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Post by klr on Jan 31, 2012 12:42:57 GMT
I'd like to have faith in poor little shaunie picking us his fifty grand a week, but I dont, I think he's awful & always have done. Christ, is he really on 50k a week? At least! It may well be even more than that
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Post by superckat on Jan 31, 2012 12:50:23 GMT
Well said Mark. When the question was asked earlier to name a worse winger than SWP. Scully's name took a nano second to pop into my head. I was going to write it but didnt as klr is having so much fun slagging off SWP. Didn't want to spoil it for him. Scully..........!!! Who can forget his goal in that season finale. I seem to remember you kissing me when that goal went in. Ha ha ha. Now I am trying hard to wipe that image out of my head.
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Post by superckat on Jan 31, 2012 12:57:25 GMT
Actually I think SWP will come good. With new team mates around him. He will start to burn up Premiership defences. The problem is that he was so much better than the forwards in the team he never really had an outlet. Bothroyd was never in the box. We can't survive relegation without him in the team.
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Post by bowranger on Jan 31, 2012 13:49:19 GMT
Christ, is he really on 50k a week? At least! It may well be even more than that Depressing. But I guess there must be worst offenders than that in terms of performance to wages stacking up. Let's hope he starts earning it soon and improves...I mean I know you can't really "earn" 50 grand a week by training and playing 90 mins of football but ya get me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 13:54:11 GMT
Adebayor is earning 180,000 a week so I hear and he is lazy
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Post by kilburnhoop on Jan 31, 2012 14:02:54 GMT
Heard it all now, Scully v SWP
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 10:40:24 GMT
Theo Walcott is a shockingly bad football player, but 17 year olds talk about him like he is World Class & could play for Barcelona or Real Madrid lol From Chris Waddle to Theo Walcott lol Educate yourselves..... Its that thread again.. ;D ;D ;D Yeah Walcott is a shockingly bad football player. I recon you aint forgiven him for having the audacity to let Sven drag him out to a Wolrld cup when he was 12 or something. deary deary me. Pace is a blessing not a curse..
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 11:03:32 GMT
Yep, Theo Walcott is an awful football player IMO, great sprinter yep, but he cant play football, what is the point ?
No football brain whatsoever, I dont even regard him any higher than SWP if I am being honest, completely the same issue & another failed product of a failed, laughable coaching "system"
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 11:05:10 GMT
Bet you think Usain Bolt will be a good signing for Manchester United when he retires ?!
No real difference in footballing ability between him & the likes of SWP & Theo Walcott, Bolt might even be a little bit better for all I know!
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 11:09:30 GMT
Yep, Theo Walcott is an awful football player IMO, great sprinter yep, but he cant play football, what is the point ? No football brain whatsoever, I dont even regard him any higher than SWP if I am being honest, completely the same issue & another failed product of a failed, laughable coaching "system" Did you watch the vids? I watched yours of the hunchback from Newcastle.Go on have a look .Educate yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 11:11:45 GMT
Just read elsewhere on this board that at the final whistle QPR fans were singing SWP is a useless W*****r !!! Although I agree he is a total waste of a space and a poor excuse of a footballer I really think that berating him in front of 16,000 + and his team mates wil probably not do wonders for his confidence. Like Mackie he is a trier however a trier of limited ability and I do lay into on this board but he is still being played on the left whilst Mackie runs in circles on the right. Its all a mess to be honest and I know that Taarabt and Traore will make a huge difference to the team. Anyway, can anyone confirm if they were singing it ? No but I think I know the geezer who started it images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/mar2009/1/3/ian-wright-pic-getty-628504421.jpg
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Post by cpr on Feb 1, 2012 11:15:43 GMT
Yep, Theo Walcott is an awful football player IMO, great sprinter yep, but he cant play football, what is the point ? No football brain whatsoever, I dont even regard him any higher than SWP if I am being honest, completely the same issue & another failed product of a failed, laughable coaching "system" OxCham is close to replacing him at Arse, Walcott will be on his way out soon. Got to agree, blistering pace but no thought process.
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 11:22:16 GMT
Yep, Theo Walcott is an awful football player IMO, great sprinter yep, but he cant play football, what is the point ? No football brain whatsoever, I dont even regard him any higher than SWP if I am being honest, completely the same issue & another failed product of a failed, laughable coaching "system" OxCham is close to replacing him at Arse, Walcott will be on his way out soon. Got to agree, blistering pace but no thought process. I think some ppl get his HOWLERS stuck in their minds and are loathe to forget or forgive.I remember his blinding goals and assists and (in the case of SWP) hope they regain their confidence and repeat them. Some of Theo's assists and goals were brilliant.Needs half a brain to have done them.
