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Post by Macmoish on Oct 30, 2023 20:38:28 GMT
Martí Cifuentes arrives as QPR head coach 16 minutes ago By QPR FC Share QPR are delighted to announce the appointment of Martí Cifuentes as the club’s new head coach. The 41-year-old Spaniard arrives from Swedish top-flight side Hammarby, where he has been for the past two years. QPR CEO Lee Hoos said: “We are delighted to bring Martí in and I would firstly like to thank Hammarby for being fantastic to deal with throughout the process. “Martí is an exciting appointment and we look forward to seeing the impact he can have. “Having a succession plan in place is a necessary part of football, irrespective of how the team are performing. “Martí is someone we have been aware of so we are really pleased to have been able to secure his services.” Cifuentes, who has previously coached in the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and Denmark, took control of his last fixture for Hammarby this evening (Monday). He will arrive in London on Tuesday when he will conduct his first interview with club channels. This appointment is subject to a work permit. www.qpr.co.uk/news/2023/october/30/marti-cifuentes-appointed/ |
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 30, 2023 20:54:55 GMT
WHO ? is the first question... Quickly followed by why !
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 30, 2023 21:00:36 GMT
So we could of gone for Warnock, Beale , Rowett Warburton, Eustace even Pearson... but no that would of been to easy.
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Post by harr on Oct 30, 2023 21:09:02 GMT
Already making this appointment will split the fan base in our current situation we are in.
Unless results come quickly this will go pear shaped in a flash.
I hope he is a good motivator.
Big risk by the owners let’s hope pays off or League 1 awaits.
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Post by harr on Oct 30, 2023 21:10:31 GMT
So we could have gone for Warnock, Beale , Rowett Warburton, Eustace even Pearson... but no that would have been to easy. Me personally I would have talking all of those first 3 rather than they way we have gone. |
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Post by blatantfowl on Oct 30, 2023 21:22:18 GMT
A gamble is exactly what I came here to say.
Of course, I’ll back him all the way but I think this is the first time I’ve seen a management appointment that is so inscrutable in its choice that I cannot see any merit in it.
Just when we desperately need stability and a steady experienced hand we go totally left field.
If we have players not motivated and not pulling their weight how is someone with no reputation going to win them over?!?
I fear they’ll be doing the “haka” before we know it!
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Post by nomar on Oct 30, 2023 21:59:30 GMT
I believe they were after him when Warbs left, but Beale won them over with his PowerPoint display.
He appears to be the same metric that they used to get Beale, so you would think that he’s a similar type of manager, tactically speaking.
In fairness, this is more like the kind of appointment they were going for last year, which is why Ainsworth was such a huge departure from the template that Dave MacIntyre called the appointment akin to throwing out the bath water, bath and baby!
I did think Warnock till the end of the season made a lot of sense, but if this guy can reach these players, and his age suggests that he will have a better chance of doing that than a 72 year old, and get Chair and Willock playing football with a smile on their faces again then I’m all for it.
The dressing room must be so relieved right now to actually be getting in a manager who isn’t from the Stone Age and likes to play possession based football.
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Post by harr on Oct 30, 2023 21:59:59 GMT
(Having a succession plan in place is a necessary part of football, irrespective of how the team are performing.!,! )
That’s a brave statement considering where we lie in the table.
Hope if we do end up in League One we can then offload Hoo’s as a bare minimum, waste of space.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Oct 30, 2023 23:33:29 GMT
I believe they were after him when Warbs left, but Beale won them over with his PowerPoint display. He appears to be the same metric that they used to get Beale, so you would think that he’s a similar type of manager, tactically speaking. In fairness, this is more like the kind of appointment they were going for last year, which is why Ainsworth was such a huge departure from the template that Dave MacIntyre called the appointment akin to throwing out the bath water, bath and baby! I did think Warnock till the end of the season made a lot of sense, but if this guy can reach these players, and his age suggests that he will have a better chance of doing that than a 72 year old, and get Chair and Willock playing football with a smile on their faces again then I’m all for it. The dressing room must be so relieved right now to actually be getting in a manager who isn’t from the Stone Age and likes to play possession based football. Spot on Nomar, it was between Beale and our new manager over a year ago. Light years ahead of Ainsworth in terms of tactics and team shape. |
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Post by powerpump on Oct 31, 2023 1:30:51 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Oct 31, 2023 3:40:44 GMT
Will he be here in time for Rotherham?
