocre forwards like Helguson and Bothroyd, and a midfield pairing of Derry and Faurlin (who have all the pace of a tortoise on a go-slow march) then it's not realistic to expect him to dazzle. I think there is an added pressure on him to create something out of nothing. Also, he often finds himself running into Cul De Sacs, not because he's dumb footballer (in the vein that Mackie is) but because the supporting cast just aren't really good enough. Dont agree with any of that. I see a role for Mackie coming off the bench for 15 minutes at the end of a match, I dont see any role for SWP whatsoever, he is a very very poor footballer with staggeringly bad technical ability. When is the penny finally going to drop for some people in English Football, just because you can run fast, does not mean that you can play Football. SWP would not have "made it" as a footballer in France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Italy etc etc etc. |
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 8:48:12 GMT
Can't agree that SWP is a poor footballer. Ironicially, he is probably the most talented, most skillful player at QPR. (The Tarabt argument can be saved for another discussion). Comparing him to Mackie is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Triumph Dolomite. SWP needs players with pace he can play off. When he's surrounded by mediocre forwards like Helguson and Bothroyd, and a midfield pairing of Derry and Faurlin (who have all the pace of a tortoise on a go-slow march) then it's not realistic to expect him to dazzle. I think there is an added pressure on him to create something out of nothing. Also, he often finds himself running into Cul De Sacs, not because he's dumb footballer (in the vein that Mackie is) but because the supporting cast just aren't really good enough. Yes totally agree.Mackie gets a pass cos he's got heart and he broke his leg last year.He was not a Prem player before his leg broke and he's not now and he will never will be. If we stay up he will be offloaded to a Championship team.He might get lucky (doubt it tho) and get snapped up by one of the newly promoted teams. Scored two goals & set up one against Stoke ( ?! ) And this is someone who is not a winger, yet the stats show he has been more effective than Wright-Phillips, & he is an attacking midfielder. Neither Wright-Phillips or Mackie are good enough as wingers, that much is patently obvious, but Mackie isnt a winger. |
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 30, 2012 9:05:36 GMT
If someone sung that out whilst i was watching i would be totally disgusted end of !
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 9:09:58 GMT
I wouldnt boo him or sing songs about him, apart from talking to the bloke next to me about how useless he is, 4 games in a row now where not one of his cross has beat the first man, you wouldnt even see something like that at non league level, come back Traore & Taarabt as soon as you can, deary me.
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 9:14:05 GMT
Can't agree that SWP is a poor footballer. Ironicially, he is probably the most talented, most skillful player at QPR. (The Tarabt argument can be saved for another discussion). Comparing him to Mackie is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Triumph Dolomite. SWP needs players with pace he can play off. When he's surrounded by mediocre forwards like Helguson and Bothroyd, and a midfield pairing of Derry and Faurlin (who have all the pace of a tortoise on a go-slow march) then it's not realistic to expect him to dazzle. I think there is an added pressure on him to create something out of nothing. Also, he often finds himself running into Cul De Sacs, not because he's dumb footballer (in the vein that Mackie is) but because the supporting cast just aren't really good enough. Dont agree with any of that. I see a role for Mackie coming off the bench for 15 minutes at the end of a match, I dont see any role for SWP whatsoever, he is a very very poor footballer with staggeringly bad technical ability. When is the penny finally going to drop for some people in English Football, just because you can run fast, does not mean that you can play Football. SWP would not have "made it" as a footballer in France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Italy etc etc etc. Mackie is a very average championship player.SWP has done the buisiness in the Prem although he is playing bad at the mo due to lack of confidence and lack of talent around him.He played well against Wolves and Newcastle first time round and Villa.I dont see ANY role for Mackie in our side.He hasnt got his surrogate dad here anymore and I'll be surprised if he's even on the bench once Traore and Adel get back. |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 30, 2012 9:22:12 GMT
Dont agree with any of that. I see a role for Mackie coming off the bench for 15 minutes at the end of a match, I dont see any role for SWP whatsoever, he is a very very poor footballer with staggeringly bad technical ability. When is the penny finally going to drop for some people in English Football, just because you can run fast, does not mean that you can play Football. SWP would not have "made it" as a footballer in France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Italy etc etc etc. Mackie is a very average championship player.SWP has done the buisiness in the Prem although he is playing bad at the mo due to lack of confidence and lack of talent around him.He played well against Wolves and Newcastle first time round and Villa.I dont see ANY role for Mackie in our side.He hasnt got his surrogate dad here anymore and I'll be surprised if he's even on the bench once Traore and Adel get back. So when he runs at a defender and ends up falling over his own feet that's because of the lack of talent around him?? When his crosses never beats the first defender that's also because of the lack if talent?? SWP has had about 2 good games all season and as far as I can see offers nothing to the team at the moment. |
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Post by steveb66 on Jan 30, 2012 9:26:54 GMT
If that was the case A. I never heard it and B. people chanting it want their brains tested. SWP is a paradoxical player, for example at one point he picked up the ball and managed to find his way through four Chelsea players but (guess what?) he then played a lame pass.
