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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 15, 2022 9:08:03 GMT
footballleagueworld.co.uk/timescale-of-man-united-decision-on-qpr-and-sunderland-players-revealed/I think Laird is unlikely to stay hence the interest in Lincoln's RB -Poole. TIMESCALE OF MAN UNITED DECISION ON QPR AND SUNDERLAND PLAYERS REVEALEDPublished 31 seconds ago on 15 December 2022, 8:40By Ned Holmes Manchester United are set to make a decision on whether to recall Amad Diallo from Sunderland and Ethan Laird from QPR after the World Cup, according to Manchester Evening News sources. The pair were two of four players sent on loan to the Championship by the Old Trafford outfit – alongside Alvaro Fernandez (Preston North End) and Hannibal Mejbri (Birmingham City). All four can be recalled but while MEN has claimed that Fernandez and Hannibal have been assured they will remain at their respective second tier clubs until the end of the season, the same assurances have not been made to Amad or Laird.
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 15, 2022 9:10:25 GMT
Transfer gossip: Dykes touted for Ibrox move By West London Sport 14/12/2022 Transfer speculation involving QPR… It’s been claimed that Mick Beale wants to sign QPR striker Lyndon Dykes for Rangers. The Scottish club have inevitably been linked with a number of R’s players after Beale recently quit Loftus Road in order to take over as Rangers boss. The likes of Chris Willock have been touted for a potential move to Ibrox following Beale’s appointment. And Football League World claim Beale is interested in signing Scotland international Dykes, who moved to west London from Livingston during the summer of 2020. The website also declare that new QPR boss Neil Critchley is a “big fan” of Dykes and “would not want to lose him.” Dykes, 27, has scored six times this season and went 10 matches without a goal during Beale’s short spell at the helm. Beale was frustrated with QPR’s lack of firepower and was keen to bring in a new striker had he stayed at the club. Aston Villa are interested in QPR star Ilias Chair, it is claimed. Football Insider reckon Villa are “plotting a move” for Chair, who has been in excellent form for the R’s. The website reports that Villa have been sending scouts to Loftus Road on a regular basis. The scouts are said to be “in no doubt he has the talent to dazzle in the Premier League”. QPR currently have Tim Iroegbunam on loan from Villa. It is standard practice for scouts to watch players from their club when they are on loan elsewhere. www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-glasgow-rangers-mick-beale-lyndon-dykes-qpr-141222
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Post by Lonegunmen on Dec 15, 2022 17:23:52 GMT
I'd hardly say Chair's form was "excellent", more like "Hot & Cold".
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Post by robindubois on Dec 16, 2022 9:46:10 GMT
It's that time of year again. The rumours were bound to start now with the expected names and destinations popping up straight away.
Dykes is interesting - managers rate him because of his effort, attitude and contribution to the team but he is hardly likely to start scoring 25 goals a season - although in Scotland that may be possible with some of the teams he would play against.
Chair to Villa? No doubt about his talent but still learning and inconsistent - is that what Villa want or would he be a bench warmer and potential "one for the future". I would think Villa want someone who will hit the first team running and make an immediate impact. For Chair another season to learn and get consistent with us would probably be better than being a bit part player at Villa with at the prospect of getting loaned out in the summer if he does not make it.. I have seen other reports about the Villa scouts being at our games but that they were there to see Tim I and monitor his progress. The question for Villa is do they think Tim will continue to develop under Critchley rather than Beale - but I would not be surprised if he is recalled.
Laird is really in the situation of Tim I and Chair combined. If he gets recalled I doubt he would make it into United's match squad but could get sent out on another loan to a lower PL or top Championship team if they think he would benefit more than staying with us. Leaving him in their B team cannot be better than playing real games for us.
Willock - Beale might take the chance but I cannot see any PL teams in for him yet until he proves he can play a season without lengthy injuries. His contract situation does not put us in a strong position so he may well just run down his contract and try to avoid injury. However if he wants a good move in the summer he needs to keep showing what he can do and not put in the sort of half hearted, don't want to get injured performance that he showed against Burnley.
