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Post by Jon Doeman on Oct 15, 2011 19:37:00 GMT
Funny that he didn't link LFW worse comments there, does he have an agenda?
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Post by Bushman on Oct 15, 2011 20:05:21 GMT
Funny that he didn't link LFW worse comments there, does he have an agenda? He just likes to lurk and then make snide remarks elsewhere Jon.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 15, 2011 20:15:26 GMT
The QPR boss was also keen to have his say on a leak that appeared on an internet fans forum on Friday, which revealed intimate details regarding his team selection. Showing a piece of paper with an e-mail address which read ricroc@hotmail.co.uk, he said: "It's disappointing that a 'so-called' QPR fan leaks confidential information about the team the day before a big match. "I can't get my head around things like this. As a QPR fan, he certainly didn't do me any favours." To be fair to ricroc when he did realise he had dropped a clanger, he did ask the owner of the site he posted it on to delete the thread but it was left on it. Strange as the owner of the site works for QPR.
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Post by blockhead on Oct 15, 2011 20:19:50 GMT
In the old days if we wanted trouble, we did not have to create it.
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Oct 15, 2011 20:34:50 GMT
i reckon the player or staff who told this poster dropped the clanger
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Post by Bushman on Oct 15, 2011 20:39:20 GMT
i reckon the player or staff who told this poster dropped the clanger They both did maude as well as the clown who runs the site.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 15, 2011 21:04:21 GMT
There are several separate things (besides the obvious sympathies to Campbell - and US - for is absence)
1) The person who leaked it 2) The poster who posted it 3) The failure of the site to remove the post - even after the poster supposedly made a personal request 4)And Warnock's reaction... All interesting points. I think the club's posting on the Official Site, the guy's email is totally and completely beyond the pale. Just. Not. Right. They should be ashamed of themselves. Regardless of what Warnock may have said.
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Post by blockhead on Oct 15, 2011 21:45:45 GMT
how did the email address of a poster get to NW?
I doubt the poster did that!
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Oct 15, 2011 23:14:22 GMT
There are several separate things (besides the obvious sympathies to Campbell - and US - for is absence) 1) The person who leaked it 2) The poster who posted it 3) The failure of the site to remove the post - even after the poster supposedly made a personal request 4)And Warnock's reaction... All interesting points. I think the club's posting on the Official Site, the guy's email is totally and completely beyond the pale. Just. Not. Right. They should be ashamed of themselves. Regardless of what Warnock may have said. i see trouble ahead
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Post by bowles on Oct 16, 2011 0:23:23 GMT
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Post by bowranger on Oct 16, 2011 0:56:21 GMT
neil warnock using that as an excuse for a bad showing from rangers is very poor imo! does anyone really think that blackburn have a team of internet geeks trawling all the sites of teams that they are going to be playing? COME ON THIS IS SHITE AND IM SORRY WARNOCK HAS SHOWN A REALLY POOR HANDERLING OF THE WHOLE AFFAIR! im really not happy with neil tonight or rangers as a whole! very poor! He isn't using it as an excuse, he's pointing out that leaking team news into the public domain is unhelpful. It would still have been unhelpful if we won 1-0 today. You show me where he blames the email leak for a bad performance? Today was shite, but get a grip.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 16, 2011 1:43:10 GMT
There are several separate things (besides the obvious sympathies to Campbell - and US - for is absence) 1) The person who leaked it 2) The poster who posted it 3) The failure of the site to remove the post - even after the poster supposedly made a personal request 4)And Warnock's reaction... All interesting points. I think the club's posting on the Official Site, the guy's email is totally and completely beyond the pale. Just. Not. Right. They should be ashamed of themselves. Regardless of what Warnock may have said. Exactly Mac, points 1 & 3 especially. Just how did the club know ric ocs e-mail address?? something does not appear right about this.
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Post by superckat on Oct 16, 2011 1:57:32 GMT
The single worst thing about this whole affair is the revealing of the email address. Well out of order. Personally don't think Ric Roc has done anything wrong and didn't deserve that. That site made its name based on such rumours. He is a member there and did what came naturally. He asked for it to be deleted and it wasn't.