I still feel he can shine at QPR as he is capable of going past players at pace, a rare attribute in our current squad. What he desperately needs is a goal to boost his confidence and improved support play from our other players. Sure he isnt as quick as he used to be but I beleive in him and think with better, pacier players joining us he will improve.
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 9:30:58 GMT
And Mackie offers what?The odd throw in or corner where he does his famous boot it off the shins of the defender and hope for the bestHe's useless and I dont give a f8888 how brave he is or how long he stays on at training or that he broke his leg last year.
I dont think MH will be swayed by his heart or comittment over blatently obvious lack of talent.
You watch once all our new signings are sorted and our African 2 are back SWP will start .Mackie maybe on the bench just maybe.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 30, 2012 9:35:19 GMT
And Mackie offers what?The odd throw in or corner where he does his famous boot it off the shins of the defender and hope for the bestHe's useless and I dont give a f8888 how brave he is or how long he stays on at training or that he broke his leg last year. I dont think MH will be swayed by his heart or comittment over blatently obvious lack of talent. You watch once all our new signings are sorted and our African 2 are back SWP will start .Mackie maybe on the bench just maybe. Well for a start Mackie has played less games than SWP yet he's actually scored twice and got an assist or two. Mackie can actually finish, unlike SWP. |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 30, 2012 9:36:19 GMT
i've been very forgiving with swp all season, even to the extent that i would make up an excuse to myself why he played poorly.
but saturday made me realise after putting my head in my hands for the umpteenth time in 90 minutes of swp losing the ball, running nowhere, standing in a centre back position, tamely crossing to the first defender, shooting into the white city flats, ball bouncing off his first touch about 10 feet in front of him and going to a opponents midfielder, falling over his shoelaces and passing to no one in particular.
sorry swp, i've run out of excuses
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 9:41:57 GMT
Its very easy to follow the crowd once the scapegoat has been identified .But I havnt lost faith in SWP yet .He'll come good now he'll get a go on the right because the left is sorted.Mackies days are numbered and he'll be of back to the championship pretty soon I recon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 9:42:46 GMT
He seems to just be getting worse every game
Wonder what he will be like in a couple of months
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 30, 2012 9:44:33 GMT
The alternate perspective - I can't argue cos you've seen him in person; me just via TV - is that he's lost confidence and in a bad team...
We saw what he could do when he first joined....Stick with him (or next season at least), with confidence, better coaching and direction, you'll see him back at his best.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Jan 30, 2012 9:52:12 GMT
There was no one singing about swp sat. SWP will come good and he has had his moments. I want him playing on the right. He has far more potential then the headless chicken.
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Post by qprian on Jan 30, 2012 10:38:50 GMT
Agreed SWP on the right and then we can all see that once he skins his defender he will hit "Q" block with his attempted cross. Give him 10 goes at crossing and 1 may make its target, give Adel 3 crosses and he causes havoc.
Adel Taarabt £25,000 a week. SWP £60,000 !!! YOU DECIDE?
