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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2012 10:48:17 GMT
A slightly different spin from the Mail...We'll see who we actually do sign after all the talk and rumours MAIL
QPR owner puts brake on spending as poor run increases pressure on manager Warnock
By Sportsmail Reporter 5th January 2012 Queens Park Rangers manager Neil Warnock has been left sweating on his £20million January war chest after the club’s dismal run. Having already captured high-profile signings such as Joey Barton, Anton Ferdinand, Shaun Wright-Phillips and Luke Young in the summer, Warnock was due to spend heavily again this month. Feeling the pressure, Neil? QPR boss Warnock But the QPR manager may have to rein in his January spending plan with co-owner Tony Fernandes fearful another splurge could have disastrous consequences should the club fail to avoid relegation. And Sportsmail understands Fernandes is keen for Warnock to explore the loan market for suitable signings rather than pinpoint big-money targets, with Wayne Bridge his first target. Warnock has already completed the loan capture of Federico Macheda from Manchester United. However, Fernandes will be tempted to splash the cash should a ‘marquee’ signing he considers obtainable become available. Big names on Warnock’s list include Jermain Defoe, Darren Bent, Bobby Zamora and Chris Samba.
Fernandes is fully aware that lumbering the club with a massive wage bill would have serious implications if they were to be relegated.QPR are on a dreadful of run, having picked up just five points from a possible 30 - a sequence that has left them just two points above the drop zone.
It is understood that Warnock’s job is not under any immediate danger but Fernandes could be forced to act if results do not improve.www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2082553/QPR-owner-puts-brake-spending-Neil-Warnock-fears-increase.html#ixzz1iZzmyko9 |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2012 10:49:37 GMT
And Official Site today
GAFFER WANTS 'QUICK BUSINESS'Posted on: Thu 05 Jan 2012 Neil Warnock is hoping to get his transfer business done 'as quickly as possible,' as rumours continue to circulate about who he is hoping to bring to the Club in the January window. Speaking exclusively to www.qpr.co.uk, the R's gaffer revealed he is hoping to tie up his deals by the time QPR travel to Newcastle United in ten days time. "We're working very hard behind the scenes - and we want players in before Newcastle," he said. "We've got options in a number of positions - but they're never over the line until the ink has dried on the contract. "We've got so many targets, but I won't talk about specific players. "We need experience in certain positions and we also need goals from all departments. "I've had a lot of meetings over the last few days, but there's nothing more to announce at the moment." He added: "I think it's important to get our business done as quickly as possible. "Ideally we'd have liked to have done it all in August, but the circumstances didn't allow it back then. "I don't want it to all rest on the last day again, like it did in the summer window." www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2566843,00.html
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 5, 2012 11:15:17 GMT
well done tony, save your money as we are going down and you will have to subsidise us for the next five years. bye bye waaaarnock  |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2012 11:18:46 GMT
I think that at the VERY minimum, whatever one feels about whether Warnock should stay or go, that Warnock should be treated with respect and gratitude - rather than yesterday's newspaper, to be disparaged.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:22:12 GMT
Wrong time to bring in a new a manager? Martin oneil hasnt done too bad!!! O'Neil is an exceptional candidate and Sunderland had a very specific attraction to him....I don't see anyone who fits that criteria for us. |
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 5, 2012 11:27:07 GMT
If we dont actually sign anyone in the next day or 2 i think it says it all...assuming its not just because players went to other clubs over us. Im surprised that we've not signed anyone else as NW wanted 4 before newcastle game and things seem to have gone a little quiet since macheda came in...i expected several big names in and faster than this.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 5, 2012 11:28:44 GMT
Wrong time to bring in a new a manager? Martin oneil hasnt done too bad!!! O'Neil is an exceptional candidate and Sunderland had a very specific attraction to him....I don't see anyone who fits that criteria for us. And also in that case O'Neill was brought in about a month ago and has had time to get to know the squad and work out where needs improving in this transfer window. Any new manager we may bring in wouldn't get that and would most likely panic buy at the end of the transfer window. |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2012 11:29:06 GMT
If - IF - there was a replacement standby like we had with a superstar Terry Venables "definitely" coming from Crystal Palace/and a proven failure such as "The Doc" on his way out - perhaps a stronger case could be made. But right now it's "Warnock Out..." There must be somebody better, etc. A case can be made for Warnock out. But a strong case can be made for Warnock in.... We could very easily have won the Norwich game...at minimum drawn the Sunderland game, and so on...If our strikers had not missed. Our defenders not screwed, we'd have another 10-12 points, and Warnock would be GOD in peoples' eyes.