Surprised Seny's name has not popped up yet but as someone said there are not really any vacant PL keeper spots that he would be likely to fill.
Also likely to see Dickie and Dunne being mentioned and maybe Balogun back to Rangers - Dickie cannot be happy with lack of game time.
A bad case scenario is that we lose Dykes Laird Chair Willock Tim I and Seny - thats half a good championship team! add on a couple of the others and we are down to nothing.
If we were still top of the table or close I would be more comfortable that these guys would want to stay and the loan parent clubs would be happy for them to stay. Given our recent slide it may well be that some will look for greener pastures. Trouble now is Critchley only has 4 or 5 games to turn things round to keep everyone happy - and they are not easy games. Worst case scenario is that we lose all those players at the end of the window with no time to replace them. I doubt we have any cash to bring replacements in before letting others go although I expect we will be linked with a line of potential replacements.
Lots of click bait going to happen - sit back and wait until anything is officially announced. Meanwhile these windows are bad. The summer window creeps a month into the season and then the winter window opens not many games later. How can clubs plan and build properly. Maybe cut it back to one long window. Opens on the last day of the season and closes one week before the start of the next. Then clubs have a settled squad for the season, manager turnover and squad rebuilding will slow down and we can concentrate on games on the pitch.
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Post by rickyqpr on Dec 30, 2022 18:47:51 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 1, 2023 10:37:56 GMT
Ellis Simms has been recalled by Everton from Sunderland. I think Everton need him themselves, but an interesting recall on 31/12/22. Not a cheap loan, but would give us so much more than Roberts pound for pound.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 1, 2023 20:30:52 GMT
We need a striker to replace Dykes and another striker to partner the replacement. The club (SIR LES) needs to pull his head out of his arse and address an issue that has been here since Charlie Austin left the first time. And playing 1 up front every frigging game. At "home" that is a capital offence. So frigging defensive. Try real "attacking football" with 2 or even 3 up front hen at home. Give the fans something to excite them and keep them behind the team.
Wake the F*** up Ferdinand!!
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Post by salts on Jan 1, 2023 21:32:45 GMT
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but we need to get another decent striker in first! Hardest thing to obtain with very little money - esp. in January. Wake up Lonegunmen! Also means playing only one of Chair and Willock.
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Post by Marc on Jan 1, 2023 22:02:01 GMT
We need a striker to replace Dykes and another striker to partner the replacement. The club (SIR LES) needs to pull his head out of his arse and address an issue that has been here since Charlie Austin left the first time. And playing 1 up front every frigging game. At "home" that is a capital offence. So frigging defensive. Try real "attacking football" with 2 or even 3 up front hen at home. Give the fans something to excite them and keep them behind the team. Wake the F*** up Ferdinand!! Why are certain fans still struggling with the concept of FFP? Where do you think they're going to find a decent Championship striker with the money the club are allowed to spend? Have people not learned anything from the likes of Derby County?
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 1, 2023 22:02:13 GMT
It's clear that Dykes cannot be relied upon as a consistent goalscorer in the Championship. At best he is 8-12 goals/season which includes penalties. That would work for a mid table team, which is where we are heading, but if we want to aim higher over next few seasons, then we need to replace him or play him with another goalscorer/poacher. I recall that Dykes probably had his best form for us when playing with Austin a few seasons ago, so maybe, if we have to keep him, then we revert to 3-5-2 system. Sell one of Chair or Wilcock to fund another striker, send Armstrong on loan to L2 and maybe Kelman develops and can be used next season? Lots of deadwood to leave that should free up funds for wages on loans or cheaper purchases. All these need to go in my view, either permanently or on loan: Haamlaaien, Kakay, Thomas, Shodipo, Bonne.
