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Post by Macmoish on May 23, 2012 19:02:05 GMT
But Bradley Allen - as if he knows - thinks he still has a QPR Future www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/ex-qpr-star-believes-joey-barton-still8-has-a-future52-at-loftus-road/Ex-QPR star believes Joey Barton still has a future at Loftus Road 23/05/2012 by West London Sport Former QPR striker Bradley Allen has told Sky he believes Joey Barton still has a future at Loftus Road despite being hit with a 12-match ban. Rangers are considering their response after the midfielder was found guilty of two acts of violent conduct following his sending-off in the recent match against Manchester City. It’s believed Barton may have played his last match for the club. But Allen said: “He’s got quite a lucrative long-term contract and if QPR wanted to get rid of him it wouldn’t be straightforward. “I think the manager is going to have to accept that he [Barton] is going to be out of action for some time. Hopefully he can make it up to the team, Mark Hughes and the fans. “I hope he can learn, continue to mature, put it behind him and move forward. Joey Barton is still a top Premier League footballer and has much to offer.” |
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 23, 2012 19:02:42 GMT
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Post by gramps on May 23, 2012 19:05:53 GMT
As I understand it, he has to be in the 25 to serve his ban. This means, in effect, that we will have a squad of only 24 for a third of the season - or do I misunderstand the situation. So, assuming he is in the 25 at the beginning of the season and we have a midfield which is well settled and working wonders without him, do we then disrupt it when he is available again?
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Post by Macmoish on May 23, 2012 19:07:23 GMT
IF he was still with us, I presume we'd have him on the subs bench...and then work his way back in...But who knows...
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Post by Hogan on May 23, 2012 19:08:58 GMT
He does not need to be in the 25.
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Post by klr on May 23, 2012 19:09:08 GMT
Certainly QPR would be breaking new unprecedented ground in making ourselves look stupid & "smalltime" if we were to bite the bullet & "Bottle It" here, owners have to hold their hands up & admit to the quite frankly ridiculous mistakes they made in the transfer market last summer, namely Barton & SWP, dear oh dear, I can think of only Liverpool who F*cked up worse than us & they are a "big club" that can afford to "F*ck up"
Think the owners have to step up to the plate & roll out the big guns here, QPR want to move forward, not look like a bunch of muppets.
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Post by Macmoish on May 23, 2012 19:16:55 GMT
Not sure if had the entire statement. If so apologies
QPR Official Site
FA STATEMENT
Posted on: Wed 23 May 2012
An independent Regulatory Commission has today (Wednesday 23 May 2012) dealt with two charges of violent conduct against Joey Barton, arising from the game against Manchester City, resulting in an eight-match suspension and £75,000 fine for the Queens Park Rangers midfielder.
This eight-match suspension is to run consecutively to the four-game suspension Barton was already given for his dismissal in the fixture, making a total of 12 matches.
Barton was charged by The FA with two counts of violent conduct in relation to the Queens Park Rangers game against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium on Sunday 13 May 2012.
Following Barton's dismissal in the 54th minute of the match, there followed two incidents involving Manchester City's Sergio Aguero and Vincent Kompany. As Barton had already been dismissed, both of these incidents fell outside the jurisdiction of the referee.
Barton accepted the charge of violent conduct against Aguero but denied the second breach of violent conduct against Kompany. The independent Regulatory Commission, however, found this second charge proved.
Barton is already serving a four-match suspension for his dismissal in the match, which consists of three matches for violent conduct plus one match as this was the player's second dismissal of the season. The two further breaches for violent conduct ordered he be suspended for eight matches to run consecutively to the four matches, taking the total suspension to 12 matches.
The Chairman of the Regulatory Commission stated after the hearing: "There are rules of conduct that should be adhered to, and such behaviour tarnishes the image of football in this country, particularly as this match was the pinnacle of the domestic season and watched by millions around the globe."
The Club will be making no further comment.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 21:08:06 GMT
who would want to sign a player who has a twelve game ban hanging over him, any club would be stupid to pay him for doing nothing for 12 games, then his fitness might come into it has he wont be up to speed to go straight into the team, i think he will be staying at loftus road at least until the january window.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 23, 2012 21:09:50 GMT
who would want to sign a player who has a twelve game ban hanging over him, any club would be stupid to pay him for doing nothing for 12 games, then his fitness might come into it has he wont be up to speed to go straight into the team, i think he will be staying at loftus road at least until the january window. He can go abroad though. |
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Post by gramps on May 23, 2012 21:23:08 GMT
He does not need to be in the 25. I may be thick, but I don't understand that. If he is not in the 25 then surely he can't be banned from playing in 12 games that he would not be eligible to play in anyway? Oh, my brain aches! |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 23, 2012 21:27:54 GMT
He does not need to be in the 25. I may be thick, but I don't understand that. If he is not in the 25 then surely he can't be banned from playing in 12 games that he would not be eligible to play in anyway? Oh, my brain aches! Whenever he is next eligible to play in an English league, whether it's next season or in 3 years time, he will have to serve his 12 match ban. |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on May 23, 2012 21:37:34 GMT
barton is a knob and needs no sympathy, i will be at the front of that mob holding torches , best for the club which it is.
