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Post by bowranger on May 25, 2019 8:12:11 GMT
Nice one, agree with a lot of that. I have a different take on some of them.
Ingram - I feel like we've likely seen the last of him. For his own sake, he needs a new start. He had an awful start to the season, mitigated pretty heavily by being asked to play out from the back in a way neither he or the players in front of him were capable of. I feel bad for him because it was clearly a nonsense from the off.
Dieng has made his way upwards in terms of the loans he went on and did well at Dundee. Brzozowski is a longer term prospect but has signed an extension - so I'd see him as the third choice and likely to go on loan. I can't see how we, with the money situation, could justify four keepers across that range of standards. Despite Lumley's agent clearly putting his name about later last season (which I thought was pretty tactless for someone doing his first full season at this level, much as I like him. He's not *that* good yet), I don't think he's going anywhere and next season is a big one for him.
Which to me makes Ingram the most likely to go and suits everyone involved. Economically, you can't have a player like Dieng going through those loan spells to end up as third choice. There's an alright keeper in there but Ingram's confidence is in the bin. Maybe I'm being a bit misty-eyed but I feel like he is ripe for an opportunity in League One to restart his career and could be a relative bargain for the right club.
Oteh and Walker - I still think Oteh is the bigger prospect here and don't think you can draw big conclusions from his time at Walsall for the reasons laid out in that big boring reply I did on the loan thread. Oteh has played and scored at this level, at least - albeit one of them via throwing his entire body at the ball away at Burton. I think he's shown glimpses of really evolving his game too - when he got a few goes in the first team more recently, he looked fitter, less bulky and quicker - more multi-faceted.
Walker didn't end up in the first team by accident but he also looks very, very green. This isn't gospel of course but a lot of the people who go and see the youth and reserve games were shocked that it was him who popped up in the first team, as he generally isn't considered by them as one of the better kids on our books. Cynically feel like he was thrown in as evidence of us still looking internally at our assets rather than just persisting with only Hemed and Wells when they aren't going to be here next season. Or in other words, if Oteh wasn't out on loan, I think we would have seen him on the pitch instead.
Big seasons ahead for Manning, Smyth and Chair in particular I think. Warburton seems to love small, mobile but strong players like them.
I think the big lesson to take from looking at that squad is that while we may end up with some smatterings of cheaper experience being added, we really do not have the luxury of looking at many of these younger players and writing them off. Economically, they have to come good, there's no other option.
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Post by bowranger on May 25, 2019 8:54:00 GMT
Bettache just signed a pro deal with us today.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 25, 2019 11:44:41 GMT
Nice one, agree with a lot of that. I have a different take on some of them. Ingram - I feel like we've likely seen the last of him. For his own sake, he needs a new start. He had an awful start to the season, mitigated pretty heavily by being asked to play out from the back in a way neither he or the players in front of him were capable of. I feel bad for him because it was clearly a nonsense from the off. Dieng has made his way upwards in terms of the loans he went on and did well at Dundee. Brzozowski is a longer term prospect but has signed an extension - so I'd see him as the third choice and likely to go on loan. I can't see how we, with the money situation, could justify four keepers across that range of standards. Despite Lumley's agent clearly putting his name about later last season (which I thought was pretty tactless for someone doing his first full season at this level, much as I like him. He's not *that* good yet), I don't think he's going anywhere and next season is a big one for him. Which to me makes Ingram the most likely to go and suits everyone involved. Economically, you can't have a player like Dieng going through those loan spells to end up as third choice. There's an alright keeper in there but Ingram's confidence is in the bin. Maybe I'm being a bit misty-eyed but I feel like he is ripe for an opportunity in League One to restart his career and could be a relative bargain for the right club. Oteh and Walker - I still think Oteh is the bigger prospect here and don't think you can draw big conclusions from his time at Walsall for the reasons laid out in that big boring reply I did on the loan thread. Oteh has played and scored at this level, at least - albeit one of them via throwing his entire body at the ball away at Burton. I think he's shown glimpses of really evolving his game too - when he got a few goes in the first team more recently, he looked fitter, less bulky and quicker - more multi-faceted. Walker didn't end up in the first team by accident but he also looks very, very green. This isn't gospel of course but a lot of the people who go and see the youth and reserve games were shocked that it was him who popped up in the first team, as he generally isn't considered by them as one of the better kids on our books. Cynically feel like he was thrown in as evidence of us still looking internally at our assets rather than just persisting with only Hemed and Wells when they aren't going to be here next season. Or in other words, if Oteh wasn't out on loan, I think we would have seen him on the pitch instead. Big seasons ahead for Manning, Smyth and Chair in particular I think. Warburton seems to love small, mobile but strong players like them. I think the big lesson to take from looking at that squad is that while we may end up with some smatterings of cheaper experience being added, we really do not have the luxury of looking at many of these younger players and writing them off. Economically, they have to come good, there's no other option. I think the goalkeeper situation is a curious one. I think that Dieng has options and may well opt to sit on Scottish Ranger's bench rather than the QPR bench But he is 24 and needs to be playing regularly, so he may opt to move to go somewhere to be first choice. Shrewsbury are said to be interested and he has not signed the extension we offered, so we either need another 2nd choice keeper or Ingram may have to see out his last year. It may come down to simple economics, we may not get much for Ingram, and it will cost cash to replace him.