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Post by stylecouncillor on Oct 31, 2023 5:52:56 GMT
What worries me is this is all a little to Beale like. Manager nobody has heard of steps into English football. Does a half decent job .5 minutes later buggers off to pastures new....I just hope he has higher scruples. 🙏. But good luck.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 31, 2023 6:45:44 GMT
I'm not scared he'll exit QPR this season. I'm scared about the timing. And he'll have no time. And no time to learning. This is a Summer appointment not now.
Maybe we couldnt afford Warnock or he didnt want QPR return. Otherwise I'd have gone for him.
And we're not Brentford. We don't have a great track record of Managerial appointments.
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Post by harr on Oct 31, 2023 7:13:29 GMT
All I will say is he ideally needs to win one of the two games before the international break.
He needs a fast start.
Beale started off worse in his first 5 games than Ainsworth did before going onto a great streak that took us top.
If he doesn’t win at Rotherham he needs that home win against Bristol City who will probably have a new Manager in place for his first game.
The replacement should have been hired in the last International break to have given him at least 2 weeks before his first match, not 3-4 days for such a huge game.
Yet another mistake by our naive owners.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 31, 2023 8:01:25 GMT
It is a gamble, but at least it is a return to the only strategy we have had and is a long-term appointment. We have tried for him twice before, and we were always going to appoint either a previous manager or someone on the books from previous efforts - we do not have a DofF anymore to form new contacts / research. It is important that we take on board that we are in the mire on him joining us. He did not put us there. He is going to need time - even if we get relegated - we need to look at the Ipswich, Plymouths who have stuck with new coaches, built and developed. He likes to develop youngsters, that also takes time. I think it will be asking an awful lot for him to get anything out of Rotherham on Saturday. He will be asking the players to adopt a style that could not be more opposite to what they have been playing. He has not even met them yet! It is easier to adopt if we accept that we are relegation certainties and anything else is a bonus as we build and go again. Clive's piece on the guy is excellent. www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/61182 |
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Post by spanishal on Oct 31, 2023 9:27:35 GMT
I believe that the new manager has been brought in to basically start afresh from the ground up instead of the desperate short term fire fighting that people think Warnock can offer. Avoiding relegation would be a bonus but maybe the board have looked beyond this and realized that relegation may have to be a price worth paying for the long term future of QPR
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Post by salts on Oct 31, 2023 10:09:04 GMT
He'll have his work cut out to win at Rotherham. Dozzell and Colback suspended. Clarke-Salter, Fox and Cook presumably injured. Cook possibly fit though? No out and out goal scorer (no matter who is fit).
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Post by rangerray on Oct 31, 2023 11:30:19 GMT
I think Hammarby are owned by Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cifuentes has been considered by the board before but they couldn't agree terms with Hammarby for his release. Nothing has been working so perhaps it is time to roll the dice.
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Post by nomar on Oct 31, 2023 13:47:02 GMT
People saying the players will need to adopt a new style of football.
Yes, it's called attacking and possession.
Frankly, our dressing room is probably overjoyed that they are getting in a gaffer who knows how to set up a team and has more tactical ability than just hoof it long and hope.
Could be just what Willock and Chair need and if you can get them two playing to their strengths we will end up nowhere near the bottom 3.
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Post by kerrins on Oct 31, 2023 14:15:10 GMT
Que?? lol  Seriously though like many have said it is somewhat of a gamble. Anyway I think we could be safe from defeat at Rotherham....Storm Ciaran will be upon us soon and despite that newly built stadium it must have easily have one the worst drainage systems in the Championship. Two games postponed last year and one abandoned. This season one game already postponed!! All due to waterlogging |
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Post by robindubois on Nov 1, 2023 8:35:22 GMT
Any appointment is a gamble . But I cannot believe the negative and pessimistic views on this on . The fact that some have not heard of him or his team is a reflection on their knowledge not on someone who is a highly respected coach. At least give him a chance and stop the “ needs to do this by then or get on his bike comments”
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Post by nomar on Nov 8, 2023 17:30:48 GMT
Any appointment is a gamble . But I cannot believe the negative and pessimistic views on this on . The fact that some have not heard of him or his team is a reflection on their knowledge not on someone who is a highly respected coach. At least give him a chance and stop the “ needs to do this by then or get on his bike comments” If Saturday was anything to go by then I think he'll be fine. We need another striker, but the football was actually watchable and we looked like a proper team with a plan. That is already a million miles away from the utter drek that Ainsworth was serving up. It really was unwatchable and I stopped watching it online it was so damn awful. |
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Post by dan on Nov 8, 2023 23:41:19 GMT
My thoughts from the other side of the pond:
I follow the University of Memphis Tigers college program. Our (American) football team spent decades in the gutter. Finally, our university decided to think outside of the box, stopped hiring “local” or “from within” and got a guy named Justin Fuente. Yes you read that correctly. Just throw the “Ci” in front of it and the pronunciation is the same.
