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Post by FloridaR on May 17, 2012 13:15:46 GMT
54 minutes.....
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Post by kempton ranger on May 17, 2012 13:20:32 GMT
True it only took Tevez 6 minutes to get a reaction such was Bartons determination not to lose. I think Tevez also spat in Joey face I remember seeing Joey approach the Ref wiping his cheek and suggesting something then shortly after he got his dismissal. Tevez is a dirty rat just like the other Rat at Liverpool. |
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Post by Hogan on May 17, 2012 13:24:22 GMT
Ok, its also a fact that we were 0 - 0 against Stoke for 89 mins until Cisse scored. The term i think is conjecture mate. The fact is, Barton was disgraceful with his behaviour, especially AFTER the red card was issued in a game of vast importance played out in front the biggest worldwide audience our team have ever played. And? Read my OP. End. |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 17, 2012 13:40:12 GMT
True it only took Tevez 6 minutes to get a reaction such was Bartons determination not to lose. I think Tevez also spat in Joey face I remember seeing Joey approach the Ref wiping his cheek and suggesting something then shortly after he got his dismissal. Tevez is a dirty rat just like the other Rat at Liverpool. If Barton was determined not to lose he wouldn't have struck out at Tevez in the first place, no matter how much winding up he did. |
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Post by whitebear57 on May 17, 2012 14:19:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 14:40:43 GMT
No comparison with Barton attacking other players and a footballer doing a high kick into the crowd which just missed some female spectators that were watching the game
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Post by whitebear57 on May 17, 2012 14:47:12 GMT
what i said wasnt about the deed but the length of ban ... its one of the longest i know of
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Post by superckat on May 17, 2012 15:37:29 GMT
Didn't Paul Davis of Arsenal get quite a lengthy ban for breaking, I think it was Glen Cockerill's(Southampton) jaw. When he punched him in the face.
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Post by klr on May 17, 2012 16:01:49 GMT
Its a shame that Southampton team isnt still around, Barton would have been a choirboy in that team, they were a right bunch of nutters, Terry Hurlock, the full monty.
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Post by klr on May 17, 2012 16:05:14 GMT
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 17, 2012 16:26:53 GMT
www.london24.com/sport/qpr/qpr_skipper_could_be_sacked_for_gross_misconduct_1_1381168QPR skipper could be sacked for gross misconduct Ian Cooper, QPR correspondent Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:09 PM Barton may face consequences for ‘assault outside of the game,’ according to leading sports lawyer QPR may be in a position to terminate captain Joey Barton’s contract on the grounds of gross misconduct for his actions following his sending-off against Manchester City last weekend, a leading sports law specialist has confirmed. Barton has accepted one charge of violent conduct against Sergio Aguero, who he kicked after being dismissed for an elbow on Carlos Tevez, but denies a second for a confrontation with Vincent Kompany. The 29-year-old is facing a ban from the Football Association which could run into double figures from the start of next season. QPR announced earlier this week that they will conduct an internal investigation into Barton’s dismissal and his subsequent conduct in Sunday’s final game of the Premier League season. Jamie Singer, of Onside Law, told London24 that the midfielder’s action against Aguero, which fell outside of the referee’s jurisdiction, could be classed as gross misconduct. “The fact that there was an elbow to the throat [on Tevez], and then an un-provoked attack afterwards, two incidents, that might lead the club to see it as gross misconduct,” said Singer. “Depending on the terms of his contract there tends to be a two-tier approach. If something is “normal” misconduct then the disciplinary process may lead to a fine or suspension. “However, if the behaviour is so serious as to be deemed gross misconduct then you may be able to terminate just based on that one event. It depends on what is in his contract. “Regarding the incident with Sergio Aguero, I think that there is a distinction that you can draw. “Inevitably in football there are fouls and sendings-off but it would be very rare for a field of play incident to be so serious as to constitute gross misconduct. “But after he was sent off his behaviour is no longer a “field of play” issue and he can no longer claim it was heat of the moment or part of the game. Outside of the game, he’s assaulted Aguero, un-provoked. So that is where I think the club could have an argument to terminate his contract for gross misconduct, if they wanted to.” Singer said the incident was comparable with Manchester United striker Eric Cantona’s ‘kung-fu kick’ on a Crystal Palace fan at Selhurst Park in January 1995, for which Cantona was given an eight-month ban but was allowed to remain at the club. As with Cantona, the assault was aggravated by the fact that it took place after the player had been sent off.
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Post by Macmoish on May 17, 2012 16:44:32 GMT
Bring in Nico...!
