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Post by cpr on May 13, 2012 22:03:15 GMT
Barton should be sacked for not knocking out Balotelli and chinning Mancini on his way off.
Cheating diving horrible team who tried every trick in the book.
I now hate them and will take great pleasure in us taking the title off them next season!
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 13, 2012 22:04:49 GMT
I think what he did was disgraceful but if you are going to attack player off the ball you have to at least do some damage
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Post by cpr on May 13, 2012 22:16:37 GMT
I think what he did gave us the spirit to go in front.
I think a lot of our players felt hard done by.
He'd been kicked by Aguerro not two minutes before and then gets' whacked by Tevez.
I backed him, he's ours and he fought back!
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 13, 2012 22:17:51 GMT
Ok I'm a little more clear headed now.
Barton is a c u next tuesday, no-one can deny that, but he is our c u next tuesday. For now anyway.
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Post by Marc on May 13, 2012 22:32:27 GMT
Well fark me, did Joey just admit doing wrong???
"Shearers still on my case..."I know I f*cked up Alan, thanks for stating the obvious.""
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Post by tom007 on May 13, 2012 22:37:39 GMT
i agree cpr they and utd are a pair of cheats and he was showing passion albeit a little too much but in our cause.lol
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Post by klr on May 13, 2012 23:20:07 GMT
The funny thing is, we dont even need him, the reality is he has not been our stand out midfield performer in our recent matches at home, it would probably be a disservice to say he has been carried, but no way has he performed as well as effectively in that midfield "Win aggressively / Win ugly role as either Derry or Diakite I dont care what anyone says.
We also have the sensational intellectual football player Alejandro Faurlin to return.
We need Joey Barton like a hole in the head.
We dont need him, we have several superior players than him in central midfield Derry Included, QPR Captain ?! biggest joke of the season.
Its turned in to a freak show, Thank You & Goodbye, dont forget to take your baggage with you.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 13, 2012 23:22:00 GMT
Joey Barton has apologised to QPR's players and supporters after being sent off in the 3-2 defeat at Manchester City on Sunday afternoon.
PA Photos Joey Barton sees red after a clash with Carlos Tevez • City win title in injury time
Barton insisted, though, he did not deserve to be dismissed and revealed he tried to get a City player sent off as well.
The controversial midfielder saw red for elbowing Carlos Tevez and then kneed Sergio Aguero, an incident which sparked a mass confrontation.
"Can do nothing but apologise to the players and the fans. Still don't think its a sending off. Tried to take 1 of their players with me...'' Barton wrote on Twitter.
"The head was never gone at any stage, once I'd been sent off, one of our players suggested I should try to take 1 of theirs with me...''
"...Never worked but god loves a trier. £reallynotbother £wearesafe.
"Still not my proudest moment but who gives a ****, we are safe..........and that is all that matters.''
The score was 1-1 at the time, with Djibril Cisse cancelling out Pablo Zabaleta's opener for City, although Jamie Mackie gave the visitors a shock lead after Barton's dismissal.
Although stoppage time strikes from Edin Dzeko and Sergio Aguero handed City the win and the Premier League title, QPR's safety was ensured following Bolton's draw at Stoke.
"To all those nuggets who've been tweeting about relegation all season.......u were wrong. £chinup,'' Barton added.
"To those same nuggets, the ones that constantly wrote us of all season. See u in the Premiership next season... £comeonur'sss.''
From Soccernet.com
Well Joey, two words for you - F*** & Off. We do not need thugs at QPR. You have failed to deliver all season. Your abilities in passing, crossing, scoring and setting up play are on par with those of Ned Zelic & Mark Hateley. IE absolutely abysmal. You should be embarrassed every pay day.
At your current ability level I would consider giving 500 pound per week, not 80k.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 13, 2012 23:28:01 GMT
I hear Wet Spam would be interested in him if they get promoted. As much as I'd prefer Blackpool getting back up, which is the lesser of the two evils??
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Post by klr on May 13, 2012 23:34:49 GMT
I hear Wet Spam would be interested in him if they get promoted. As much as I'd prefer Blackpool getting back up, which is the lesser of the two evils?? Stoke or West Ham hopefully. dont care if he ends up at Timbuktu Tigers, just get rid of ASAP......
