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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 14:49:11 GMT
is it now time to question warnock's tacticial ability at premiership level?
also would like to question the 60 - 80 thousand pound aweek "superstars" that we have at the club.
barton all mouth and no game?
wright philips all pace and no control or crossing?
bothroyd all heading but no heart?
warnock all free roll but no structer or balance in the team?
what do you guys think?
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Post by charqpr on Oct 2, 2011 15:03:42 GMT
looks poor right now, i think players stared to believe own hype i also think you a bit right other teams have watched us and have figured us out need to play much better second half to try and set us up for rest of season, to many halfs like this and were ve in the bottom 3 talk all season. wonder what barton will say about taht
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:07:17 GMT
I think it is stupid fans are already questioning Warnock's position. I knew this would happen but I didn't think it would be after only 2 losses.
Unbelievable really.
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Post by charqpr on Oct 2, 2011 15:07:19 GMT
warnock changed it let see how it effects team, i kind of feel you cant stick with taarabt if he not producing there only certain amount of time you can give anyone
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:13:24 GMT
no, three losses. won 2 in 7 with 5 goals (1 owngoal) with our top goalscorers on 1.
Furthermore i am not questioning his position at the club, im questioning his tactical ability at premiership level.
instead of saying "I knew this would happen" why dont you point out your position on this matter.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:16:37 GMT
No 2 losses, have we lost this match yet?? No I didn't think so.
My position on this matter is Warnock must stay. Warnock signed all these great players like SWP and Barton and they joined because of him. He has more than proved he deserves to be QPR manager in the Prem.
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:17:17 GMT
being ripped apart with this same shitty free rolling system.
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:19:14 GMT
4 nil. great players barton swp? where have they been for the past three games?  last time i saw them they were in birmingham playing against wolves. not seen them on the pitch since. |
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:20:45 GMT
Well that Wolves match was in the last 3 games so get your facts straight.  I didn't think any fan would turn on Warnock so quickly. |
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:21:13 GMT
they joined qpr because of the £60-80,000 aweek they are getting. not because of warnock. lol
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:22:50 GMT
so silly rory tut tut, so silly. we played wolves,newcastle,villa,and now fulham so that is for matches.
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:24:01 GMT
5 nil. yep, we have great players dont we. 5-0 but dont worry, rory says the game is not over yet.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:25:31 GMT
so silly rory tut tut, so silly. we played wolves,newcastle,villa,and now fulham so that is for matches. Newcastle was before Wolves  |
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:27:23 GMT
but you think the tactics are right rory? your in full support of warnocks system?
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:27:47 GMT
5 nil. yep, we have great players dont we. 5-0 but dont worry, rory says the game is not over yet. Oh dear, please grow up. Every team has very bad days, this is ours. Look at how well we played against better teams than Foolham like Villa and Newcastle. You didn't see Liverpool fans wanting Dalglish out after losing 4-0 to Spurs or Arsenal fans wanting Arsene out after losing 8-2 to Utd did you?? No. Seriously, just grow up. |
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:30:08 GMT
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:32:27 GMT
Warnock's system is irrelevant if the players are having a sh*te day.
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:32:43 GMT
losing 4-0 to tott is one thing but losing 6 or maybe more to a team that has not won a league game this season is unacceptable in my opinion.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:35:06 GMT
Seeing as though Warnocks 'system' worked against Wolves, Everton, Newcastle and Villa I would say it's working fine.
I will not reply again on this thread because I don't think I will be able to keep this calm.
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Post by pelboy on Oct 2, 2011 15:36:23 GMT
Don't forget we had two defenders out. This must have made you think about our ability to compete. I live in Liverpool and speaking to the lads up here they all said that Fulham is a tough place to go and get a result. Don't blame Warnock, he plays as he sees the game but the same lads up in Liverpool said they didn't think Warnock was the right man for the job. I'll stand by Warnock basically for the promotion and entry to the Premiership.......I think taking Derry off was a mistake. Was he injured? We have won many games six nil and laughed at the other side. Keep the faith and stop popping at each other fellas.
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Post by hitman34 on Oct 2, 2011 15:38:19 GMT
everyone seems to slag off norwich but they play with out and out wingers and a good 4-4-2 formation with hungry and young players who are giving it their best shot week in and week out. what we have is a bunch of pre madonas on £40- £50-£60.000 aweek who are just happy to pick up the pay check. the team that beat everton this season was very limited on premiership talent but they kept fighting and hanging on. even when they lost to bolton 4-0 they kept battling. id rather support that team week in and week out rather than this lot nowhere to be seen second half against villa and wolves, nowhere to be seen atall today.
