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Post by terryloftus on Apr 18, 2010 22:11:05 GMT
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 18, 2010 22:15:23 GMT
I LOVE Rodney Marsh...and I LOVE Stan Bowles.
Rodney Marsh is a moderator of this site.
He's every QPR old timer's hero - including very much me: The one QPR man I'd most like to meet
I was at Loftus Road for Marsh's last QPR game...And i was at Loftus Road for Bowles first QPR game. (In fact I was at Loftus Road for when Bowles was playing for Carlisle at QPR)
But an objective assessment of Marsh vs Bowles finds pluses and minuses for both.
Bowles played for QPR at the highest levels...
Marsh played almost all his QPR time in the lower divisions
Marsh was THE star of the QPR Team...Bowles was one of a number of England Internationals.
But I saw Marsh in games when he was totally controlled or whatever reason didn't feel like playing...I didn't see that with Bowles
And as for tackling: I saw Bowles tackle. I'm not sure I saw that with Marsh.
Now I'm certainly not saying Bowles was better than Marsh.
I'm not saying Rodney wasnt ROD..NEE.
I'm remember being totally devestated when Marsh was sold to Manchester City in that sad March 1972 TRansfer Deadline day
But having Rodney Marsh in the team meant the team played around MArsh...It was notable that after selling Marsh we went 21 games undefeated. Now that's impressive
ANd I could find flaws with Bowles too: Too temperamental; too many transfer requests; etc, etc.
But basically QPR were blessed from 1966-1979 with having two geniuses playing for them. And it says so much about England team selection that they got so few games between them.
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Post by terryloftus on Apr 18, 2010 22:33:42 GMT
 I agree with you. But Rodney played at the very highest level at Fulham before QPR & Man City after he had taken a 3rd division team to the top and won a cup. Two years after leaving the safety net of the players around him, Stan was in the 3rd division at Brentford. As for consistency, that's not something geniuses are know for ie Georgie Best. But I really don't think the '67 team got the credit they deserved & their should be a memorial to Mike Keen. And I assure you, Stan re writes history & is obsessed with Rodney. Rodney, really doesn't give a Sh** about Bowles, and out of the two, Rodney is by far the more respectful and grateful to fans. Everytime I arrange a meet with him , he's there...... NOT SO with Stan... that's from experience. Photo - 'THE KING & i' me & Rodney. Attachments:
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2010 6:43:59 GMT
Rather than arguing you, I'm going to simply say: Marsh and Bowles Two fabulous players. Both made massive contributions to QPR. I wish both were in the QPR team. And the 1967 Team were fabulous - as was Mike Keen. And to make you (and me and others) hopefully happy - Another Rodney Remembers, fromlast year www.rodneymarsh.net/documents/RM_Blackpool0001.pdf |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 19, 2010 6:59:38 GMT
Rodney Marsh, he was Englands answer to New Zealand's Lonegunmen.  I'll get me coat! |
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Post by QPR Report on Apr 19, 2010 8:55:53 GMT
Two QPR Gods |
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Post by zicoshoops on Apr 19, 2010 9:23:49 GMT
I first saw Rodney play against Doncaster Rovers, 17th September 1966 and we had a lucky win. 6 nil. From that day until today, he's the finest player that has worn our shirt. Watching Rodney play football was like watching a world class Magician. Stan's the man...............but Rod is God. |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Apr 19, 2010 9:28:36 GMT
Two QPR Gods So true. |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 10, 2010 22:47:38 GMT
A legend, an entertainer, a goalscorer, a top man.
Happy Birthday !
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 10, 2010 22:57:51 GMT
Oh and Happy Birthday Blockhead!
