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Post by harr on Sept 1, 2015 21:40:43 GMT
Nice one Kilburn, I shall have to wait until the next 3-2 Win Been a model pro Charlie but still getting slaughtered from Newcastle fans .... Most neutral fans seem to admire what he did. Not seen anything from Newcastle fans but I can guess. Something to do with bottling it? Newcastle fans are some of the biggest hypocrites out there. They'll scream blue murders if one of their player doesn't show loyalty but they can't understand when a player is loyal to another club rather than come to them. Yeah exactly that Fabs. I just ignore them .
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Post by sharky on Sept 1, 2015 22:52:53 GMT
Woken up to see that it's real, Charlie, Matty etc stayed. Hapy days
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Post by corndog on Sept 2, 2015 1:35:09 GMT
Berahino throwing his toys out the pram and threatening to go on strike as we was not allowed to join spuds, Adebyor wants his contract paid up so he can go on a free, how different to our players that were supposedly targets for other clubs, all have them have been nothing but professional in their attitude and the way they have dealt with it well done to them all, i cant say anymore When I heard about Berahino's tantrum, the first thing I thought about was how professional Austin has been through the whole ordeal. Maybe this club finally does have "the right sort".
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Post by nomar on Sept 2, 2015 7:09:48 GMT
Nice one Kilburn, I shall have to wait until the next 3-2 Win Been a model pro Charlie but still getting slaughtered from Newcastle fans .... Most neutral fans seem to admire what he did. Not seen anything from Newcastle fans but I can guess. Something to do with bottling it? Newcastle fans are some of the biggest hypocrites out there. They'll scream blue murders if one of their player doesn't show loyalty but they can't understand when a player is loyal to another club rather than come to them. In fairness, most all clubs have fans that are like that, us included. NUFC fans are right to be aggrieved too. They spent £13m on an unproven kid who's a card magnet with a horrible disciplinary record when for £2m more they may well have got Charlie. That's down to Ashley and his stingy ways but they have to take their frustration out on someone and considering some QPR fans were goading them I can see why they reacted. Palace fans appear more hurt and understandably so if Charlie did turn them down at the last minute. We'd feel exactly the same if we were 2nd in the Prem and, say, Rhodes allegedly turned us down on deadline day to stay at Blackburn. Sometimes, a little perspective and empathy is needed, I feel.
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Post by Marc on Sept 2, 2015 7:21:38 GMT
Not seen anything from Newcastle fans but I can guess. Something to do with bottling it? Newcastle fans are some of the biggest hypocrites out there. They'll scream blue murders if one of their player doesn't show loyalty but they can't understand when a player is loyal to another club rather than come to them. In fairness, most all clubs have fans that are like that, us included. NUFC fans are right to be aggrieved too. They spent £13m on an unproven kid who's a card magnet with a horrible disciplinary record when for £2m more they may well have got Charlie. That's down to Ashley and his stingy ways but they have to take their frustration out on someone and considering some QPR fans were goading them I can see why they reacted. Palace fans appear more hurt and understandably so if Charlie did turn them down at the last minute. We'd feel exactly the same if we were 2nd in the Prem and, say, Rhodes allegedly turned us down on deadline day to stay at Blackburn. Sometimes, a little perspective and empathy is needed, I feel. To be fair, I haven't actually seen what they said but my experience of Newcastle fans tends to be that they feel they are the best supporters in the world and every player should want to play for them. I do have empathy with them as far as Ashley's concerned but their ire should be directed at him rather than Charlie. If, as you say, we were in Palace's position and Rhodes turned us down to stay at Blackburn, I can guarantee I would not be vilifying him in any way. I don't expect a player to sign for us just because we're in a higher division.
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Post by harr on Sept 2, 2015 7:44:21 GMT
Think him and Amy should give up now
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Post by harr on Sept 2, 2015 8:01:11 GMT
I know Charlie, Green and Phillips are nailed on to be leaving in the summer. What about Fer? Any chance he'll stay? He would be very dangerous to opponents in the Championship. We all thought so Camel Sometimes strange things happen against all odds ......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 8:20:10 GMT
Forgetting about who we signed or not and who we sold or not; I think we can look back and say the club has behaved in a very professional honourable and stable manner during this Window.
When you look at some of the other fallout around Berahino, Berbatov, DeGea, Walters etc etc we have done well and it shows what a farce the Window has become. Time for the authorities to rethink a few things imo.
