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Post by sharky on Jan 12, 2017 23:07:24 GMT
....and from the Offie POLTER COMPLETES FC UNION BERLIN MOVEPUBLISHED 15:09 12th January 2017 by @qprfc Striker signs permanent deal with German second tier side … QPR confirm Sebastian Polter's departure German striker moves back to homeland with FC Union Berlin Front-man thanks 'incredible' R's fans for their support SEBASTIAN Polter has completed a permanent transfer from QPR to FC Union Berlin, joining the German second-tier side for an undisclosed fee. The striker joined the R's from Mainz in the summer of 2015, and in his time at Loftus Road made 56 appearances, scoring 11 goals. Prior to joining Rangers, Polter spent a year on loan at FC Union Berlin, where he scored 14 goals in 29 appearances. QPR manager Ian Holloway told http://www.qpr.co.uk: “I am sorry to lose Seb. He is a great professional and has an attitude that I love. “Whether it’s in training or in matches, he gives you everything he’s got. His desire and commitment made him very popular with the fans here, which tells you everything. “We wish him every success in the future because he is a man who deserves it.” Polter added: “I have had a fantastic time at QPR. At the start it was difficult for me but I came through and really enjoyed the honour of playing for the club. “I am sad to leave but, for family reasons, this move back to Germany at this particular moment in my life is the right thing for me to do, so I could not turn this down. “QPR will always be a special club for me and I have made memories here that I will keep with me forever. “I want to thank the fans for the love they have shown me. They are incredible supporters.” The club would like to thank Seb for his contribution during his time with us, and wish him every success in the future. The deal is subject to International Clearance being issued. Read more at www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/qpr-sebastian-polter-fc-union-berlin-3511756.aspx#MB46XtU2jSv91a6i.99
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Post by tkqpr on Jan 13, 2017 10:22:07 GMT
Rumour that we are linked with David Davis (not the MP) a combative energetic 25 year old who plays for Birmingham. Goes under the radar a bit but well thought of at Birmingham, but does he fit in with the Zola revolution? Could be a good addition, not likely to be too much of a cost? A no nonsense energetic battling central midfielder, i would say thats just what Ollie is after. Could have legs in it? www.skysports.com/football/player/74190/david-davis
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Post by tkqpr on Jan 13, 2017 12:05:11 GMT
I think our priorities at the moment are another striker and a centre half. With Manning and Doughty seemingly establishing themselves in the squad and with Hall being pushed forward we are not badly equipped with numbers at least in midfield. If Lynch or Sylla get injured though we are very short on cover. Probably why Davis is an option what with us having a very capable CB in Hall?
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Post by sharky on Jan 13, 2017 12:22:37 GMT
I think our priorities at the moment are another striker and a centre half. With Manning and Doughty seemingly establishing themselves in the squad and with Hall being pushed forward we are not badly equipped with numbers at least in midfield. If Lynch or Sylla get injured though we are very short on cover. We,ve got a sh1t load of underused strikers. If we are to get another in we need to get rid of at least two IMO!
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Post by Marc on Jan 13, 2017 12:34:01 GMT
I think our priorities at the moment are another striker and a centre half. With Manning and Doughty seemingly establishing themselves in the squad and with Hall being pushed forward we are not badly equipped with numbers at least in midfield. If Lynch or Sylla get injured though we are very short on cover. We,ve got a sh1t load of underused strikers. If we are to get another in we need to get rid of at least two IMO! We have Sylla & Washington, who else?
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Post by harr on Jan 13, 2017 12:35:45 GMT
Have we thst many strikers ? Cylla, Washington, Jet has until summer 18 but probably wont play again for us. Mackie I usually class under the winger banner but can be striker as well. Then we have youngsters after that ...
Am I missing someone?
