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Post by klr on May 15, 2012 19:49:34 GMT
Whilst i think we should get shot of him as soon as we can i can't understand the calls for 10 or more games. Can't see how he can get a bigger ban than saurez did for admiting making racist comments to evra. Maybe they could argue saurez admitted it but he still refused to say what he done was wrong. To the same effect how many games do they give terry if found guilty in a court of law? bet its less than barton gets. Typical FA thinking better to be a racist than a c@#t in their books You think that what Patrice Evra said that Luis Suarez said was worse than what Joey Barton did ?! WOW! |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 15, 2012 20:13:13 GMT
Don't think we can start comparing racial abuse with physically assaulting someone.
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Post by klr on May 15, 2012 20:15:53 GMT
Don't think we can start comparing racial abuse with physically assaulting someone. Irony at its best. Thank F*Ck I wasnt brainwashed, sorry "Educated" under New Labour. |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 15, 2012 20:17:34 GMT
Don't think we can start comparing racial abuse with physically assaulting someone. why not?  ? |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 15, 2012 20:32:42 GMT
Well someone said that he can't see how Barton will get a longer ban than Suarez for his racist comments and I don't think you can use that as a comparison for Barton's case, they are completely different things.
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Post by klr on May 15, 2012 20:41:25 GMT
Well someone said that he can't see how Barton will get a longer ban than Suarez for his racist comments and I don't think you can use that as a comparison for Barton's case, they are completely different things. Sorry Rory, I misunderstood what you said initially. Agree with your comments above, Chalk & Cheese. |
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Post by superckat on May 15, 2012 20:57:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 21:03:07 GMT
Some nasty incidents there but its what Barton does after the red card which is disgraceful |
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 15, 2012 21:09:14 GMT
As our Captain, yes Kat, what Barton did was worse. He is representing not just our club but also as our leader!
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Post by oldrs on May 15, 2012 21:44:18 GMT
wath would worry me if barton stays. some players that we go after might not come to us. as they might think the club is not stable.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 21:49:14 GMT
wath would worry me if barton stays. some players that we go after might not come to us. as they might think the club is not stable. This is a good point Another reason why we should get rid of him if we can |
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Post by superckat on May 15, 2012 21:54:19 GMT
As our Captain, yes Kat, what Barton did was worse. He is representing not just our club but also as our leader! Lone I agree he shouldn't have been captain in the first place and should never be again. Also tbh I would have no problem with the club getting rid of him. I'm just surprised at some of the reactions. |
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Post by Markqpr on May 15, 2012 21:59:17 GMT
I agree totally with Cat.
I'm also left wondering why Impey got a standing ovation for decking an opponent with a right hook, Cisse was defended by most for grabbing an opponent around the throat and yet Barton's head is called for when he does the same and loses his head.
Judge him by his actions on the pitch alone and then always in context.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 15, 2012 22:02:25 GMT
I agree totally with Cat. I'm also left wondering why Impey got a standing ovation for decking an opponent with a right hook, Cisse was defended by most for grabbing an opponent around the throat and yet Barton's head is called for when he does the same and loses his head. Judge him by his actions on the pitch alone and then always in context. I do see your point regarding Cisse and Impey but Barton hasn't performed on the pitch this season at all, with the exception of about 7 or 8 games. Cisse scored the goal the kept us up and even when he did get sent off vs Wolves he didn't try and attack 4 players on his way off the pitch. Joey is captain and should therefore act like one. |
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Post by FloridaR on May 15, 2012 22:32:36 GMT
Got to admit Mark that i got embroiled in the whole saga as Joey was being restrained leaving the pitch but then I looked at the clock and thought ' shit its only 54 minutes, what the f*ck & how are QPR going to survive this half '.
