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Post by robindubois on Aug 12, 2023 13:01:00 GMT
Seny not looking too secure or confident for Boro at Coventry. Picked up where he left off with us it seems.
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Post by stylecouncillor on Aug 12, 2023 13:29:01 GMT
Liverpool agree to pay 111million to Brighton for a 21 year old midfielder from Ecuador. All I can say is *** ***** **** censored. At least it takes the shine off Levy getting 86million for Kane going to Bayern. If we have a 21 year old we have to send him out on loan for 3 seasons to gain experience - and then decide he is no good. - Eze being the exception. Now if this guy is worth 111 million what price Eze - Palace should cash in on him now and let us have the windfall sell on fee to ease (no pun intended) our problems. and now Chelsea are reported to be putting in an increased offer of 115million - Double *** ***** ****. You could buy QPR and a plot of land and build a new stadium for that. Sick. And of course this is apparently all within financial fair play guidelines. How is that? When Abamovich sold Chelsea they were millions in debt. The same for Liverpool even further back. Yet us still the only mugs paying a fine from years ago. The gap between the 2 divisions will never be closed. It's FFP that's really sickening. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 12, 2023 14:56:17 GMT
and now Chelsea are reported to be putting in an increased offer of 115million - Double *** ***** ****. You could buy QPR and a plot of land and build a new stadium for that. Sick. And of course this is apparently all within financial fair play guidelines. How is that? When Abamovich sold Chelsea they were millions in debt. The same for Liverpool even further back. Yet us still the only mugs paying a fine from years ago. The gap between the 2 divisions will never be closed. It's FFP that's really sickening. Unfortunately it is ok as they have sold and offloaded so many players during the summer they can afford to pay that and still be making a profit. All we are seeing now is the snowballing of fess especially with the Saudi money coming in. If your club is the that small group of elites the fees will just keep spiralling up while clubs in the Championship only have a hope if they can sell at an old fashioned fee of 25 million or so. Coventry and Bristol City for example sold a couple of good players and they now have the cash to keep going for a season or two and add some decent 5million type players as well. The fine is not hurting our FFP as it is not included for the calculation and we could not spend that money on players even if we were not paying the fine still. |
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Post by nomar on Aug 12, 2023 17:16:15 GMT
And of course this is apparently all within financial fair play guidelines. How is that? When Abamovich sold Chelsea they were millions in debt. The same for Liverpool even further back. Yet us still the only mugs paying a fine from years ago. The gap between the 2 divisions will never be closed. It's FFP that's really sickening. Unfortunately it is ok as they have sold and offloaded so many players during the summer they can afford to pay that and still be making a profit. All we are seeing now is the snowballing of fess especially with the Saudi money coming in. If your club is the that small group of elites the fees will just keep spiralling up while clubs in the Championship only have a hope if they can sell at an old fashioned fee of 25 million or so. Coventry and Bristol City for example sold a couple of good players and they now have the cash to keep going for a season or two and add some decent 5million type players as well. The fine is not hurting our FFP as it is not included for the calculation and we could not spend that money on players even if we were not paying the fine still. And add to this the fact that we deliberately took the pee and so we were rightly and deservedly punished for what we did. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 13, 2023 8:20:26 GMT