but i am welcome to hear the arguement against kicking his i'm misunderstood no one understands me arse out of our club.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 21:39:00 GMT
who would want to sign a player who has a twelve game ban hanging over him, any club would be stupid to pay him for doing nothing for 12 games, then his fitness might come into it has he wont be up to speed to go straight into the team, i think he will be staying at loftus road at least until the january window. He can go abroad though. the only time your see barton playing abroad is on the beach when on his hols, unless unless someone in the faroe islands or the nepalese first division fancy taking a punt on a ****. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 23, 2012 22:59:03 GMT
Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9286414/No-sensible-Premier-League-manager-will-take-a-risk-on-disgraced-Joey-Barton.html No sensible Premier League manager will take a risk on disgraced Joey Barton For hire: one chugging midfielder who thought he was Steven Gerrard while hiding his violent urges behind a veneer of irony and bookishness. Not available for 12 games. Making their point: Joey Barton confronts Carlos Tévez in the incident that led to his 12-match ban Photo: ACTION IMAGES By Paul Hayward With his anger management, his self-improvement and his veneration of honesty over hypocrisy, Joey Barton will have to admit that no sensible club would want to offer him a contract following his suspension for 12 matches on two charges of violent conduct. Only two, you might ask? The melee started by the Queens Park Rangers agent provocateur defiled a great contest in which Vincent Kompany — whom Barton tried to nut — displayed spirit, selflessness, leadership, humility: all the qualities lacking in his assailant, who pulled a face of the purest malice when kneeing Sergio Agüero from behind. Over the next few days we can expect a steady flow of contorted cleverness about how society is really the culprit, with its stupidity and double standards. But even Newsnight are unlikely to buy this now. Nor will the broadsheet papers who invited him through the door to share his autodidactic musings — and managed both to patronise and elevate him in the process. Football being a pretty amoral business, all the talk now will be of where Barton will pitch the tent of his modest talent next. He will be talked about as a commodity, as he was after punching a man between 18 and 20 times in Liverpool city centre in December 2007 while on Newcastle's books. Later he had the temerity to lecture the Newcastle board about custodianship and fidelity to the badge. This, from a player who has torched bridges at Manchester City, Newcastle and now QPR. The pattern is of righteousness, loss of self-control and then a victim stance. If he were another Gerrard he might be able to pull it off, but he is really only a slow, midfield link-man who has alienated just about every manager he has played for. The problem for his current employers, plainly, is that no sane manager will want to import such disruptiveness. The gain is not sufficient to offset the risks. There is another cost. Barton had become a poster boy for the Sporting Chance culture of rehabilitation, which has saved many troubled souls. The organisation must feel a regular sense of failure and betrayal. In isolation this offence ranks lower than Paolo Di Canio pushing over a referee (11 games) or Paul Davis punching Glenn Cockerill (nine). But in the context of all his previous transgressions — jabbing a cigar in a Man City trainee’s face, beating up Ousmane Dabo on the training ground — the FA was within its rights to exclude him for as long as possible, perhaps in the hope that the game will now turn its back on him, as most professions would. Heaven knows football needs unconventional thinking, awkward players, people to challenge the corporate norm. But not with their fists Paul Hayward » IN QUEENS PARK RANGERS Fa John Terry |
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Post by manta on May 23, 2012 23:10:50 GMT
Barton needs psychiatric help.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 23:30:32 GMT
I think the F.A were spot on for once with 12 games
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Post by powerpump on May 24, 2012 0:43:25 GMT
Barton is toxic and as with some other signings was and is a big mistake.We want him out as soon possible as it gives our club a bad name. Depending on what the lawyers say either cancel(void) his contract and/or pay him off to get rid of him.