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Post by FloridaR on May 15, 2012 22:34:29 GMT
wath would worry me if barton stays. some players that we go after might not come to us. as they might think the club is not stable. Great point  I'd definitely think twice, especially if Barton's still captain. |
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Post by fraserinbc on May 15, 2012 23:09:46 GMT
Joey Barton hires own solicitor to fight ban: JOEY BARTON has drafted in his own solicitor to help him fight a possible 12-game ban from the FA. The QPR midfielder has requested a personal hearing at Wembley on Friday to face two charges of violent conduct following his red card at Manchester City on Sunday. Barton has shunned the chance to use the club’s own legal specialist in favour of hiring lawyer Mel Stein. And it remains to be seen if Barton attends the hearing after jetting to Portugal following the end of the season. Starsport understands Barton will plead guilty to both charges, but will plead provocation over his attempted headbutt of Vincent Kompany. www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/251534/Joey-Barton-will-fight-ban/? |
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Post by tom007 on May 16, 2012 10:38:25 GMT
lol Chelsea i think not and as scuba i was not drunk and have
attended university and am in a very good career , also in the heat
of a match and when you are out there and getting kicked,elbowed
or punched all over the park several times and nothing gets done
about it as happened in another game i believe against norwich but
could be wrong it appears we have had a very raw deal this
season with refereeing decisions we appear to be seen everytime
but when it is against us it never gets spotted.
all this is very frustrating watching at home let alone being on the
pitch.
my daughter came home from school last year and informed me a
boy in her class was constantly bullying her punching her regularly
in the arm leaving bruising nearly every school day i said she
should let her teacher know she said she does but the teacher
does nothing she just says you are making it up because he was
doing it when the teacher was not looking.
my advice was to give the runt a good slap to which the monday
after since which time she has not had a problem since.
this may seem like a stupid example but my point being on
several occasions barton has complained several times during
games about his treatment by opposing players and recieved no
help from the refs whatsoever.
when you are bullied as i was also at school as a lad it is hard
to keep taking and taking without replying .
i understand he is in the public eye and this is where a simple
thing as looking on a replay would solve all this if a ref had only
to look at a replay or someone was looking on behalf of the ref
and informed him in game what has been seen all this would
not happen.
yes he was stupid but acted the only way he felt he could.
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Post by Macmoish on May 16, 2012 14:47:53 GMT
And from "The Whole Country is behind Bolton" Patrick Barclay/The Standard QPR must rid themselves of bad-boy Joey Barton Share Share this article Email this article Print this article inShare Related Articles Terry picked 'for footballing reasons' Ferdinand set to miss Euros Jamie Mackie signs new QPR deal Suggested Topics Queens Park Rangers Patrick Barclay 16 May 2012 I met Joey Barton several years ago and formed the impression that he had charm and an enquiring mind. But you live and learn and it has long been apparent that this mind was never going to equip Barton with more than a little learning, which, as Alexander Pope so wisely warned us, can be a dangerous thing. Dangerous? The serially disgraced captain of Queens Park Rangers would be described as such by even a couple of erstwhile club-mates. Nor does the presence of television cameras and a worldwide audience deter Barton from retaliating violently against Carlos Tevez, kneeing Sergio Aguero and greeting Vincent Kompany with an apparent invitation to a head-butting contest. We are left with nothing to debate but the length of the suspension for Barton’s one-man riot. Some say the first 10 matches of next season, others 12 or even 15, and yet it all seems inadequate. Barton is not a young player who will mellow as Wayne Rooney seems to have done; he is nearly 30 years old and a strutting advertisement for the fallibility of counselling. He talks — or tweets — with a staggering lack of self-awareness, celebrating Rangers’ avoidance of relegation as if he had contributed to it. But, while the club have earned their place at the Premier table next season, Barton has surely, conclusively, forfeited his right to sit there. The legal discussion thus far has centred on whether Rangers could tear up Barton’s contract, saving themselves the several million pounds due on its remainder. They would be letting the game down if they did not try and, if they improved as sharply as Newcastle upon waving Barton goodbye, could expect reward on and off the pitch. But what about the League’s duty of care to his fellow professionals? I do not believe Barton — any more than Aguero on Sunday — has a leg to stand on. It is time to be rid. www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/qpr-must-rid-themselves-of-badboy-joey-barton-7757248.html |