Unfortunately it is ok as they have sold and offloaded so many players during the summer they can afford to pay that and still be making a profit. All we are seeing now is the snowballing of fess especially with the Saudi money coming in. If your club is the that small group of elites the fees will just keep spiralling up while clubs in the Championship only have a hope if they can sell at an old fashioned fee of 25 million or so. Coventry and Bristol City for example sold a couple of good players and they now have the cash to keep going for a season or two and add some decent 5million type players as well. The fine is not hurting our FFP as it is not included for the calculation and we could not spend that money on players even if we were not paying the fine still. And add to this the fact that we deliberately took the pee and so we were rightly and deservedly punished for what we did. Last comment on his but the thing that really annoys me is that our fine and presumably all other FFP fines are supposedly being paid away to charity. Charity is fine but when we have clubs being forced out of business or into administration or driven down the leagues by FFP why are we taking money out of the game at the lower levels while the rich boys in the PL are racking in cash. Sometimes charity begins at home. Our fine should have been distributed in total across the the other 71 EFL league clubs by the EFL at the time it was imposed and then we pay the EFL in annual instalments. The EFL can afford a small loan for a couple of years. I still have not found anything to say where the EFL have paid that money - if they have. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 15, 2023 7:55:11 GMT
www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-boss-ainsworth-lines-up-loan-dealsWLS update - no doubt supplied by the club. 2 Loans - a striker and a right back - seems the striker we want is Jay Stansfield of Fulham - a decent shout! No approaches for any of our core players (Willock to Middlesbrough wishful thinking perhaps). Makes me smile that WLS have run with the line that we are expecting firm offer for Chair though in the next two weeks. I read this as preparing the supporters for his inevitable exit and telling clubs to come and get him. Even with the two loan arrivals, we will be very light - especially in central midfield. Dozzell is a busted flush and Colback will surely not play every game. Add in Field's suspensions (if he stays) and we are down to the bones. Our squad is pretty unbalanced now. Several aging players who will presumably suffer late on in the season. Countless number 10s of variable / unknown quality. Only Dykes & Sinclair up top - neither are prolific. Only Smyth and Armstrong with any pace. It is tempting to blame Ainsworth for a poor summer recruitment, but the reality is that we are in such a FFP corner, that we needed to sell before we could buy. As is always the case, the injuries we picked up pre-season were both at central defence, and the priority became central defenders. That in itself was 'sods law' because we had already lost Dickie and Balogun. So, out of necessity, it has been somewhat knee jerk campaign. 17 days to go, we could yet sell Chair, Field and Willock. Ship out three or 4 youngsters - and get the Eze windfall money as he moves to Tottenham (keep praying!). Or, more like, arranging panic loans on the evening of the first of September! It should all be sorted by the time the Prem / European Leagues kick off if there was any sense.
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Post by robindubois on Aug 15, 2023 9:08:29 GMT
www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-boss-ainsworth-lines-up-loan-dealsWLS update - no doubt supplied by the club. 2 Loans - a striker and a right back - seems the striker we want is Jay Stansfield of Fulham - a decent shout! No approaches for any of our core players (Willock to Middlesbrough wishful thinking perhaps). Makes me smile that WLS have run with the line that we are expecting firm offer for Chair though in the next two weeks. I read this as preparing the supporters for his inevitable exit and telling clubs to come and get him. Even with the two loan arrivals, we will be very light - especially in central midfield. Dozzell is a busted flush and Colback will surely not play every game. Add in Field's suspensions (if he stays) and we are down to the bones. Our squad is pretty unbalanced now. Several aging players who will presumably suffer late on in the season. Countless number 10s of variable / unknown quality. Only Dykes & Sinclair up top - neither are prolific. Only Smyth and Armstrong with any pace. It is tempting to blame Ainsworth for a poor summer recruitment, but the reality is that we are in such a FFP corner, that we needed to sell before we could buy. As is always the case, the injuries we picked up pre-season were both at central defence, and the priority became central defenders. That in itself was 'sods law' because we had already lost Dickie and Balogun. So, out of necessity, it has been somewhat knee jerk campaign. 