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Post by harr on Jan 1, 2023 22:11:30 GMT
Well we had a bonus of 1.8 Million to spend towards a striker when the World Cup was on for Beale and Chair but knowing QPRs operators they will spend it on another midfielder. ( this was not accounted for in the ffp figures)
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 2, 2023 2:45:28 GMT
We need a striker to replace Dykes and another striker to partner the replacement. The club (SIR LES) needs to pull his head out of his arse and address an issue that has been here since Charlie Austin left the first time. And playing 1 up front every frigging game. At "home" that is a capital offence. So frigging defensive. Try real "attacking football" with 2 or even 3 up front hen at home. Give the fans something to excite them and keep them behind the team. Wake the F*** up Ferdinand!! Why are certain fans still struggling with the concept of FFP? Where do you think they're going to find a decent Championship striker with the money the club are allowed to spend? Have people not learned anything from the likes of Derby County? Why are we still arguing over FFP? Either pay the now 10 million or don't. Take it to court and settle it for once and for all. If we had paid it a few seasons back, we would not have these issues But only at QPR we have to frig around with such things.
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Post by Marc on Jan 2, 2023 8:30:05 GMT
Why are certain fans still struggling with the concept of FFP? Where do you think they're going to find a decent Championship striker with the money the club are allowed to spend? Have people not learned anything from the likes of Derby County? Why are we still arguing over FFP? Either pay the now 10 million or don't. Take it to court and settle it for once and for all. If we had paid it a few seasons back, we would not have these issues But only at QPR we have to frig around with such things. What £10m? We were fined £40m and had a transfer embargo. Any further transgressions and the punishments will be way worse! We shouldn't be arguing about FFP because it's fact. An inconvenient truth to some as all they bwant to do is slag off the board (Les Ferdinand in particular).
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 2, 2023 8:42:45 GMT
The £10m fine from previous years has nothing to do with any current FFP concerns. That’s has all been dealt with except payments are being made over the 10 years - all funded by the owners putting more money into the club each year. As a club if we stand still and continued with current squad then over 3 year period for FFP we just about survive. Therefore we can only sell before we invest, or get very lucky with players coming through youth. The Eze profit got us going through the last 3 years, and we did spend nearly half the money on Dykes, Dickie, Bonne, Willock plus loan fees and wages on premier league players over the same period would not have been cheap. That has now all gone plus the loss of income from Covid years means we are only just about surviving standing still. Of course we could just break rules again and suffer the consequences but that only works if you get promoted, after taking account of points deduction and whatever else would come our way being second time offenders, so not a route the board, as stewards of the owners company, go down unfortunately. We need to generate profit from player sales of 5-10m every 2 or 3 seasons to have any chance of investing into the playing squad. Time is running out for the club to make decent money on some of our better players due to their contract lengths, age and now form. We messed up big time with Manning and BOS who at one point could have fetched up to 10m together and we got nothing, then the pandemic which has affected all clubs, means we are now at the same point when we sold Eze but none of our players will get anywhere near what we received for Eze due to current market for Championship players now and quality.
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Post by harr on Jan 2, 2023 9:24:54 GMT
The Beale compensation is like gold dust in our current circumstances and they need to spend it wisely.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 2, 2023 10:29:52 GMT
The £10m fine from previous years has nothing to do with any current FFP concerns. That’s has all been dealt with except payments are being made over the 10 years - all funded by the owners putting more money into the club each year. As a club if we stand still and continued with current squad then over 3 year period for FFP we just about survive. Therefore we can only sell before we invest, or get very lucky with players coming through youth. The Eze profit got us going through the last 3 years, and we did spend nearly half the money on Dykes, Dickie, Bonne, Willock plus loan fees and wages on premier league players over the same period would not have been cheap. That has now all gone plus the loss of income from Covid years means we are only just about surviving standing still. Of course we could just break rules again and suffer the consequences but that only works if you get promoted, after taking account of points deduction and whatever else would come our way being second time offenders, so not a route the board, as stewards of the owners company, go down unfortunately. We need to generate profit from player sales of 5-10m every 2 or 3 seasons to have any chance of investing into the playing squad. Time is running out for the club to make decent money on some of our better players due to their contract lengths, age and now form. We messed up big time with Manning and BOS who at one point could have fetched up to 10m together and we got nothing, then the pandemic which has affected all clubs, means we are now at the same point when we sold Eze but none of our players will get anywhere near what we received for Eze due to current market for Championship players now and quality. Spot on!
