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Post by qprthinker on Jan 30, 2012 13:32:56 GMT
but saturday made me realise after putting my head in my hands for the umpteenth time in 90 minutes of swp losing the ball, running nowhere, standing in a centre back position, tamely crossing to the first defender, shooting into the white city flats, ball bouncing off his first touch about 10 feet in front of him and going to a opponents midfielder, falling over his shoelaces and passing to no one in particular. The counter argument to this view is that SWP is pressing too hard. Here is a guy who has effectively been in the wilderness for the last two years (Not fancied by Mancini), when he arrives at a new club he tries too hard. It's an attempt to make up for lost time. Also, throw into the equation that he is low in confidence and the players around him have neither the skillset or pace that he thrives on, then that what transpired against Chelsea was inevitable. I just dont get fans who are unable to see SWP as a class footballer. He is the classiest thing at Loftus Road (other than Taarabt), drawing comparisons with inferior dross like Mackie beggars belief. |
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 13:38:32 GMT
How many years is he going to be low on confidence? I can understand a few weeks, but then he should snap out of it. Too many excuses being made for him.
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 30, 2012 13:40:41 GMT
one of the best players in the country, whos serioulsy low in confidence and just being played on the wrong wing by every single manager who plays him.
ha ha ha ha ha.
blokes shit.
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Post by birchambluerinse on Jan 30, 2012 13:41:24 GMT
Is Adel really on 25K..? and the likes of Barton are on 80K - i think the fans should have a grievance with Barton and not SWP.
So, i hope that they were'nt singing that towards him..
SWP needs a link-man or link-men, he runs around like he is caught up in spaghetti cause he has no link-up, hes not good at holding the ball. Hes instinct is to play forward to create chances on goal, take players on and (its not good for him on his own from the halfway line, which he is having to do) he does not play the ball backwards, the team seems to like playing the ball around the field, back to Kenny, with no urgency, ive seen us doing far too much when we should be pressing forward,
we are losing 1-0 for gowd sakes..
I actually rate SWP alot, he has the right work ethics, searching, forward, pressing = goal, but just like team, they are playing like Jigsaw pieces are on a table needing to be put together in the right places.
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Post by qprthinker on Jan 30, 2012 13:49:45 GMT
How many years is he going to be low on confidence? I can understand a few weeks, but then he should snap out of it. Too many excuses being made for him. All players experience confidence issues at some point in their careers. Some players are essentially 'confidence players' - without a feeling of confidence they fail to perform irrespective of their innate abilities. This is nothing new. Expecting SWP to suddently perform is not realistic... often you're only as good as the context in which you are allowed to play. Playing out of position, or playing with players with less ability can affect how you perform. SWP was great at Chelsea, he was also, at times, great at Man City. So, why should he suddenly be crap right now? It's not because he doesn't have ability but it's the context in which he is expected to play - poor supporting cast, low confidence, trying too hard to impress and making up for lost time - all are factors that should be considered before writing SWP off. Mackie, on the other hand, I can happily write off in a heart beat. I don't like him. He is devoid of genuine innate ability. He can run and he can run, and well, that's pretty much all he can do. |
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Post by birchambluerinse on Jan 30, 2012 13:57:14 GMT
SWP = class player.. and that final..  |
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 13:59:29 GMT
SWP = class player.. and that final.. 10 years ago he was class for 1 season, since then he`s been low on confidence.  |
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Post by cpr on Jan 30, 2012 15:16:01 GMT
The one's who didn't swear when he lost the ball were the one's who swore when he received the ball Bloke behind me moaning for 90 minutes, "SWP cant play on the left, he is right footed, he has to cut inside all the time, hes not left footed, he cant play there, etc etc etc. Give me strength SHUT-UP. Were you in X block? |
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 15:34:28 GMT
Bloke behind me moaning for 90 minutes, "SWP cant play on the left, he is right footed, he has to cut inside all the time, hes not left footed, he cant play there, etc etc etc. Give me strength SHUT-UP. Were you in X block? No, South Africa Road, but I think you could hear moaning all over the ground. |
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 30, 2012 15:39:01 GMT
thats why the bloke has no confidence.
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 15:42:55 GMT
You know a player's bad when the opposition fans start cheering him.
The Chelsea fans were doing that on saturday & the Newcastle lot were doing the same a couple of weeks ago.
People seem to talk about him like he is 21 & just coming through, he is 30 years old, I dont understand people describing him as "class" I'm not trying to start a big argument, but how can you describe Shaun Wright-Phillips as a class footballer ?
How can a footballer ever be described as "class" when he cant even pass a football properly, his passe's fail to find his teammates NOTICABLY more often than on the few occassions when he somehow flukes a pass to a teammate, he is an awful football player, one of the worst I've ever seen, how on earth did he "make it" in the first place ? dear oh dear.
If Shaun Wright-Phillips 36 England caps doesnt sum up everything that is wrong with how young football players are coached in England, then I dont know what does.
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Post by cpr on Jan 30, 2012 15:42:57 GMT
Don't look like he lacks confidence to me.
Look like someone who is lost on the left hand side of the pitch.
Go past him, take him, go past dont cut..........
.....inside yet again...... yawn! lost the ball, shock result.