17 days to go, we could yet sell Chair, Field and Willock. Ship out three or 4 youngsters - and get the Eze windfall money as he moves to Tottenham (keep praying!). Or, more like, arranging panic loans on the evening of the first of September! It should all be sorted by the time the Prem / European Leagues kick off if there was any sense. I am tending to take a slightly more optimistic view in the knowledge that we are trying to survive with a smaller squad. I would like to see 3 loans - the two positions mentioned and another defensive midfielder. The trouble with the defensive midfielder is that unless Field goes the loan will likely be a third choice behind Colback and Field and have limited game time. If Chair goes I think it will only be to another Championship team unless he wants to be a better paid bench warmer with a lower PL team in relegation trouble. Field same thing although Mr Bean has defensive problems north of the border and is already under fan pressure at the start of the season. Balogan made the first game before being dropped! What a pity. So Bean may go for Field and we should hold out for a big fee. Willock is a mystery - who in their right mind will sign him at the moment - no game time this year and either using the sick note routine to try to force a sale or maybe he really has an injury issue. If we did sell him now it would be for peanuts whereas we should be able to hold out for a decent fee for Chair or Field. Hopefully no-one will be going and the fact that expectations are being managed to only expect loan signings implies we will not be getting any cash from anywhere. If we do get loans in expect a few fringe players to be loaned out to help balance the wage bill. Of course I join in the Eze to Spurs campaign but if it happens likely to be on deadline day so we will only be able to use the cash in January or on free agents. Which brings me to the point that if we do get a 2 or 3 loans that should see us through to the next window and then review where we are and what may happen with incomings and outgoings in January. The older players we have just signed will not be going anywhere so we will have a settled core anyway and lots of decent players elsewhere will be entering the last 6 months of their contracts and able to speak to other clubs. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 15, 2023 10:03:20 GMT
www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-boss-ainsworth-lines-up-loan-dealsI am tending to take a slightly more optimistic view in the knowledge that we are trying to survive with a smaller squad. I would like to see 3 loans - the two positions mentioned and another defensive midfielder. The trouble with the defensive midfielder is that unless Field goes the loan will likely be a third choice behind Colback and Field and have limited game time. Willock is a mystery - who in their right mind will sign him at the moment - no game time this year and either using the sick note routine to try to force a sale or maybe he really has an injury issue. If we did sell him now it would be for peanuts whereas we should be able to hold out for a decent fee for Chair or Field. I think Willock is not really a mystery. He was unbelievable in Beale's glory days. Scored some great goals, good link up with Chair. Our best player at that time. Then a series of injuries that cannot be easy - and has knocked his confidence - he is not the potent force he was. He needs to play back into form. But how can any manage select him when he never tackles, never runs back, never helps the unit of the team. If you then have Richards playing in the same team doing the same, you are playing with 9 men when the opposition have the ball. The outcome is that you concede five at Oxford. I would guess that Willock has been told of his short comings, but he is far too worried about getting injured and losing out on his move to greater things.In short, in our current state, he is a luxury that we cannot afford. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 15, 2023 10:53:15 GMT
Willock is a mystery - who in their right mind will sign him at the moment - no game time this year and either using the sick note routine to try to force a sale or maybe he really has an injury issue. If we did sell him now it would be for peanuts whereas we should be able to hold out for a decent fee for Chair or Field. I think Willock is not really a mystery. He was unbelievable in Beale's glory days. Scored some great goals, good link up with Chair. Our best player at that time. Then a series of injuries that cannot be easy - and has knocked his confidence - he is not the potent force he was. He needs to play back into form. But how can any manage select him when he never tackles, never runs back, never helps the unit of the team. If you then have Richards playing in the same team doing the same, you are playing with 9 men when the opposition have the ball. The outcome is that you concede five at Oxford. I would guess that Willock has been told of his short comings, but he is far too worried about getting injured and losing out on his move to