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Post by harr on Jan 13, 2017 13:37:11 GMT
Forget JET Harr he is out of the picture. I named Sylla because the only replacement we had for him in his role was Polter. The Washingtons and Mackies are different types of players. Just look at last night Sylla was admittedly slow to start but as the game wore on he came into his own, became an increasing threat and was unlucky not to score. He was also able to use his physical side to hold up the ball, act as a target and lay off the ball when Reading tried to up the pressure. Once he was replaced by Lualua we lost that ability and drifted further back, giving the ball back to Reading more often. I for one was disappointed and baffled that Olli made that substitution. I think was his only mistake of the night although maybe he could have made the Manning -Doughty switch a bit earlier as Manning was tiring imo. Believe me, I would like to forget him...... I was as just replying to Sharky re him saying we have shitloads of strikers? I dont think we really do, we were probably one light before Poulter even left imo. I dont question your points above though re Sylla etc
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Post by harr on Jan 13, 2017 13:41:35 GMT
Comley back on loan to Grimsby
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Post by gje on Jan 13, 2017 13:52:21 GMT
With Sandro gone and now comley loaned and cousins with a prolonged injury, where does this leave our center midefield? Luongo, Hall, Manning, Doughty? (Assuming Henry is gone)
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Post by Marc on Jan 13, 2017 14:08:53 GMT
With Sandro gone and now comley loaned and cousins with a prolonged injury, where does this leave our center midefield? Luongo, Hall, Manning, Doughty? (Assuming Henry is gone) And Borysiuk.
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Post by tkqpr on Jan 13, 2017 14:39:21 GMT
Probably why Davis is an option what with us having a very capable CB in Hall? I see your point but that means we would be buying a midfield player to sit on the bench in case a centre half gets injured and then start moving people around to different positions to those Ollie wants to use them in.
I think the Davis link is because hes been highlighted as out of contract in the summer and therefore will be relatively cheap, maybe no real deals or indeed quality at CB better than Hall? And like someone has already posted Maybe we are a bit short in the Midfield in terms of numbers and experience, with Henry, Sandro, Comley, Cousins either injured, sold or out of favour. We are playing 4-3-3 so need 3 CM as opposed to 2 CB. We need a more experienced CM imo, just to add a bit of strength and depth, although I've great hopes for Doughty and the revelation that is Manning, but they will have their off days as well im sure, and at times last night we needed to soak up the pressure and do a lot of running, a lot of dirty work, i think Davis would be good for that from what ive read about him..
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Post by salts on Jan 13, 2017 21:05:27 GMT
If the opportunity to upgrade on what we have at an affordable price arises, then we will no doubt pursue it. Eg Davis will be an upgrade on Doughty and Manning. This doesn't mean that Doughty or Manning won't improve or even become better players than Davis in time, but for now Davis is probably the better player of the three - and we are more likely to win games with him regularly in the side than the other two for now. Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance.
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Post by terryb on Jan 14, 2017 10:15:09 GMT
If the opportunity to upgrade on what we have at an affordable price arises, then we will no doubt pursue it. Eg Davis will be an upgrade on Doughty and Manning. This doesn't mean that Doughty or Manning won't improve or even become better players than Davis in time, but for now Davis is probably the better player of the three - and we are more likely to win games with him regularly in the side than the other two for now. Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance. "Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance" As people that know me are aware, this is one of my pet hates! How young is too young? If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would never have escaped the third division in the 60's! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would have lost half of our greatest ever side! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would lose half of the Venables side! Did anyone at those times think they were too young to play? Does anyone under the age of 25 think that Furlong, Manning. Doughty, Shodipo etc are too young to play now? NO, of course they don't! This too young business is nearly always us old buggers looking back & not wanting to accept that the current youth haver the same right to enjoy/celebrate themselves as we did! I don't know many young people that think they can't perform on the same level (or better) as their elders, whether it be in the sports arena, at work or socially. Just the same as we were at that age! This experience lark is utter nonsense. It is often a term for mediocrity & lack of adventure! Experience is omly ever helpful if used in conjunction with youth & flair. BTW, we WILL achieve better results with the players I named in the team NOW. Why? Because they are hungry, because they are more inventive, because they are not so afraid of failure, BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER PLAYERS! When I started playing adult football at the age of 15 I never believed that I wssn't old enough or that players were better than me because they were older/experienced. Neither will teenagers now!
