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Post by nomar on Aug 24, 2020 16:02:42 GMT
Hughill has signed for Norwich. Shame, I would have though they simply offered more money and have a better chance of promotion? I think his wages were way beyond what we could offer unless West Ham were paying him off. Even then, I think he'd have to have taken a drop in salary to play for us. It's a shame as I'd have loved him back, but I'm glad the club is sticking to its plan and not throwing money at players just so they can sign them and please a few entitled fans on twitter!
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 24, 2020 17:12:29 GMT
I am somewhat ambivalent about Hugill. I would have been happy for him to sign and there is no denying that he scored 15 goals last term. But how many could he have scored if he did not lean back and sky the ball? He had an awful lot of chances made by our creative / attacking midfield and I found that he frustrated me by scoring the impossible and missing the easier ones. He would not get that many chances in the Prem and so he is likely to remain a decent Championship striker. Norwich are likely to be one of the leading teams in the Championship and he will get plenty of chances, so he will repay their faith, but not necessarily the following year if they gain promotion. He was very much second choice to Wells when we had 2 strikers. Not heartbroken, just hope that Dykes proves to be a better option and if we are to have a second striker, I think someone with different attributes because Dykes and Hugill are pretty similar. But as others have said, we could not afford him, so move on.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 24, 2020 18:42:24 GMT
Yes, not too upset that Hugill's not joined us - and hadn't really been expecting it with likely wage demands.
I'm actually more excited about Dykes - I don't think he and Hugill are that similar and believe that we might even have the better man for the job.
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Post by harr on Aug 24, 2020 21:22:46 GMT
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Post by sharky on Aug 25, 2020 1:06:48 GMT
From WLS www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-ebere-eze-crystal-palace-ebere-eze-250202Palace ready to improve offer for QPR star EzeBy West London Sport 24/08/2020 Crystal Palace have indicated that they are ready to improve their offer for QPR star Ebere Eze. The Eagles have been interested in Eze for more than two years and had an approach for him rejected in January. More recently they had a £12m bid turned down by Rangers, who want £20m for the forward. Palace saw no reason to increase their offer as they were aware theirs was the only bid on the table. But with Fulham having now indicated they are ready to better Palace’s offer, the south London club seem prepared to offer more money. Eze, 22, has long been aware of Palace’s interest and would favour a move to Selhurst Park. Prior to Fulham entering the fray, the only concrete interest had been from Palace and West Ham, despite several other Premier League clubs having been linked with him. He has a year remaining on his contract but QPR hold an option to extend that deal by 12 months, meaning he is effectively under contract until 2022. Rangers quickly rejected Palace’s offer in the hope that other clubs would come in for Eze and spark a bidding war. And Fulham’s interest appears to have nudged Palace towards discussing a deal which, with add-ons, would be nearer the £20m mark. West Ham indicated last month that they were interested in signing Eze. Both the Hammers and QPR hoped any deal might include Jordan Hugill moving to Loftus Road in part-exchange. Rangers were also interested in West Ham midfielder Josh Cullen. But Hugill, who scored 15 goals while on loan with the R’s last season, opted for a move to Norwich.
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Post by sharky on Aug 25, 2020 1:17:51 GMT
From the Guardian saying we've dropped our asking price from £20m to £16m.www.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/24/arsenal-ainsley-maitland-niles-wolves-20mCrystal Palace hope to beat Fulham to QPR’s Eberechi EzeCrystal Palace are leading the race to sign Eberechi Eze from Queens Park Rangers but face competition from Fulham for the forward. Eze is one of the brightest young talents in the Championship and is attracting interest from several Premier League clubs. Although Palace remain favourites to sign the 22-year-old, they are yet to agree a deal with QPR, who have rejected a £12m bid and are determined not to sell him for less than £16m. Leeds and West Brom are monitoring the situation, and Fulham are interested following their promotion. West Ham are still in the hunt as well. David Moyes likes Eze, who scored 14 goals last season, and hopes to find funds for him. However, the Hammers, who are battling with Celtic for the Brighton centre-back Shane Duffy, need to sell before they buy. Norwich have signed Jordan Hugill from West Ham in a deal that could rise to £5m. The striker, who joined West Ham from Preston for £8m in January 2018, spent last season on loan at QPR.