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 5, 2012 13:16:57 GMT
I actually think we'll go down. But I'm still sticking with Warnock! Its the 5th of January and there's still nearly a month left for a new manager & coach to turn the team around and get a few faces in .... Why are you giving up so easily !!!  |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 5, 2012 13:19:04 GMT
Name a manager who could come and immediately make everything better. I can't so please make some suggestions. It's all good and easy saying 'Warnock out' and that a new manager has plenty of time but when you can't name someone who could do the job it's pretty pointless.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 5, 2012 13:21:37 GMT
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 5, 2012 13:40:24 GMT
Name a manager who could come and immediately make everything better. I can't so please make some suggestions. It's all good and easy saying 'Warnock out' and that a new manager has plenty of time but when you can't name someone who could do the job it's pretty pointless. This guy would keep us up ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Ben%C3%ADtez |
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 5, 2012 13:41:21 GMT
Good article ... Warnocks style is not suited to the premier. |
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 5, 2012 14:26:06 GMT
this is what some of us have been saying for months, i dont disrespect the guy but at the same time he is not cut out of this league. that artical says it all.
i support qpr NOT neil warnock fc
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Post by sirpiechucker on Jan 5, 2012 14:34:45 GMT
Good article ... Warnocks style is not suited to the premier. How is Warnock's style that different to say Stoke's? |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 5, 2012 14:48:36 GMT
Stoke play with two up front!  |
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Post by cpr on Jan 5, 2012 14:50:11 GMT
Wrong time to bring in a new a manager? Martin oneil hasnt done too bad!!! Thus confirming now would be wrong time, then was the right time. |
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 5, 2012 14:51:19 GMT
i support qpr NOT neil warnock fc And how is supporting our manager and honouring his contract off the back of the amazing job he has done to get us here, detrimental to QPR? Because we might get relegated? If that's all there is, then it's obvious you support the status of us being a Premiership club more than anything else. Haven't you got an actual argument or just little irrelevant imaginary comparisons between yourself and those that disagree with you? |
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Post by sirpiechucker on Jan 5, 2012 15:01:20 GMT
Stoke play with two up front! 1-0 to lonegunmen!  |
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Post by sirpiechucker on Jan 5, 2012 15:05:22 GMT
I'll be disappointed as much as the next man if we get relegated but after so many years and so many failures I'm quite prepared to back Warnock as it was him who got us here. How many others failed with Taraabt. How many others would have been able to sign Kenny. How many others would have got Derry, Hill and Helguson playing they way they did. My signature still lists a vast number of players who were signed under FB and BE and many managers couldn't get the best out of these players.
Warnock deserves his opportunity. We're only a Premiership team because of him. Unless someone seriously thinks that a) another manager would have built a team round Taraabt and got the best out of him and b) we could have ever attracted a manager better than him at the time.
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Post by nomar on Jan 5, 2012 15:14:40 GMT
We're also in the Prem because of players like Gorkks, Orr, Derry and Agyemang, but you also recognized when we came up that they weren't good enough at this level.
Why do you assume then that the same standard can't be equally applied to a manager?