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Post by hitmanrangers on May 25, 2019 12:56:22 GMT
I can't see us loaning out many players next season because we have such a small squad. The lack of quality on the above list really scares me. We have to sell Freeman + 1 other, so Warburton has his work cut out but if he achieves a respectable league position (top of bottom half), playing good football with a clear style, and blood more youngsters, then there is hope in a few seasons time we can push on again. Chair looks exciting and an obvious replacement for Freeman. Let's hope we can get £5M for Freeman, and then I'd expect we will only be able to spend £1M of that as wages for some strong free transfers (there are lots out there) or exciting young loan stars from London Premier League clubs. We need x2 centre backs and x2 strikers and thats all I expect us to get.
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Post by Roller on May 25, 2019 14:42:01 GMT
I agree with Ricky that Ingram has to leave for his own sake. That maybe dependant on what Dieng does, but I wouldn't be concerned if Brzozowski was on the bench. We are certainly a central defender short, but should be ok at fullback if Rangel signs his deal. I've no concerns over our midfield, but await with interest as to what we do up front. I'd hate Smith to be our first choice forward. Apart from him not being very good, it forces us to a style of play that I'm not comfortable with. Hopefully Penrice has someone lined up and this time we act on it. Anything else may have to wait for the following season when we will have a little more money available.
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Post by bowranger on May 25, 2019 16:33:05 GMT
On the London Prem loans I'd have agreed until seeing just how bonkers the loan market has been this season. Looking at the upcoming play-off final and the impact and cost of the loanees involved for Villa and Derby is scary. To steal a point from LFW/Clive, the days of being able to pop down the road for a Mancienne looking for game time are almost gone.
Not sure I agree on full back. Not a knock on Rangel as he's got a role in the dressing room and being an experienced head in a team that's very light on those, but he was fit for about half of last season. He's not going to manage a full season and we've lost Wzsolek and Cousins who, while neither are full backs, both had to cover that position multiple times last season. That leaves Kakay and Furlong...if he doesn't head to CB. Bidwell is gone at left back - Manning could fit the mould considering the full backs Warbuton has liked in the past but again, not necessarily his best position. Hamalainnen I literally don't know, which is quite weird considering how long he's been on the books now.
Part of this depends on whether Furlong shifts to CB or not. He insists it's not where he sees himself but it feels like it's an ideal role for him and is a great foil to Leistner, freeing him up to focus on the destroyer role he's best at, with Furlong quicker and better on the ball. But if he does, that's another player not playing at right back.
It's all very interconnected I guess. It hinges on whether we buy a CB and/or where Warburton wants Furlong.