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Post by sharky on Aug 25, 2020 1:48:41 GMT
BOS played vs AFC Dons and almost complete silence about him moving. Will he be staying for a while longer?!
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Post by surreychad on Aug 25, 2020 6:37:46 GMT
BOS played vs AFC Dons and almost complete silence about him moving. Will he be staying for a while longer?! I hope he has one more season with us, if he keeps the form he will give us the quality we need plus he be worth the same as Eze come the end of season. I very much doubt we will be able to keep him after the next season if he does keep the form.
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Post by harr on Aug 25, 2020 7:11:21 GMT
BOS would need to sign a new contract. Be great if we can hold onto him and Manning but guess it won’t happen .
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 25, 2020 9:22:11 GMT
From the Guardian saying we've dropped our asking price from £20m to £16m.www.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/24/arsenal-ainsley-maitland-niles-wolves-20mCrystal Palace hope to beat Fulham to QPR’s Eberechi EzeCrystal Palace are leading the race to sign Eberechi Eze from Queens Park Rangers but face competition from Fulham for the forward. Eze is one of the brightest young talents in the Championship and is attracting interest from several Premier League clubs. Although Palace remain favourites to sign the 22-year-old, they are yet to agree a deal with QPR, who have rejected a £12m bid and are determined not to sell him for less than £16m. Leeds and West Brom are monitoring the situation, and Fulham are interested following their promotion. West Ham are still in the hunt as well. David Moyes likes Eze, who scored 14 goals last season, and hopes to find funds for him. However, the Hammers, who are battling with Celtic for the Brighton centre-back Shane Duffy, need to sell before they buy. Norwich have signed Jordan Hugill from West Ham in a deal that could rise to £5m. The striker, who joined West Ham from Preston for £8m in January 2018, spent last season on loan at QPR. How would this reporter would know that - the club are holding out in the hope of an auction between a few clubs so I doubt we would tell him. Palace have along way to go to get anywhere near a deal if previous reports are correct. Some reports just say they bid 12 million but others detail that as 8 million cash upfront plus 4 million add ons. According to some reports some of the add ons apparently were extreme and included Palace qualifying for Europe this season. No way to prove any of that click bait but I can believe Palace making that sort of offer thinking we desperately need the cash so we can sign a few players. What ever deal is agreed I doubt we will ever know the full details but if Palace want 50 to 75 million for Zaha they can afford 20 million for Eze. Our potential problem is we really need this sorted before the season starts and not in the last days of the window. The answer is that the club is feeding stories to WLS who in turn syndicate the tale. Today's Dave McIntyre update is below. Now how would he know the detail that he alone provides if he was not being informed? This is all part of the club trying to get the highest price - so good luck to them. But it looks like he will go to Palace, just a question of how much.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 25, 2020 9:22:59 GMT
QPR reject another offer from Crystal Palace for Eze By David McIntyre 25/08/2020
QPR forward Ebere Eze
QPR have turned down another offer from Crystal Palace for Ebere Eze but negotiations between the two clubs are continuing.
The Eagles have been interested in Eze for more than two years and had an approach for him rejected in January.
Earlier this month they had a £12m bid turned down by Rangers, who want £20m for the forward.
Palace saw no reason to increase that as they were aware theirs was the only bid on the table.
But with Fulham having indicated they were ready to better Palace’s offer, the south London club made another approach to QPR.
Their latest proposal has been rejected too but at this stage it looks and though Eze, 22, will end up at Selhurst Park.
Prior to Fulham entering the fray, the only concrete interest had been from Palace and West Ham, despite several other Premier League clubs having been linked with him.
He has a year remaining on his contract but QPR hold an option to extend that deal by 12 months, meaning he is effectively under contract until 2022.
Rangers quickly rejected Palace’s initial offer in the hope that other clubs would come in for Eze and spark a bidding war.
And Fulham’s interest appears to have nudged Palace towards discussing a deal which, with add-ons, would be nearer the £20m mark.
Talks between Rangers and Palace were continuing on Tuesday morning.
West Ham indicated last month that they were interested in signing Eze.
Both the Hammers and QPR hoped any deal might include Jordan Hugill moving to Loftus Road in part-exchange.
Rangers were also interested in West Ham midfielder Josh Cullen.
But Hugill, who scored 15 goals while on loan with the R’s last season, opted for a move to Norwich.