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Post by Macmoish on May 16, 2012 15:07:58 GMT
Weird! Huffington Post Joey Barton Defended By Eric Joyce Over Football Violence The Huffington Post UK | By Ned Simons Posted: 16/05/2012 Joey Barton, the QPR footballer charged with two acts of violent conduct following his sending-off during his team’s end-of-season game against Manchester City, has won support from someone equally handy at looking after himself - Falkirk MP Eric Joyce. The controversial midfielder saw red for elbowing Carlos Tevez with the TV cameras also showing him attack Sergio Aguero in the aftermath. Coaching staff then had to intervene and manhandle him off the pitch to prevent further confrontations with Manchester City players. Now Joyce, who was forced to quit the Labour Party after being arrested for head-butting a fellow MP in drunken anger, has weighed in, arguing that people are making too big a fuss about it all. "It’s nauseating, surely?" Joyce wrote on his blog, "Not Barton’s skirmish: professional football is a rough old game, but the elevation of a bit of minor violence during what most fans accept is a contact sport and where nobody got hurt, to crime of the century. "If people want to be appalled by human violence and its consequences, they should get themselves to the Eastern Congo, where millions have died and continue to die daily at the hands of maniacs with AK47s, their wives and families raped then murdered with machetes on a daily basis. Joyce added: "I’ll tell you what. If you never want to go and watch a couple of dozen aggressive, supremely talented and justly well-paid athletes fight for your entertainment on a football pitch, then you may have a right to carp. "But otherwise, extrapolating moral and ethical significance from a football match looks like your life might be a bit shite." www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/05/16/joey-barton-defended-by-eric-joyce-over-football-violence_n_1520991.html?ref=uk-politics&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008 |
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Post by Macmoish on May 16, 2012 15:10:03 GMT
And the Blog Post by Falkirk MP Eric Joyce Joey Barton and a nation’s blind hysteria 15/05/2012 22 Comments By Eric Joyce Today I noticed a Labour politician, whom I like, tweet his condemnation of Joey Barton’s on-pitch lashing out at the weekend. The tweet was a high-minded, moral thing about how awful Barton’s violence was; how much of a disgrace he is to football and about the human race in general. The comment accurately reflected widespread national condemnation of Barton, perhaps best exemplified by this blameless vicar from Liverpool. ’BARTON’S VIOLENCE IS THE MOST TERRIBLE OUTRAGE SINCE HITLER’, sort of thing. ’KIDS WERE WATCHING’. ’HE COMES FROM A FAMILY OF SHITE’ (the vicar again, presently being widely celebrated and much retweeted in the ‘sphere). It’s nauseating, surely? Not Barton’s skirmish: professional football is a rough old game, but the elevation of a bit of minor violence during what most fans accept is a contact sport and where nobody got hurt, to crime of the century. From an angry response to provocation (‘I think Tevez may have nibbled at him a bit’ said one TV pundit, euphemistically, during the incident), a momentary loss of temper in a highly-charged situation, Barton’s lapse has morphed into a piece of contemporary action art portraying the fall of man. What the F*** are people talking about? If people want to be appalled by human violence and its consequences, they should get themselves to the Eastern Congo, where millions have died and continue to die daily at the hands of maniacs with AK47s, their wives and families raped then murdered with machetes on a daily basis. Of course, life is cheap there – the Congo isn’t strategically significant, you see, so relatively few people care. It’s a little less cheap, but not much so, in foreign places like the middle east (getting more expensive with the present unrest’s potential economic significance) or perhaps Afghanistan (getting cheaper since everyone’s getting a bit fed up with the women’s stuff and all that and want to leave them all to it now). But these are still worth a comparison with the ‘horrific violence’ of professional football, all