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Post by sharky on Jul 19, 2018 12:32:10 GMT
....and another angle from hereisthecity www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/19/can-massimo-luongo-convince-trent-sainsbury-his-future-lies-at-q/Massimo Luongo could convince Trent Sainsbury his future lies at QPRBen Horlock 4 hours ago Trent Sainsbury was dropped to Jiangsu Suning's reserve team on Friday and a move away China looks more likely. Could his future be at QPR ? Trent Sainsbury and Massimo Luongo celebrate winning the 2015 Asian Cup match between Oman and Australia at ANZ Stadium on January 13, 2015 in Sydney, Australia. Despite Massimo Luongo's lack of game time at the World Cup in Russia, the Queens Park Rangers midfielder can go a long way to convincing fellow countryman Trent Sainsbury his immediate future lies in west London. The Australian duo endured mixed emotions during the Socceroos group stage exit, with Luongo failing to get on the pitch - and Sainsbury considered to be the standout performer in defence. According to the Sun on Sunday (24/6, pg 60) Championship rivals Aston Villa were reported to be interested in a move for Sainsbury but nothing has since materialised. Luongo and Sainsbury made their international debuts four years ago and the pair are considered to be friends off the pitch. With QPR still seeking new defensive recruits, Sainsbury could fit the bill for Steve McClaren's side. Sainsbury, 26, is valued at £1million (TransferMarkt), and his contract expires in December - so even on QPR's strict budget, a deal would be possible. QPR have already lost three defenders this window, with Toni Leistner the only new addition to date and it's likely the pair would fill the centre-half roles if Sainsbury did rock up at Loftus Road.
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Post by sharky on Jul 19, 2018 12:43:25 GMT
With Furlong now out for around 3 months the Trent Sainsbury speculation may just have some legs.
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Post by egranger on Jul 19, 2018 12:49:58 GMT
But we lose two players when international duty calls?
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Post by sharky on Jul 19, 2018 12:59:54 GMT
But we lose two players when international duty calls? At least two. There is also Wszolek, Washington, Sylla and......
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jul 19, 2018 16:11:46 GMT
Various 'reports' (gossip) read on Twitter today...
1 - that Sainsbury has been seen in London
2 - he's training with our reserves
3 - a transfer from his parent club is 'imminent' (to an unnamed club)
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Post by harr on Jul 19, 2018 18:44:12 GMT
Or maybe not...... nothing is ever straight forward for QPR transfers.
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Post by bowranger on Jul 20, 2018 8:58:58 GMT
But we lose two players when international duty calls? At least two. There is also Wszolek, Washington, Sylla and...... Manning too potentially, if he continues his progress out of the Irish U21's now he's senior age. Smyth for Norn Iron too.
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Post by harr on Jul 20, 2018 9:14:01 GMT
The Trent Salisbury fee demanded apparently was said to be around 1 Million Dollars, doesn’t seem that bad to me for an International defender. Although he could go free in Jan, that doesn’t help us then and if he is free will get even more clubs interested in January. Hopefully we will pay it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 11:00:13 GMT
The Trent Salisbury fee demanded apparently was said to be around 1 Million Dollars, doesn’t seem that bad to me for an International defender. Although he could go free in Jan, that doesn’t help us then and if he is free will get even more clubs interested in January. Hopefully we will pay it. We could always get him signed up on a pre-contract agreement so he becomes our player for free on the day the January window opens. Then of course if his Chinese club do not want him around for the next 5 months he can always train with us in the interim. Question then is he good enough that we are prepared to wait until January for him which leads to the question that if he is that good should we pay some cash for him to get him now. All depends on what fee the Chinese are really asking for and how much we are still restricted by FFP etc.
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Post by sharky on Jul 20, 2018 11:26:29 GMT
Latest on the Sainsbury possible transfer from WLS. Looks like this story may have some legs. www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-looking-to-complete-deal-to-sign-australia-defenderQPR looking to complete deal to sign SainsburyBy West London Sport 20/07/2018 QPR are looking to tie up a deal to bring in Australia centre-back Trent Sainsbury. The R’s are hoping to sign Sainsbury, 26, from Chinese club Jiangsu Suning, possibly on an initial loan deal. Sainsbury, whose contract expires in January, is keen to stay in Europe, having ended last season on loan at Swiss club Grasshoppers. He was previously on loan at Inter Milan. A friend and international team-mate of QPR midfielder Massimo Luongo, Sainsbury featured in the recent World Cup. Rangers boss Steve McClaren has been keen to bring in two central defenders this summer in light of the departures of out-of-contract duo Nedum Onuoha and Jack Robinson. The club have already signed German defender Toni Leistner and are now hoping to agree a deal for Sainsbury to join him at Loftus Road.
