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Post by Bushman on Mar 10, 2011 13:50:13 GMT
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Post by haqpr1963 on Mar 10, 2011 13:57:02 GMT
Good old Jonesy.... I have to say, for someone who lives in a cardboard box he seems to be very well informed and has bloody better internet access than me (thanks BT)...... |
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 10, 2011 14:00:44 GMT
If QPR did something "illegal" obviously should be a change at QPR
If QPR made a technical error, did something incompetent, slipshod, obviously should be a change at QPR
And where that change should be is so self-evident to almost everyone.
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 14:21:13 GMT
Good old Jonesy.... I have to say, for someone who lives in a cardboard box he seems to be very well informed and has bloody better internet access than me (thanks BT)...... On the way to the Ipshit game I saw him under the Chiswick flyover, it's some setup he has there. ;D |
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 14:30:03 GMT
Good old Jonesy.... I have to say, for someone who lives in a cardboard box he seems to be very well informed and has bloody better internet access than me (thanks BT)...... On the way to the Ipshit game I saw him under the Chiswick flyover, it's some setup he has there. ;D ;D |
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Post by Bushman on Mar 10, 2011 14:30:06 GMT
Good old Jonesy.... I have to say, for someone who lives in a cardboard box he seems to be very well informed and has bloody better internet access than me (thanks BT)...... On the way to the Ipshit game I saw him under the Chiswick flyover, it's some setup he has there. ;D No shortage of pigeons for grub. |
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Post by The Scooter on Mar 10, 2011 14:40:08 GMT
Jones' blog has so many factually inaccurate pieces in it, it's not worth the bandwidth it's written on.
Charges don't relate to 2009, they relate to this season. Paladini himself (as an individual) has been charged with a number of breaches and irregularities. I have no idea if the club receive punishment for anything GP has done in that respect.
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 14:54:14 GMT
So the illegal agent turns out to be perfectly legitimate.
Not like the FA to cock up is it?
Like I said, in a court case we could bankrupt them if we chose! ;D
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Post by isleworthranger on Mar 10, 2011 14:59:51 GMT
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:00:44 GMT
So the illegal agent turns out to be perfectly legitimate. Not like the FA to cock up is it? Like I said, in a court case we could bankrupt them if we chose! ;D Has Paladini acted like an Agent though ? That would make him illegal in the transfer and the club would also be at fault. |
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 15:03:30 GMT
Certainly is, if it's true of course.  |
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 15:05:18 GMT
So the illegal agent turns out to be perfectly legitimate. Not like the FA to cock up is it? Like I said, in a court case we could bankrupt them if we chose! ;D Has Paladini acted like an Agent though ? That would make him illegal in the transfer and the club would also be at fault. Paladini would be an angent, an agent of QPR FC shirley?  He wouldn't be named by the FA if he was not involved in the deal would he? |
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:08:43 GMT
Sorry ... Still trying to grasp things here...So let me ask
Was there another party to the transaction that has placed a complaint about collusion or being unfairly treated in bidding for the player ?
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 15:11:07 GMT
Gawd knows Florida, the FA statement is hardly explicit and they haven't even listed the seven charges!  |
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Post by isleworthranger on Mar 10, 2011 15:13:51 GMT
Sorry ... Still trying to grasp things here...So let me ask Was there another party to the transaction that has placed a complaint about collusion or being unfairly treated in bidding for the player ? I`m losing track at the moment but judging by the slighter better mood around the boards it is looking far better for us then it was last night |
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:14:07 GMT
Noticed that bud but there are so many ' sauces ' on here ...
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Post by The Scooter on Mar 10, 2011 15:16:29 GMT
Can I just point out that a FIFA licenced agent is not necessarily a FA licenced agent.
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 10, 2011 15:17:06 GMT
Would love to see a log for all phonecalls, emails and conversations Gianni may have made over the past 24 hours
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:18:12 GMT
Was thinking that if it is ethic based then its a bit of 'he said, she said'. ... things might not be so bad & hard to prove ...
If paperwork and contract is fully in order and no cause for complaint, that would be a blessing : )
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Post by isleworthranger on Mar 10, 2011 15:19:12 GMT
Can I just point out that a FIFA licenced agent is not necessarily a FA licenced agent. Just read that the agent also represents Gareth Bale so hopefully that makes him an FA licenced one as well |
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:21:05 GMT
Would love to see a log for all phonecalls, emails and conversations Gianni may have made over the past 24 hours LOL foi  |
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Post by FloridaR on Mar 10, 2011 15:23:18 GMT
Sounds like there are 1 too many connections with regards to who gets a cut from the pie in this transaction...
I think its a lesser ethic based complaint and no points deduction : )
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Post by Macmoish on Mar 10, 2011 15:27:20 GMT
I would have thought that before bringing charges, the FA would have been in dialogue with QPR and would have sought answers to specific questions (such as were layed out in the charges.)
I would assume that QPR would have provided answers.
I would assume that the FA were not satisfied with those answers
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Post by Bushman on Mar 10, 2011 15:29:17 GMT
Can I just point out that a FIFA licenced agent is not necessarily a FA licenced agent. Just read that the agent also represents Gareth Bale so hopefully that makes him an FA licenced one as well "An interview with Il Sussidiario suggested Peppino Tirri was making a very clear outline of the situation, but he told Calciomercato.it that. "I was speaking as a FIFA agent who is very active in England, but I no longer represent Bale and haven't worked with his agency for months" |
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Post by cpr on Mar 10, 2011 15:30:40 GMT
I would assume the FA to be dimwits, like they always are.
Good to read that Bale has an illegal agent! ;D
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Post by Bushman on Mar 10, 2011 15:49:52 GMT
Peppino Tirri is on the FA agents list as an independent and overseas agent. Reg No. ROAT 1080
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Post by The Scooter on Mar 10, 2011 15:49:53 GMT
Can I just point out that a FIFA licenced agent is not necessarily a FA licenced agent. Just read that the agent also represents Gareth Bale so hopefully that makes him an FA licenced one as well Yep - had a look on the FA register. He's there and up to date. All very strange. |
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Post by Bushman on Mar 10, 2011 16:11:39 GMT
From FIFA'S SITE "Players' agents have not been licensed by FIFA since 2001. Players' agents are licensed directly by each association. Therefore, there is no such thing as a FIFA players' agent. The following list refers to the players' agents who have obtained a license from the respective and competent member association. " Peppino Tirri appears on the FIFA list of agents that he can operate within the Italian FA, but he does not show up in the FIFA list that can operate within the English FA. Then according to The FA agents list: Peppino Tirri is on the FA agents list as an independent and overseas agent. Reg No. ROAT 1080 Confused |
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Post by rangerray on Mar 10, 2011 16:55:30 GMT
Given where we are in the season and that the FA have been unhappy since January I think that rather than have QPR apealling against any point deductions (which I'm sure they would) the FA will be pragmatic and fine the club. Whilst both sides might not be happy it would at least settle the matter.
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Post by rich2644 on Mar 10, 2011 17:23:38 GMT
Given where we are in the season and that the FA have been unhappy since January I think that rather than have QPR apealling against any point deductions (which I'm sure they would) the FA will be pragmatic and fine the club. Whilst both sides might not be happy it would at least settle the matter. Not a chance I'm affraid. Lies, more lies and illegal payments to agents. No way will this end up in a fine. Luton Town got 10 points deduction and i think you'll get the same. It's a shame for the innocent fans but don't kid yourselves that you're going to get away with a fine for this. |
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