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Post by harr on Jul 17, 2023 11:05:25 GMT
Maybe the guy from Villa coming back again , hope so. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 17, 2023 11:59:27 GMT
Iroebunam (Villa) or Leonard (Brighton)?
Transfer Market values Iroebunam at £5m and Leonard at £300k.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 18, 2023 6:30:29 GMT
Does Lewis play on the wing?
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Post by robindubois on Jul 18, 2023 8:12:20 GMT
Does Lewis play on the wing? Attacking midfielder but does have a reputation for flying past defenders  |
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Post by harr on Jul 18, 2023 8:22:42 GMT
On a Wing and a Prayer, hope we can make the play offs.
That would be a feather in the cap.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jul 19, 2023 7:27:56 GMT
Just remember, we don't do cups, we prefer to spend our time fighting against relegation, no interest in making any revenue, making fans happy, achieving something positive. Possibly finding some decent form. Nope, we wheel out a substandard team and don't give a Rat's.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 19, 2023 7:36:29 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Jul 19, 2023 7:46:01 GMT
In the alternative universe I sometimes live in I have come to some unfounded conclusions why talk of Wing has gone quiet in the last couple of days
Just for debate I would say we are reaching our budget limit on wages especially if we have to pay a small fee and loan fee and can only afford to bring in 3, maximum 4, more players and then maybe let some development squad go on loan. So it comes down to priority.
Our midfield squad as named on the Offie is Chair, Willock, Field, Dozell, Richards, Dixon-Bonner and Adomah. In theory we should have enough forward playing midfielders and the priority is to get a defensive player to play along side Field. Is Wing the man for that? - no. If we have a PL loan lined up, either Tim I or the Brighton man Wing would miss out and one of our available budget places is taken.
In defence we need a CB - probably we thought we had Bologan but were let down so likely we will turn to the man from Wycombe if we have the cash to pay a fee That's the second budget place gone.
Next we need a right back and will look to find a utility defender who can play RB or CB - names floating around but all down to money and that would be our third budget place.
So if we offload our young keeper for example, plus a couple of others not yet ready for the first team after seeing the pre-season we could add one more player. Where is the next priority? a goal scoring striker. While Wing is an attacking midfielder who can score a few goals he is not a striker. Richards is said to be the natural replacement for Chair or Willock would Wing be a regular. At present we have Dykes Armstrong and Smyth and I wonder what we are going to do with Kelman. If we do not get another striker we have to keep him, if we get another striker I can imagine Kelman going on loan again at least until January.
So that is my alternative universe which could now be shattered by announcing Wing today - or maybe he has flown away to feather his nest with one of his other admirers. However if the above is anywhere near true it is the first big test of the Hoos/Ainsworth relationship with Hoos having to say "that's your lot unless we sell first".
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 19, 2023 9:14:45 GMT
In the alternative universe I sometimes live in I have come to some unfounded conclusions why talk of Wing has gone quiet in the last couple of days Just for debate I would say we are reaching our budget limit on wages especially if we have to pay a small fee and loan fee and can only afford to bring in 3, maximum 4, more players and then maybe let some development squad go on loan. So it comes down to priority. Our midfield squad as named on the Offie is Chair, Willock, Field, Dozell, Richards, Dixon-Bonner and Adomah. In theory we should have enough forward playing midfielders and the priority is to get a defensive player to play along side Field. Is Wing the man for that? - no. If we have a PL loan lined up, either Tim I or the Brighton man Wing would miss out and one of our available budget places is taken. In defence we need a CB - probably we thought we had Bologan but were let down so likely we will turn to the man from Wycombe if we have the cash to pay a fee That's the second budget place gone. Next we need a right back and will look to find a utility defender who can play RB or CB - names floating around but all down to money and that would be our third budget place. So if we offload our young keeper for example, plus a couple of others not yet ready for the first team after seeing the pre-season we could add one more player. Where is the next priority? a goal scoring striker. While Wing is an attacking midfielder who can score a few goals he is not a striker. Richards is said to be the natural replacement for Chair or Willock would Wing be a regular. At present we have Dykes Armstrong and Smyth and I wonder what we are going to do with Kelman. If we do not get another striker we have to keep him, if we get another striker I can imagine Kelman going on loan again at least until January. So that is my alternative universe which could now be shattered by announcing Wing today - or maybe he has flown away to feather his nest with one of his other admirers. However if the above is anywhere near true it is the first big test of the Hoos/Ainsworth relationship with Hoos having to say "that's your lot unless we sell first". Yes all that makes sense and could be correct. But Wing is not going to wait until late August to see if we sell Chair. The problem is that if we lose Willock and Chair late in the window, we will have unproven Richards and Dixon-Bonner. Although we will presumably have money to spend then. I do think though something has gone wrong with the Wing signing. WLS were reporting that it was all but completed, but now it is a completely different tone. My guess is a late move by the agent for more once there was interest / better deal elsewhere. We are being asked to match it and our answer is no, for the reasons you state. But a central defender, then a RB utility man, then a central midfielder, a striker all ahead of another number 10 right now. Of course in Wing's case, we would not even have to pay a 'poultry' fee. |
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Post by robindubois on Jul 19, 2023 11:03:13 GMT
Wycombe signed a CB from Bristol City yesterday on a free so maybe they are preparing for Forino to depart - if we can agree terms. A player plus cash swap might be our best chance if we have any players Wycombe would be interested in - maybe Kelman?