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 5, 2012 15:21:11 GMT
We're also in the Prem because of players like Gorkks, Orr, Derry and Agyemang, but you also recognized when we came up that they weren't good enough at this level. Why do you assume then that the same standard can't be equally applied to a manager? You were doing alright up until you wrote Agyemang.  ;D |
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Post by sirpiechucker on Jan 5, 2012 17:02:41 GMT
We're also in the Prem because of players like Gorkks, Orr, Derry and Agyemang, but you also recognized when we came up that they weren't good enough at this level. Why do you assume then that the same standard can't be equally applied to a manager? But who got the best out of those players? Who was it that succeeded with Gorkss where other had failed? The likes of Lambert and Rogers arguably weren't of a Premiership standard because they had never managed but playing and managing is completely different. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 23:45:46 GMT
rush buys and a fighting chance ... Looks like we will go down! Do we throw money at journeyman and change management to realise our overacheivemdnt last year meant we needed a new team and not a few names we heard onmatch of the day! Stability and investment in potential and not getting others cast offs. West brom as model ... Nit those down the road , didn't say name as hate to swear lol
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Post by nomar on Jan 6, 2012 0:45:38 GMT
We're also in the Prem because of players like Gorkks, Orr, Derry and Agyemang, but you also recognized when we came up that they weren't good enough at this level. Why do you assume then that the same standard can't be equally applied to a manager? But who got the best out of those players? Who was it that succeeded with Gorkss where other had failed? The likes of Lambert and Rogers arguably weren't of a Premiership standard because they had never managed but playing and managing is completely different. Taarabt pretty much was the reason why we went up last season and the rest of the Championship knew it too. Without him we would maybe have broken into the top 6. If anyone gets credit for us being here I give it to Taarabt first and foremost. That said, Warnock is an excellent Championship manager. I've never said he wasn't. However, I do not think he is a capable Premier League manager. And that's a helluva big difference there, my friend. |
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Post by londonranger on Jan 6, 2012 0:52:56 GMT
No no no no Sir Pie. He was a prize prospect at Blackpool and we stole him for a slight fee which was heavily contested by them. Hall tho was the man side stewpea on direction from the Triumvirate. Once Dowie was told to bugger off, Sousa inserted gorkssy and his bandage alongside and with two good backs gave us a succession of clean sheets and low score draws, that Cerny won best keeper. Sousa built the defence, then went to the midfield, remember we were Queens Park midfield, sadly these were the triumvirates magic feet from the Italian and Spanish fringes. The rest is burton-dixie. (Burton dixie is an American mattress company. I wanted us to build the defence first with almost all the money in Aug. If they dont score we have a chance for a result. Sousa knew that but he dared to tell His Nibs that his fly was open (kiss of death)  |
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 6, 2012 6:30:20 GMT
I hope we dont sack NW.The timing is completely wrong.One thing tho I've always been wary/unconvinced about this 'security blanket' of the Jan spending spree.
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Post by ozhoop on Jan 6, 2012 7:29:39 GMT
But who got the best out of those players? Who was it that succeeded with Gorkss where other had failed? The likes of Lambert and Rogers arguably weren't of a Premiership standard because they had never managed but playing and managing is completely different. Taarabt pretty much was the reason why we went up last season and the rest of the Championship knew it too. Without him we would maybe have broken into the top 6. If anyone gets credit for us being here I give it to Taarabt first and foremost. That said, Warnock is an excellent Championship manager. I've never said he wasn't. However, I do not think he is a capable Premier League manager. And that's a helluva big difference there, my friend. This is spot on.And I'd go as far as saying Taarabt staying is tantamount to us staying up (puts on tin hat and waits for barrarge). I recon they both will stay and keep us up .just.Then both go their seperate ways away from us. |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 6, 2012 9:26:40 GMT
But who got the best out of those players? Who was it that succeeded with Gorkss where other had failed? The likes of Lambert and Rogers arguably weren't of a Premiership standard because they had never managed but playing and managing is completely different. Taarabt pretty much was the reason why we went up last season and the rest of the Championship knew it too. Without him we would maybe have broken into the top 6. If anyone gets credit for us being here I give it to Taarabt first and foremost. That said, Warnock is an excellent Championship manager. I've never said he wasn't. However, I do not think he is a capable Premier League manager. And that's a helluva big difference there, my friend. Yes but who was it who put up with Taarabt and built the team around him?? Taarabt wouldn't have been as good as he was last season without Warnock. |
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 6, 2012 9:58:28 GMT
Either way we need taarabt AND nw to both start doing their respective jobs, im not sure we'll see adel again now which would be a terrible shame but if he does come back (and with all due respect to morroco hopefully it'll be really soon) i think he could be the difference for us...if he has a good couple of games in africa and helps him find his scoring boots again too, all the better!
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