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Post by alqpr81 on May 13, 2012 23:42:32 GMT
The funny thing is, we dont even need him, the reality is he has not been our stand out midfield performer in our recent matches at home, it would probably be a disservice to say he has been carried, but no way has he performed as well as effectively in that midfield "Win aggressively / Win ugly role as either Derry or Diakite I dont care what anyone says. We also have the sensational intellectual football player Alejandro Faurlin to return. We need Joey Barton like a hole in the head. We dont need him, we have several superior players than him in central midfield Derry Included, QPR Captain ?! biggest joke of the season. Its turned in to a freak show, Thank You & Goodbye, dont forget to take your baggage with you. I see where you're coming from KLR in the angry stakes as a reaction to Barton's red mist madness, but love him or loathe him, Derry is nowhere near the standard of Barton. In fact it was Barton's work rate that was having to carry Derry earlier on in the season, until Hughes had Derry playing deeper, as suited his ability. Even today, Derry gave the ball away a number of times through poor passing. Defensively he was brilliant, as they all were, but I'm just saying he's a very limited player and to say he's better than JB is a bit excessive to say the least. A couple of weeks ago we were all saying how well Barton was doing, after his improvement after Liverpool, so for all those people to go off on one now because he lost his rag after being fouled, punched and abused I think is over the top. I wish beyond belief that he'd just let it go because he was playing well, and we were performing miracles..but he didn't, Tevez didn't get the red card he should have, and now Joey has dug himself another massive massive hole. Personally, I don't think we'll miss him purely because there's a myriad of other midfielders we can buy in the Summer - even from the relegated clubs (feels good to say that!) there's Hoilett, Jarvis and Mark Davies for example who would all be decent aquisitions - but this season, despite the lows, he's given 110% workrate wise even when playing crap, so I still think all the instant hostility towards him is a little undeserved. Don't get me wrong though, he did a remarkably stupid thing today, and it could have cost us our Premier League status..but fortunately it didn't, and Traore/Mackie popped up with the goods to keep us in it until the Man U final whistle went...which I reckon was why City got the winner when they did.
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 13, 2012 23:50:25 GMT
Derrys legs are gone. Sad to say but time for him to move on. Barton's initial offence could almost be forgiven but retaliation is just that, then to do the cheap shot to the other player and then try and headbutt someone else is unforgivable. They might like doing that up North but not wanted or warrented here at QPR. Hence I am really angry at this thug - the same one that stuck a ciggie in that guys eye for a joke. He needs to be run out of town.
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Post by Rafta on May 14, 2012 0:46:10 GMT
IMO he is a legend today, hes obviously gonna react, got unlucky to get clocked by the lino.. but attacking them players was a tactical move that flopped, if one of them reacted and got sent of too? 10v10 Barton for England!
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Post by schuter82 on May 14, 2012 1:41:24 GMT
Had some time to settle after all the emotions from earlier. He fu**ed up. He admits it. End of story. If the rest of the team forgives him and backs him, then I can.
My first concern, which some have pointed out, is he seems to be targeted by others becausevof reactions like this...so can we trust it won't happen again...and again?
Second, ive always defended Barton because I honestly feel he cares and is a team player. But today was first time I thought it was entirely selfish. I don't know...his follow up tweets suggest his reaction after the card was to take someone with him...part of me says that is a convenient response.
If the club keep him and back him I'll support him.
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Post by wotnoplastic on May 14, 2012 3:18:12 GMT
Not helping by posting but don't want to start a new thread, I don't think it'll matter. Shame whilst typing this is the top subject of this board. We are still in the prem. I'm excited for next season. Barton, SWP, this that and whatever. Can we just chill for a bit?