QPR eye Dickie deal Meanwhile, QPR are still hoping to pull off the signing of Oxford United defender Rob Dickie.
The 24-year-old is Rangers’ first-choice signing as they look to bring in a centre-back.
Dickie has been linked with Premier League clubs but none have so far made a move for him.
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Post by surreychad on Aug 25, 2020 9:41:15 GMT
Personally I don't think we will see Eze in a QPR shirt again, this may rumble on for a few more weeks but he is going is just not known where to yet so there isnt any point playing him to then adjust the team when he does go. Might as well plan and play without him so there is consistency
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Post by harr on Aug 25, 2020 10:27:47 GMT
I think the Fulham Eze interest was just what we needed at the perfect time and be surprised if we don’t agree a deal with Palace for 16-18:million within the next week. Let’s hope we can get it sorted and get a sell on clause if we can.
Hopefully we can then pick up this defender from Oxford , our first choice, before the Prem teams come sniffing. I have no problem with Warburton offloading Leistner, he just was not consistent enough sadly. Best for both if he moves on now.
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Post by nomar on Aug 25, 2020 10:57:21 GMT
Great to see the club aren’t messing about with the Eze deal. They know what they want and they’re not going to sell him cheaply.
Surreychad, it was almost a given that Eze would leave this window, so I don’t think any QPR fans really expected to ever see him again in a QPR shirt after lockdown started.
Getting Dickie or someone similar is necessary because we need to start defending properly in matches.
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Post by rickyqpr on Aug 25, 2020 11:17:13 GMT
QPR Said No, Then Yes Maybe To Irons, Why? Submitted by nevillenixon on Tue, 25/08/2020 - 11:33 West Ham United do like a protracted transfer situation, it is one of the reasons the Press adores the club, never a dull moment and always good for a 'throw away' line. Think of some of the past seasons' transfer fiascos, Gomez, Bacca etc, so any attempted deal to bring QPR's Eze Eberechi to the London Stadium was always going to be drawn out, and thus it appears.
The proposed and desired on off move has been subject to an awful lot of media attention, who have speculated three different destinations for the talented 22 year old Eberechi, this is just what QPR wanted with London clubs Crystal Palace and newly promoted Fulham vying with West Ham for the players signature.
Initially it seemed as if Hammers had the edge over the competition based on the fact that Jordan Hugill had been on a successful loan spell at Loftus Road, it was thought he could be used as a makeweight in the deal which would have left Hammers with possibly an extra £10 Million to pay. Unfortunately as often happens in these situations, prior wage agreements can become stumbling blocks and that was the case with Jordan Hugill, his £38,000 wages were just too rich for QPR to facilitate, whereas his final destination newly relegated Norwich City, with their 'parachute' payments, were happy to stump up the cash.
It is now being suggested that QPR 'covet' Josh Cullen who enjoyed a relatively successful spell on loan at Charlton, his wages are not such an issue and he could possibly be the ideal player to use in part exchange for Eze Eberechi. Cullen is 24 years old and realistically has a horde of talented players ahead of him in the pecking order at West Ham, so a move would suit the Republic of Ireland player and the West London outfit. The clincher is that Cullen is currently only receiving £10,000 per week, which is less than 1/3 of what Hugill was receiving so a deal might yet still happen, although it is becoming increasingly obvious that the Irons are now having to pay for the 'Pelligrinophile's' profligacy' which involves having to stand by and watch teams like Villa, Watford and Leeds blow the club out of the water when it comes to bidding for players that become available.
As with many aspects of life, sometimes things have to get a lot worse before they can get better, hopefully West Ham's ill fortune and propensity for making costly mistakes has bottomed out and the club can move forward, albeit with an insanely low, bordering on non existent, transfer budget. - Edhttps://westhamfans.org/content/qpr-said-no-then-yes-maybe-irons-why
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Aug 25, 2020 11:18:25 GMT
Great to see the club aren’t messing about with the Eze deal. They know what they want and they’re not going to sell him cheaply. Surreychad, it was almost a given that Eze would leave this window, so I don’t think any QPR fans really expected to ever see him again in a QPR shirt after lockdown started. Getting Dickie or someone similar is necessary because we need to start defending properly in matches. My thoughts exactly but is one centre back enough if we get Dickie? .. Kakay coming through at right back but left back needs addressing also. Smyth given chance on wing but possibly need another which also applies to striker as we’ll surely not only play one upfront all season. Can we agree Oteh isn’t upto championship standard.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 25, 2020 12:04:27 GMT
Being picky but that doesn't mean we've dropped the asking price, £20m was the valuation we put out into the wild to deter soft bids, and £16m is closer than £8m or £12m.