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Post by powerpump on Jul 19, 2023 13:45:42 GMT
Are Wikipedia jumping the gun? "Lewis Wing (born 23 June 1995) is an English professional footballer who plays for Queens Park Rangers, as an attacking midfielder." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Wing |
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Post by robindubois on Jul 19, 2023 13:55:20 GMT
Are Wikipedia jumping the gun? "Lewis Wing (born 23 June 1995) is an English professional footballer who plays for Queens Park Rangers, as an attacking midfielder." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_WingI think so - normally they would include "he joined QPR in..." under his player profile. How Wiki would know before anyone else would be a new one. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 19, 2023 15:38:48 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Jul 21, 2023 8:20:16 GMT
The silence is boring. Anyone else out there. Come Home ET. Can I buy the Wycombe CB for 350k and loan him to the club for 3 years for a loan fee of 140k per season and they pay his wages?. I think the FA banned that after the Carlos Tevez affair. To think some PL players are being paid 350k a week. Some of them buy a car or three at the same price for cash and now the Saudi League are outbidding the PL clubs with no problem. Maybe they can buy Sky next. Where will it all end.  |
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Post by harr on Jul 21, 2023 8:28:19 GMT
We won’t have much of a team for Watford
One of the slowest windows for a while.
Hopefully the Wycombe defender will at least be announced today or tomorrow but WLS saying we are not really interested in Wing all of a sudden.
Looking like he might even fly to Reading
Interest from Reading and Derby for Martin
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Post by robindubois on Jul 21, 2023 8:52:18 GMT
We won’t have much of a team for Watford One of the slowest windows for a while. Hopefully the Wycombe defender will at least be announced today or tomorrow but WLS saying we are not really interested in Wing all of a sudden. Looking like he might even fly to Reading Interest from Reading and Derby for Martin Interesting that our supposed targets and even a couple of our released players are more likely to join Reading in League One. Willing to play in a lower league and probably on higher wages. Only problem with joining Reading is they will never know when or if they will get paid their monthly salary. Had a look at the Wycombe website yesterday - showed a video of Wing's last game for Wycombe against Portsmouth where he scored from the halfway line after spotting the Pompey keeper off his line. Not that means anything but I think we have dropped him from our targets as we need a CB more than another no 10. Seems Wycombe have just signed a whole new team on frees and are happy if they can pick up small fees for players like their CB to help finances - although they do not need to sell. Seems we may be heading for about the same model. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 21, 2023 11:48:22 GMT
It would be so tragically typical of our fan base that, if Wing signs for Reading, the same social media jokers who vociferously moaned about him not being good enough for us will express their righteous indignation that we haven't bought him!
Yep, that's what I'm looking forward to .....
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 21, 2023 11:54:18 GMT
Last hour of the window and signings go through in the following hour!
Last day of the window and signings go through in an hour.
Last week of the window and signings go through in a day.
Before that a signing can takes weeks to conclude.
It suggests that business is pretty laid back until panic sets in.
Teams need players in as early as possible so that they can settle into a side before the season starts, but that rarely happens.
Interesting that the only hold up to Wing signing for Reading is apparently the length of his contract.
This would normally mean that the player wants longer than the club is offering, but as it seems Wing is having to settle for the third tier, i suspect he wants shorter, whereas Reading probably want to be able to sell him in the future.
Can't help thinking that we could do with Wing if Chair departs late in the window. I guess we will go for a late loan if that happens.