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Post by eusebio13 on May 14, 2012 5:41:49 GMT
I'm all for circling the wagons around one of our own but this is ridiculous....if what we're saying is that poor old Barton got done by Tevez then what a sucker he is to be drawn in. He's certainly no innocent on past history and elbowing another is just dirty and stupid. We got intoxicated by the opportunity of getting a big name and we've been making excuses for this scumbag all year....he's a bad boy without the skill or charm to be endearing and he should go...unfortunately pragmatism will mean he'll probably stay to embarrass us again
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Post by Macmoish on May 14, 2012 6:36:39 GMT
Does Barton strengthen the worldwide image we want to have of QPR? I think Not.... Anyway given his presume long absence, I can't believe we won't have a new captain. That's just for starters. Presumably Anton Ferdinand would be the leading candidate. MAIL Enough is enough! Why time has now run out for Barton the bully after Etihad assault By Ian Ladyman PUBLISHED: 17:16 EST, 13 May 2012 | UPDATED: 17:18 EST, 13 May 2012 Comments (8) Share The only real surprise is that anybody should really be surprised. Joey Barton’s career - such as it has been - has been characterised by violence. How appropriate that his thuggish, uncontrollable temper should come to the surface again at the club where it all started. People have made excuses for Barton for too long. From those at the Sporting Chance Clinic who have helped him so much, to those on Twitter who seem so happy to fall at his feet just because he deigns to reply to them. Yes, you know who you are. Flashpoint: Barton is pulled off the pitch after clashing with City players Flashpoint: Barton is pulled off the pitch after clashing with City players For those of us who have witnessed Barton’s career from its inception under Kevin Keegan 10 years ago, nothing that he does on or off the field ever comes as a shock. He can cloak himself all he likes in quotes lifted from dictionaries and lyrics borrowed from The Smiths. Ultimately, he remains a deeply violent man. The first sign of his latest shameful episode came on Sunday when Carlos Tevez was spotted lying prone on the QPR 18-yard-line after 53 minutes. The linesman had seen a sly Barton elbow to the Argentine’s chin. Referee Mike Dean’s red card was swift but Barton never goes quietly, does he? There was still time to knee Sergio Aguero from behind, then come into conflict with Mario Balotelli and Vincent Kompany as he reluctantly walked off the field. Only the shepherding arm of former team-mate Micah Richards stopped further confrontation. Ultimately, this didn’t cost QPR. It harmed Manchester United more as it afforded City the added time they needed to turn this incredible afternoon on its head. Seeing red: Barton is handed his marching orders after Tevez was floored Seeing red: Barton is handed his marching orders after Tevez was floored Seeing red: Barton is handed his marching orders after Tevez was floored But that is not the point. This is a team sport and Barton has never understood this. In his mind the spotlight shines only on him and one would imagine it will shine brightly when Mark Hughes kicks him out of the club this summer. The QPR manager said on Sunday: ‘We lost Joey to a sending-off and it shouldn’t have happened. That was the only negative. I haven’t spoken to him. In fact, I haven’t seen the incident again. ‘But I have heard what happened and it was a sending-off. Forgive me if I don’t get into it any more but I don’t want to detract from what we have achieved here today.’ Hughes was a combative sort when he played. He knew how it felt to be in a battle. But true warriors fight nobly and largely within the rules. They don’t resort to cheap shots and elbows on the blind side. Barton, in short, is a bully. He attacked a club-mate - Jamie Tandy - with a lit cigar at a City Christmas party. He set upon another - Ousmane Dabo - when the Frenchman’s back was turned at the training ground. They are still picking up bits of Dabo’s teeth. If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be funny. If so many hadn’t fallen for his faux intellect since he took to Twitter to reinvent himself a year or so ago maybe he would be just that little bit easier to stomach. High praise: Hughes congratulated Mancini on landing the title High praise: Hughes congratulated Mancini on landing the title One would imagine Barton will not again be invited to sit in on an editorial conference at The Guardian. Yes, that really happened. It’s also difficult to imagine him being invited back on to Newsnight by the BBC. Yes, that really happened too. There will be those who stand by him, of course. Even the most obvious fraud will manage to hoodwink a few. But looking at Barton’s face as he felled Aguero on Sunday, you could see how his mind really works. Contorted by a sneer, it was reminiscent of his look when he poleaxed Blackburn’s Morten Gamst Pedersen with a punch to the chest while playing for Newcastle last season. Back then his manager Chris Hughton said people were only making a fuss of the incident ‘because it’s Joey’. But that’s the point. It is always Joey. It always has been and it always will. A talented footballer - more talented than some recognise - has allowed his gifts to be obscured by lunacy and there is no reason to suggest he will change. On Sunday night Barton took to Twitter to apologise, feign indifference and then attempt to justify his actions. All at the same time. There was an expletive thrown in just for good measure. More pertinent, though, was this offering from earlier this year. ‘Why do people always want to solve any conflict with a fight?’ he tweeted. ‘As a pacifist I find it incredible.’ Keep talking Joey. Just don’t be surprised if the world stops listening. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2143960/Joey-Barton-bully-run-time.html#ixzz1up6scxht
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Post by Sabas on May 14, 2012 7:07:26 GMT
Perhaps this was already mentioned before... but for me, the interesting thing was that nobody from the on-field teammates or the bench tried to calm him down or escort him. At that moment I was thinking, probably nobody does like Joey.