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Post by wotnoplastic on May 24, 2012 2:52:37 GMT
That's disgusting. Who's in charge of the collection bucket to help the poor fella out? |
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Post by hotanalyst on May 24, 2012 4:14:36 GMT
I am constantly amazed at how difficult it is to sack a professional football player. Assaulting other players, whether on the pitch, in training or at a staff party, is a clear case of gross misconduct. In any other industry or workplace, gross misconduct results in automatic dismissal. Yet football players seem able to conduct themselves in such a manner and then march into tribunals with their lawyers and the PFA and retain their employment. With the clubs tip-toeing around the situation rather than acting decisively. It would be truly outrageous if he were paid the balance £12.48 million of his contract to go. As well as punch a hole in the finances of our club!
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Post by saphilip on May 24, 2012 5:33:32 GMT
Well I did predict anything between a 10 match and 15 match ban so I wasn't far off.
I think it is a fair decision and cannot argue agaisnt the penalty - although I would have preferred it if Tevez had also been fingered for his role in this whole sad episode.
So now we are payimng somebody 80k a week for sitting on his arse and doing nothing for 12 weeks. Wonderful - and we are stuck with him.
Idiot.
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Post by gramps on May 24, 2012 6:17:56 GMT
OK, locking the stable door after the horse has bolted and so on but ..................... in my opinion players should have a clause in their contract which absolves the club from paying off any outstanding period of said contract in the event that such an act is perpetrated.
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Post by gramps on May 24, 2012 6:20:43 GMT
I may be thick, but I don't understand that. If he is not in the 25 then surely he can't be banned from playing in 12 games that he would not be eligible to play in anyway? Oh, my brain aches! Whenever he is next eligible to play in an English league, whether it's next season or in 3 years time, he will have to serve his 12 match ban. As stated, I may be thick but to be eligible to play in an English League he must surely be one of the 25 selected as such which means one of your 25 players is not available for 12 games. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 24, 2012 6:51:08 GMT
Guardian Joey Barton given unprecedented 12-game ban by FA for violent conduct • QPR midfielder also fined £75,000 for actions against Man City • 'Such behaviour tarnishes the image of football in this country' Jamie Jackson Joey Barton has been banned for 12 matches and fined £75,000 by the Football Association, an unprecedented tariff that places his future at Queens Park Rangers in serious doubt. Before the ruling the club had already met to discuss options regarding their captain. After finding the midfielder guilty of two charges of violent conduct in QPR's 3-2 defeat at Manchester City on the season's final day the chairman of the FA regulatory commission stated that Barton's behaviour "tarnishes the image of football". For the two violent conduct counts Barton was handed an eight‑game suspension to follow on consecutively from the four matches he will already miss for being sent off in the game. After receiving the red card for appearing to strike Carlos Tevez, Barton then kicked Sergio Agüero and attempted to headbutt Vincent Kompany. After the hearing, the regulatory commission chairman condemned the midfielder's actions, saying: "There are rules of conduct that should be adhered to, and such behaviour tarnishes the image of football in this country, particularly as this match was the pinnacle of the domestic season and watched by millions around the globe." Barton admitted kicking Agüero but denied the charge involving Kompany and requested a personal hearing. However, the commission found against him. Barton now has leave to appeal, but his future at Rangers is also far from certain. The FA statement said: "Barton accepted the charge of violent conduct against Agüero but denied the second breach of violent conduct against Kompany. The independent regulatory commission , however, found this second charge proved." Barton's troubled season began when he was dismissed on 2 January in a 2-1 defeat by Norwich City at Loftus Road, before he compounded the incidents at the Etihad Stadium by later admitting on Twitter that he attempted to get one of the City players sent off too, claiming that a team-mate "suggested I should try to take one of theirs with me". The midfielder has had a troubled history on and off the pitch. In December 2004 he was fined six weeks' wages for stubbing a lit cigar in the eye of a young team-mate during Manchester City's Christmas party. In May 2007 Barton was suspended by City after a training-ground altercation with Ousmane Dabo. He was charged with assault, and in July 2008 received a four-month suspended jail sentence. The FA also banned him for 12 matches, six of which were suspended and a £25,000 fine. Later that year he was arrested in Liverpool city centre after a late-night incident and later charged with common assault and affray, and in May 2008 was jailed for six months. Paolo Di Canio's 11-match ban for pushing over the referee Paul Alcock in 1998 and Eric Cantona's nine-month suspension for attacking a spectator in 1995 are among the longest tariffs since the Premier League's formation. www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/23/joey-barton-12-game-ban-fa |
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Post by bp on May 24, 2012 7:37:35 GMT
Oh well there is a silver lining in all this.
How will the FA deal with John Terry when he is found guilty?
I wonder how long his ban will be?