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Post by Roller on May 25, 2019 20:55:14 GMT
On the London Prem loans I'd have agreed until seeing just how bonkers the loan market has been this season. Looking at the upcoming play-off final and the impact and cost of the loanees involved for Villa and Derby is scary. To steal a point from LFW/Clive, the days of being able to pop down the road for a Mancienne looking for game time are almost gone. Not sure I agree on full back. Not a knock on Rangel as he's got a role in the dressing room and being an experienced head in a team that's very light on those, but he was fit for about half of last season. He's not going to manage a full season and we've lost Wzsolek and Cousins who, while neither are full backs, both had to cover that position multiple times last season. That leaves Kakay and Furlong...if he doesn't head to CB. Bidwell is gone at left back - Manning could fit the mould considering the full backs Warbuton has liked in the past but again, not necessarily his best position. Hamalainnen I literally don't know, which is quite weird considering how long he's been on the books now. Part of this depends on whether Furlong shifts to CB or not. He insists it's not where he sees himself but it feels like it's an ideal role for him and is a great foil to Leistner, freeing him up to focus on the destroyer role he's best at, with Furlong quicker and better on the ball. But if he does, that's another player not playing at right back. It's all very interconnected I guess. It hinges on whether we buy a CB and/or where Warburton wants Furlong. I understand what you are saying re: the full backs, but if Rangel signs we have three options at right back (Furlong, Rangel, Kakay) and three at left back (Manning, Rangel and Hämäläinen). In my opinion that would make us ok there, we are far weaker in other positions. This upcoming season is going to be the toughest we face, other positions must take priority.
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Post by sharky on May 26, 2019 0:36:06 GMT
As posted on the transfer thread. Dieng going? What about Rangel? www.footballinsider247.com/ibrox-exclusive-rangers-to-offer-24-year-old-deal-after-he-snubs-london-club-contract/Ibrox Exclusive: Rangers to table 24-yr-old offer after he snubs extension from London clubDate: 25th May 2019 at 7:00am Written by: Football Insider Rangers are ready to offer a contract to goalkeeper Seny Dieng after he snubbed a new Queens Park Rangers deal, Football Insider understands. The Light Blues have set their sights on the possibility of landing Dieng on a summer free after his impressive spell on loan at SPL club Dundee in the second half of this season. Ibrox sources have told Football Insider that QPR are keen to keep Dieng, 24, and have offered him a contract extension but he has yet to agree it and this has alerted suitors north and south of the border. Rangers face competition for the keeper’s signature from League One side Shrewsbury Town, Dutch club Vitesse Arnhem, French outfit Strasbourg and American team Minnesota United. Rangers are in the market for a new goalkeeper this summer with number two Wes Foderingham expected to leave after losing the number one shirt to Allan McGregor, and Jak Alnwick likely to sign permanently for an English lower league side. Senegalese Dieng joined QPR in the summer of 2016 on a free transfer but has yet to make his senior debut for the Championship club. The 6ft 4in shot-stopper has made 34 appearances this season across his loan spells at Dundee and English League Two side Stevenage.
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Post by bowranger on May 26, 2019 8:21:27 GMT
On the London Prem loans I'd have agreed until seeing just how bonkers the loan market has been this season. Looking at the upcoming play-off final and the impact and cost of the loanees involved for Villa and Derby is scary. To steal a point from LFW/Clive, the days of being able to pop down the road for a Mancienne looking for game time are almost gone. Not sure I agree on full back. Not a knock on Rangel as he's got a role in the dressing room and being an experienced head in a team that's very light on those, but he was fit for about half of last season. He's not going to manage a full season and we've lost Wzsolek and Cousins who, while neither are full backs, both had to cover that position multiple times last season. That leaves Kakay and Furlong...if he doesn't head to CB. Bidwell is gone at left back - Manning could fit the mould considering the full backs Warbuton has liked in the past but again, not necessarily his best position. Hamalainnen I literally don't know, which is quite weird considering how long he's been on the books now. Part of this depends on whether Furlong shifts to CB or not. He insists it's not where he sees himself but it feels like it's an ideal role for him and is a great foil to Leistner, freeing him up to focus on the destroyer role he's best at, with Furlong quicker and better on the ball. But if he does, that's another player not playing at right back. It's all very interconnected I guess. It hinges on whether we buy a CB and/or where Warburton wants Furlong. I understand what you are saying re: the full backs, but if Rangel signs we have three options at right back (Furlong, Rangel, Kakay) and three at left back (Manning, Rangel and Hämäläinen). In my opinion that would make us ok there, we are far weaker in other positions. This upcoming season is going to be the toughest we face, other positions must take priority. It's like a combo of economics and jenga, with the press, agents and manager opinion all thrown in! I agree, but it shifts with the season. So RB may be three, but it could also be one depending on all sorts of things. If Furlong is used at CB, it's two and if Rangel tires or can't play, which is likely on occasion, it's one. And that 'one' is Kakay who for a lot of people the jury is still out on. Crux is that we've lost bodies out of a side that already had Wzsolek and Cousins covering full back roles multiple times. Or is Hall fit enough to pair with Leistner, freeing up the option of Furlong for his preferred RB slot...but if Freeman goes, does Scowen move further up the pitch and/or does Hall sit in front of the back four again in the way that Cameron did, meaning Furlong is best qualified to do that CB slot? Or maybe not as Chair ends up slotting in and Scowen and Luongo fetch n carry? Or maybe (imagine)...Freeman stays. The permutations are so confusing! Hamalainen is realistically the only 'natural' LB on the books as far as i can tell, but has been absolutely peripheral for ages - makes you realise just how consistently available Bidwell was. As you say, it's a very tough old season ahead. I imagine a lot of what we do will be determined by who's sold first.