Are his relationships that bad within the squad?
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Post by gramps on May 14, 2012 7:38:56 GMT
To those who suggest we turn a blind eye because JB has been our saviour in half a dozen games or so I would send this analogy. I have worked throughout my adult life on very many projects raising tens of thousands of pounds for charitable deeds and always been ready to help somebody in need. I like to think this makes me a reasonable person. If, then, I go out and murder somebody tomorrow does that mean I should be let off because of my past record? No place for thugs at LR.
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Post by Macmoish on May 14, 2012 7:56:14 GMT
Presume if he stays, he'll be happy to forgo those wages for those reportedly 9 or 10 games (1/4 of the season) that he won't be available for us.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 8:08:51 GMT
I believe Barton has been thinking about his wages and trying to make it clear about staying for next season. We should get rid as soon as possible as QPR have never been a dirty club for as long as I can remember and I don't want to see us get labelled as one.
The QPR fans on here who have defended him have made poor judgement in my opinion.
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Post by jjqpr on May 14, 2012 8:18:32 GMT
I am glad a few others now see city for the cheating scum they are...not defending barton one bit, but i for one wish we'd beaten them , just held on for those 2 minutes and spoilt their title party while we get the result of our season. Barton you are a twat, tevez you are scum. hate both manc clubs equally now!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 8:24:43 GMT
I am glad a few others now see city for the cheating scum they are...not defending barton one bit, but i for one wish we'd beaten them , just held on for those 2 minutes and spoilt their title party while we get the result of our season. Barton you are a twat, tevez you are scum. hate both manc clubs equally now! Yeah, I feel the same way But I suppose one of them had to win
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Post by superckat on May 14, 2012 8:32:07 GMT
Barton isn't captain material. So he should be stripped of that. He is also over paid but that's the clubs fault. But don't think he should be sacked. He is who he is. The club knew what he was like when we got him. There have been a lot dirtier players over the years. Cantona. Keane, Ince, Vinny Jones, Julien Dicks, duncan Ferguson. The difference with those guys and many others is they were very good players. So was forgiven by their clubs and fans. Barton hasn't proved himself with us yet. If he was as good as he thinks he is we would all be lashing out at Tevez. Also everyone seems to miss that Barton receives an awful lot of punishment during games but never bottles it. I reckon opposition don't rate him as tough as he rates himself so targets him because they know there is a good chance he will do something stupid. It Also appears he isn't feared by opposition like the ones I mentioned earlier are.
So stripped of the captaincy, imo yes. Sacked, imo No. He isn't a leader and our own fans don't believe he is one either, but on his day he could still do a good job for us. He's not seriously hurt anyone and what he got sent off for he has received much worse during matches.