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 11:23:38 GMT
Yep, Theo Walcott is an awful football player IMO, great sprinter yep, but he cant play football, what is the point ? No football brain whatsoever, I dont even regard him any higher than SWP if I am being honest, completely the same issue & another failed product of a failed, laughable coaching "system" Did you watch the vids? I watched yours of the hunchback from Newcastle.Go on have a look .Educate yourself. "Educate Yourself" lol Do me a favour mate, over 50% of this players passe's / crosse's do not find their intended target, not an opinion, a fact. He is not a very good football player, he cannot play football to a high technical standard, if a football player cannot pass he cannot be a good football player, what part of that are you struggling to understand ?
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 11:25:06 GMT
Oh, I've just read your comment about Chris Waddle, you think Theo Walcott is a better football player than Chris Waddle ? dear oh dear lol.
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 11:28:08 GMT
Did you watch the vids? I watched yours of the hunchback from Newcastle.Go on have a look .Educate yourself. "Educate Yourself" lol Do me a favour mate, over 50% of this players passe's / crosse's do not find their intended target, not an opinion, a fact. He is not a very good football player, he cannot play football to a high technical standard, if a football player cannot pass he cannot be a good football player, what part of that are you struggling to understand ? Mate you have repeatedly said Mackie is a 'fine footballer' .That says it all mate.Clueless .or blinkered at the very least. Deary deary me
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 12:55:06 GMT
"Educate Yourself" lol Do me a favour mate, over 50% of this players passe's / crosse's do not find their intended target, not an opinion, a fact. He is not a very good football player, he cannot play football to a high technical standard, if a football player cannot pass he cannot be a good football player, what part of that are you struggling to understand ? Mate you have repeatedly said Mackie is a 'fine footballer' .That says it all mate.Clueless .or blinkered at the very least. Deary deary me Yes, it is blinkered & clueless to support a player that was pivotal in getting us in to this division in the first place, loves the club & is loved by the fans, deserves a little bit more respect for what he has done for this club & the impact he has had since coming to QPR. Its puerile & pointless to have a SWP vs Jamie Mackie debate neither are good enough to have a real impact as Premier League wingers, but one has done a lot for the club & one has done F*ck all, one is also on fifty grand a week, & I'll give you a clue, its not the one that has done a lot for the club.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 1, 2012 13:19:45 GMT
didnt mackie have about 12 goals playing the same amount of games swp has thus far for us? and hes scored more than swp this season as well. whos the better player? let the facts decide.
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 13:28:01 GMT
Its embarrassing for QPR fans to have a go at Jamie Mackie IMO, what short memories you must have.
I dont think either Mackie or Shaun Wright-Phillips are good enough to start for QPR now we have got better players to play with in wide midfield such as Taarabt & Traore & the new players that have come in, Mackie for the record is someone who I would bring on as an attacking option for the last 15-20 minutes, I think he's earnt that right.
I wouldnt bring on SWP on under any circumstances, what would be the point ?
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 13:37:00 GMT
didnt mackie have about 12 goals playing the same amount of games swp has thus far for us? and hes scored more than swp this season as well. whos the better player? let the facts decide. Did he ?What 12 goals really? Oh in the Championship? Yeah he can do a job in the Championship .Like Ive always said he's an average Championship player.He'll be playing back there pretty soon.SWP will still be in the Prem. No doubt MH is not enlightened like klr about the ways of the modern footballer and is hypnotised by just pace.Like SWP's old scum manager (who was it Mourinho?) and his old Citeh manager and the old England manager.Oh yeah and Wenger with Walcott. Clueless idiots the lot of them .
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 13:39:56 GMT
I wouldnt bring on SWP on under any circumstances, what would be the point ? Yeah I know you wouldnt .Mark Hughes will tho.
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 13:43:09 GMT
Cant you just admit he's not a very good football player ?
Even I'm getting bored with it all now lol
I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make, are you seriously trying to argue that I've got it all wrong & he is infact a good football player ?
What evidence is there to suggest this ? Is there any evidence at all ?
