2 Yr Ago: "NEIL WARNOCK QPR JOB IN DOUBT"

[superhoopdownunder]

I believe Neil Warnock needs to be asked to leave QPR now.

In my opinion he is not a premier league manager and won't take QPR forward.

We need a high quality manager to help us stay up and remove all the dross from our squad. This is a big job as we have around 8 players who are good enough for the premier league - the rest are Championship or lower quality.

Let's invest in the right players to get us to mid table - let's build a quality scouting network, a strong youth team and develop our own players from there

[Macmoish]

On the other hand...How many Premier League Managers are there really? There are some good ones...And then a bunch who are much of a much.

I'd put Warnock in that category...If you just think back this season, an awful lot of bad luck...A few different results could easily have been....And we'd be half way up the table...And despite all the talk. We didn't splash 10 million on Crouch etc....We're just not very far away where we all thought we'd be...with these players

[londonranger]

Now warnock is saying he might have played his last match with us. this continues to destabilise the team as it has from the beginning of the season imo.

[sirpiechucker]

Jan 6, 2012 10:21:54 GMT Macmoish said:

On the other hand...How many Premier League Managers are there really? There are some good ones...And then a bunch who are much of a much.

I'd put Warnock in that category...If you just think back this season, an awful lot of bad luck...A few different results could easily have been....And we'd be half way up the table...And despite all the talk. We didn't splash 10 million on Crouch etc....We're just not very far away where we all thought we'd be...with these players

The thing with the 'Premier' league is it's a league inside a league inside a league. There are the teams so far removed from every other football club in the land i.e. City, United, Chelsea etc. Then there's the won't challenge but won't go down Aston Villa, Everton and then there's every one else. So how does anyone define a Premiership manager? Success seems to be measured by not being relegated rather than actually challenging and competing.

[RoryTheRanger]

Jan 6, 2012 13:58:35 GMT londonranger said:

Now warnock is saying he might have played his last match with us. this continues to destabilise the team as it has from the beginning of the season imo.

Where has Warnock said this??

[hitman34]

clearing the decks for the championship next season me thinks. we cant afford to be paying 60 k aweek to the likes of swp and barton.

next time we come back up, forget these big earners and stick with young and hungry, just like the swans and norwich.

[FloridaR]

warnock strikes again
www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-sport/london-qpr/2012/01/06/adel-taarabt-s-qpr-future-in-the-balance-warnock-82029-30069292/#ixzz1ifYS1EBZ

[ozhoop]

Jan 6, 2012 15:12:14 GMT hitman34 said:

clearing the decks for the championship next season me thinks. we cant afford to be paying 60 k aweek to the likes of swp and barton.

next time we come back up, forget these big earners and stick with young and hungry, just like the swans and norwich.

This one is going out to Hitman

[hitman34]

thanks but i dont need it, twit it to tony lol.

im actually looking forward to championship football.

you r'ssssssssssssssssssss


WARNOCK OUT

[kempton ranger]

The Championship is the most interesting league in Britain.

Not sure I want to rush back yet though.

[maudesfishnchips]

Jan 6, 2012 15:34:54 GMT hitman34 said:

im actually looking forward to championship football.

[Bushman]

Jan 6, 2012 16:46:26 GMT @maudesfishnchips said:

Jan 6, 2012 15:34:54 GMT hitman34 said:

im actually looking forward to championship football.

[gramps]

With all this to-ing and fro-ing, "must go", "must stay", I am getting really confused about what the majority want on this board at least. I am surprised that we have not had a straight poll on it with just those two questions. Is there a reason?

[Macmoish]

I would just say that in my view, Warnock is one of our top-Ten all time managers

[saphilip]

Granted his record is not on the same level a say a Pep or a Mourinho or a Sir Alex but NW has managed 7 teams to promotion - and in its own right that is a record worthy of a special mention.

I cannot think of many other coaches worldwide, if any, who have matched that record - far less beat it. As I say not somethiong that Ferguson would want on his CV, but there are plenty of coaches worldwide who would love to have 3 or more promotions on their CV - and here we have somebody with SEVEN.

In other words he is hardly anybody's fool when it comes to coaching.

Now we are starting to hear stories of he isn't a Premeirship coach, he has taken as far as he could ... blah, blah, blah ... and it is time for him to go.

Funny that

I heard the same story exactly 7 years ago with another coach - and it was nearly the same, i.e. this guy is a bottom 2 div coach, he has taken the club as far as he coulld ... blah, blah, dee bloody blah. Well that coach sure proved the doubtors wrong as Ian Holloway took Blackpool - everybody's favourite for relegation from the Championship - to Premiership football :- and on their budget made a decent fight of it when they got there.

Sadly football has become a quick fix sport - where coaches must deliver or else - and when you consider that only 4 or 5 teams are ikely to win trophies or play ECL Football and that 3 teams ar ealways goingt o be relegated or promoted fropm each div there s hardly much room for error - and so every season countless good managers end up on the scrapheap.