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Post by bowles on Jan 14, 2017 13:43:04 GMT
If the opportunity to upgrade on what we have at an affordable price arises, then we will no doubt pursue it. Eg Davis will be an upgrade on Doughty and Manning. This doesn't mean that Doughty or Manning won't improve or even become better players than Davis in time, but for now Davis is probably the better player of the three - and we are more likely to win games with him regularly in the side than the other two for now. Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance. "Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance" As people that know me are aware, this is one of my pet hates! How young is too young? If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would never have escaped the third division in the 60's! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would have lost half of our greatest ever side! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would lose half of the Venables side! Did anyone at those times think they were too young to play? Does anyone under the age of 25 think that Furlong, Manning. Doughty, Shodipo etc are too young to play now? NO, of course they don't! This too young business is nearly always us old buggers looking back & not wanting to accept that the current youth haver the same right to enjoy/celebrate themselves as we did! I don't know many young people that think they can't perform on the same level (or better) as their elders, whether it be in the sports arena, at work or socially. Just the same as we were at that age! This experience lark is utter nonsense. It is often a term for mediocrity & lack of adventure! Experience is omly ever helpful if used in conjunction with youth & flair. BTW, we WILL achieve better results with the players I named in the team NOW. Why? Because they are hungry, because they are more inventive, because they are not so afraid of failure, BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER PLAYERS! When I started playing adult football at the age of 15 I never believed that I wssn't old enough or that players were better than me because they were older/experienced. Neither will teenagers now! Great post mate and i totally agree with you!
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Post by salts on Jan 14, 2017 14:55:53 GMT
"Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance" - This is not my personal opinion in case anyone thought it might be. Not saying that anyone has. It's how I feel the state of football is in right now. Owners and fans (not all of course) are far too impatient and managers with their jobs on the line cannot afford to mess up or even have a bedding in period these days it seems.
I disagree that experience is utter nonsense. Less experienced (usually younger) players are more prone to making costly mistakes. I think that is a fact. Shodipo may well benefit from a loan, after having spent some time in and out of the first team, so each way of giving youngsters experience has its merits. It is up to the manager/DOF to decide what they think will be of most benefit on an individual basis. Some players, Manning perhaps, may benefit more from being thrust straight into the first team. Others may benefit more from loan spells.
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Post by harr on Jan 14, 2017 20:49:20 GMT
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Post by rangerjake on Jan 14, 2017 22:10:43 GMT
Should I be excited about this guy? 2 goals and zero assists this season from what I can tell.
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Post by harr on Jan 14, 2017 22:28:12 GMT
I guess he still fairly young at 24, how many did Hoillett ever score for us as a winger and he was 4 million. I think he could be a player that gives his all, a Mackie type, fans would like him. Most Bristol City fans want to keep him. You can bet your money that Holloway knows alot about the Bristol players City and Rovers.
We have to trust his judgement, we trusted Hughes, Redknapps and JFH so why not Ollies. Lets face it three of JFH midfielders have been pretty dreadful (Gladwin, Gobern, El Khayati )so lets just see.
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Post by sharky on Jan 14, 2017 23:41:26 GMT
From the Offie. No surprises
BRANDON COMLEY REJOINS GRIMSBY
PUBLISHED 11:30 13th January 2017 by @qprfc
QPR midfielder returns on loan to League Two side …
Brandon Comley returns to Grimsby Town Midfielder rejoins League Two side until the end of the season Youngster came off the bench for QPR in Thursday's 1-0 win at Reading
R’S youngster Brandon Comley has returned to Grimsby Town on loan. The 21 year-old midfielder – who spent the first half of the season with the Mariners – returned to Rangers this week following the end of his initial loan spell, coming off the bench late on for QPR during Thursday night’s 1-0 win at Reading. Comley, who’s already made 22 appearances in all competitions for the League Two side this campaign, will stay with Town until the end of the season.