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Post by qprian on Jan 30, 2012 10:42:01 GMT
Oh, and whilst we are at it can we stop calling him a headless chicken as my next door neighbour but one is a farmer and its dis-respectful to headless chickens. Also I in OZ at home this week and watched the Chelscum game on internet and you get no idea of how bad he is watching from Austraaaaaalia. Get down to LR and you get the full picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 10:44:59 GMT
Oh, and whilst we are at it can we stop calling him a headless chicken as my next door neighbour but one is a farmer and its dis-respectful to headless chickens. Also I in OZ at home this week and watched the Chelscum game on internet and you get no idea of how bad he is watching from Austraaaaaalia. Get down to LR and you get the full picture.  |
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 10:45:06 GMT
It wont be a case of Adel OR SWP.They linked up well in the few games they played together and it will happen again I hope.
Funny you mention Adel in a thread about us calling for a player to be ditched.It wasnt very long ago where I and a few others were defending Adel against quite a few people on this board who were calling for us to get rid of him.
They even were saying he wasnt or never will be a Prem standard player.Like I said its easy to follow the crowd when a scapegoat has been identified.Back then it was adel now it seems it is SWP.
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 10:47:17 GMT
Agreed SWP on the right and then we can all see that once he skins his defender he will hit "Q" block with his attempted cross. Give him 10 goes at crossing and 1 may make its target, give Adel 3 crosses and he causes havoc. Adel Taarabt £25,000 a week. SWP £60,000 !!! YOU DECIDE? Could not agree more, come back Adel, straight back in to the team in the starting line up on the right side of midfield, absolute no brainer. Dont see any place or part to play even as a substitute for SWP if I am being honest, if we are winning 1-0 with 15 minutes to go, then the last person you are going to bring on is SWP, the Arsenal match shows you that, & if you are losing 1-0 with 15 minutes to go I dont think you would bring him on either. Not being able to pass, cross or shoot, really is a big disadvantage in the game of football. |
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 10:48:05 GMT
It wont be a case of Adel OR SWP.They linked up well in the few games they played together and it will happen again I hope. Funny you mention Adel in a thread about us calling for a player to be ditched.It wasnt very long ago where I and a few others were defending Adel against quite a few people on this board who were calling for us to get rid of him. They even were saying he wasnt or never will be a Prem standard player.Like I said its easy to follow the crowd when a scapegoat has been identified.Back then it was adel now it seems it is SWP. One can play football & one cant. |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 30, 2012 10:49:09 GMT
It wont be a case of Adel OR SWP.They linked up well in the few games they played together and it will happen again I hope. Funny you mention Adel in a thread about us calling for a player to be ditched.It wasnt very long ago where I and a few others were defending Adel against quite a few people on this board who were calling for us to get rid of him. They even were saying he wasnt or never will be a Prem standard player.Like I said its easy to follow the crowd when a scapegoat has been identified.Back then it was adel now it seems it is SWP. Yes and do you know why that is?? It's because neither players were performing. When we called for Adel's head he was shocking but then ha came back into the team and started playing like we knew he could. SWP on the other hand has been useless all season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 10:49:35 GMT
Agreed SWP on the right and then we can all see that once he skins his defender he will hit "Q" block with his attempted cross. Give him 10 goes at crossing and 1 may make its target, give Adel 3 crosses and he causes havoc. Adel Taarabt £25,000 a week. SWP £60,000 !!! YOU DECIDE? Could not agree more, come back Adel, straight back in to the team in the starting line up on the right side of midfield, absolute no brainer. Dont see any place or part to play even as a substitute for SWP if I am being honest, if we are winning 1-0 with 15 minutes to go, then the last person you are going to bring on is SWP, the Arsenal match shows you that, & if you are losing 1-0 with 15 minutes to go I dont think you would bring him on either. Not being able to pass, cross or shoot, really is a big disadvantage in the game of football. What's he like at heading then |
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 30, 2012 10:50:43 GMT
Oh, and whilst we are at it can we stop calling him a headless chicken as my next door neighbour but one is a farmer and its dis-respectful to headless chickens. Also I in OZ at home this week and watched the Chelscum game on internet and you get no idea of how bad he is watching from Austraaaaaalia. Get down to LR and you get the full picture. I watched it on Setanta .Not as good as being there live but a little better than tinternet.  Yeah I'd love to be able to jet over to the Bush for a game or too but you know 3 kids, mortgage an all that.If I was a golf pro things would be different  Still would miss the wife and kids tho.. |
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