Think about it - our 2 most succesful coaches Alec Stock (over 7 years) and Terry Venables (just under 4 years) would never stand a chance in this day and age of quick results or get out demands.

Consider the facts just under 2 years ago. Make no mistake QPR were heading for relegation to League 1 and the club was a mess. In came one Neil warnock and not only did he stop the slide but less than 15 months after he took charge took us to the Championship title. Surely he deserved a chance to maange us in ther Premiership? After all a month ago hardly anybody was calling for his head - so has he become a crap coach in 5 weeks?

I think we need to face reality here - many of us I assume were all expecting us to be near the bottom rather than the top - and surely all of us realised that our aim was to finish outside the bottom 4 - and the implications that goes with that.

The bookies went one better - they had aus as firm favourites for the drop. Pundits and casual fans agreed with that as well. Why?

Because they didn't like Neil Warnock or QPR? Possibly they do not like us but those guys are in the business to make money and they knew that thanks to the delays in the takeover of QPR we were never going to have enough time to get the players that we needed for us to do well in this div. While we sat around twiddling our thumbs on non existent funds, Norwich, Swansea and the like got cracking and added players - and the bookies knew that - amd to be honest, so did I.

The tiome given to NW to buy players was never goibng to be enough - and by then the best palyers on everybody's list had long been bought.

So we get rid of him - so who do we replace him with? Why a Premeirship Coach I hear people say. Well who are they because surely those "Premiership Coaches" are without a job for a reason? Those that do jobs are hardly likey to resign their position to take over QPR either. In addition if we do go down will that same "Premeirship Coach" have the know how to get us promoted again?

And consider this. This is not the first time that people have rexpressed doubts that NW had taken the club as far as he could once he got them promoted. Many of the clubs that he was in charge of are in a considerably worse posistion than when they were when he left them.

Be careful what you wish for - because while I believe NW is hardly perfect he is by no means the worst coach ever to be in charge of QPR. And we always seem to make a habit of replacing a very good coach with a truly bad one (the only exception that I can think of is Dave Sexton replacing Gordon Jago).

And those peopl who are demanding that TF release the purse strings - again be careful what you wish for. I'm sure QPR can survive a relegation - it might not survive mad spending ina desperate gamble to keep us up.

[saphilip]

Of course he has managed 6 team to 7 promotions - Sacrborough, Notts County, Huddersfield, Plymouth (x2), Sheffield United & QPR.

[ozhoop]

BIG SAM ..
LOL not really (shudders)
Good post mate..

[cpr]

SAphilip - Post of the Year 2012 and no mistake.

The one above your last one that is.

[cpr]

In fact, I'm going to steal it, claim it as my own and send it as an email to Mr Fernandes. ;D

[saphilip]

Just clear up the spelling errors before you do

[Macmoish]

Very well put, Saphilip

You've convinced me

[obk]

Pretty sure we are going down, with or without Warnock. Our run in is just too tough and I think we should probably have 10 points more at this time to stand a good chance.

As for Warnock, I think we have a decent first 11, but as soon as just one of those players is injured or suspended you can see we are in trouble. Therefore if we are sacking Warnock it should only be for a long termsolution and with the understanding that we will most likely play in the Championship again next season.

[scarletpimple]

Warnock has worked wonders for this club, such a shame that some fans seemed to have chosen to forget that, or just dont care.

[eusebio13]

Jan 6, 2012 17:29:42 GMT saphilip said:

Granted his record is not on the same level a say a Pep or a Mourinho or a Sir Alex but NW has managed 7 teams to promotion - and in its own right that is a record worthy of a special mention.

I cannot think of many other coaches worldwide, if any, who have matched that record - far less beat it. As I say not somethiong that Ferguson would want on his CV, but there are plenty of coaches worldwide who would love to have 3 or more promotions on their CV - and here we have somebody with SEVEN.

In other words he is hardly anybody's fool when it comes to coaching.

Now we are starting to hear stories of he isn't a Premeirship coach, he has taken as far as he could ... blah, blah, blah ... and it is time for him to go.

Funny that

I heard the same story exactly 7 years ago with another coach - and it was nearly the same, i.e. this guy is a bottom 2 div coach, he has taken the club as far as he coulld ... blah, blah, dee bloody blah. Well that coach sure proved the doubtors wrong as Ian Holloway took Blackpool - everybody's favourite for relegation from the Championship - to Premiership football :- and on their budget made a decent fight of it when they got there.

Sadly football has become a quick fix sport - where coaches must deliver or else - and when you consider that only 4 or 5 teams are ikely to win trophies or play ECL Football and that 3 teams ar ealways goingt o be relegated or promoted fropm each div there s hardly much room for error - and so every season countless good managers end up on the scrapheap.