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Post by harr on Jul 20, 2018 12:03:48 GMT
The Trent Salisbury fee demanded apparently was said to be around 1 Million Dollars, doesn’t seem that bad to me for an International defender. Although he could go free in Jan, that doesn’t help us then and if he is free will get even more clubs interested in January. Hopefully we will pay it. We could always get him signed up on a pre-contract agreement so he becomes our player for free on the day the January window opens. Then of course if his Chinese club do not want him around for the next 5 months he can always train with us in the interim. Question then is he good enough that we are prepared to wait until January for him which leads to the question that if he is that good should we pay some cash for him to get him now. All depends on what fee the Chinese are really asking for and how much we are still restricted by FFP etc. Sounds good, or loan maybe now to Jan , then buy free....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 13:54:23 GMT
We could always get him signed up on a pre-contract agreement so he becomes our player for free on the day the January window opens. Then of course if his Chinese club do not want him around for the next 5 months he can always train with us in the interim. Question then is he good enough that we are prepared to wait until January for him which leads to the question that if he is that good should we pay some cash for him to get him now. All depends on what fee the Chinese are really asking for and how much we are still restricted by FFP etc. Sounds good, or loan maybe now to Jan , then buy free.... Good idea but the Chinese may want a loan fee - but at least we are on the same wavelength Harr ( I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. )
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Post by harr on Jul 20, 2018 16:16:54 GMT
Sounds good, or loan maybe now to Jan , then buy free.... Good idea but the Chinese may want a loan fee - but at least we are on the same wavelength Harr ( I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. ) Welcome back 57. No stats is good ....
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Post by harr on Jul 20, 2018 16:17:35 GMT
3.5 Million, more like 350K for us these days
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jul 20, 2018 16:56:20 GMT
...I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. ) 57 - now 75...?? Has supporting QPR prematurely aged you, or is it all the fault of Brexit?
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Post by harr on Jul 20, 2018 18:47:24 GMT
...I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. ) 57 - now 75...?? Has supporting QPR prematurely aged you, or is it all the fault of Brexit? Heinz have added 18 New flavours
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 5:17:19 GMT
...I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. ) 57 - now 75...?? Has supporting QPR prematurely aged you, or is it all the fault of Brexit? A mixture of both probably but I am totally relaxed about Brexit now as the uncertainty forced me to change nationality - so Mrs May can do or not do what she wants but my way of life is safe.
Unfortuntely, in truth, my age is past the midpoint between those two numbers. The 57 came from the year of watching my first , first team game at Loftus Road. Next 75 years as an age, then 75 years as supporter are a couple nice targets to aim for. As I have often posted - time will tell.
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Post by bowranger on Jul 21, 2018 22:34:56 GMT
Sounds good, or loan maybe now to Jan , then buy free.... Good idea but the Chinese may want a loan fee - but at least we are on the same wavelength Harr ( I used to be 57 until some recent technical problem (I blame the Russians) so I had to delete a few accounts for safety reasons. But I'm back as 75 to haunt you if you quote any Managerial Stats before Christmas. ) My uninformed guesswork would be that Jiangsu Suning know people want Sainsbury and he likely wants to stay in Europe after his loan spell and therefore won't be up for a contract extension and so they're obliged to try and talk tough and milk money out of the deal if they're destined to lose him for free in a few months time anyway. Bottom line is that if he won't sign a deal and wants to go, it works out for everyone. On paper it should be a relatively straightforward deal..! On paper... Glad you're back 57...75...
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Post by nomar on Jul 21, 2018 22:38:31 GMT
Sainsbury and Leistner would be a scary good CB partnership in the Championship.
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Post by harr on Jul 21, 2018 23:42:39 GMT
I’m hoping Sainsbury deal and a loan for Hugill goes through this week. Should give us enough in defence if Furlong is back in October and Grant Hall is fit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 7:25:03 GMT
I’m hoping Sainsbury deal and a loan for Hugill goes through this week. Should give us enough in defence if Furlong is back in October and Grant Hall is fit. Gut feeling only tells me Sainsbury is 85% certain and we should be prepared to pay a little to get him now - especially if we get Nectar points.
Hugill would be good but no more than 50% chance imo. Clubs with more cash would lure him away and I read conflicting stories about whether he wants to stay in London or go back North which would make Leeds more likely.
Agree on the comment re the defence - just that I would feel more comfortable if we could be sure we can replace the 'if's" with "when".
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Post by bowranger on Jul 22, 2018 10:17:14 GMT
I’m hoping Sainsbury deal and a loan for Hugill goes through this week. Should give us enough in defence if Furlong is back in October and Grant Hall is fit. Gut feeling only tells me Sainsbury is 85% certain and we should be prepared to pay a little to get him now - especially if we get Nectar points.
Hugill would be good but no more than 50% chance imo. Clubs with more cash would lure him away and I read conflicting stories about whether he wants to stay in London or go back North which would make Leeds more likely.
Agree on the comment re the defence - just that I would feel more comfortable if we could be sure we can replace the 'if's" with "when".