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Post by Roller on May 26, 2019 9:20:56 GMT
It's like a combo of economics and jenga, with the press, agents and manager opinion all thrown in! I agree, but it shifts with the season. So RB may be three, but it could also be one depending on all sorts of things. If Furlong is used at CB, it's two and if Rangel tires or can't play, which is likely on occasion, it's one. And that 'one' is Kakay who for a lot of people the jury is still out on. Crux is that we've lost bodies out of a side that already had Wzsolek and Cousins covering full back roles multiple times. Or is Hall fit enough to pair with Leistner, freeing up the option of Furlong for his preferred RB slot...but if Freeman goes, does Scowen move further up the pitch and/or does Hall sit in front of the back four again in the way that Cameron did, meaning Furlong is best qualified to do that CB slot? Or maybe not as Chair ends up slotting in and Scowen and Luongo fetch n carry? Or maybe (imagine)...Freeman stays. The permutations are so confusing! Hamalainen is realistically the only 'natural' LB on the books as far as i can tell, but has been absolutely peripheral for ages - makes you realise just how consistently available Bidwell was. As you say, it's a very tough old season ahead. I imagine a lot of what we do will be determined by who's sold first. I think we are going to need to be very flexible this season. Furlong will be required to play at both fullback and centre back during the season (hopefully not at the same time!). Manning will probably fill a variety of positions too. It is not ideal, but financially this is going to be our most testing season and more sacrifices will have to be made.
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Post by hitmanrangers on May 26, 2019 10:25:11 GMT
This is how I see us lining up next season:
Lumley (but could be sold)
Furlong, New CB, Leister, Manning Scowen, Luongo BOS, Eze, Chair New STR
I think Warburton has tended to favour the 4-2-3-1 formation at his previous clubs. Then we need 2 or 3 more signings to fill the bench/squad, definitely another LB, CB, STR
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Post by bowranger on May 26, 2019 17:57:53 GMT
It's like a combo of economics and jenga, with the press, agents and manager opinion all thrown in! I agree, but it shifts with the season. So RB may be three, but it could also be one depending on all sorts of things. If Furlong is used at CB, it's two and if Rangel tires or can't play, which is likely on occasion, it's one. And that 'one' is Kakay who for a lot of people the jury is still out on. Crux is that we've lost bodies out of a side that already had Wzsolek and Cousins covering full back roles multiple times. Or is Hall fit enough to pair with Leistner, freeing up the option of Furlong for his preferred RB slot...but if Freeman goes, does Scowen move further up the pitch and/or does Hall sit in front of the back four again in the way that Cameron did, meaning Furlong is best qualified to do that CB slot? Or maybe not as Chair ends up slotting in and Scowen and Luongo fetch n carry? Or maybe (imagine)...Freeman stays. The permutations are so confusing! Hamalainen is realistically the only 'natural' LB on the books as far as i can tell, but has been absolutely peripheral for ages - makes you realise just how consistently available Bidwell was. As you say, it's a very tough old season ahead. I imagine a lot of what we do will be determined by who's sold first. I think we are going to need to be very flexible this season. Furlong will be required to play at both fullback and centre back during the season (hopefully not at the same time!). Manning will probably fill a variety of positions too. It is not ideal, but financially this is going to be our most testing season and more sacrifices will have to be made. Yup, I think you're right. Going to be very much make do and mend.