How the club actually got his email address is something that should be investigated. Surely it wasn't given to the club by someone. I would hope that kind of sell out behaviour no longer exists within our fan base.
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Post by Hogan on Oct 16, 2011 2:12:08 GMT
There are several separate things (besides the obvious sympathies to Campbell - and US - for is absence) 1) The person who leaked it 2) The poster who posted it 3) The failure of the site to remove the post - even after the poster supposedly made a personal request 4)And Warnock's reaction... All interesting points. I think the club's posting on the Official Site, the guy's email is totally and completely beyond the pale. Just. Not. Right. They should be ashamed of themselves. Regardless of what Warnock may have said. Shame on the idiot who gave this info to the person who subsequently posted it on a messageboard, and more shame on the site who considering has an owner who has contact with the club (and even boasts about his itk status) didn't verify and subsequently remove the thread. Even more shame on the club to publish the posters email address. Shame on them all. Many times over the years some of us have been given info, i know i have, but the way this was done and then not dealt with in the correct manner is just pure shameful. NW should find out who leaked it, and plug that leak, not make excuses for todays permance, the poster who even asked for it to be removed should take a long hard look at himself, and the webiste that allowed it to remain in the public domain should be the held to account most, as i mentioned above it had the opportunity to do something about it and then to remove the post.
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Post by superckat on Oct 16, 2011 2:24:31 GMT
Funny that he didn't link LFW worse comments there, does he have an agenda? Jon he has always done it. These days we don't consider him to be important enough to bother about. To be honest he doesn't even register as a blip on our radar. Think of Jay Z's lyrics "I got 99 problems and a b*tch aint one". Ok we havent got 99 problems and you change "b*tch" to "snitch" if you want, but you get my drift. So he is free to continue. I suppose everyone has their role to play on messageboards. So I guess that's his. Good luck to him.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 16, 2011 7:30:39 GMT
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Post by Markqpr on Oct 16, 2011 8:35:48 GMT
Funny that he didn't link LFW worse comments there, does he have an agenda? Deflection. In the usual hypocritical style. Imagine being that stupid that you don't see your own hypocrisy, so much so that you end up looking like an ignorant child, constantly having to lie all the time just so you can smear fellow QPR behind their backs. In the words of B.A. Baracus: 'I pity the fool'.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 16, 2011 9:14:12 GMT
The club has a leaker...They should deal with him.
The Club Posted a fan's email on their official site...Bad enough for Warnock to show a piece of paper with the email...Wrong. Very wrong. But that's heat of the moment. (Bad enough to even name him, which I think Holloway did once with Paul Finney. But this is worse). Even worse is the Club Official Site posting the Email...as part of Warnock's comments (As if the club always posts everything said by the manager!)
As to how the club obtained that private email: If a moderator or board owner, passed on that email, that would be completely reprehensible.
As for the actual poster who posted his ITK...Should he have done it? Well sometimes one does something without fully thinking it through. Or not considering negatives.
But the fan says he heard from the club...And then requested directly to the owner of the site to remove the post. It was. And then was put back on by the owner. Little confusing the reasoning (or methodology)
I'd say the fan posting the ITK was the least "significant" part of this issue - especially in terms of broader implications of what it means vis-a-vis the club, and (ostensibly) independent messageboards.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 16, 2011 9:48:42 GMT
If I was Ric Roc, I would be wondering if it was even worth staying on a site that does not do a users request, especially when rung directly by the user as soon as he was asked to remove it and he thus rang the part owner to have that done. I'd also wonder if it was worth staying on a site that has appeared allegedly to give out his e-mail address.
I think Ric Roc is the victim in this. Doing a thread on what he believed to be a credible news worthy item - as we all would have thought too. Whom gave the info to Ric Roc needs to be outed and dealt with by the club - promptly.