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Post by harr on Sept 2, 2015 8:23:38 GMT
Forgetting about who we signed or not and who we sold or not; I think we can look back and say the club has behaved in a very professional honourable and stable manner during this Window. When you look at some of the other fallout around Berahino, Berbatov, DeGea, Walters etc etc we have done well and it shows what a farce the Window has become. Time for the authorities to rethink a few things imo. Definitely 57 . We are out the limelight at the minute, let a few other teams get it horribly wrong. We need to build things up and do it the right way not going overboard. In a strange way with the Football League and FFP looking at us might have worked in slight favour some way.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Sept 2, 2015 9:39:37 GMT
Forgetting about who we signed or not and who we sold or not; I think we can look back and say the club has behaved in a very professional honourable and stable manner during this Window. When you look at some of the other fallout around Berahino, Berbatov, DeGea, Walters etc etc we have done well and it shows what a farce the Window has become. Time for the authorities to rethink a few things imo. I think the only thing wrong with the summer transfer window is that it extends so far beyond the the start of the season. That clubs f*** up their own deals by leaving them to within minutes of the deadline is down to their own poor practices - you can't legislate for sheer incompetence (come back Gianni, all is forgiven!!). Spurs trying to unsettle Berahino (and succeeding) to manipulate his price down, Man U/Real dragging out a deal that's been on the cards for MONTHS to the last seconds... pathetic. Totally agree that the club and players have acted in an admirable way throughout, a real class act by all concerned - and how refreshingly different from the past few years.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Sept 2, 2015 9:56:48 GMT
Forgetting about who we signed or not and who we sold or not; I think we can look back and say the club has behaved in a very professional honourable and stable manner during this Window. When you look at some of the other fallout around Berahino, Berbatov, DeGea, Walters etc etc we have done well and it shows what a farce the Window has become. Time for the authorities to rethink a few things imo. I think the only thing wrong with the summer transfer window is that it extends so far beyond the the start of the season. That clubs f*** up their own deals by leaving them to within minutes of the deadline is down to their own poor practices - you can't legislate for sheer incompetence (come back Gianni, all is forgiven!!). Spurs trying to unsettle Berahino (and succeeding) to manipulate his price down, Man U/Real dragging out a deal that's been on the cards for MONTHS to the last seconds... pathetic. Totally agree that the club and players have acted in an admirable way throughout, a real class act by all concerned - and how refreshingly different from the past few years. Agree with all of that apart from the Dea Gea/Madrid bit which was a ruthless bit of genius from Madrid to ensure they get him for nothing next summer
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Post by bowranger on Sept 2, 2015 10:46:45 GMT
Genuinely can't believe how we've come out of this transfer window. Was convinced Austin was off, was fairly sure Pulis would swarm in on Phillips at the last minute (pure hypocrisy from Pulis on that front. Still enjoy his rant about not being "held to ransom" on transfer fees, get real). Come the end of the window, we've held onto our best players and we're on a little unbeaten run (if you exclude the cup, as we do every single year...). To me, the priorities were to make sure there was an adequate replacement for Austin and Philips when they went - and they didn't. Onouha and Hall are developing as a partnership but we lack depth in defence and needed to shore up - we take one of the promoted teams' CBs on a season long loan - someone's who is proven at this level, without a transfer fee and (presumably) within our wage structure. Gobern going out on loan was the icing really. Seems like we've cut our losses on Hoilett and Traore. My best bet would be Hoilett going off to the MLS where he'd probably terrorise defences (surprised a lower Championship club didn't take a punt on him but I guess wages are an issue) and Traore may go to Turkey where there's been interest before (the official graveyard of failed Premier League personnel). But that's just me speculating.
Can't complain. Most of the high earners out. Best players kept. Added talent where necessary, sensibly. Still have some lingering doubts about the full-backs but part of me thinks that is a symptom of throwing money about in the past - a lot of Championship teams would be very, very happy to have Perch and Konchesky, even if they wouldn't be my ideal choice and at least the latter is improving week on week, his tendency to hoof-it aside.
And we didn't spray our transfer rumours allover the bloody tabloids, leaving them to throw crap at the wall regarding Austin.
Dare I say "lessons learnt"..? Well, we say that every year don't we...
