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Post by Roller on Feb 21, 2014 7:52:19 GMT
Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes
It's a big few weeks for QPR. Time for Harry and the boys to stand up and be counted. As owners we have done all that was asked.
Frustrated? Annoyed? Stating minimum acceptable performance? or simply encouraging?
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 8:00:06 GMT
Making sure if things go wrong, that the blame goes entirely away from "TONY" - That's our man  |
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 8:04:06 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 8:24:38 GMT
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Post by alfaranger on Feb 21, 2014 10:40:07 GMT
Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes
It's a big few weeks for QPR. Time for Harry and the boys to stand up and be counted. As owners we have done all that was asked.Frustrated? Annoyed? Stating minimum acceptable performance? or simply encouraging? I don't know how much you can read into just a few words, depends on your perspective I suppose (this is not always true as the PPI claims guy who rang this morning found out - only 2 words and I don't think he misunderstood). Is it though the first time that TF has put ' Harry' and the boys? |
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Post by Bushman on Feb 21, 2014 11:27:51 GMT
Even Fernandes knows what free fall is.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 11:41:23 GMT
Is it though the first time that TF has put 'Harry' and the boys? I probably could find TF on "Neil and the boys" and then "Mark and the boys" |
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Post by blueeyedcptcook on Feb 21, 2014 11:52:48 GMT
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Post by sharky on Feb 21, 2014 17:19:06 GMT
Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes
It's a big few weeks for QPR. Time for Harry and the boys to stand up and be counted. As owners we have done all that was asked.Frustrated? Annoyed? Stating minimum acceptable performance? or simply encouraging? Telling like it is. Exactly what the majority of the fans are saying! Certainly not deflecting blame. If I had spent the money he has, I would have said something much more stern!! |
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Post by terryb on Feb 21, 2014 17:47:22 GMT
I feel that he is saying that we signed the players that Redknapp wanted & if that isn't good enough it is his responsibility.
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Post by padstow on Feb 21, 2014 19:08:48 GMT
He said pretty much the same thing to the Caterham F1 team a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by Bushman on Feb 21, 2014 19:14:39 GMT
He said pretty much the same thing to the Caterham F1 team a couple of weeks ago. "My message to the 250 people here [at the factory] is we have to go for it this year," Fernandes said during an event at Caterham's Leafield base. "This is it - the final chance. "We've given you the best infrastructure, the best potential drivers, but it is now down to all of you to go and do it." Fernandes made it clear that there was not a specific target that Caterham needed to reach this year beyond at least being able to compete. "If we're at the back I don't think I'm going to carry on," he explained. |
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Post by corndog on Feb 21, 2014 20:48:39 GMT
I feel that he is saying that we signed the players that Redknapp wanted & if that isn't good enough it is his responsibility. I agree completely, I believe TF signed a couple people for himself(or at least agreed with Harry) like Austin, Phillips and a couple of the young players, which is why he signed them for multiple years. But most of these players have Harry's handwriting all over them. A good percentage of our team has already played for Harry in the past. I also believe it is why many of them are only signed until the end of the season, TF gave Harry what he wanted for this season, but wasn't going to handicap the future for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 22:10:53 GMT
So its ok to blame when things go wrong?
But tf sanctioned all deals....with ALL managers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 22:53:21 GMT
I dont believe managers are in full control like they used to be, if Redknapp asks for a player and the owners say all good then the manager gets that player, so even though a player is a manager's pick it is the club who do the deal in terms of money paid and length of contract, if a owner does not sanction the deal, manager has two choices resign or get on with his job, its a shared responsibility for me. When will TF learn that he dont need the bearded wonder, but a football man as his ceo, I'm sure there are many a ex footballer out there who could do a better job than beard does, someone who can tell him yay or nay, instead of i aint got a didgerridoo.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 23:06:21 GMT
All I know it sounded to me like TONY was beginning to think things might not work out...and he wants to prepare the ground work: NOT MY FAULT
I wonder if will be a End of year Dinner if not successful...
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Post by sharky on Feb 21, 2014 23:39:11 GMT
All I know it sounded to me like TONY was beginning to think things might not work out...and he wants to prepare the ground work: NOT MY FAULT I wonder if will be a End of year Dinner if not successful... Doesn't sound like that at all to me. He's just stating the bleeding obvious. He's done his bit by getting players in, now it's up to the Manager and the players to do their bit and get the results. We are over analysing an obvious comment! |
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 21, 2014 23:49:37 GMT
Yes But why did he say it....?
He broke his silence re QPR to say this..
Look ultimately doesnt really matter/affect things...But to me I interpreted it (over-interpreted)one way...Others did another way...
#WeLoveYouTony
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 22, 2014 0:52:37 GMT
And good luck from Tony
"@tonyfernandes: From mab to QPR. it's the weekend. All thoughts on Harry and the boys. Come on. you rangers."
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Post by alfaranger on Feb 22, 2014 10:44:37 GMT
I dont believe managers are in full control like they used to be, if Redknapp asks for a player and the owners say all good then the manager gets that player, so even though a player is a manager's pick it is the club who do the deal in terms of money paid and length of contract, if a owner does not sanction the deal, manager has two choices resign or get on with his job, its a shared responsibility for me. When will TF learn that he dont need the bearded wonder, but a football man as his ceo, I'm sure there are many a ex footballer out there who could do a better job than beard does, someone who can tell him ya or nay, instead of i aint got a didgerridoo. You've touched on Beard here and I believe that he is the weak link in our club. It may be that you can appoint a 'proven' business brain and ask them to run any business with reasonable success as the same principles apply even if they are not apparent to start with (the ex chief exec of M&S taking on failing health trusts for instance - although I don't know if you should treat patients as goods). I think Beard is here just for the stadium move and doesn't understand football at all in the way you point out he should. Mark pointed out in the 'poor team spirit' thread a short while ago the problem of the home end and Beard's avoidance of the subject. This may be an absolute nothing to him, clearly it is as he has done nothing about it as he probably thinks it will clear up when we get the new stadium. To him, 'the club', 'our club' is nothing but a means to an end, I believe it's transparent for all to see. |
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 22, 2014 14:05:28 GMT
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Post by luckycharms on Feb 22, 2014 18:24:34 GMT
Fernandes will never get it right when hiring managers. You all wonder why he isn't aware of the problems associated with Redknap or Hughes the way football fans are. It's been an education for me personally. But Fernandes hiring MO is pretty simple - looks at CV, sees impressive results - hired. That's how he does with all his senior officers. They are relatively young, full of ideas, successful.