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 10, 2010 23:02:23 GMT
Happy Birthday Rodnee - 66! (Have to see if I can find a past "Happy Birthday" From Last Year Edit: Rodney's Birthday qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7425Also Birthdays:Danny Maddix Turns 43Born - October 11, 1967. Defender, signed from Spurs on a Free Transfer by Jim Smith in July 1987. Given a free transfer in July 2001 after almost 300 games - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_MaddixVic Mobley Turns Sixty-Seven - Born October 11, 1943 Signed from Sheffield Wednesdsay by Les Allen, in October 1969 for 55,000 pounds. Unfortunately Mobley was shortly after injured (or was "pre-injured" when QPR signed him), and only played 30+ games for QPR. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Mobley |
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 10, 2010 23:08:06 GMT
I saw Danny Maddix playing for Spuds in a reserve fixture against the hoops at Loftus Road in 1985. He was quality even then.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 10, 2010 23:10:02 GMT
born October 11, 1944 qprreport.blogspot.com/2009/10/rodney-marsh-turns-sixty-five.htmlMarsh's QPR Record 1965-66 -16 league games -8 goals 1966-67 - 41 league games - 30 goals 1967-68 - 25 league games - 14 goals 1968-69 - 22 league games - 4 goals 1969-70 - 38 league games- 12 goals 1970-71 - 39 league games - 21 goals 1971-72 - 30 league games- 17 goals Rodney Marsh joined QPR from Fulham in March 1966. Then March 19, 1966: Marsh made his debut away to Peterborough. Drew 1-1 and didn't score. The team for Marsh's debut: Peter Springett -Langley, Hunt Sibley Watson - Lazarus, Keen, Roger Morgan, Allen, Collins Marsh. (The following week, Marsh made his home debut and scored twice in a 6-1 win over Millwall. Other scorers: Collins, Les Allen, Mark Lazaru & Roger Morgan) - Marsh's last game for QPR: March 4, 1972 away to Bristol City. QPR lost 0-2 Parkes - Clement Hazell Mancini Gillard - Francis Busby Hunt - Marsh O'Rourke Mcculloch Sub Leach (Note 7 "home growns" in the 12 - and Clement, Hazell, Hunt and Leach along with Watson were playing for QPR when Marsh joined) In all, Marsh scored 106 goals in 211 League Games for QPR. In the 1966/67 season, Marsh was the country's top goalscorer with 44 goals (30 League goals. 11 Legue cup goals. 3 FA cup goals.) - Marsh's League Cup Final Goal (25 seconds into video) - Video - Rodney Marsh hatrick MORE MARSH/QPR MEMORIES: Memories 1 Memories II Also Marsh Q& A  |
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 10, 2010 23:10:24 GMT
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Post by blockhead on Oct 11, 2010 16:03:04 GMT
Thanks Lone!  |
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Post by terryloftus on Oct 12, 2010 23:25:14 GMT
Sorry folks. Didn't get a chance to post yesterday, but the 11th was GODNEY'S Birthday. If you want to post any Birthday messages on here, I will gladly paste them and mail them to Rod who's just got back to Florida. I also arranged for Rod to sign with all star signings, so you know you are getting the real thing! (I have seen so many fakes on E-bay!) A lovely, large, glossy montage of Rod in '67 and England kit has been made and titled ' Rodney Marsh- Maverick'. It comes with a COA + photo of him signing the posters, so you know you have the real thing. The actual photo is not on the site yet, but keep your eye on the link below. www.collectormanialondon.com/Rod, is also doing a signing session for all star in London in November...... I will keep you posted. Attachments:
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 13, 2010 4:16:57 GMT
Sorry Tel, there's already a thready on it But yes, another year under the bridge so to speak for our legend. |
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Post by cpr on Oct 13, 2010 8:41:56 GMT
Happy belated Birthday Rod. ;D Might even attend the book signing "Loose Cannon" that Tel alluded to, as it is here. www.hemingwaysbar.co.uk/ |
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 11, 2011 6:48:07 GMT
Bump a year...Happy Birthday.... Sixty-Seven
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Post by bp on Oct 11, 2011 6:53:33 GMT
Bump a year...Happy Birthday.... Sixty-Seven Just beat me to it. Happy birthday Rod. |
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Post by superckat on Oct 11, 2011 7:04:13 GMT
Happy Birthday Rodney. Have a great day
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Post by gramps on Oct 11, 2011 7:57:12 GMT
Many Happy Returns Rodney. I probably saw more of his games than many people on this board and also Stan Bowles games. Make no mistake about it, Rodney was by far the better and more committed club man. He was a god to us all. Without exception he was for me the best player I have ever seen anywhere, not just in blue and white hoops. At the time Rodney was crying after the League Cup Final I was standing on the terraces sobbing with him from the sheer emotion and joy of the occasion and there were not many dry eyes around us. A sensational day, the likes of which we shall never see again. Oh, sure, we may well get into a cup final of some sort again. We may have great results and successes in the future but this match cannot be compared with anything. I don't say this as a form of gloating over our younger members here but you have missed something very special in Rodney. He also had times for the supporters. I remember when he was injured on one occasion he sat immediately behind me in the Ellerslie Road stand and was happy to chat throughout the game. If there is one good thing about being in my mid 70s it is that I WAS THERE in Rodney's time and I am just so grateful for that. Must stop there before I start blubbing again.