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Post by terryb on May 26, 2019 19:13:09 GMT
I've only just caught up on this thread after the recent postings!
I was expecting Dieng to be our numnber one this season, but it would appear doubtful that he will still be with the club. I like Lumley & wanted him in the side at the start of last season, but (using that word again!) I don' think that he improved too much as the season developed.
If Dieng does leave, I feel that we might be in the market for a 'keeper even though this is by no means a priority position for us. However, I've seen two play off finals this weekend & at least three of the goalkeepers looked more dominant than Joe. Day at Newport in particular looked good & is likely to be available at a reasonable price.
Moving on to our defence, I think we are short of numbers. Furlong, Kakay, Rangel (?), Leistner, Hall, Phillips (I know nothing about him) & Manning (left back is his best position) look to me to need some help! Is the Blackpool defender we were associated with last year still available? Steve can't turn him down now!
On the assumption that we play 4-2-3-1, Luongo & Scowen are more than good enough for the two central positions, but where is any cover for them apart from Hall? I think we need to give them some competition for their places.
I have no problem with the three in front of them! BOS, Symth, Eze, Chair & Shodipo may be lacking in experience & age, but they will offer us some skill, pace & directness that we will need.
Now to the main problem area! I don't really see either Smith or Oteh holding the ball up well enough to play as a lone forward. In fact, I think Wheeler may be more adept to that role! We need at least two new players for our attacking positions although I offer no names for consideration as to who we should target! Hopefully Warburton, Ferdinand, Eustace & Penrice will know who is right & afordable for us!
In summary, that leaves me wanting a goalkeeper, full back, central defender, midfielder & two forwards for the price of what we manage to sell Freeman for!
That's not much to ask for & what could be easier?
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Post by surreychad on May 27, 2019 9:00:13 GMT
Some great posts, it will be interesting to see how this thread develops over the summer as we lose some players and hopefully bring some in.
On the point of loans, aren't there new rules coming in about how many players you can have out on loan this coming in this season? I wonder if that will make it harder for us to get good players or will it drive up loan fees?
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Post by rickyqpr on May 27, 2019 9:57:06 GMT
Interesting that Dieng was not in the Dundee United squad for the play-offs. Presumably his loan had expired - but strange that United did not negotiate for a date through the play-offs as they have been in trouble all season. The game went to penalties and Dundee United lost 2-0.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 27, 2019 12:49:29 GMT
Interesting that quite a few of the play-off players are out of contract this Summer. Presumably, waiting to see which league they are playing in before accepting a new deal. Butler (25 years old) playing for Newport had a good game and put in some fine crosses from left back. He may get closed down quicker 2 divisions higher, but would be a decent gamble. Seems he has played his football in the West Country / Wales so London cost of living may not be that attractive to him and I guess that other more attractive options will probably be available. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Butler_(footballer)
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Post by sharky on May 27, 2019 14:33:41 GMT
Interesting that Dieng was not in the Dundee United squad for the play-offs. Presumably his loan had expired - but strange that United did not negotiate for a date through the play-offs as they have been in trouble all season. The game went to penalties and Dundee United lost 2-0. Hey Ricky, Dieng was loaned to Dundee FC not Dundee United
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Post by rickyqpr on May 27, 2019 14:51:56 GMT
Interesting that Dieng was not in the Dundee United squad for the play-offs. Presumably his loan had expired - but strange that United did not negotiate for a date through the play-offs as they have been in trouble all season. The game went to penalties and Dundee United lost 2-0. Hey Ricky, Dieng was loaned to Dundee FC not Dundee United Quite right - that would more than explain it! Thanks Sharky!