Plus their attire and 'professiona'l aura. If they wear a suit, have PP presentations and are snappy, dapper dressers and can talk business/strategy speak you're 99% there. It's why Fernandes's first choice was always Hughes even before Warnock's campaign stumbled, and how he saw Andres Villa Boas as his dream manager (back then)
Hiring Redknapp was born of desperation. He hired against type there.
He never bothers nor has time to read up on say Redknapp's spending at Portsmouth or Hughes failure at City. All he cares about is Hughes kept Blackburn up and Redknapp was manager of a flair Spurs side and was apparently in line to be England manager.
I find it incredibly old-fashioned/daft of him despite how connected he is to the latest fads and technologies that neither he nor his team bother to do simple background checks on prospective managers. It would take him 5-10 minutes to just google a name and read up on their work history.
So good news is until he does read up more, your next manager will be a young man in a suit, carrying an IPAD filled with snazzy football diagrams. Villas Boa and Laudrup are likely front runners.
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Post by lofty on Feb 22, 2014 18:38:13 GMT
As many believed in the beginning of the season, Fernandes' greatest mistake was allowing a 66 year old manager at the twilight of his career build ("build") our team. Regardless of whether we were promoted or not, we'd have to rebuild with an almost entirely new squad given how much relied on loan players and players on the downslope.
Of course Redknapp was never going to develop and groom young players to star for us 2 or 3 years from now, or shape a team that can cultivate chemistry over time, grow together and ascend into the Premier League together. He was never in it for the long haul. Shame on Fernandes for not seeing this.
If (when) we don't get promoted, we'll only have a couple of good young players to show for it as we rebuild top-to-bottom oncemore. Hopefully this time, Fernandes gets it right with a young, hungry manager with everything to prove.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 23:29:25 GMT
I dont believe managers are in full control like they used to be, if Redknapp asks for a player and the owners say all good then the manager gets that player, so even though a player is a manager's pick it is the club who do the deal in terms of money paid and length of contract, if a owner does not sanction the deal, manager has two choices resign or get on with his job, its a shared responsibility for me. When will TF learn that he dont need the bearded wonder, but a football man as his ceo, I'm sure there are many a ex footballer out there who could do a better job than beard does, someone who can tell him ya or nay, instead of i aint got a didgerridoo. You've touched on Beard here and I believe that he is the weak link in our club. It may be that you can appoint a 'proven' business brain and ask them to run any business with reasonable success as the same principles apply even if they are not apparent to start with (the ex chief exec of M&S taking on failing health trusts for instance - although I don't know if you should treat patients as goods). I think Beard is here just for the stadium move and doesn't understand football at all in the way you point out he should. Mark pointed out in the 'poor team spirit' thread a short while ago the problem of the home end and Beard's avoidance of the subject. This may be an absolute nothing to him, clearly it is as he has done nothing about it as he probably thinks it will clear up when we get the new stadium. To him, 'the club', 'our club' is nothing but a means to an end, I believe it's transparent for all to see. I just don't get the point of having him at the club alfa,I dont know what that Nicola Cortese is up to but if i was TF i would give him a call to see if he would like to get back into football, he gets the big decisions right, dont talk nonsense and doesn't take any either, sounds like the sort of man we need at the club. P.S alfa can you if you dont mind please edit my bit of the post so it says yay not ya  |
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 23, 2014 7:34:10 GMT
Tony Fernandes Post-Charlton Comments (Sunday Morning US & England Time)
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Post by lofty on Feb 23, 2014 19:55:54 GMT
There are no quick fixes -- so let's bring in 8 short-term loans.
This is a long-term project -- so let's have a 66 year old manager build the team
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 20:10:13 GMT
This aint the managers fault.
Redknapp wanted the glory of getting a team promoted on first attempt. So he chanced that old pros and aqainted loan players would do it.
Fernandes said he would build with youth.....aint happened.
Fernandes said he would not get his trousers taken down again.....they are round his ankles yet again.
I m not blaming harry for our slump, its how football is.
Im not blaming harry for not building a team for the future... Cos he has no future...only the moment.
Fernandes is the weak link. He has promised and not stuck to his word.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 23, 2015 8:00:15 GMT
The Clive Whittingham article from a year ago is just as relevant/accurate a year later. The big question is whether with Les Ferdinand/Ramsey etc, this time we really have changed our approach...or whether it's just the latest phase of TF and will change again. Time will tell. |
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Post by sharky on Feb 23, 2015 15:15:31 GMT
Still looking backwards Mac?!
Looking backwards you can always find something to prove whatever point it is you want.
I prefer to look forward. We have a new Manager, a team that's reinvigorated. I look forward to good things happening.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 23, 2015 15:41:58 GMT
Still looking backwards Mac?! Looking backwards you can always find something to prove whatever point it is you want. I prefer to look forward. We have a new Manager, a team that's reinvigorated. I look forward to good things happening. And I delighted that so many people look forward. But as you may have noticed: Looking back - both positive and negative - is something I do.    |
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