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Post by bowranger on Nov 5, 2015 12:38:45 GMT
Right, so Ramsey has gone for better or worse and Warnock is on an interim basis.
Who do you want in? Who do you think we'll get?
Don't think either would come but for where we're at, I'd quite like Kenny Jackett. Or maybe Brian MacDermott.
I am guessing we'll either get some kind of Derry, Ferdinand and Warnock triumvirate of some sorts. Or Sherwood. I desperately don't want Tactical Tim.
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Post by sharky on Nov 5, 2015 12:48:13 GMT
With fans turning on you within weeks of joining, not being given time to get your style of play trained into the players before the fans and the owners turn on you we'll only attract either a desperate manager or a poor one I'm afraid!
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 12:55:31 GMT
I dont think Brendan Rodgers would come here? 44 win % over 317 games. We should nick Clement or Bournemouths Eddie Howe  Nigel Pearson is a bit of a nutter but you cant knock what he achieved at Leicester so knows this League and Promotion. Pearson 43 win % over 405 games Nigel Adkins at Sheff Utd knows the Leagues, has a 48 win % over 539 games Probably Tony F will go with someone like Laudrup ? With a 45 win % over 357 games I get the feeling we will be sticking with Neil , with Derry or one other until May though and that suits me. However NW said he didnt want it full time .? Other outsiders, maybe they might consider Holloway 36 win % 871 matches, his average took a battering at Millwall. Anyone but Sherwood. |
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Post by nomar on Nov 5, 2015 12:56:36 GMT
Next manager is largely irrelevant as long as the same people stay in control of the club.
But I think the rebuild phase has long gone for this club so they may as well get a big name and do all the crapola they've done before.
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Post by kingofbornholm on Nov 5, 2015 12:59:24 GMT
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 13:07:51 GMT
Go west London , have a story saying we are after Ollie
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 13:11:57 GMT
Go west London , have a story saying we are after Ollie Some latest odds today 2/1 – Tim Sherwood 3/1 – Neil Warnock 12/1 – Glenn Hoddle 16/1 – Michael Laudrup 16/1 – Uwe Rosler 16/1 – Malky Mackay 16/1 Les Ferdinand Must say If we appoint Sherwood, I will feel no different than in May when we appointed CR. Not the right man. |
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Post by Marc on Nov 5, 2015 13:15:12 GMT
Laudrup & Pearson have baggage, we have enough of our own
Rodgers has tasted Champions League, he's not going to even consider dropping down to little old us.
Sherwood was moaning that the players signed by Villa in the summer weren't his choice so I doubt he'd want to go through the same again with us and would probably rice himself out of the job anyway.
And that's the other thing, I get the feeling that whoever we get will have to do the job on sensible wages so that would rule out most of the experienced/accomplished candidates.
End of the day, I'd be happy to keep Warnock until at least the new year and it's nice to have someone like him available to take charge from the off.
If I have to give names of who I'd like, I'd say Jackett would be a good fit and I'd take Ollie back in a heartbeat.
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 13:20:18 GMT
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Post by kilburnhoop on Nov 5, 2015 13:25:13 GMT
Laudrup & Pearson have baggage, we have enough of our own Rodgers has tasted Champions League, he's not going to even consider dropping down to little old us. Sherwood was moaning that the players signed by Villa in the summer weren't his choice so I doubt he'd want to go through the same again with us and would probably rice himself out of the job anyway. And that's the other thing, I get the feeling that whoever we get will have to do the job on sensible wages so that would rule out most of the experienced/accomplished candidates. End of the day, I'd be happy to keep Warnock until at least the new year and it's nice to have someone like him available to take charge from the off. If I have to give names of who I'd like, I'd say Jackett would be a good fit and I'd take Ollie back in a heartbeat. Fabs, you forgot to add whoever comes in has to get promotion!. They will after all be inheriting the best squad outside the Prem!. Promotion should be nailed on now along with at least another 20 clean sheets  |
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Post by bowranger on Nov 5, 2015 13:27:28 GMT