Edit: this was supposed to have been posted hours ago lol.
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Post by salts on Aug 25, 2020 12:16:17 GMT
This is the current state of our squad. Needs to be 25 max. (excluding U21 players).
G: Lumley, Kelly, Dieng, Barnes - one too many? RB: Kakay, Kane - unlikely to be a new one incoming unless someone who is BETTER than either of those becomes available at affordable fee/wages. LB: Wallace, Manning, Hamalainen - one too many? CB: Barbet, Masterson, Gubbins, Leistner - at least one more needed assuming Leistner departs. Dickie maybe? CM: Cameron, Ball, Amos, Bettache - possibly one more needed as games come thick and fast this season. Carroll or Cullen maybe? Owens injured until January at earliest. AM: Eze, BOS, Chair, Thomas, Shodipo, Smyth - healthy options but if one goes, one more needed possibly. Shodipo and Smyth have much to prove this season. F: Dykes, Ramkilde, Oteh - need at least one, possibly two more. Oteh not looked good enough so far. Ramkilde young and inexperienced so may not be reliable back up at the moment.
I would expect a loan signing or two around deadline day to shore up any threadbare areas.
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Post by bowranger on Aug 25, 2020 12:20:29 GMT
On the feeding of stories and the figures being bounded around outside of what WLS are pushing, the other dimension to that is sources at the bidding clubs and their established relationships with other journos.
On our side and 'use' of WLS, it is in our interest to 1) encourage higher bidding and 2) reassure a very tetchy online fanbase that we are not going to have the piss taken out of us on the Eze sale. So we see reaffirmation of the 20m valuation and firm reporting of us turning down low offers, while being clear on the limited pool of teams concretely interested in Eze.
Other side of that, West Ham and Palace will be wanting to demonstrate they're willing to splash some cash, are after exciting players but are trying to achieve value. I dunno what Palace's in-road with the press is but believe Jacob Steinburg is the guy with all the West Ham gossip when it comes to The Guardian. So figures could be coming out on the interested clubs' side, who have more interest in say, £16m being the norm banded around rather than our £20m. Lots of weird optics coming into play and obviously we only get the reliable QPR side of the story via WLS.
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Post by salts on Aug 25, 2020 12:21:13 GMT
Does anyone know, for certain, when Gubbins' and Bettache's contracts expire? I've got everyone elses.
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Post by surreychad on Aug 25, 2020 13:02:32 GMT
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Post by scarletpimple on Aug 25, 2020 13:44:39 GMT
Seeing that derby have got away with selling their stadium to themself why can't our owners look at doing the same, just a thought.
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Post by terryb on Aug 25, 2020 14:02:57 GMT
Seeing that derby have got away with selling their stadium to themself why can't our owners look at doing the same, just a thought. What would be the point? We're not in any FFP trouble so there is no need to inflate income. I also think they are trying to keep their expebditure as low as they can.
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Post by harr on Aug 25, 2020 14:20:02 GMT
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 25, 2020 14:22:58 GMT
Changed his name to McDykes for good measure
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Post by harr on Aug 25, 2020 14:25:17 GMT
Changed his name to McDykes for good measure 😀 I guess Sharky will be a bit gutted but on a selfish side, I would rather Scotland I guess than Aus as Luongo did use to suffer with the jet lag and have to miss some key games.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Aug 25, 2020 14:31:08 GMT
Changed his name to McDykes for good measure 😀 I guess Sharky will be a bit gutted but on a selfish side, I would rather Scotland I guess than Aus as Luongo did use to suffer with the jet lag and have to miss some key games. Yes, not too much jet-lag flying back from Glasgow...
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Post by stylecouncillor on Aug 25, 2020 14:48:19 GMT
Added a million ? or devalued a million !! It is Scotland
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Post by harr on Aug 25, 2020 15:09:01 GMT
The other advantage is Scotland do not get very far in competitions so probably play less games than Australia Good point
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Post by bowranger on Aug 25, 2020 15:09:16 GMT
Weird of him not to mention that he'll be unavailable over Xmas...
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