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Post by enzian on Oct 16, 2011 10:22:10 GMT
Being the seventh moron of a seventh moron and overcome by the fluence, I see the hand of Paladini and the arse of queue block penelope in this.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 16, 2011 10:41:31 GMT
I wonder how the site owner deleted the thread and then managed to magic it back up again at the request of someone at the club. Would that someone happen to be in the press office and a mate of the site owner.
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Post by Markqpr on Oct 16, 2011 10:46:40 GMT
Being the seventh moron of a seventh moron and overcome by the fluence, I see the hand of Paladini and the arse of queue block penelope in this. ;D I doubt Pallidini's involvement at all. A poster, in haste and without hindsight, posted team selection info the day before the game on the WORLD WIDE web, the club then handled it badly by requesting it stayed up apparently, to the club employee who owns the commercial site where it was posted. The site in turn is not to blame for the post nor the club's reaction, but does need to refute beyond all doubt that it was them who supplied the club with the poster's email address. To say it should have been deleted doesn't work for me, as I and no one else made a call for it to be deleted when it was repeated on this site, as once it's up, it's up and spreads like wildfire. The problem starts at the club where the original source lies and ends at the club in their handling of it. I personally think the original poster made a mistake which was compounded by a bigger one by the club in their handling of it. Something the new owner and CEO need to get a grip on and they need to start in house before looking outside at a web forum.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 16, 2011 13:50:54 GMT
For some strange reason, I can't thinking back to the days of Sousa....What went on...What stayed on...Was what deleted...What was restored...And contact information given to the club... And of course "ground rules." Flashbck: April 2009 - A WATRB Statement re "Sensitive Information" Pete (Before he became the Correspondent) « Thread Started on Apr 11, 2009, 12:15am » Statement regarding "Sensitive Information" Following the official club Statment, we cannot have any information that is sensitive in nature regarding certain current club players on this Forum. We do not know if players details released are accurate, but we do know it should be between the club and the contracted players. The points raised were sensitive and very specific which no-one outside the club should be privvy to, if true. At this stage we are merely speculating and with the current position at the club, its not actually helping anyone until a full investigation takes place. The article in question appeared on more than one web-site and we do not know of/if any other things relating to sensitive information have been passed onto fans away from messageboards or forums. We have to accept that it is very possible that other personal details have been expressed to fans outside any QPR related forum. Please at this time, can we refrain from posting details about players that should not be in the public domain. All information that the WATRB's team perceive not to be common knowledge on current players, will be removed www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7107
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 16, 2011 16:15:13 GMT
Metro METRO WEB REPORTER - 16th October, 2011 Neil Warnock blasts QPR supporters' website for team news leaks Neil Warnock has launched an angry tirade at a QPR fan, after details of his team selection appeared on supporters' website We Are The Rangers Boys the day before the game against Blackburn. DJ Campbell missed Saturday's 1-1 draw after breaking a bone in his foot during training on Thursday. Neil Warnock pointed the finger at a fan for leaking team news (PA) Neil Warnock pointed the finger at a fan for leaking team news (PA) Hoops boss Warnock had hoped to keep the injury a secret until just before kick-off, but a fan posted the news, together with other details of his line-up, on the We Are The Rangers Boys internet forum on Friday. After the game, the outspoken manager held up a piece of paper displaying the supporter's email address and launched into one of his famous rants. 'We have got a website where a QPR fan puts information on the website yesterday after we'd had the accident. I can't believe it,' said Warnock. 'He puts on this website that Campbell has broken his foot, (Heidar) Helguson is playing and (Jamie) Mackie is making his debut, while Adel Taarabt is out. 'This is supposed to be a supporter. You don't want many supporters like that. What an advantage for the opposition.' He continued: 'Obviously he has got a contact, hasn't he? But if he thinks he is helping me, if he is a QPR fan, it is exactly the opposite. 'I don't understand supporters like that unless it is to get a bit of kudos with his mates. It does my head in things like that.' Campbell, a summer signing from Blackpool, will be out of action for up to eight weeks after breaking the bone - an injury Warnock attributed to the 'absolutely stupid boots' modern footballers wear. www.metro.co.uk/sport/878738-neil-warnock-blasts-qpr-supporters-website-for-team-news-leaks#ixzz1axhkWpVU
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Post by cpr on Oct 16, 2011 16:58:53 GMT
"'Obviously he has got a contact, hasn't he?"