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Post by cpr on May 17, 2012 17:16:13 GMT
Don't agree with that article, it was on the field stuff not off it.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 17, 2012 17:32:37 GMT
Well I would tend to believe what the sports law bloke said. Once you are sent off you are no longer considered on the field of play.
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 17, 2012 17:48:14 GMT
www.london24.com/sport/qpr/qpr_skipper_could_be_sacked_for_gross_misconduct_1_1381168QPR skipper could be sacked for gross misconduct Ian Cooper, QPR correspondent Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:09 PM Barton may face consequences for ‘assault outside of the game,’ according to leading sports lawyer QPR may be in a position to terminate captain Joey Barton’s contract on the grounds of gross misconduct for his actions following his sending-off against Manchester City last weekend, a leading sports law specialist has confirmed. Barton has accepted one charge of violent conduct against Sergio Aguero, who he kicked after being dismissed for an elbow on Carlos Tevez, but denies a second for a confrontation with Vincent Kompany. The 29-year-old is facing a ban from the Football Association which could run into double figures from the start of next season. QPR announced earlier this week that they will conduct an internal investigation into Barton’s dismissal and his subsequent conduct in Sunday’s final game of the Premier League season. Jamie Singer, of Onside Law, told London24 that the midfielder’s action against Aguero, which fell outside of the referee’s jurisdiction, could be classed as gross misconduct. “The fact that there was an elbow to the throat [on Tevez], and then an un-provoked attack afterwards, two incidents, that might lead the club to see it as gross misconduct,” said Singer. “Depending on the terms of his contract there tends to be a two-tier approach. If something is “normal” misconduct then the disciplinary process may lead to a fine or suspension. “However, if the behaviour is so serious as to be deemed gross misconduct then you may be able to terminate just based on that one event. It depends on what is in his contract. “Regarding the incident with Sergio Aguero, I think that there is a distinction that you can draw. “Inevitably in football there are fouls and sendings-off but it would be very rare for a field of play incident to be so serious as to constitute gross misconduct. “But after he was sent off his behaviour is no longer a “field of play” issue and he can no longer claim it was heat of the moment or part of the game. Outside of the game, he’s assaulted Aguero, un-provoked. So that is where I think the club could have an argument to terminate his contract for gross misconduct, if they wanted to.” Singer said the incident was comparable with Manchester United striker Eric Cantona’s ‘kung-fu kick’ on a Crystal Palace fan at Selhurst Park in January 1995, for which Cantona was given an eight-month ban but was allowed to remain at the club. As with Cantona, the assault was aggravated by the fact that it took place after the player had been sent off. What a load of old bollocks. |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 17, 2012 18:30:36 GMT
i dont like the bloke as a footballer and for his conduct off the pitch as a QPR player, but i would not like any one but the club to deal with it, no solicitors, just get rid and pay him off.
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Post by Hogan on May 17, 2012 18:46:04 GMT
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 17, 2012 18:54:49 GMT
i dont like the bloke as a footballer and for his conduct off the pitch as a QPR player, but i would not like any one but the club to deal with it, no solicitors, just get rid and pay him off. Paying him off would cost way too much though. That money may come out of Hughes transfer budget. |
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Post by fraserinbc on May 17, 2012 19:09:52 GMT
Well I would tend to believe what the sports law bloke said. Once you are sent off you are no longer considered on the field of play. Which is why the FA are dealing with it. It was outside of the ref's jurisdiction. Being a pinkie-liberal I tend to agree with what someone said on London Call-in about trying to help Barton. Shouldn't the club try and help him rather that discard him? Can a leopard really change his spots? Or has he proven that he is beyond reform? |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 17, 2012 19:12:06 GMT
Yes he is well beyond reform.
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Post by tom007 on May 17, 2012 19:17:20 GMT
i believe in sticking up for all our players and we stick by decisions to
get rid of players we have to trust in all our owners and their
decisions they have not done us wrong yet .
if they can be rid of for nothing by sacking him then i am sure it will
be done and very quickly they certainly will not pay him off that
would do our club more harm than good and as already mentioned
would come out of the transfer kitty for sure.