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Post by sharky on Jan 14, 2017 23:44:29 GMT
The westlondonsport article on Luke Freeman in full www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/bristol-city-boss-hints-freeman-off-qprBristol City boss hints Freeman could be off to QPRBy West London Sport 14/01/2017 Bristol City boss Lee Johnson confirmed after leaving Luke Freeman out against Cardiff that the decision was taken because of doubts over the player’s future. West London Sport recently revealed that QPR had made a move for the 24-year-old winger, whose Robins contract expires at the end of the season. That offer was rejected and City have offered him a new deal, leaving Rangers to consider their options. One of those options is to try to sign Freeman on a pre-contract agreement for the end of the season, as City have indicated that they do want to sell. However, Johnson appeared to suggest after his team’s 3-2 home defeat against Cardiff that Freeman’s time at Ashton Gate could be up unless he agrees to sign a contract extension – and that a decision needs to be made soon. Johnson told his club’s website that Freeman’s omission “had everything to do with the contract situation.” He added: “The objective remains that we want Luke to stay and sign the contract, but there always comes a tipping point. “Luke has two good clubs interested in him. One is closer to home; the other is one where he has made his name, improving year on year and where he is loved by the staff, players and fans. “The contract remains there for him to sign but he hasn’t yet. In a derby I just felt that I couldn’t risk having anyone out there who may not have been committed. “I’m not for one minute saying that Luke is not committed, but there’s clearly a lot going through his mind at the moment. “We still live in hope that he’ll sign the contract but we can’t leave that on the table forever. We have to do what’s right for Bristol City first and foremost. ”He has to make a decision and do that reasonably quickly.”
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Post by sharky on Jan 15, 2017 0:28:00 GMT
All too quiet on the Caulker, Chery and Henry front. Hopefully like a duck swimming, all quiet on top of the water but all action below the weter line!
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Post by harr on Jan 15, 2017 9:31:16 GMT
Chery should be finalised Mon / Tue Henry will probably go to League One, possibly Millwall. Caulker will still be with us come May. Then we have to hope we can sell with a year left (of the 4 years )on his contract or loan for final year. All in all like the Sandro signing, has been a terrible signing for us.
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Post by sharky on Jan 15, 2017 15:07:04 GMT
Funny how this transfer thread seems more about who we should get rid of rather than who we want in ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) In recent press quotes Ollie has said he rates Caulker and wants him fit and playing and to help get him back to what he once was (a few years ago now) Whether Ollie will be able to do that (financially) over the summer is another thing but there's lots of water to pass under the bridge between now and then. At least on Caulker we recovered some money with pretty good loan fees for a while. Agree. I also thought that he did quite well at the beginning of the season. He tailed off but is a good defensive option if motivated to do so.
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Post by harr on Jan 15, 2017 17:45:44 GMT
Caulker is a luxury. Whilst he is on his salary in this League at 50-60 k a week or whatever it is, it would pay for 2 players. If you pay Caulkers salary for another 1 1/2 years it will be another 4 million on wages and you will get nothing for him when he goes. Better to sell him in the summer for what we can get from him now. Say we get 3 Million for him and save another 2 million on wages, thats 5 million that goes along way on the wages and fees we are currently paying.
I'm not saying he is not a good enough player in this division, just makes sense to get some sort of payment back soon. He wont be sold now as injured and wont be playing until March.