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Post by billericayr on Oct 11, 2011 9:34:46 GMT
Yes - Great memories. Probably added 5,000 to the gate at home games.
Also one of the few players I have seen who could win a game on his own.
Does anyone remember a FA Cup game against Charlton - probably about 1970 - 1971 ish. It was at the Valley and we were 2 goals down very quickly.
I remember we had a corner and the Charlton fans started singing "Rodney is a fairy".
Within a short period he had scored two goals and then in the second half laid on the winner for Frank Clark.
We probably sold him at the right time as it then enabled the younger players (Francis, Busby etc) to express themselves more and take more responsibility.
But it still gave me pleasure when seeing him play for Man City.
I have a bald patch now where he once patted me on the head. Is that god -like or just that I am getting old ??
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Post by Bushman on Oct 11, 2011 10:44:48 GMT
Yes - Great memories. Probably added 5,000 to the gate at home games. Also one of the few players I have seen who could win a game on his own. Does anyone remember a FA Cup game against Charlton - probably about 1970 - 1971 ish. It was at the Valley and we were 2 goals down very quickly. I remember we had a corner and the Charlton fans started singing "Rodney is a fairy". Within a short period he had scored two goals and then in the second half laid on the winner for Frank Clark. We probably sold him at the right time as it then enabled the younger players (Francis, Busby etc) to express themselves more and take more responsibility. But it still gave me pleasure when seeing him play for Man City. I have a bald patch now where he once patted me on the head. Is that god -like or just that I am getting old ?? Welcome billericayr and a good first post to start with. That was a special day at Charlton with the sound of ROD-NEEE, ROD-NEEE at the Valley. We were down 2-0 thanks to Vic Mobley. The third goal was a quick break as Marsh drew Burns the Charlton goalkeeper out of his goal,everyone expected him to get his hat-trick but he squared it for Frank Clarke to put the ball into an empty net. Happy Birthday Rodney. |
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Post by Bushman on Oct 11, 2011 11:27:46 GMT
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Post by gramps on Oct 11, 2011 11:47:16 GMT
Welcome billericayr. Sounds like a nother member from the noble county of Essex.
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 11, 2011 12:07:13 GMT
The thing about Rodney though (unfortunately) was that he didn't always turn it on. I remember another game also against charlton when he was marked out of the game. (I can't remember the name of the player - Was it Reid?)...
And against Chelsea in the QF FA Cup, Ron Harris kept him quiet.
Always felt that for his own good (not for ours), if he'd gone to a top First Division Club far earlier in his career.
But luckily for us, that didnt happen
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Post by Bushman on Oct 11, 2011 12:20:19 GMT
The thing about Rodney though (unfortunately) was that he didn't always turn it on. I remember another game also against charlton when he was marked out of the game. (I can't remember the name of the player - Was it Reid?)... And against Chelsea in the QF FA Cup, Ron Harris kept him quiet. Always felt that for his own good (not for ours), if he'd gone to a top First Division Club far earlier in his career. But luckily for us, that didnt happen You are right mac Marsh did go walkabout in some games but he still scored 21 goals that season. I think it was Peter Reeves in the Charlton game. |
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 11, 2011 12:44:49 GMT
Peter Reeves. That was the man, thanks. Bushman |
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Post by rousdonhoops on Oct 11, 2011 19:15:30 GMT
happy birthday Rod, thanks for the memories, they last a lifetime, probably scrawled Rodney on every desk at school, idolised him. Was at Charlton too, one of the best games I've seen. Rodney was the difference that day, sheer brilliance
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