greater things.In short, in our current state, he is a luxury that we cannot afford. That makes sense and could well be the answer to my mystery but I probably mis-worded my comment. The mystery to me is not so much the player but the way the situation is being handled. Just before the season kicked off Ainsworth was raving about Chair and Willock being "un-coachable" as they have so much talent and do things others cannot do. I would say that having "un-coachable" players is in itself a problem or maybe it was just Ainsworth's polite way of saying he cannot get them to do what he wants - which certainly would match your summary above of Willocks attitude. Having seen those remarks from Ainsworth, the next I read was on the eve of the Watford game with Willock saying he was fully fit and charged up ready to start the season and take on Watford. Instead he sat on the bench until the 97th minute and why we introduced him then is another mystery to me. Next he was rumoured to be back for Cardiff only to learn at the last minute that he picked up a late knock and was not fit. EDIT - was that true or was he told he was on the bench again and refused to do it? This is all a bit confusing to me. If Willock is the luxury we cannot afford why are we getting these mixed messages and why does the club not just simply say he has been dropped and circulate that he is available for transfer or loan for a reasonable bid and cut our loses. If he has been dropped say so instead of all this "last minute injury" nonsense. If memory serves me right we took the option to extend his contract for the extra year which to me means either he did figure in our plans (but maybe no longer) or that we extended in the hope of getting some cash for him during this window. His stated intention a year ago was to get to the PL and play at the same level as his brother but he is definitely going the wrong way about it and has possibly ruined any chance of it happening. If we are not going to play him get rid of him and use the cash on someone who wants to play. Deep down I would love to see him play and have the impact he had under Beale but I think things have got too far for that to happen. Meanwhile Eze apparently had a brilliant game at the weekend and is now Palaces great hope after Zaha and they do not want to lose him. |
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Post by salts on Aug 15, 2023 12:59:48 GMT
...why does the club not just simply say he has been dropped and circulate that he is available for transfer or loan for a reasonable bid and cut our loses...probably because he has not been dropped.
...If he has been dropped say so instead of all this "last minute injury" nonsense...it's probably not nonsense, bearing in mind his injury issues last season.
...If we are not going to play him get rid of him and use the cash on someone who wants to play...who is going to buy him at the moment at a price we are happy enough with?
...maybe it was just Ainsworth's polite way of saying he cannot get them to do what he wants...I doubt that. It probably refers to some of the inventive ways they link up together/with others in training, which are not easily found in any coaching manuals. A nod to their creativity.
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Post by robindubois on Aug 15, 2023 16:19:51 GMT
..If we are not going to play him get rid of him and use the cash on someone who wants to play...who is going to buy him at the moment at a price we are happy enough with?
Bristol City have 25 million burning a hole in their pocket after a recent sale and are supposed to be very keen - sure they can come up with 5million for Willock
...If he has been dropped say so instead of all this "last minute injury" nonsense...it's probably not nonsense, bearing in mind his injury issues last season.
If he has not been dropped why did he not play at Watford having the day before declared himself 100% fit and raring to get playing again at Watford.
.....Deep down I would love to see him play and have the impact he had under Beale
you ignored that bit among others in your selective editing but that's ok.
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Post by salts on Aug 15, 2023 17:29:01 GMT
...If he has not been dropped why did he not play at Watford having the day before declared himself 100% fit and raring to get playing again at Watford...because he got injured in training on Friday? Or warming-up? Anyway, if he is injured we can't play him until he is fit!
you ignored that bit among others in your selective editing but that's ok....I only commented on the parts of the post that I felt needed commenting on.
Do you really believe anyone would offer anything near £5m for him after his injuries and lack of form these last 12 months?