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Post by Roller on Jan 15, 2017 18:49:14 GMT
If the opportunity to upgrade on what we have at an affordable price arises, then we will no doubt pursue it. Eg Davis will be an upgrade on Doughty and Manning. This doesn't mean that Doughty or Manning won't improve or even become better players than Davis in time, but for now Davis is probably the better player of the three - and we are more likely to win games with him regularly in the side than the other two for now. Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance. "Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance" As people that know me are aware, this is one of my pet hates! How young is too young? If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would never have escaped the third division in the 60's! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would have lost half of our greatest ever side! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would lose half of the Venables side! Did anyone at those times think they were too young to play? Does anyone under the age of 25 think that Furlong, Manning. Doughty, Shodipo etc are too young to play now? NO, of course they don't! This too young business is nearly always us old buggers looking back & not wanting to accept that the current youth haver the same right to enjoy/celebrate themselves as we did! I don't know many young people that think they can't perform on the same level (or better) as their elders, whether it be in the sports arena, at work or socially. Just the same as we were at that age! This experience lark is utter nonsense. It is often a term for mediocrity & lack of adventure! Experience is omly ever helpful if used in conjunction with youth & flair. BTW, we WILL achieve better results with the players I named in the team NOW. Why? Because they are hungry, because they are more inventive, because they are not so afraid of failure, BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER PLAYERS! When I started playing adult football at the age of 15 I never believed that I wssn't old enough or that players were better than me because they were older/experienced. Neither will teenagers now! this sounds vaguely familiar Terry, I think you may have mentioned it before
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Post by terryb on Jan 15, 2017 19:30:53 GMT
"Like all clubs, we need results now. The manager needs results now. The fans cry out for results now. Too dangerous to blood players for the future - they have to get better elsewhere. On loan for instance" As people that know me are aware, this is one of my pet hates! How young is too young? If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would never have escaped the third division in the 60's! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would have lost half of our greatest ever side! If it wasn't for playing youngsters we would lose half of the Venables side! Did anyone at those times think they were too young to play? Does anyone under the age of 25 think that Furlong, Manning. Doughty, Shodipo etc are too young to play now? NO, of course they don't! This too young business is nearly always us old buggers looking back & not wanting to accept that the current youth haver the same right to enjoy/celebrate themselves as we did! I don't know many young people that think they can't perform on the same level (or better) as their elders, whether it be in the sports arena, at work or socially. Just the same as we were at that age! This experience lark is utter nonsense. It is often a term for mediocrity & lack of adventure! Experience is omly ever helpful if used in conjunction with youth & flair. BTW, we WILL achieve better results with the players I named in the team NOW. Why? Because they are hungry, because they are more inventive, because they are not so afraid of failure, BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER PLAYERS! When I started playing adult football at the age of 15 I never believed that I wssn't old enough or that players were better than me because they were older/experienced. Neither will teenagers now! this sounds vaguely familiar Terry, I think you may have mentioned it before And this is the text of your next AKUTR column! I would write it myself, but as we know, I can't spell & my knowledge of language is atrocious! Besides, being retired I don't have the time that you self employed people have! I hope to be in the Bush around 11.00 on Saturday if your available for a pre match beverage.
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Post by Roller on Jan 15, 2017 20:04:00 GMT
this sounds vaguely familiar Terry, I think you may have mentioned it before And this is the text of your next AKUTR column! I would write it myself, but as we know, I can't spell & my knowledge of language is atrocious! Besides, being retired I don't have the time that you self employed people have! I hope to be in the Bush around 11.00 on Saturday if your available for a pre match beverage. I'm trying to finish the next column at the moment, the next issue should be out on Saturday. Bizarrely enough it is about our youth players (again!!!), but not from that angle; perhaps next time ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) See you on Saturday
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 16, 2017 9:44:08 GMT
Bristol Post on Luke Freeman...
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 16, 2017 9:46:07 GMT
Twitter rumour we're apparently after Patrick Bamford (again)
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Post by Marc on Jan 16, 2017 10:07:15 GMT
Twitter rumour we're apparently after Patrick Bamford (again) Saw a tweet earlier that he was going to Middlesborough for £10m (which would explain his recall).
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