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Post by rickyqpr on May 30, 2019 7:19:42 GMT
Nice one, agree with a lot of that. I have a different take on some of them. Ingram - I feel like we've likely seen the last of him. For his own sake, he needs a new start. He had an awful start to the season, mitigated pretty heavily by being asked to play out from the back in a way neither he or the players in front of him were capable of. I feel bad for him because it was clearly a nonsense from the off. Dieng has made his way upwards in terms of the loans he went on and did well at Dundee. Brzozowski is a longer term prospect but has signed an extension - so I'd see him as the third choice and likely to go on loan. I can't see how we, with the money situation, could justify four keepers across that range of standards. Despite Lumley's agent clearly putting his name about later last season (which I thought was pretty tactless for someone doing his first full season at this level, much as I like him. He's not *that* good yet), I don't think he's going anywhere and next season is a big one for him. Which to me makes Ingram the most likely to go and suits everyone involved. Economically, you can't have a player like Dieng going through those loan spells to end up as third choice. There's an alright keeper in there but Ingram's confidence is in the bin. Maybe I'm being a bit misty-eyed but I feel like he is ripe for an opportunity in League One to restart his career and could be a relative bargain for the right club. Oteh and Walker - I still think Oteh is the bigger prospect here and don't think you can draw big conclusions from his time at Walsall for the reasons laid out in that big boring reply I did on the loan thread. Oteh has played and scored at this level, at least - albeit one of them via throwing his entire body at the ball away at Burton. I think he's shown glimpses of really evolving his game too - when he got a few goes in the first team more recently, he looked fitter, less bulky and quicker - more multi-faceted. Walker didn't end up in the first team by accident but he also looks very, very green. This isn't gospel of course but a lot of the people who go and see the youth and reserve games were shocked that it was him who popped up in the first team, as he generally isn't considered by them as one of the better kids on our books. Cynically feel like he was thrown in as evidence of us still looking internally at our assets rather than just persisting with only Hemed and Wells when they aren't going to be here next season. Or in other words, if Oteh wasn't out on loan, I think we would have seen him on the pitch instead. Big seasons ahead for Manning, Smyth and Chair in particular I think. Warburton seems to love small, mobile but strong players like them. I think the big lesson to take from looking at that squad is that while we may end up with some smatterings of cheaper experience being added, we really do not have the luxury of looking at many of these younger players and writing them off. Economically, they have to come good, there's no other option. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/liam-kelly-target-mark-warburton-16220171We are linked with Liam Kelly (Livingstone) 'a keeper who is comfortable with the ball at his feet'. Suggests that we are about to lose 2 from Lumley, Dieng and Ingram.
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Post by surreychad on May 30, 2019 15:38:19 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jun 4, 2019 15:29:21 GMT
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Post by sharky on Jun 6, 2019 13:42:01 GMT
From the Offie. Another youngster signed up for another season. www.qpr.co.uk/news/under-23s-news/youngster-deshane-dalling-extends-qpr-contract/Youngster Deshane Dalling extends QPR contractGeorge Jones @qpr U23S WINGER Deshane Dalling is eyeing a big season in W12 after signing a one-year contract extension with QPR earlier this week. The pacey wide-man – who joined Rangers from Huddersfield Town midway through the 2017/18 season – has missed the last few months with an MCL (Medial Collateral Ligament) injury. But with full fitness now in sight, he says that he is delighted to have committed his future to the R’s until the summer of 2020. “I’m very happy to sign,” he said. “I’ve been through a lot with my MCL injury but I’m very happy to be back on track and getting myself ready for next season. “It was a lot to take in when I got injured but I believed in myself, worked hard in the gym, focussed on coming back even fitter and even stronger and now I’m raring to go.” Dalling paid special thanks to Academy Physiotherapist Josh Adebayo for helping him during his recovery. The 20-year-old said: “Josh helped me a lot, not just with the injury but helped me and guided me in the right ways; friends and family, everyone at the club has helped to keep me positive. I can’t wait to start the new season now.” Once pre-season does get started, Dalling, like all of the club’s young players, will be keen to impress new manager Mark Warburton. He said: “As soon as we come back in, I want to show the manager ‘this is what I can do’. I want to get around his squad and work as hard as I possibly can.