I agree that if it's Sainsbury we want then it's better to pay (as long as it's fair and within budget). We are in a stronger position than Jiangsu Suning here, assuming we're the only club at our level in for him. They get nothing and a player who doesn't want to be there sticking around until January if they don't sell now. Obviously don't know the ins and outs but Hugill just looks too expensive for me. London is a draw for people but I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't trot off to somewhere like Leeds if it means an extra 10k a week. I agree with Harr about the defence. The fundamental thing is having to suck up the short term negatives for the long term positives. People elsewhere have spoken about wanting full back cover in. Bottom line is that Furlong is supposed to 'only' be out for the three months. Meanwhile, we've got a young player with some first team experience in Kakay who can play in that role for now. People were rightly worried about relying on a young Furlong last season, now he's injured we can't imagine life without him, which is a positive if anything. You get cover in at RB rather than muddling through and you have someone contracted in, on a wage, who at best competes with Furlong (which could hamper his development) or at worst blocks progression for Kakay. Remember when we had Chevanton and Onyewu on the bench doing nowt as injury cover?!
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Post by sharky on Jul 22, 2018 12:13:38 GMT
In the past few days it's gone very quiet on the Sainsbury front. I'm taking that to be a good sign
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jul 22, 2018 19:09:28 GMT
In the past few days it's gone very quiet on the Sainsbury front. I'm taking that to be a good sign The latest Sainsbury tagline is 'live well for less' - seems to fit in with our FFP-restricted transfer policy of getting in talent on a budget...
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Post by harr on Jul 22, 2018 19:54:47 GMT
Alan Nixon reporting that QPR and Leeds have to wait for Hugills decision of where we will go to. Hopefully we will know this week if he is. It coming so we can go to our next target
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 9:27:28 GMT
Alan Nixon reporting that QPR and Leeds have to wait for Hugills decision of where we will go to. Hopefully we will know this week if he is. It coming so we can go to our next target If true it does not sound like he is champing at the bit to join us - probably his agent playing one against the other for a bigger fee for himself. I would think it would be in the players interest to get things sorted and get training with his new team asap but then I am old fashioned.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jul 23, 2018 9:57:46 GMT
Alan Nixon reporting that QPR and Leeds have to wait for Hugills decision of where we will go to. Hopefully we will know this week if he is. It coming so we can go to our next target If true it does not sound like he is champing at the bit to join us - probably his agent playing one against the other for a bigger fee for himself. I would think it would be in the players interest to get things sorted and get training with his new team asap but then I am old fashioned. Agreed. If he's still undecided, then he's probably not the sort we want anyway.
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Post by sharky on Jul 23, 2018 10:37:40 GMT
From Football League World footballleagueworld.co.uk/middlesbrough-west-brom-and-qpr-battle-to-sign-28-year-old-striker/MIDDLESBROUGH, WEST BROM AND QPR BATTLE TO SIGN 28-YEAR-OLD STRIKERPublished 8 mins ago on 23/07/2018 By Jay Williams Maccabi Tel Aviv striker Vidar Orn Kjartansson is attracting attention from a trio of Championship clubs, according to The Yorkshire Post. Middlesbrough, Queens Park Rangers and West Bromwich Albion are all in the hunt to sign Kjartansson this summer. Maccabi Tel Aviv rate the 28-year-old at £3.5m. QPR are looking for a new striker with their current options of Conor Washington, Matt Smith and Idrissa Sylla all failing to set the world alight last season. The Hoops’ hunt for a new striker has thus far seen them linked with Derby County’s Chris Martin and West Ham United outcast Jordan Hugill. Middlesbrough are also searching for a new striker with Britt Assombalonga potentially leaving following a training ground row with Tony Pulis. Meanwhile, West Brom are preparing for the possibility that Salomon Rondon and Jay Rodriguez could leave. Kjartansson has scored 42 goals in two seasons with Israeli side Maccabi Tel Aviv and could now head to England. The Iceland international has also played in Iceland, Norway, China and Sweden during his career. The VerdictAt both Malmo and Maccabi Tel Aviv, Kjartansson has scored an impressive amount of goals. Whether he could replicate that in England remains to be seen and he would be a risk. At £3.5m, he is not worth a punt for cash-strapped QPR but could be worth a gamble for the Baggies or Boro.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jul 23, 2018 12:43:08 GMT
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Post by harr on Jul 23, 2018 12:47:34 GMT
Alan Nixon reporting that QPR and Leeds have to wait for Hugills decision of where we will go to. Hopefully we will know this week if he is. It coming so we can go to our next target If true it does not sound like he is champing at the bit to join us - probably his agent playing one against the other for a bigger fee for himself. I would think it would be in the players interest to get things sorted and get training with his new team asap but then I am old fashioned. Well if we wants to stay in London we are the ones suited, if he wants to go back nearer to home (Middlesbrough) I guess Leeds appeals.
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