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Post by robindubois on Aug 15, 2023 20:57:58 GMT
...If he has not been dropped why did he not play at Watford having the day before declared himself 100% fit and raring to get playing again at Watford...because he got injured in training on Friday? Or warming-up? Anyway, if he is injured we can't play him until he is fit! you ignored that bit among others in your selective editing but that's ok....I only commented on the parts of the post that I felt needed commenting on. Do you really believe anyone would offer anything near £5m for him after his injuries and lack of form these last 12 months? 1 He was injured before Cardiff not before Watford where he was a sub who either was fit and should have played if not dropped or should not have been on the bench if not fit but Hey Ho What’s a game or two between friends. Why would anyone pay 5 million - because in my book he is worth at least that. [br 2 Take my whole post in totality to understand the discussion May the bird of paradise continue to visit your nest |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 16, 2023 8:27:50 GMT
Football has gone mad . After Sky money killing the game we now have Saudi Arabia buying up every top name they can get. Now Neymar has joined Al-Hilal on a 2 year contract and his reported salary is ): 150 million euro a year which is 411,000 euro a day 365 days a year or 17,125 euro an hour every hour he is alive or 285 euro every minute or 4.75 euro per second I wish someone would pay me 4.75 euro every time I take a breath , awake or asleep.  Meanwhile we cannot afford to buy a player priced at less than one days salary for Neymar and I bet FIFA cannot impose any FFP on the Saudi league. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 16, 2023 8:58:04 GMT
I think the Chris Willock situation is clearer, but by no means certain. He and his agent wanted out this Summer and his wage demands to even consider staying were huge. The club could not even consider. He was touted as a free summer player by his agent, so wanted a big signing on fee and very high wages N.B. his wages are not currently excessive at QPR - £10k per week. When we extended his contract with the option we held, it was purely to extract a transfer fee - and so the interest in him fell away. His Transfer value on the TransferMarket websites has fallen form £6 -7m at his peak, to approx £2.5m now - and I know it is all rubbish. We have now been told that QPR has not had any approaches for Willock - so he is not leaving. Meanwhile interest in him hits the news coverage and social media from various clubs, presumably talking to Willock's agent (his father I believe). But wages we are told, remain a problem - he still wants what he could have got as a free agent it seems. Bristol City are interested (as I suspect others would be) but have said that Willock's wages could be a problem. So, we have an impasse. unless QPR drop their demand for a transfer fee, or Willock accepts lesser wages and signing-on, then he is going nowhere. So does he still want to play for QPR? Does he want to tackle back and risk injury? Does the club want to pay him for a year to suffer minor knocks and not be available? If this is the correct situation, would you select him if you were the manager? He could be earning so much more if we had let him go and getting on with his career- but then why should the club miss out? But it will be interesting to see how this plays out over the last two weeks of the window. I wonder if Ainsworth will select him tonight and cup tie him? footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclusive-bristol-city-eyeing-up-second-qpr-transfer-raid/footballleagueworld.co.uk/weekly-wages-qprs-top-10-highest-earners/#chris-willock---pound-10-000-a-week |
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Post by salts on Aug 16, 2023 13:15:23 GMT
...1 He was injured before Cardiff not before Watford where he was a sub who either was fit and should have played if not dropped or should not have been on the bench if not fit...I know he was fit to play Watford. Why should he have played? Neither of us knows why he didn't start. It might have been tactical (we weren't at the training sessions). He may have had a slight knock that he could have played limited minutes with if the situation demanded it (quite often happens to players), but at 0-4 maybe GA didn't want to risk aggravating it and therefore kept him off for almost the entire game? He was on the bench because he was fit enough to play some part in the game - you said so yourself!
...Why would anyone pay 5 million - because in my book he is worth at least that...when he is playing as he did a year or so ago, yes. But no one is likely to offer that much in his current situation.
...2 Take my whole post in totality to understand the discussion...I did and of course I understand it. I just feel that a lot of your points are a bit off the mark and lack some understanding of the way things work.