Also and in no way excusing our own muppet, what about all the City players having a pop. Bolloxtelli being the prime example. Invading the pitch for one thing alone, never mind spitting his dummy at the muppet.
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Post by Macmoish on May 24, 2012 7:41:19 GMT
If convicted in court, Terry's fine maximum is a couple thousand pounds.
And if the FA meets and convicts...I bet he'll get one or two matches...Maybe three.
I'd have thought attacking a ref as Di Canio did (11 games suspension) was a worse offense.
Anyone know how many games Cantona actually missed in his 8 months (which included the summer, I think)?
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Post by Zamoraaaah on May 24, 2012 7:44:23 GMT
Oh well there is a silver lining in all this. How will the FA deal with John Terry when he is found guilty? I wonder how long his ban will be? Also and in no way excusing our own muppet, what about all the City players having a pop. Bolloxtelli being the prime example. Invading the pitch for one thing alone, never mind spitting his dummy at the muppet. Barton should have gone down writhing in agony clutching his face when Kompany barged him as the FA obviously approve that type of behaiviour. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 24, 2012 8:33:15 GMT
Standard 24 May 2012 QPR are set to launch their own internal investigation after captain Joey Barton was handed a 12-match ban by the Football Association for "tarnishing the image of football" in the wake of his sending-off at Manchester City. Barton had requested a personal hearing and yesterday an independent regulatory commission found the 29-year-old guilty of two counts of violent conduct. The controversial midfielder was shown a red card at the Etihad Stadium for elbowing Carlos Tevez, and he then kicked Sergio Aguero before attempting to headbutt Vincent Kompany. The FA announced Barton received an automatic four-game suspension, with the additional eight matches a consequence of the manner of his dismissal. He was also fined £75,000. QPR will now begin their own internal inquiry into what transpired on a dramatic final day of an extraordinary Barclays Premier League campaign. Club spokesman Ian Taylor said on Twitter: "QPR will be making no comment in regard to the Joey Barton case. Internal investigation will begin in due course." Barton denied the charge of violent conduct against Kompany, but the FA said the case against the player was found to be proved. The acts were condemned by the chairman of the regulatory commission, who stated: "There are rules of conduct that should be adhered to, and such behaviour tarnishes the image of football in this country, particularly as this match was the pinnacle of the domestic season and watched by millions around the globe." The FA's regulatory panel had discretionary powers to further increase the length of the suspension if charges were found to be proven.
Barton's admission on Twitter that his violent actions were a cynical ploy to provoke a City player to be sent off saw those discretionary powers employed.Barton insisted via Twitter on the day of his sending-off that he had not lost his head, but that a team-mate "suggested I should try to take 1 of theirs with me". QPR are set for a pre-season tour of Asia in July, but it remains to be seen whether Barton, signed on a free transfer from Newcastle on a four-year deal in August 2011, will be part of Mark Hughes' squad. Speaking earlier this month, QPR chairman Tony Fernandes said: "There are experienced people who will come back to me and we'll review the whole situation. "Joey has been an integral part of the club and has played his part. "This is football, and I'm new to it. I don't profess to have all the answers." www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/now-joey-barton-faces-qpr-probe-after-he-is-slapped-with-12match-ban-by-fa-7784542.html |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on May 24, 2012 9:06:03 GMT
Whenever he is next eligible to play in an English league, whether it's next season or in 3 years time, he will have to serve his 12 match ban. As stated, I may be thick but to be eligible to play in an English League he must surely be one of the 25 selected as such which means one of your 25 players is not available for 12 games. Correct. Next time he is an English teams 25 man squad he will have to sit out the ban I think. |
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Post by eusebio13 on May 24, 2012 9:29:47 GMT
Zed I can't ever remember disagreeing with you about anything (scary really) but in this case I do. I think Barton's vilification is completely justified and pointing to the bad behaviour of other seems to me to miss the point. Here is a player whose behaviour over all of his career has consistently got himself and others into serious trouble, he has continued to use violence to express himself, he continues to be unrepentant and yet on twitter he set himself up as a judge of the behaviour of others. It is beside the point but his football contribution has not even been significant this year and I curse my own weakness that I ever gave him the benefit of the doubt. He is a man I believe should no longer be associated with our club but I fear that financial pragmatism will mean we will keep him rather than any sense of injustice for Barton. |
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Post by scubahoop on May 24, 2012 9:31:09 GMT
Can't believe some of the language and abuse given out on here about Barton - e.g. 'knob', 'prick', 'lunatic'. Lovely. In fact, Barton IS an intellectual compared to some of the people who post abusive and sanctimonious crap on here.
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