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 2, 2023 20:44:52 GMT
Why are we still arguing over FFP? Either pay the now 10 million or don't. Take it to court and settle it for once and for all. If we had paid it a few seasons back, we would not have these issues But only at QPR we have to frig around with such things. What £10m? We were fined £40m and had a transfer embargo. Any further transgressions and the punishments will be way worse! We shouldn't be arguing about FFP because it's fact. An inconvenient truth to some as all they bwant to do is slag off the board (Les Ferdinand in particular). I thought the 40 million got whittled down to 10 million a few years back after discussions.
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Post by Marc on Jan 2, 2023 20:51:13 GMT
What £10m? We were fined £40m and had a transfer embargo. Any further transgressions and the punishments will be way worse! We shouldn't be arguing about FFP because it's fact. An inconvenient truth to some as all they bwant to do is slag off the board (Les Ferdinand in particular). I thought the 40 million got whittled down to 10 million a few years back after discussions. No, it was to be paid in £10m instalments.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 2, 2023 20:53:03 GMT
Thank you Marc.
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 2, 2023 21:06:33 GMT
Playing much better tonight!
Fine was £40m but £20m was converting money owed to owners (that they loaned to the club in the past) into shares so no cash out of the club. Remaining £20m is being paid over 10 years and is incremental cash going out of the club.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 4, 2023 18:03:33 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 5, 2023 19:31:26 GMT
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Post by rangersman on Jan 6, 2023 14:23:54 GMT
We need a striker, we do not need another midfielder, we must be a running joke with our love of overlooking the obvious in favor of midfielders.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 7, 2023 10:08:51 GMT
We need a striker, we do not need another midfielder, we must be a running joke with our love of overlooking the obvious in favor of midfielders. Jamal Lowe looks the most likely - but he is more of a winger than a forward. I guess much will hang on who departs. Beale has said that as his very good friend is manager of QPR, he will not be raiding his old club, but will be bringing in three players to G Rangers this week. It would be good if we could get our business done early doors, but I guess not within our control. So the mad trolley dash at the end of January awaits us.
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 9, 2023 10:33:12 GMT
We are apparently talking to Bournemouth about Seriki Dembele and Lowe (presumably either / or). Loans - both wingers by trade. But we can only have 5 loans in a matchday squad, so something may have to give.
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 9, 2023 13:30:56 GMT
With the number of loan issues, I think Richards deal has us buying him at end of season so maybe they do that deal early (but cash deferred to end of season) to free up a loan space. Send Roberts back if he can’t improve fitness and then that leaves us with 3 loans so space for another 2. Maybe send Roberts back and swap for Gelhardt?
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 9, 2023 13:30:57 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 9, 2023 14:42:47 GMT
Seems we are re-signing Jordan Hugill from Norwich. Not sure how that signing fits with the strategy. I was never a fan (sigh).
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Post by surreychad on Jan 9, 2023 15:28:01 GMT
Seems we are re-signing Jordan Hugill from Norwich. Not sure how that signing fits with the strategy. I was never a fan (sigh). I hope this isn't true ,apart from the goal on his debut he isnt better than dykes.
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Post by Marc on Jan 9, 2023 15:47:03 GMT
Seems we are re-signing Jordan Hugill from Norwich. Not sure how that signing fits with the strategy. I was never a fan (sigh). I hope this isn't true ,apart from the goal on his debut he isnt better than dykes. Scored 15 goals in his season long loan with us.
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