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Post by nomar on Sept 2, 2015 15:26:12 GMT
Forgetting about who we signed or not and who we sold or not; I think we can look back and say the club has behaved in a very professional honourable and stable manner during this Window. When you look at some of the other fallout around Berahino, Berbatov, DeGea, Walters etc etc we have done well and it shows what a farce the Window has become. Time for the authorities to rethink a few things imo. I think the only thing wrong with the summer transfer window is that it extends so far beyond the the start of the season. That clubs f*** up their own deals by leaving them to within minutes of the deadline is down to their own poor practices - you can't legislate for sheer incompetence (come back Gianni, all is forgiven!!). Spurs trying to unsettle Berahino (and succeeding) to manipulate his price down, Man U/Real dragging out a deal that's been on the cards for MONTHS to the last seconds... pathetic. Totally agree that the club and players have acted in an admirable way throughout, a real class act by all concerned - and how refreshingly different from the past few years. Yep. TDD is just for ratings really but it works so the league has no reason to change it anytime soon. I never understand why teams leave it until the final hours of the last day either but like you say that's their stupid fault for allowing themselves to get into that situation.
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Post by sharky on Sept 2, 2015 16:01:17 GMT
I too am happy that we,ve retained our best players. Just one concern and that's how can we afford them all. We may have to send some of them out on loans to make FFP. Sandro, Hoilett, Traore, comne to mind. Others?
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Post by sharky on Sept 2, 2015 16:21:38 GMT
Never thought I'd ever see this headline! From bwin news.bwin.com/en/football-betting/championship/forget-west-ham-and-everton-no-one-had-a-better-deadline-day-than-qpr,84948.html Forget West Ham and Everton – no one had a better deadline day than QPR7/2 QPR to be promoted Transfer window misdemeanours have been the downfall of QPR in recent seasons, but the summer of 2015/16 will be one they can look back on fondly. The R’s recruitment team are deserving of some rare praise after getting 18 players through the door without splurging obscene amounts of cash, but those who managed to keep hold of both Charlie Austin AND Matt Phillips warrant special commendation. As a result of retaining this coveted pair, the Super Hoops have been slashed for Championship promotion this season. Prior to deadline day, Chris Ramsey’s side could be backed at 4/1 to return to the Premier League at the earliest possible opportunity. Once the 6pm bell tolled, they whittled down into 7/2 to go up, while their odds to claim the title shrivelled from 12/1 into 10/1. After Austin fired 18 goals in the Premier League last term, few envisaged him hanging around Loftus Road too long once they slipped out of the top tier, but suitors weren’t willing to meet the R’s £15m valuation of their frontman, especially with his contract set to expire in less than a year. There‘s sure to be ample interested parties next summer when he’s available for nothing and another goal-laden campaign in the Championship won’t do his prospects of landing a big move any harm. Austin’s chances of achieving his net-bulging objective have been immeasurably enhanced by the fact he’ll have Phillips providing him with the ammunition until January at least. The former Blackpool man was one of the most prolific assisters in the Premier League last term, whose seven post-Christmas assists saw him ranked alongside Europe’s finest conjurers up until the start of the current campaign. Having set up two goals and scored as many, the Scotland international is promising to be as invaluable as Austin in QPR’s promotion bid. Aware of the threat the R’s now pose, bwin bookmaker Glenn Woodage had this to say: “We were calm about QPR’s promotion chances when it looked like their star men would be sold, but now they’re staying the chances of an immediate Premier League return are much stronger. “So many times we’ve seen a guaranteed goalscorer and potent supply line compensate for deficiencies in other areas of a team to bring success and the R’s are well endowed in both departments.”
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Post by sharky on Sept 2, 2015 16:37:29 GMT
Interesting twist on not selling Matty that I wasn't aware of. Extract from a Blackpool Gazette article. www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/blackpool-fc/pool-latest/blackpool-miss-out-on-transfer-targets-and-phillips-cash-1-7439332?" Pool also missed out on a cash windfall yesterday, with Matt Phillips staying at QPR.
The winger was linked to several Premier League clubs and West Brom were expected to swoop with an offer of around £9m.
As part of the deal which saw Phillips leave Blackpool for Loftus Road in 2013, Pool are entitled to around 10 per cent of any future transfer fee above the £5m the London club paid for the 24-year-old.
It means Pool missed out on as much as £400,000 after Phillips stayed put."