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Post by robindubois on Aug 16, 2023 14:55:17 GMT
...1 He was injured before Cardiff not before Watford where he was a sub who either was fit and should have played if not dropped or should not have been on the bench if not fit...I know he was fit to play Watford. Why should he have played? Neither of us knows why he didn't start. It might have been tactical (we weren't at the training sessions). He may have had a slight knock that he could have played limited minutes with if the situation demanded it (quite often happens to players), but at 0-4 maybe GA didn't want to risk aggravating it and therefore kept him off for almost the entire game? He was on the bench because he was fit enough to play some part in the game - you said so yourself! ...Why would anyone pay 5 million - because in my book he is worth at least that...when he is playing as he did a year or so ago, yes. But no one is likely to offer that much in his current situation. ...2 Take my whole post in totality to understand the discussion...I did and of course I understand it. I just feel that a lot of your points are a bit off the mark and lack some understanding of the way things work. Fair enough. I think we will have to agree to disagree and I do understand how things work. We can discuss forever but the bottom line is neither of us know the true situation behind the scenes so it is all speculation not helped by conflicting statements and comments from the club and WLS among others. That is why in my first post I started each point with the word IF. Still enough said onwards and upwards. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 16, 2023 21:18:20 GMT
How about a swap deal - Willock to Bristol in exchange for Wells 😜
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 17, 2023 10:46:23 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Aug 17, 2023 13:00:10 GMT
In other words Ainsworth (rightly) wants to keep his best players but if someone comes in with a bid the club may tell him we have to sell and he understands that. Good effort to try to talk up any bids but other clubs know our situation and the likes of B. City and Leicester have the money after selling at over the top prices. So if someone does come in with a bid we should play hard ball for a while - they know we need the cash, we know they have the cash. Who blinks first or who has the greater need - probably us as we need the cash and only have a couple of saleable assets - those mentioned have a choice of other players and can go elsewhere. Re Kelman - same sort of thing "he features in our plans for the future" being a lesser form of "I want to keep our best players". If we are relying on Kelman to come through I get a sinking feeling again. I have a bad feeling our squad will look different in 2 weeks times and for the worse - but being the eternal optimist maybe we will pick up some cheap gems or even keep our better players. So many mixed messages and lack of clarity from the club or the WLS mouthpiece is frustrating. and now the clickbait is warming up. |
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Post by blatantfowl on Aug 17, 2023 17:20:43 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Aug 18, 2023 7:48:03 GMT
I suppose the first clue if nothing is said today will be if Chair plays on Saturday. Meanwhile this did get me thinking about what Chair's value really is. Obviously it will be higher to us than to some other clubs but then other clubs rebuilding may match our valuation. A few months ago I would have said a 5 to 6 million valuation would be about right. But since then the transfer market seems to have gone out of control with free agents being a prime target for many but then immediately any fees have been much higher than previously. When I see Bristol City getting 25 million for a young midfielder who I had hardly heard of, and Coventry picking up 20 million plus add ons for Godden, a fee of 10million plus for Chair sounds like a bit of a give away. With Leicester rebuilding, having sold a few, I imagine Chair could be very much of interest to them and I expect that in a team of better quality players than we have Chair can step up his game to be key to a promotion bid. I wonder what would happen if we get 10 million for him. Would that all go to balance the books? Or if the club said Ainsworth can spend 10 million on a new player or two what can we actually get at that price. It seems any decent proven championship player is going to be attracting at least 10 million so a longterm signing to improve the squad may be difficult even with that money. More likely in my book is that we may spend a couple of million on one or two PL player loan fess and bank the rest of the cash. Of course this is all speculation/clickbait and the noise around Chair will increase until the window closes or until he goes. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 18, 2023 9:35:08 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Aug 18, 2023 11:08:45 GMT
More ITK rumours from The72.
Apparently we are interested in taking Jay Stansfield (striker) from Fulham on a season loan but face competition from Millwall although location staying in West London could give us the edge. Plus Andy Moran (central midfield) from Brighton but again face competition from other Championship teams. Click Click Click
Both are positions we need to strengthen and both players are "highly rated" but young and little experience but probably the level we can afford. I expect to see a few more potential loan names linked in the coming weeks especially if we have outgoings.
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Post by blatantfowl on Aug 19, 2023 17:08:08 GMT
Mitrovic leaving Fulham for Saudi. Not sure if that means they need to retain Stansfield ?