the same. Or, if people want to observe high moral values, they could go and watch the synod of the Church of England, or book a meeting with the Dalai Lama – the latter has some time on his hands these days, I understand. But what’s going on when people want to suspend all their normal value judgements when it comes to football? Politicians are carping about huge salaries but leaving out footballers; council-tax payers are preferring that their money is spent on propping up some crap local football team rather than granny’s care-home; Scotland’s journalists turn a blind-eye to the mess of Rangers FC, then go mental and turn it into the only story which matters here -and then preserve their right to express their own moral superiority through the medium of the excuse that they use to escape their wives/husbands for a few precious moments each week. I’ll tell you what. If you never want to go and watch a couple of dozen aggressive, supremely talented and justly well-paid athletes fight for your entertainment on a football pitch, then you may have a right to carp. But otherwise, extrapolating moral and ethical significance from a football match looks like your life might be a bit shite (see vicar, above) and your polemic sounds more like an existential cry for help. And, by the way, you might want to read this this thoughtful Guardian piece about class. And this decent and well-observed piece about being a massive talent from a difficult background; insightful and, actually, sweet (sorry Alex C). ericjoyce.co.uk/2012/05/joey-barton-and-a-nations-blind-hysteria/ |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 16, 2012 15:10:55 GMT
What I find weirder are the amount of QPR fans defending him. Just had a look at WATRB's and they seem to be in love with the bloke.
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Post by londonranger on May 16, 2012 15:17:14 GMT
Hes mental. v Man C he was so abnormal,like he thought he was cornered in a gang fight, and had to take on all comers.
Too many cards, too unreliable.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 16, 2012 15:26:59 GMT
Club statement on Barton coming up shortly. Keep your eyes peeled.
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Post by Hogan on May 16, 2012 15:37:45 GMT
What I find weirder are the amount of QPR fans defending him. Just had a look at WATRB's and they seem to be in love with the bloke. I haven't looked on Fantasy for a bit, but i am not surprised to hear what you say. I bet you anything Freeseat has been defending him too. |
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Post by harlowranger on May 16, 2012 15:38:17 GMT
A statement on the offy saying nothing really?
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Post by scubahoop on May 16, 2012 15:41:22 GMT
Rory mate, don't know if you're on Twitter but most of the QPR fans I follow on there who have expressed an opinion are far more supportive of Barton than the 'high moral tone' approach taken towards him by many on here. Also suspect that most of the people in the ground will be cheering him onto the pitch, if and when he comes back from his ban. Hopefully, he'll have something to prove if he does force himself back into the team and I'm sure he'll produce some excellent performances for us again. If he doesn't, well c'est la vie and we'll have a great team anyway. He is only one player amongst many very good ones. Although saying that, the haters will always find someone else to pick on! Also agree with every word that Joyce says. It is only a bloody game after all. Time to move on from Barton now....
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 16, 2012 15:46:26 GMT
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Post by steveb66 on May 16, 2012 15:48:40 GMT
I wouldnt condone Bartons actions on Sunday but I can see why he reacted the way he did. Tevez started the incident by kicking him in the shins and flailing an arm and yet, once again, the officials only spotted the act of retaliation on his part. Lets face it this has been a theme for QPR this season.
He then boiled over at the injustice of it all, and the more the city players tried to get him sent off the more he reacted angrily. Some people are placid, some people are hot-headed, Barton falls in to the latter category but in those moments when the red mists descend, common sense has precisely nothing to do with it. The next time any one of you becomes an enraged animal because someone cuts in at the cones on the motorway or pulls out of that junction in front of you, stop and think, because we label Barton a nutter but a lot of us are capable of what he did.
When you look at some of those leg breaking tackles and elbows in the face on youtube it makes it wonder whether the press arent over reacting?
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