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Post by sharky on Jun 7, 2019 11:46:53 GMT
Walker commits for another year www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/young-striker-signs-qpr-contract-extension/Young striker signs QPR contract extensionGeorge Jones @qpr STRIKER Lewis Walker has committed his future to QPR by signing a one-year contract extension. The forward – son of former Nottingham Forest defender Des Walker – joined Rangers in November 2018 after leaving Derby County. He made good strides in the R’s U23s squad last season and, in April, he was handed his senior debut by then caretaker boss John Eustace, who brought him off the bench during the 4-0 victory over Swansea City. Hopefully I can carry on where I left off. LEWIS WALKERWalker started QPR’s final home match of the season against Forest and now he is hoping to make more progress. “I’m really excited,” the 21-year-old said. “I’m going into my first pre-season here and it is going to be hard but I’m excited to get it underway and then for the season to start. “I came as an U23s player and by the end of the season I had got myself into the first-team bracket, so that was a big positive for me and hopefully I can carry on where I left off.” Walker’s older brother Tyler played under QPR manager Mark Warburton at Nottingham Forest and he revealed that the pair have spoken about Rangers’ new boss. He said: “He gave Tyler a good opportunity at Forest and he said as long as you work hard then he’ll warm to you. “Everyone knows that he likes a youngster playing for him, so I’ve got to try and force myself in. There are quite a few of us youngsters that have got a lot of potential. Hopefully he can bring the best out of us.”
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Post by rickyqpr on Jun 9, 2019 9:39:18 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jun 11, 2019 18:30:39 GMT
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Post by surreychad on Jun 11, 2019 20:47:09 GMT
I am ok with that. By what I have read Dieng is very promising, I would assume that next year we sell Lumley or Kelly, move dieng to No2 and push the other young keeper up the pecking order.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jun 14, 2019 9:15:28 GMT
As much as Dieng is an interesting prospect as someone else said in the thread at 24 he needs to find a somewhere where he's no1 and us being linked to Kelly doesn't suggest it at QPR. I'm glad we're going to get Warburton some players he knows in Wallace and we've had plenty of older LB over the year but this year will be about the quality of loanee we bring in. They need to be cheap and hungry so I suspect younger than the last few years and I suspect an older head ball playing CB will be needed in Warburtons system coz (sorry England fans) we're going to play it out from the back this year if he stays true to form
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Post by surreychad on Jun 14, 2019 14:13:52 GMT
The squad as it stands
Goalkeepers
1. Ingram 13. Lumley 45. Brzozowski 00. Dieng (but out of contract in July) ?? . Kelly.
Defenders
2. Furlong 4. Hall 24. Kakay 28. Hamalainen 29 .Phillips 37. Leistner
Midfielders 6. Goss 7. Freeman - Gone to highest bidder 10. Eze 11. Scowen 14. Manning 19. Chair 21. Luongo 44. Bettache
Wingers / Wide Players 20. Osayi-Samuel 27. Shadipo 38. Smyth 43. Dalling
Strikers 17. Smith (off to Millwall?) 18. Oteh 25. Wheeler 34. Walker
Still think this is the starting 11 as it stands
Lumley Fulong Leinster Hall Rangel Manning Luongo Scowen Osayi Eze Smith
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Post by eusebio13 on Jun 14, 2019 14:41:13 GMT
Always hard to judge a player from youtube but he seems a little small, especially compared to Lumley but some penalty saves in there
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Post by rickyqpr on Jun 15, 2019 14:10:45 GMT
Goalkeepers
1. Ingram 13. Lumley 45. Brzozowski 26. Dieng (but out of contract in July) ?? . Kelly.
Defenders
2. Furlong Wallace 4. Hall 24. Kakay 28. Hamalainen 29 .Phillips 37. Leistner
Midfielders 6. Goss 7. Freeman 10. Eze 11. Scowen 14. Manning 19. Chair 21. Luongo 44. Bettache
Wingers / Wide Players 20. Osayi-Samuel 27. Shadipo 38. Smyth 43. Dalling
Strikers 17. Smith 18. Oteh 25. Wheeler 34. Walker
Just added Wallace. The player that has to be the biggest enigma on our list has to be Goss. Ex Manchester United, supposed to be the next Carrick, hardly ever played for us, never mentioned in dispatches, unlikely to figure next season - but no takers on his wages. Given the number 6 shirt last season suggesting he had a bigger part to play...but no. If you were Goss, surely you would want out from QPR just to be playing for a team who want you?
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