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Post by gibraltar on Oct 2, 2011 15:40:47 GMT
i would say that at 3-0 down, 3 attacking changes is a little ridiculous.
smith, dj, and mackie.
now it's 6-0.
i dont think we should get rid of warnock yet, as i have liked our style of play up until now, and we have unfortunately had djc out ill. however on this game he has gotten it wrong.
we needed to try keep the score down, not try to match their goals.
at 3-0 down this was never a match we were gonna get a point from.
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Post by nomar on Oct 2, 2011 15:40:59 GMT
Rory, even Norwich and Swansea don't get spanked like this against mid table teams.
This team played on Thursday and they're killing us 6-0. Its inexcusable.
Bothroyd is killing this team. No confidence and his first touch in the box today has been abysmal. I called for dropping him 2 games ago or playing a 4-4-2 but everyone on here was adamant to keep the same old 4-2-3-1 system.
Still want to start with Bothroyd and play that system now?
I'm ashamed and disgusted of this performance today.
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Post by tom007 on Oct 2, 2011 15:41:54 GMT
hi guys no i dont think warnock out yet but i also do not blame the new players we have so forget the 80 odd thousand a week you are complaining about.
the fact is the system is seriously flawed. there should be no more than one player with a free role but it appears 2-3 players are playing this role.
against inferior teams this may work but not in the premiere league.
this worked for a couple of games because teams did not expect it but it is all too predictable now like watching an England team playing a top 10 side always coming up short.
we play with in effect 1 up front and yet that is where our apparent strength is when you look at our bench it is all strikers sitting there so that does not make sense to be honest.
but to lose as many goals as we have in the first 7 matches is grim indeed.
we need structure players given proper roles not told to do as you like.
trying to keep everyone happy by allowing them to do as they like instead of telling them what to do.
all i will say is it is a bit like watching sheff.utd the last time they were in the premiership so warnock has to change his way of playing if he is to keep his job.
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Post by Jo-Onenil on Oct 2, 2011 15:41:58 GMT
I don't think it's Warnock's fault. I think it's a collective horrible performance from Everyone, from Kenny to Bothroyd, from Warnock to Curle, from Orr to Barton. Everyone has to settle down and realise that this is unacceptable. If the players had been good, we wouldnt have lost 6+ - 0 whatever tactics there would be. We were bad all over the park. Only the fans were decent. Now thats three points lost. We move on and we have to beat Blackburn Rovers. We struggled against the weaker sides so far...
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Post by pelboy on Oct 2, 2011 15:43:19 GMT
Qpr lads are still singing on the radio...keeping the faith
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Post by tom007 on Oct 2, 2011 15:44:06 GMT
th trouble is if we dont score we are not going to win and continuously starting with 1 up front does not make sense when you cannot score goals.?
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Oct 2, 2011 15:44:28 GMT
Rory, even Norwich and Swansea don't get spanked like this against mid table teams. This team played on Thursday and they're killing us 6-0. Its inexcusable. Bothroyd is killing this team. No confidence and his first touch in the box today has been abysmal. I called for dropping him 2 games ago or playing a 4-4-2 but everyone on here was adamant to keep the same old 4-2-3-1 system. Still want to start with Bothroyd and play that system now? I'm ashamed and disgusted of this performance today. Trust me, I'm fuming as well and no I don't think we should start with Bothroyd, we should start DJ. You say neither Swansea or Norwich have lost 6-0 to mid table teams and they probably won't but they will get spanked by quite a few teams this season. I just say let Neil get on with it, we have a two week break now to work on the Blackburn match. |
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Post by gibraltar on Oct 2, 2011 15:44:40 GMT
Rory, even Norwich and Swansea don't get spanked like this against mid table teams. This team played on Thursday and they're killing us 6-0. Its inexcusable. Bothroyd is killing this team. No confidence and his first touch in the box today has been abysmal. I called for dropping him 2 games ago or playing a 4-4-2 but everyone on here was adamant to keep the same old 4-2-3-1 system. Still want to start with Bothroyd and play that system now? I'm ashamed and disgusted of this performance today. [ ] everyone on here [x] some people on here |
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Post by nomar on Oct 2, 2011 15:50:15 GMT
Not looking forward to going into work tomorrow.
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last time i saw them they were in birmingham playing against wolves. not seen them on the pitch since.