Next manager is largely irrelevant as long as the same people stay in control of the club. But I think the rebuild phase has long gone for this club so they may as well get a big name and do all the crapola they've done before. Yeah agree with that. Worrying stuff. Still feel like Pearson wouldn't work, purely because I agree with others that you can't knock his record at Leicester but it took him a long time (in QPR terms) to achieve all of that. He only got Leicester into the top 6 for the first time during his second spell, having never achieved that feat in his first 18 months at the club. At the end of that season they finished outside of the play-off places. He then didn't get promoted the season after, finally achieving it the season after that. There is absolutely no way we'd have kept him at the club if that was us. Personally, feel like he's a nasty piece of work and wouldn't want him here anyway. Don't reckon Rodgers would touch us with an absolute barge pole, well above us. Jackett has some connections to the club but Wolves are relatively well-ran and we're a basket case in those terms. Don't want Sherwood but his ego could talk his way into the job after money apparently being an issue last time. You never know with Warnock as he is so wily. He may have come in purely with a view to taking on the job full-time for all I know. Derry didn't seem to set the world alight at Notts County but according to other friends, that's a club no-one can really succeed at, but I don't know enough about that. Holloway is a fantastic man-manager and it'd press my romance buttons to see him back but I can't see it. Oh I don't bloody know. |
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Post by bowranger on Nov 5, 2015 13:28:27 GMT
Oh god can you imagine McLeish at QPR? Even if he was successful, it'd make those grindy 1-0 wins under Redknapp in this division look like champagne football. |
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 13:37:06 GMT
Oh god can you imagine McLeish at QPR? Even if he was successful, it'd make those grindy 1-0 wins under Redknapp in this division look like champagne football. No I cant or do I want to imagine that, like Sherwood, hope we stay away from Pearce, Irvine and Powell too. Not for me. |
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Post by bowranger on Nov 5, 2015 13:45:11 GMT
Oh god can you imagine McLeish at QPR? Even if he was successful, it'd make those grindy 1-0 wins under Redknapp in this division look like champagne football. No I cant or do I want to imagine that, like Sherwood, hope we stay away from Pearce, Irvine and Powell too. Not for me. Definitely. I'm scared of Pearce. Powell seems to get hired at struggling clubs and doesn't seem to achieve significant improvements for me to think he'd fit a Championship promotion remit. Don't know much about Irvine. |
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Post by Marc on Nov 5, 2015 13:59:06 GMT
Laudrup & Pearson have baggage, we have enough of our own Rodgers has tasted Champions League, he's not going to even consider dropping down to little old us. Sherwood was moaning that the players signed by Villa in the summer weren't his choice so I doubt he'd want to go through the same again with us and would probably rice himself out of the job anyway. And that's the other thing, I get the feeling that whoever we get will have to do the job on sensible wages so that would rule out most of the experienced/accomplished candidates. End of the day, I'd be happy to keep Warnock until at least the new year and it's nice to have someone like him available to take charge from the off. If I have to give names of who I'd like, I'd say Jackett would be a good fit and I'd take Ollie back in a heartbeat. Fabs, you forgot to add whoever comes in has to get promotion!. They will after all be inheriting the best squad outside the Prem!. Promotion should be nailed on now along with at least another 20 clean sheets I know it's what the club wants but it's not a priority for me. |
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Post by nomar on Nov 5, 2015 14:34:29 GMT
Holloway would crawl over broken glass to come back and manage QPR.
However, if you thought we were bad defensively under Ramsey........
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 5, 2015 15:03:39 GMT
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 5, 2015 15:33:26 GMT
Odds just now on Skybet.
RED: NO
BLACK: MAYBE
GREY: ermm....
Tim Sherwood: 1/1
Neil Warnock: 3/1
Glenn Hoddle 12/1
Ian Holloway: 12/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 14/1
Les Ferdinand: 16/1
Uwe Rosler: 16/1
Michael Laudrup: 16/1
Lee Clark: 20/1
Nigel Pearson: 20/1
Nigel Adkins: 20/1
Shaun Derry: 20/1 (maybe assistant to Warnock)
Brian McDermott: 20/1
Martin Jol: 20/1
Gus Poyet: 20/1
Paolo Di Canio: 25/1
Paul Dickov: 25/1
Alan Irvine: 25/1
Alex McLeish: 25/1
Danny Wilson: 25/1
David Flitcroft: 25/1
Micky Adams: 33/1
Paul Ince: 33/1
Nigel Clough: 33/1
Steve Lomas: 33/1
John Carver: 33/1
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Post by Dufster on Nov 5, 2015 15:38:52 GMT
I'm ok with Warnock at the Helm....but Glen Hoddle 1st then Ollie would be my picks from that bunch!
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 15:51:31 GMT
Odds just now on Skybet.
RED: NO
BLACK: MAYBE
GREY: ermm....