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Post by qprtobefrank on May 14, 2012 8:40:59 GMT
I'm all for circling the wagons around one of our own but this is ridiculous....if what we're saying is that poor old Barton got done by Tevez then what a sucker he is to be drawn in. He's certainly no innocent on past history and elbowing another is just dirty and stupid. We got intoxicated by the opportunity of getting a big name and we've been making excuses for this scumbag all year....he's a bad boy without the skill or charm to be endearing and he should go...unfortunately pragmatism will mean he'll probably stay to embarrass us again Quite right, INDEFENSIBLE !! Barton is a disgrace and not worthy of ever wearing the Blue and White Hoops again. Good to see so many passionate BUT intelligent assessments from QPR fans. And then there are the following Kempton Ranger Stylecouncillor CPR ("Administrator" ! ) Tom007 Scubahoop Rafta Not sure whether you lot are on a wind up, are Chelscum in disguise, cant handle your ale, have too few brain cells or just maybe all of the above but your child-like neanderthal rantings on this thread are at best laughable and embarrassing and at worst disturbing and an insult to this great club. Like the charming Mr Barton you should all be ashamed of yourselves but also like him sadly, I doubt you will be!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 8:47:59 GMT
I'm all for circling the wagons around one of our own but this is ridiculous....if what we're saying is that poor old Barton got done by Tevez then what a sucker he is to be drawn in. He's certainly no innocent on past history and elbowing another is just dirty and stupid. We got intoxicated by the opportunity of getting a big name and we've been making excuses for this scumbag all year....he's a bad boy without the skill or charm to be endearing and he should go...unfortunately pragmatism will mean he'll probably stay to embarrass us again Quite right, INDEFENSIBLE !! Barton is a disgrace and not worthy of ever wearing the Blue and White Hoops again. Good to see so many passionate BUT intelligent assessments from QPR fans. And then there are the following Kempton Ranger Stylecouncillor CPR ("Administrator" ! ) Tom007 Scubahoop Rafta Not sure whether you lot are on a wind up, are Chelscum in disguise, cant handle your ale, have too few brain cells or just maybe all of the above but your child-like neanderthal rantings on this thread are at best laughable and embarrassing and at worst disturbing and an insult to this great club. Like the charming Mr Barton you should all be ashamed of yourselves but also like him sadly, I doubt you will be! They are all QPR but have made poor posts on this thread i'm afraid.
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Post by haqpr1963 on May 14, 2012 8:53:23 GMT
Perhaps this was already mentioned before... but for me, the interesting thing was that nobody from the on-field teammates or the bench tried to calm him down or escort him. At that moment I was thinking, probably nobody does like Joey. Are his relationships that bad within the squad? Joey Tweeted the following.... "The head was never gone at any stage, once I'd been sent off, one of our players suggested I should try to take 1 of theirs with me..." Agree totaly with CPR on this, hopefully the FA will look at Teves as well when they investigate this. Joey has issues, and it was clear that Citeh targetted them.......
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 14, 2012 9:18:09 GMT
Perhaps this was already mentioned before... but for me, the interesting thing was that nobody from the on-field teammates or the bench tried to calm him down or escort him. At that moment I was thinking, probably nobody does like Joey. Are his relationships that bad within the squad? Joey Tweeted the following.... "The head was never gone at any stage, once I'd been sent off, one of our players suggested I should try to take 1 of theirs with me..." Agree totaly with CPR on this, hopefully the FA will look at Teves as well when they investigate this. Joey has issues, and it was clear that Citeh targetted them....... I don't like that he tweeted that, I bet not a single QPR player actually said that to him. It just makes the rest of our squad look bad. I have a weird feeling the FA will throw the book at him and maybe ban him for life?
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Post by scubahoop on May 14, 2012 10:22:05 GMT
In reply to qprtobefrank and andrewqpr, is it the policy of this forum to personally single out and attack people who share a different view from you? Just for the record, I am not a Chelsea fan, was not on the ale and am a graduate, so probably do have some brain cells. I was drawn to this forum becuase I thought it was an intelligent place where people could trade ideas freely. Not so sure it is now. Thank goodness football is played on grass in stadiums and not on the internet.
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Post by Markqpr on May 14, 2012 10:33:01 GMT
Not sure whether you lot are on a wind up, are Chelscum in disguise, cant handle your ale, have too few brain cells or just maybe all of the above but your child-like neanderthal rantings on this thread are at best laughable and embarrassing and at worst disturbing and an insult to this great club. Like the charming Mr Barton you should all be ashamed of yourselves but also like him sadly, I doubt you will be! Oh, the irony.
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