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Post by Hogan on May 17, 2012 19:18:05 GMT
Well I would tend to believe what the sports law bloke said. Once you are sent off you are no longer considered on the field of play. Which is why the FA are dealing with it. It was outside of the ref's jurisdiction. Being a pinkie-liberal I tend to agree with what someone said on London Call-in about trying to help Barton. Shouldn't the club try and help him rather that discard him? Can a leopard really change his spots? Or has he proven that he is beyond reform? One who does not accept he has a problem cannot be helped. Barton refuses to accept that he had lost his head, he says he knew exactly what he was doing. Personally i don't believe him, and, if he did what he did after the red card whilst being in control of his emotions, that is even worse as it shows even less regard for the situation the team were in, the supporters or his team mates. |
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Post by fraserinbc on May 17, 2012 20:10:44 GMT
Not entirely sure where this came from, but it looks like Barton might be seeking professional help after all:
The episode is called "Barton Finks"
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 17, 2012 22:04:19 GMT
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 17, 2012 22:11:00 GMT
i was going along with that untill he slagged of dennis
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Post by andygg on May 18, 2012 13:25:34 GMT
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 19, 2012 0:48:22 GMT
Joey likes the attention, good or bad. Time to put him back in the cot!
Tevez is a piece of crap, everyone knows that. Great goalscorer but a piece of crap. Barton at 29 has enough experience to know and see that. So i am sorry, Joey can say what he likes, but he let the club down, the fans down and his team mates down. All season the only publicity he has given the aforementioned groups, has been bad and embarrassing. It has successfully given us all a bad reputation.
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Post by mm2h on May 19, 2012 2:36:30 GMT
If we cannot get rid of Barton either by way of a transfer (with no ongoing costs being bourne by QPR) or by way of dismaissal for bringing club into disrepute - again with no pay off then we must not simply pay up his contract.
That way Barton is rewarded doubly for his actions. First QPR paying up his contrcat and secondly his wages from some other 'mug' club who take him on - and someone will!
NO. If we cannot get rid of him at no cost and have to keep paying him wages, then stick him in the reserves every week and never let him play for the first team. Let him end his career in a season or two on no publicity or fame. Sooner or later he will explode and then he could be dismissed or offloaded at zero cost
Its all he deserves for his nasty ways and for bringing disrepute to the name of QPR
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Post by sharky on May 19, 2012 14:04:05 GMT
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Barton in double trouble
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19 May 2012-PA Sport
In strife ... serial bad boy Joey Barton is facing the wrath of QPR and the FA (Getty)
Queens Park Rangers manager Mark Hughes has promised to deal with bad-boy Joey Barton once the Football Association has announced its punishment for last week's behaviour against Manchester City.
Barton accepts only one chargeBarton charged by FA
The Hoops captain's future is in doubt after he elbowed Carlos Tevez, kicked Sergio Aguero and appeared to headbutt Vincent Kompany during Rangers' 3-2 defeat at the Etihad Stadium on the final day of the season.
Barton has accepted a charge of violent conduct against Aguero but denied the same charge for his confrontation with Kompany, while QPR have announced they will conduct an internal investigation into his dismissal and subsequent conduct.
Reports earlier this week suggested the west Londoners would consider trying to offload - or even sack - Barton, who has three years left to run on his contract, but Hughes has pledged not to make any rash decisions.
"We are waiting to hear on Joey Barton's punishment," he said.
"He is facing a long ban and we have to take stock of the situation.
"We are awaiting the verdict of the FA and the disciplinary process will take its course.
"As a manager there are 10 other players you have to think about, then 10 who played on against Manchester City.
"We stayed up. It's a relief. And now we start again. This is not all about Joey Barton."
The west Londoners stayed up at the expense of Bolton and are now looking to a brighter future.
Plans for a new state-of-the-art training complex were announced this week and Hughes wants to bolster the squad over the summer in a bid to make QPR an established Barclays Premier League club.
"When I said no team of mine will be in this position again I meant it," the Welshman said.
"Since we've been in the building it has been about creating the standards and behaviour we expect. Now we are ready for the next level.
"In the past, I have signed Vincent Kompany [at Manchester City], Christopher Samba [at Blackburn] and Moussa Dembele [at Fulham].
"They all increased in transfer value playing in those teams. I am seeking similar quality for QPR.
"I am excited about what we can achieve here. The players I want to sign need to know we have plans to be a top club.
"I spent my career playing for big clubs and I want success. I am hungry and ambitious.
"There will be buys and sales. When we walked through the door, there were a lot of players who hadn't figured before and who haven't made an impression on me and my staff.
"They'll move on, they want to play. I want to strengthen, but I believe in buying players before you sell. I don't want to weaken us before we get stronger."
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Post by Hogan on May 19, 2012 14:36:53 GMT
It is interesting that Barton is having to find his own counsel, suggests the club have just had it with him.
In the event that he somehow remains at the club, he should not be made to train with the kids, the kids deserve better than that.
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