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 13:47:06 GMT
I'll make it easy for you mate SWP has got more talent in his little toe (I'll admit its on his RIGHT foot ) than Mackie will ever have in his whole body.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 13:48:20 GMT
Cant you just admit he's not a very good football player ? Even I'm getting bored with it all now lol I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make, are you seriously trying to argue that I've got it all wrong & he is infact a good football player ? What evidence is there to suggest this ? Is there any evidence at all ? Villa 1 QPR 2 R Keane SWP 2
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Post by klr on Feb 1, 2012 14:00:35 GMT
I'll make it easy for you mate SWP has got more talent in his little toe (I'll admit its on his RIGHT foot ) than Mackie will ever have in his whole body. Let's agree to disagree. Shaun Wright-Phillips doesnt have any "talent" he's one of the worst football players I've ever seen. & I dont even understand why you are comparing the two ? Shaun Wright-Phillips SHOULD be a better player than Jamie Mackie, he's on three times more money. I dont understand the whole ridiculous argument you are trying to make, you are trying to tell me that the likes of Shaun Wright-Phillips & Theo Walcott are good football players ? Well, no I disagree 100% so lets leave it at that, we are obviously never going to agree with each other, its a thoroughly pointless exchange. I will never be able to understand or accept how someone can regard someone as a good footballer when they cannot pass a football ?! Utterly ridiculous & pointless debate. That's all from me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 14:05:46 GMT
I just wondered if you would start with Mackie or SWP tonight
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 14:17:25 GMT
Ok I'll answer you and that will be my last word.Yes I do think SWP is a good footballer. In fact I' will go out on a limb and say along with Adel he is probably one of the most naturaly talented players we have.He's going through a nightmare at the moment due to lack of confidence or whatever. And comparing him with Mackie is relevant because under the last manager he was always played in the wrong position to accomodate Mackie.And Ive always questioned this and got replies from people like yourself that Mackie is a better player.I'm sorry I aint having that . Confidence is very important.I mean look at Torres.Its great that he cant buy a goal at the mo cos he plays for the scum.But he wasnt too bad at Libverpool eh.Class will tell in the end . SWP will be playing for us in the Prem for a little while yet and Mackie will be in the Championship where he belongs,. G.night ..
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 1, 2012 14:20:19 GMT
didnt mackie have about 12 goals playing the same amount of games swp has thus far for us? and hes scored more than swp this season as well. whos the better player? let the facts decide. Did he ?What 12 goals really? Oh in the Championship? Yeah he can do a job in the Championship .Like Ive always said he's an average Championship player.He'll be playing back there pretty soon.SWP will still be in the Prem. No doubt MH is not enlightened like klr about the ways of the modern footballer and is hypnotised by just pace.Like SWP's old scum manager (who was it Mourinho?) and his old Citeh manager and the old England manager.Oh yeah and Wenger with Walcott. Clueless idiots the lot of them . so you wouldnt want rhodes who scores goals in an even lower division? irrelevant. he scored loads for qpr is all i know and remember and the stats will show that in 50 years as well. but if you want to forget last season, lets go on this season then eh. mackies scored, he also hit the post and young scored from the bounce back. swp has taken a corner that we scored from, nothing else whatsoever. mackies been more valuable to our team than swp has this season. FACT!
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Post by ozhoop on Feb 1, 2012 14:32:53 GMT
Did he ?What 12 goals really? Oh in the Championship? Yeah he can do a job in the Championship .Like Ive always said he's an average Championship player.He'll be playing back there pretty soon.SWP will still be in the Prem. No doubt MH is not enlightened like klr about the ways of the modern footballer and is hypnotised by just pace.Like SWP's old scum manager (who was it Mourinho?) and his old Citeh manager and the old England manager.Oh yeah and Wenger with Walcott. Clueless idiots the lot of them . so you wouldnt want rhodes who scores goals in an even lower division? irrelevant. he scored loads for qpr is all i know and remember and the stats will show that in 50 years as well. but if you want to forget last season, lets go on this season then eh. mackies scored, hit the post and young scored. swp has taken a corner that we scored from, nothing else whatsoever. mackies been more valuable to our team than swp has by miles. FACT Can we finish a season before we start comparing stats that are gonna be shown in 50 years. SWP will come good this season and Mackie will errr be somewhere else next season because he is crap.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 1, 2012 14:35:02 GMT
ok. we wont tell you youre wrong so far, lets wait till the season end. im more than cool with that. but ill do that if you can stop saying mackies shite and swp is the most skillfull player at the club behind adel till the facts are proved at the end of the season as well yeah. cos up to know youre wrong mate.
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