Clearly and that's where Colin should be looking rather than digging out fans.
Time Colin went for a chat with the deers in Richmond Park again methinks, his brain is getting addled!
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Post by Jon Doeman on Oct 16, 2011 17:24:01 GMT
"'Obviously he has got a contact, hasn't he?" Clearly and that's where Colin should be looking rather than digging out fans. Time Colin went for a chat with the deers in Richmond Park again methinks, his brain is getting addled! Don't know if true or not. www.not606.com/showthread.php/94197-DJ-fined-by-QPR
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Post by bowles on Oct 16, 2011 18:54:24 GMT
neil warnock using that as an excuse for a bad showing from rangers is very poor imo! does anyone really think that blackburn have a team of internet geeks trawling all the sites of teams that they are going to be playing? COME ON THIS IS SHITE AND IM SORRY WARNOCK HAS SHOWN A REALLY POOR HANDERLING OF THE WHOLE AFFAIR! im really not happy with neil tonight or rangers as a whole! very poor! He isn't using it as an excuse, he's pointing out that leaking team news into the public domain is unhelpful. It would still have been unhelpful if we won 1-0 today. You show me where he blames the email leak for a bad performance? Today was shite, but get a grip. im sorry me old mate buts its neil warnock who needs to get a grip , waving bits of paper about with some ones email address on it and slagging a fan off! DO YOU OR NEIL IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS THINK ANYONE FROM BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB WOULD BE READING A RANGERS FAN SITE??? DO YOU??? IF YOU DO MATE YOU NEED TO GET A GRIP ON REALITY! ALSO IT DOES COME ACROSS TO ME AND MANY FANS IVE SPOKEN TO THAT NEIL IS USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE WHICH IS POOR IMO!
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Oct 16, 2011 18:58:28 GMT
He isn't using it as an excuse, he's pointing out that leaking team news into the public domain is unhelpful. It would still have been unhelpful if we won 1-0 today. You show me where he blames the email leak for a bad performance? Today was shite, but get a grip. im sorry me old mate buts its neil warnock who needs to get a grip , waving bits of paper about with some ones email address on it and slagging a fan off! DO YOU OR NEIL IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS THINK ANYONE FROM BLACKBURN ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB WOULD BE READING A RANGERS FAN SITE??? DO YOU??? IF YOU DO MATE YOU NEED TO GET A GRIP ON REALITY! ALSO IT DOES COME ACROSS TO ME AND MANY FANS IVE SPOKEN TO THAT NEIL IS USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE WHICH IS POOR IMO! this is what i am thinking too bowles, not nice of neil to do that. everyone is coming out of this as a plank.
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Post by harlowranger on Oct 16, 2011 19:11:52 GMT
Kean has already said that he had employed someone especially in their Team to mark Taraabt so he didnt have clue .
I think we are allowed to dicuss if we are happy on here with what NW is doing and generally we always are but there is a few small cracks appearing . Was it right to do what he did to Traore the way he did .? Barton should he be warned for twitter and all these comments.? Tarbs scenario and now this . Seems to be much to much happening off the field , distractions , discipline , whos job function does all this fall into ? Someone needs to address it all. I think with the players we have we can now at least compete in this League, so roll your sleeves up and fcuking compete , that includes Barton , SWP and Tarbs we know they have the skill to destroy any team on there day .
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Post by bowles on Oct 16, 2011 19:27:07 GMT
Sorry about the rant chaps but i just feel neil is wrong in the way he has handled this! i really rate neil as a manager and thank him from the bottom of my heart for what he has done for our club but i think on this one he is wrong and now he has calmed down im sure he feels the same as well!
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