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 15:44:06 GMT
80% of his passe's do not find a teammate, he is AWFUL
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 15:50:04 GMT
thats why the bloke has no confidence. Good players dont lack confidence. |
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Post by Jon Doeman on Jan 30, 2012 15:50:18 GMT
It was a line from the Mail article( ie made up) and we didn't really need another slag off SWP thread. Massive disappointment though he is.
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 30, 2012 15:50:33 GMT
Don't look like he lacks confidence to me. Look like someone who is lost on the left hand side of the pitch. . why do you think so many fans can see this but respected managers cant?  |
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Post by cpr on Jan 30, 2012 15:52:57 GMT
Don't look like he lacks confidence to me. Look like someone who is lost on the left hand side of the pitch. . why do you think so many fans can see this but respected managers cant? Weird isn't it?  His first two games for us were his best two games for us and he was on the right, where he should be, I thought this guy's going to be a bloody revalation and make me eat my words, sadly, that's not been the case and it's not all down to him, obviously. |
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 30, 2012 15:53:40 GMT
well both warnock and hughes think hes a left winger.
so strange.
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 15:54:22 GMT
What does it matter what wing he is on when he cant cross ?
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 30, 2012 15:57:08 GMT
you ever tried doing something with your wrong foot or hand? (wanking aside?)
do some keepy ups with your weak foot only, or write a letter with your weak hand.
if hes right footed when he gets down the wing and tries to kick it with his wrong foot no wonder its going everywhere but its intended target.
very few players are ambidextrous with their feet ha ha, and the ones that are, are well sought after.
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 15:58:28 GMT
What does it matter what wing he is on when he cant cross ? I will introduce you to the bloke who sat behind me moaning about him. He knew it all. |
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 16:01:03 GMT
you ever tried doing something with your wrong foot or hand? (wanking aside?) do some keepy ups with your weak foot only, or write a letter with your weak hand. if hes right footed when he gets down the wing and tries to kick it with his wrong foot no wonder its going everywhere but its intended target. very few players are ambidextrous with their feet ha ha, and the ones that are, are well sought after. Mikehunt, were you the one sitting behind me? I`m sure that geezer sounded like you. |
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 16:01:19 GMT
you ever tried doing something with your wrong foot or hand? (wanking aside?) do some keepy ups with your weak foot only, or write a letter with your weak hand. if hes right footed when he gets down the wing and tries to kick it with his wrong foot no wonder its going everywhere but its intended target. very few players are ambidextrous with their feet ha ha, and the ones that are, are well sought after. Adam Johnson doesnt do too badly does he ? |
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Post by cpr on Jan 30, 2012 16:02:52 GMT
What does it matter what wing he is on when he cant cross ? At least on the right he knows he can go past a player and attempt a cross. On the left he never does, he always cuts inside, so easy to mark and stop as it's soooooooo predictable. |
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Post by Jon Doeman on Jan 30, 2012 16:03:10 GMT
you ever tried doing something with your wrong foot or hand? (wanking aside?) . ;D  ;D |
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Post by andygg on Jan 30, 2012 16:04:07 GMT
What does it matter what wing he is on when he cant cross ? At least on the right he knows he can go past a player and attempt a cross. On the left he never does, he always cuts inside, so easy to mark and stop as it's soooooooo predictable. Stop it, I cant listen to anymore.  |
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Post by cpr on Jan 30, 2012 16:04:47 GMT
you ever tried doing something with your wrong foot or hand? (wanking aside?) do some keepy ups with your weak foot only, or write a letter with your weak hand. if hes right footed when he gets down the wing and tries to kick it with his wrong foot no wonder its going everywhere but its intended target. very few players are ambidextrous with their feet ha ha, and the ones that are, are well sought after. Adam Johnson doesnt do too badly does he ? Funny that, player played out of position at citeh gets fewer and fewer starts. Has a familiar ring to it. Johnson is far more effective on the left. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 16:07:36 GMT
It was a line from the Mail article( ie made up) and we didn't really need another slag off SWP thread. Massive disappointment though he is. Your joking Slagging of SWP is always a very popular thread I was thinking of starting another one for Bothroyd ;D |
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Post by klr on Jan 30, 2012 16:41:41 GMT
What does it matter what wing he is on when he cant cross ? At least on the right he knows he can go past a player and attempt a cross. On the left he never does, he always cuts inside, so easy to mark and stop as it's soooooooo predictable. Point about Adam Johnson is that he is a Left Footed winger playing on the right wing, he can pass, shoot, cross & score, all from the "wrong" wing, how come poor old Shaunie cant manage it ? They dont have debates as narrow as this in Holland or Germany for example, countries that dont have youth coaching "systems" out of the Mickey Mouse manuals, There are 13 / 14 year old kids at the Bayern Munich / Ajax / PSV academy's that already have ten times the technical / passing ability of a Shaun Wright-Phillips |
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 30, 2012 16:49:08 GMT
how much was adam johnson to citeh and how much was swp to us?
is johnson one of those ambidextrous players i was on about that are sought after and cost absolute fortunes?
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His first two games for us were his best two games for us and he was on the right, where he should be, I thought this guy's going to be a bloody revalation and make me eat my words, sadly, that's not been the case and it's not all down to him, obviously.