Think about it - our 2 most succesful coaches Alec Stock (over 7 years) and Terry Venables (just under 4 years) would never stand a chance in this day and age of quick results or get out demands.

Consider the facts just under 2 years ago. Make no mistake QPR were heading for relegation to League 1 and the club was a mess. In came one Neil warnock and not only did he stop the slide but less than 15 months after he took charge took us to the Championship title. Surely he deserved a chance to maange us in ther Premiership? After all a month ago hardly anybody was calling for his head - so has he become a crap coach in 5 weeks?

I think we need to face reality here - many of us I assume were all expecting us to be near the bottom rather than the top - and surely all of us realised that our aim was to finish outside the bottom 4 - and the implications that goes with that.

The bookies went one better - they had aus as firm favourites for the drop. Pundits and casual fans agreed with that as well. Why?

Because they didn't like Neil Warnock or QPR? Possibly they do not like us but those guys are in the business to make money and they knew that thanks to the delays in the takeover of QPR we were never going to have enough time to get the players that we needed for us to do well in this div. While we sat around twiddling our thumbs on non existent funds, Norwich, Swansea and the like got cracking and added players - and the bookies knew that - amd to be honest, so did I.

The tiome given to NW to buy players was never goibng to be enough - and by then the best palyers on everybody's list had long been bought.

So we get rid of him - so who do we replace him with? Why a Premeirship Coach I hear people say. Well who are they because surely those "Premiership Coaches" are without a job for a reason? Those that do jobs are hardly likey to resign their position to take over QPR either. In addition if we do go down will that same "Premeirship Coach" have the know how to get us promoted again?

And consider this. This is not the first time that people have rexpressed doubts that NW had taken the club as far as he could once he got them promoted. Many of the clubs that he was in charge of are in a considerably worse posistion than when they were when he left them.

Be careful what you wish for - because while I believe NW is hardly perfect he is by no means the worst coach ever to be in charge of QPR. And we always seem to make a habit of replacing a very good coach with a truly bad one (the only exception that I can think of is Dave Sexton replacing Gordon Jago).

And those peopl who are demanding that TF release the purse strings - again be careful what you wish for. I'm sure QPR can survive a relegation - it might not survive mad spending ina desperate gamble to keep us up.

CPR you were right this is much better than yours ;D

[harlowranger]

Mirror
.QPR chief tweets Warnock sack warning



QPR owner Tony Fernandes has used Twitter to warn manager Neil Warnock that his job is not safe.

Rangers, last season’s Championship winners, have slipped down to 17th place after a run of eight Premier League games without a win.

And Malaysian tycoon Fernandes chose to tweet (above) on Friday: “It’s important to note no one’s job is safe. Results are key. If I don’t deliver I would be the first to step down as chairman. We owe it to all the fans.

“We are disappointed about where we are in the league. This is a journey, not a sprint.

“Along the way we learn. But we continue to develop and along the way hard decisions need to be made. But we never stop moving. Never.”

Warnock has been promised money to spend in the transfer window and, asked about his position on Thursday, said: “I think there is pressure on every manager. It is a results business.

“I think that every manager will tell you the same – you don’t like not winning games.

“I think the management have known for weeks and months where – in certain areas – I don’t think we are good enough.”

[cpr]

H, I think we've done that one on the Fernandes tweets thread.

Eus, toldja ;D

You may have noticed, I quite liked it as well.

[maudesfishnchips]

its the first press one that has picked up on the sacking.

[londonranger]

SKY

PR chairman Tony Fernandes insists no job is safe at Loftus Road, including his own, amid speculation Neil Warnock's future at the club is uncertain.

The Malaysian business tycoon took over the Premier League newcomers in August and provided the financial clout for manager Warnock to bring in a host of players.

Reports on Thursday suggested Fernandes was ready to block such spending this January due to reservations over whether Warnock is the right man for QPR.

The AirAsia chief executive used Twitter on Friday to tell fans to ignore the speculation, although he did admit only success will keep people in their job.

"Guys at QPR, there is no freeze of cash. Don't listen to ambiguous press reports," he said. "We are disappointed where we are in the league.

"This is a journey not a sprint. Along the way we learn.

"But we continue to develop and along the way hard decisions need to be made. But we never stop moving. Never.

Results

"It's important to note no one job is safe. Results are key.

"If I don't deliver I would be the first to step down as chairman.

"We owe it to all the fans. Good money is paid and results are key.

"I will leave no stone unturned to make QPR a success. But if I fail I have to go. I will give it 150 percent effort."

Barclays Premier League To Stay Up 11/12 Win Outright: Q.P.R. 4/11

[cpr]

Jan 6, 2012 22:35:03 GMT @maudesfishnchips said:

its the first press one that has picked up on the sacking.

Can't help it if they are slow, mentioned on the tweet thread, as I said.

[Macmoish]

And if Fernandes didn't intend this to refer to Warnock, then he should get his tweets pre-approved!