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Post by sharky on Sept 2, 2015 16:43:09 GMT
Also on players going out, from sportinglife. Different clubs have different expectations and different levels to aim for I suppose! www.sportinglife.com/football/league-one/news/article/419/9976311/-?Dickov thrilled to sign GobernLast Updated: September 2 2015, 12:43 BST Doncaster boss Paul Dickov is "buzzing" after bagging the loan signing of Oscar Gobern. Oscar Gobern: Has joined Doncaster Rovers on loan Rovers swooped for the QPR midfielder before the deadline on Tuesday, bringing the 24-year-old in on a four-month loan just weeks after he signed for Rangers following his decision to leave Huddersfield. Gobern had yet to taste league action with QPR, but started the Capital One Cup games against Yeovil and Carlisle and has now been allowed to join Doncaster until January. "I am buzzing with Oscar," admitted Dickov. "I was close to signing him in the summer - he played the last 12/13 games for Huddersfield last season in the Championship and was by far their best player. "He decided, and nobody could argue with him at the time, to go to QPR, but he has not had the game time he would have wanted. "At six-foot-three he is a big, physical presence, is very fit and very quick and will give us a bit of balance because he has got a lovely left foot as well. "He is a player I have watched for a long time and I am delighted to finally get him." Dickov also revealed midfield ace Richie Wellens will be back in the squad for this weekend's match at Gillingham after a move away from the Keepmoat Stadium fell through. "Richie will be in training on Thursday as his move failed to materialise," said Dickov. "It didn't quite happen for him, so he will be available for selection. "The whole reason he wanted to move was to be with a club a lot nearer where he lives. There will certainly be no problems bringing him back into the squad because Richie Wellens at his best is a quality player."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 6:39:45 GMT
A wonderful one line report on BBC quoting the Independent this morning sums it all up.
"Arsenal fans planned to protest on Wednesday evening outside Emirates Stadium over the club's lack of action in the transfer window, but no-one turned up. (Independent)"
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Post by harr on Sept 3, 2015 6:47:37 GMT
To sign just one Goalkeeper the whole summer was pretty amazing really. You can see the clubs supporters frustrations. You cant just standstill in the Premiership. If you do that IMO you go backwards.
The only plus for Arsenal is Spurs look poor so far and so do Liverpool.
One of these will still probably get into the top four with Man C , Man U and Chelsea.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 3, 2015 9:05:44 GMT
So what do we do with this Thread? Keep it open for the Loan Window (Ins and Out)...Or even the January Window...or start new one?
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Post by blatantfowl on Sept 3, 2015 9:31:04 GMT
I say close this one and if you think a thread is even needed for the emergency loan window then start a fresh one.
Would be good if the new thread started with a post reminding of the loan rules. I cannot find an answer right now whether we can send players on a overseas loan.
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Post by harr on Sept 3, 2015 9:49:14 GMT
Yeah probably best to let this one drop away now, just put the loan signing if it happens on a seperate thread etc . Start a new one in Dec for Jan Window . That way the 100 plus page record one of mine lives on . Where is that thread, I miss it Seriously though , thanks for all work on this one done by everyone, specially Eus , Sharky etc .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 10:00:46 GMT
I would lock it this weekend and probably start a new one for the loan window. We might see more going out than coming in during the loan window although I would like to see 2 more additions to balance the squad.
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Post by bowranger on Sept 3, 2015 10:12:18 GMT
I quite like this thread being left open just as a general catch-all for transfer rumours and discussions.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Sept 3, 2015 11:10:44 GMT
OK, regarding loans, does anyone know just which teams/leagues are eligible to take on loanees?
My understanding is that Premier League clubs can't take on new loanees as of the end of the just closed transfer window.
That would leave all of the Football League clubs - but what of the top European, Asian, South American leagues or MLS?
I'm just thinking some of our remaining 'unfavoured' top earners might still be shunted out to get off the payroll - our squad is pretty big as things stand today.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Sept 3, 2015 11:25:17 GMT
So what do we do with this Thread? Keep it open for the Loan Window (Ins and Out)...Or even the January Window...or start new one? Two words, slam shut
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Sept 3, 2015 13:09:17 GMT
Keep it open as I think we'll be bringing maybe one or two in during the loan window
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Post by Marc on Sept 3, 2015 13:40:37 GMT
Here's a question, why do we need a separate thread for each transfer/loan window? How about just renaming this one "Transfers" or "Players in/out" and letting it run?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 14:08:46 GMT
OK, regarding loans, does anyone know just which teams/leagues are eligible to take on loanees? My understanding is that Premier League clubs can't take on new loanees as of the end of the just closed transfer window. That would leave all of the Football League clubs - but what of the top European, Asian, South American leagues or MLS? I'm just thinking some of our remaining 'unfavoured' top earners might still be shunted out to get off the payroll - our squad is pretty big as things stand today. I think the top European Leagues operate the same as the PL. Football League teams can take loans but there are a number of restrictions about how long for etc.
Pity really because I heard Benfica are interested in Traore after he was highly recommended to them by Adel Fat Boy Slim
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Post by sharky on Sept 3, 2015 15:26:34 GMT
Close it and open a new loans thread
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