Within 2 years, he turn the program completely around. Sure he ended up leaving us for a better paycheck, but we got another coach by taking the same hiring approach. This time, we ended up as one of the top 10 programs in the country. We continue to win (7-2 so far this season) and have no plans on looking back.
I like this hire. I have a good feeling about it.
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Post by dan on May 5, 2024 1:04:19 GMT
*Bump*
This thread aged well for some of us, not for others.
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Post by harr on May 5, 2024 6:41:51 GMT
Yeah didn’t age well for me.
Very valid point
I thought it was a hell of a gamble at the time but totally wrong.
Been a very shrewd appointment and exceeded anything I could have asked for.
Eustace and Rowett might still have kept us up but more than happy with our choice.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 5, 2024 8:00:37 GMT
That is a great reflective read. Loved it!
My response was ok - I stand by it - but 'a relegation certainty'.
Phew! We go again in August and welcome back Portsmouth, Derby, Sheffield United - and probably Burnley, Luton and maybe Bolton.
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Post by robindubois on May 5, 2024 9:25:53 GMT
Any appointment is a gamble . But I cannot believe the negative and pessimistic views on this one . The fact that some have not heard of him or his team is a reflection on their knowledge not on someone who is a highly respected coach. At least give him a chance and stop the “ needs to do this by then or get on his bike comments” Patience is a virtue. Looking at the table finishing 18th compared to where we were headed before Marti is a miracle. Under normal circumstances finishing 18th sounds low but just look at how many clubs ended bunched around the 56 to 60 point range. What did for us was our goal difference, which got off to the worst possible start at Watford, got worse and slowly has been clawed back a goal at a time. The first job that Marti did apart from getting the players to buy in was to tighten the defence. Took time but he got there helped by JCS. In more recent games he has built on that with a few more goals especially after Andersen got half fit and Willock showed a little bit of his ability. Today we have a team , not a disjoint bunch of individuals who do not know or accept what hey are asked to do. If reflecting on this thread, with no disrespect to anyone, many voiced the opinions of the 1990's. The game has moved on and is full of young talented international coaches and this is really only the second time we have gone down that road- and Marti is miles ahead of D'Souza. We have moved into the 21st century at last. Being based overseas maybe I have an advantage of knowing different things, Marti's name and his reputation was not new to me. Neither was Ainsworth so what happened under both managers was not a surprise. Easy to say with after sight but I called both in advance. It would be interesting but pointless to reflect on some other threads where regulars including many from this thread blasted the players as useless not fit for league 2 worst team we have ever had etc. Everyone entitled to their own opinion ....but patience is a virtue and the rapid swings of opinions I can understand are born of frustration as much as belief. I look at Birmingham of League One. In the play-offs under Eustace then along comes legend Rooney followed by disaster, turned to a Warnock/QPR type appointment to try to save the day then had to bring back another former hero who did not have the time or team to save the day. A team with ex Rangers loans who we let go in favour of the worst players the club has ever had? We will probably enter next season with more hope but still could be fighting relegation of pushing for the play-offs which again will be difficult with the money rich relegated trio. While everyone can voice their opinion I just hope at least this board does not jump either way, into slanging off the team or manager and calling for changes after a slow start , or jumps to the "we are going up" and then turning if we fade away if we start well. Make the most of Marti and the team while we can. Coaches of his type are ambitious, internationally mobile and tend only to hang around a few years. Just hope we do not go back to appointing "fans favourites". So let's look forward to a good summer, a few decent signings to strengthen the squad and get going again on August 10th. My one pet hate as usual is the Window not closing to September 1st with the risk of losing someone important at the last minute after the season has started. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 5, 2024 10:03:37 GMT
"Gamble" paid off. Great appointment (and very brave)
I would have gone for Neil Warnock - That's how desperate.
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Post by robindubois on May 5, 2024 12:20:49 GMT
"Gamble" paid off. Great appointment (and very brave) I would have gone for Neil Warnock - That's how desperate. and Warnock would not have lasted the season and today we would be in League One. |
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Post by stylecouncillor on May 6, 2024 4:46:13 GMT
Came back to apologise.... what a man what a job...I didn't know who then but certainly know who now .
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