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Post by hitmanrangers on Aug 19, 2023 18:06:50 GMT
We wouldn’t get anywhere near £10m for Chair. A good player on his day but far too inconsistent. Lived in the shadow of Eze initially but when Eze moved on that was his chance to really step up. Just not happened yet for him and not really improved so probably needs a change of scenery to restart his career and kick on. Best we can hope for is 5m plus adds if sold again by new club.
Of that we would probably not spend too much since we need c£5m to stay within FFP rules.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 19, 2023 18:09:09 GMT
Mitrovic leaving Fulham for Saudi. Not sure if that means they need to retain Stansfield ? Pretty sure Stansfield will leave this week. It is apparently between us and Sunderland. He was not on the bench for Fulham. Mitrovic is being sold for £50m. The Saudis are the new SKy - inflating prices yet again. |
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Post by Marc on Aug 19, 2023 18:12:27 GMT
Mitrovic leaving Fulham for Saudi. Not sure if that means they need to retain Stansfield ? Pretty sure Stansfield will leave this week. It is apparently between us and Sunderland. He was not on the bench for Fulham. Mitrovic is being sold for £50m. The Saudis are the new SKy - inflating prices yet again. £50m? That makes Mitrovic the pack of chewing gum the Saudis picked up when they got to the checkout! |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 21, 2023 7:47:59 GMT
We wouldn’t get anywhere near £10m for Chair. A good player on his day but far too inconsistent. Lived in the shadow of Eze initially but when Eze moved on that was his chance to really step up. Just not happened yet for him and not really improved so probably needs a change of scenery to restart his career and kick on. Best we can hope for is 5m plus adds if sold again by new club. Of that we would probably not spend too much since we need c£5m to stay within FFP rules. The point I was making is that Chair (or any other player's) value is not only determined by the players performances /ability but by the behaviour of the transfer market. We saw fees drop during Covid but over this summer fuelled by Sky and Saudi money and international moves we are seeing big increases for players of mediocre or unproven ability with Championship midfielders moving for fees over 20 million and strikers almost impossible to find. Plus of course the increased wages players are now demanding. Chair may not have progressed as much as some had hoped, although I would not agree that he has not improved since Eze left. Part of the maybe slow progress is down to not having the quality players around him and managerial changes. As you say a change of scenery may restart his career and he may kick on to a higher level so a buyer should pay for what they will be getting and the potential with an improved player rather than paying for what happened last season. it does not mean that Chair's "value" is unchanged from what it was 2 or 3 years ago. The 2 indicators are firstly what fees are equivalent level Championship players of his age commanding now - much more than 5 million. Secondly if we sell him for 5 million and can use the 5 million to buy a replacement what can we get for that 5 million - almost certainly a lesser talent and probably costing more with agent fees and wages. Sitting back and saying we will just take 5 million for Chair for FFP is the passive approach that we have followed too often in recent years allowing players to go free, paying them to go or selling cheap in fire sales and not putting players on long term contracts allowing them to run down their time. It is time to put our foot down and break this cycle, time to say and hold out that if someone wants to buy one of our better players they will have to pay the going rate. If not, and we continue to sell for any amount that will just cover the seasons FFP, we will just continue in the never ending downhill spiral of a declining squad. |
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Post by robindubois on Aug 22, 2023 8:12:39 GMT
JCS started his latest comeback and played 45 minutes yesterday - champagne out!
Interesting we also gave a trial to a 19 year old left back - hardly the position we need cover for at the moment but hopefully just "one for the future" for the development squad - but we still have to pay his wages if signed.
Click bait (I hope) on The72 yesterday that we have joined the "chase" to sign an ex Wycombe striker whose name I cannot spell. He has just been released from his club in Turkey where he played 17 games without scoring and in the last 3 seasons has scored a total of 9 goals. Hardly a solution to our goal scoring shortage but his description sounds like an older version of Armstrong and impresses Ainsworth, for whom he played at Wycombe, due to his running and effort. Save the money and either get a goal scorer or see what Armstrong and Kolli can do if we cannot find anyone better.
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