Tim Sherwood: 1/1
Neil Warnock: 3/1
Glenn Hoddle 12/1
Ian Holloway: 12/1
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 14/1
Les Ferdinand: 16/1
Uwe Rosler: 16/1
Michael Laudrup: 16/1
Lee Clark: 20/1
Nigel Pearson: 20/1
Nigel Adkins: 20/1
Shaun Derry: 20/1 (maybe assistant to Warnock)
Brian McDermott: 20/1
Martin Jol: 20/1
Gus Poyet: 20/1
Paolo Di Canio: 25/1
Paul Dickov: 25/1
Alan Irvine: 25/1 Alex McLeish: 25/1
Danny Wilson: 25/1
David Flitcroft: 25/1
Micky Adams: 33/1
Paul Ince: 33/1
Nigel Clough: 33/1
Steve Lomas: 33/1
John Carver: 33/1HOLLOWAY, PEARSON , ADKINS , WARNOCK , LAUDRUP , LAMBERT would probably be my favourites from that bunch. POYET, McDERMOTT may be ok. |
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Post by qprtobefrank on Nov 5, 2015 16:03:12 GMT
I would much prefer to see Gareth Ainsworth with Shaun Derry. Maybe see if we can get Birch back too (Steve Gallen already there).
BUT THEN sell Austin, Fer, Sandro, maybe Phillips and go back to Plan A !!
Regularly play the likes of Hall, Luongo, Chery, JET, Gladwin, Doughty, Faurlin, Polter also Mackie & Robinson (when fit) and give Kpekawa, Furlong, Harriman, Blackwood & Grego-Cox etc. chances to prove they are at least Championship level performers.
Therefore accepting that mid table mediocrity, with a possible flirtation with the play-offs, is a decent season.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 5, 2015 16:11:40 GMT
I'd say it's Warnock's job to lose (assuming he wants it; which I assume he really does)
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Post by dorsetqpr on Nov 5, 2015 16:14:48 GMT
I never wanted Warnock to go in the first place. Think he deserved a season in the top flight for getting us there on a budget. Sadly i think our club has a stigma attached to it now, that it's easy money to play for us. Excuse my language, but i think we need someone who's bit of a c**t to give this squad a huge kick up the arse. Pearson would be ideal for this, yes he's a nutter, but he wouldn't take no crap from anybody and could do well with a small budget.(warnock still my 1st choice though)
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Post by bp on Nov 5, 2015 16:17:30 GMT
Of choice I wouldn't pick any of that list.
We have time to really go out now and cherry pick exactly who we want.
I know Mourinho or Wenger are not on our list and any Prem manager is not going to step down but there are half a dozen at least top flight managers out there that I think we could interest given that we do show some kind of real plan for the future.
I know we are not one of the big boys but we are a name that is known everywhere with past and recent good history that will tempt a top level coach who wants to come over here.
With all due respect to all the above list, they would come in here with about 2 games to show things have changed, bar one name on that list.
We need a coach/manager who has that extra bit of tactical know how and honestly do any of the above stand out as that?
So please Rs dont jump in feet first with the first guy who sits in front of you and talks about bringing youth thru quickly and buying young talent to nuture and sell on at a profit. I can sit in front of you and tell you that old BS.
Look all over Europe now and find a young savvy coach who just might do a Wenger for us.
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Post by harr on Nov 5, 2015 16:24:05 GMT
Of choice I wouldn't pick any of that list. We have time to really go out now and cherry pick exactly who we want. I know Mourinho or Wenger are not on our list and any Prem manager is not going to step down but there are half a dozen at least top flight managers out there that I think we could interest given that we do show some kind of real plan for the future. I know we are not one of the big boys but we are a name that is known everywhere with past and recent good history that will tempt a top level coach who wants to come over here. With all due respect to all the above list, they would come in here with about 2 games to show things have changed, bar one name on that list. We need a coach/manager who has that extra bit of tactical know how and honestly do any of the above stand out as that? So please Rs dont jump in feet first with the first guy who sits in front of you and talks about bringing youth thru quickly and buying young talent to nuture and sell on at a profit. I can sit in front of you and tell you that old BS. Look all over Europe now and find a young savvy coach who just might do a Wenger for us. (Look all over Europe now and find a young savvy coach who just might do a Wenger for us) Does this not come with a concern though that they probably have no Championship or English League experience. This is a very tough league to get out of. Quite a lot of European Managers fail in it? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:00:51 GMT
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Post by bp on Nov 5, 2015 17:06:50 GMT
(Look all over Europe now and find a young savvy coach who just might do a Wenger for us) Does this not come with a concern though that they probably have no Championship or English League experience. This is a very tough league to get out of. Quite a lot of European Managers fail in it? Soton found Pochettino and less so much of a surprise Koeman. |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 5, 2015 17:32:57 GMT
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Post by terryb on Nov 5, 2015 17:49:15 GMT
This would be the best option by a mile. Would TF be prepared to pay compensation though? This doubt would apply to all managers currently employed. Way down on the list would be Holloway & Sherwood. I don't particulary like Nigel Pearson, but ability wise he would appear to be the best option of those unemployed. |
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Post by northolt on Nov 5, 2015 17:59:04 GMT
I hate to say but dont think it matters its the people who appoint the managers we have a huge problem with !
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