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Post by robindubois on Jul 22, 2023 7:49:52 GMT
Last hour of the window and signings go through in the following hour! Last day of the window and signings go through in an hour. Last week of the window and signings go through in a day. Before that a signing can takes weeks to conclude. It suggests that business is pretty laid back until panic sets in. Teams need players in as early as possible so that they can settle into a side before the season starts, but that rarely happens. Interesting that the only hold up to Wing signing for Reading is apparently the length of his contract. This would normally mean that the player wants longer than the club is offering, but as it seems Wing is having to settle for the third tier, i suspect he wants shorter, whereas Reading probably want to be able to sell him in the future. Can't help thinking that we could do with Wing if Chair departs late in the window. I guess we will go for a late loan if that happens. Interesting take on things. I am not so sure that things are laid back once pre-season training starts. Prior to that players and clubs are on vacation but once they are back at work I think there is more of a case of players or rather agents and clubs jockeying to get the best deals for which ever side they represent. The panic - if there is any, only sets in on the last couple of days when clubs have not been able to fill a slot or if they lose a key player at the last moment. As for Wing he has signed at Reading for 3 years. I cannot understand why he would be pushing for a shorter contract. If he felt that he might want to get away quicker he could have held on to see if other higher level clubs came in for him now but probably knows he is a league one player and got himself a job. In current circumstances I would have wanted a longer term contract for job (wage) security with maybe a low buy out clause. Personally I think we made the right decision not to go for him. Probably the Ainsworth link was the only reason his name even cropped up. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 23, 2023 9:10:02 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 23, 2023 10:03:43 GMT
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Post by robindubois on Jul 23, 2023 11:38:05 GMT
Arsenal "listening to offers for Alebiosu" - as soon as the "offers' word appears I expect he will not be going to us unless we can get him on a loan with agreement to. Pity but sounds the type we need and could even end up with a sell on profit. Maybe if we do not buy Forino and get Fox on a free we can afford to bid for Alebiosu who probably has a better pedigree than the other 2. Fox or Forina - interesting choices or maybe take both. Fox a free agent experienced in the Championship older and no sell on likely but would be decent (not outstanding) cover Forina - fee quoted at 350k plus add ons - can we afford it. Not proven at Championship level but one of Ainsworth's boys and young enough to get a sell on fee later. Feels like that deal is dragging on too long which does not fill me with confidence it will happen. All of course assuming the ITK rumours are founded. I just hope we are not holding back waiting to see if we get some money in for Chair or Willock before we make a couple of signings. Yesterdays staring 11 was not that weak on paper but no depth on the bench and should have been able to see off the Wombles in the first half. A couple of injuries and we are struggling and definitely need better than Dozzel Kakay and someone fitter than Clarke-Slater. Not long to Watford but a longer time to the window closing and it is the gap in between when I think things will happen, hopefully in our favour but fear that not might be the case. Time will tell. |
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Post by robindubois on Jul 24, 2023 11:44:38 GMT
Sick Sick Sick
Al Hilal (Saudi) have made a world-record £259m bid to sign Kylian Mbappe from Paris Saint-Germain.
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Post by surreychad on Jul 24, 2023 12:39:09 GMT
Sick Sick Sick Al Hilal (Saudi) have made a world-record £259m bid to sign Kylian Mbappe from Paris Saint-Germain. Wrong, so so wrong. I am probably being cynical here, but I wonder if there is a link between PSG and Al Hilal, PSG are facing FPP issues so a huge payment might get them out of it? |
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Post by blatantfowl on Jul 25, 2023 12:35:11 GMT
Dominic Gape is playing for us as a trialist in the Reading friendly
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Post by harr on Jul 25, 2023 12:38:22 GMT
At this rate the squad will be well equipped in that League 1
Surely some of our own youth would be as good as players getting released from League One Clubs…..
I think we will end up on paper with one of the weakest squads in the Championship or for sure the bottom five.
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Post by blatantfowl on Jul 25, 2023 13:38:18 GMT
At this rate the squad will be well equipped in that League 1 Surely some of our own youth would be as good as players getting released from League One Clubs….. I think we will end up on paper with one of the weakest squads in the Championship or for sure the bottom five. Trent Rendall from is also playing at CB |
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Post by surreychad on Jul 25, 2023 14:33:43 GMT
At this rate the squad will be well equipped in that League 1 Surely some of our own youth would be as good as players getting released from League One Clubs….. I think we will end up on paper with one of the weakest squads in the Championship or for sure the bottom five. Well we beat a league 1 team today so at least we'll be competitive. |
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Post by robindubois on Jul 25, 2023 14:38:42 GMT
At this rate the squad will be well equipped in that League 1 Surely some of our own youth would be as good as players getting released from League One Clubs….. I think we will end up on paper with one of the weakest squads in the Championship or for sure the bottom five. Trent Rendall from is also playing at CB Well he has been with us for a few years in 4th under 17's, 21's but has spent a lot of the time out on loan. |
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Post by robindubois on Jul 25, 2023 14:42:21 GMT
Dominic Gape is playing for us as a trialist in the Reading friendly Reserve midfielder released by Wycombe - Ainsworth did not see fit to select him for Wycombe for most of last season so why our manager thinks he can do a job for us is mind boggling. Clutching at straws if we cannot get Forino ? |
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