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Post by paulmason on Oct 25, 2014 20:00:36 GMT
While your on about not answering questions, where is your explanation of Hughes having a better win ratio for us in the premier than Redknbapp? I refer my right honourable friend to my answer already given about MH and HR bring a good managers everywhere else apart from W12. We should have had 1pt minimum v Hull, probably all 3 but we didn't.
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Post by harr on Oct 25, 2014 20:08:03 GMT
Probably 50 different managers. It is an irrelevance. Wanting a manager dismissed has never had to be justified by naming a replacement. Did you name one to replace Hughes? My preference would be for Karl Robinson, exactly as it was when our last two managers were appoiunbted. While your on about not answering questions, where is your explanation of Hughes having a better win ratio for us in the premier than Redknbapp? qprreport.proboards.com/thread/40122/harrys-win-ratio-manager-premThere re you go Terry , this was before Liverpool , even worse now under 15 % NW and Hughes better Prem win ratio.
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Post by paulmason on Oct 25, 2014 20:10:45 GMT
Yada, yada, yada. If we loose on Monday and Harry is sacked, will you be happy? I refer my right honourable friend to my answer already given! Terry, if we beat Villa convincingly on Monday and Harry remains manager, will to be happy and support him?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 25, 2014 20:14:07 GMT
Where have you gone Mr Venables, your football team is crying out for you oooh oooh oooh.
Or could Gerry Francis make it a hattrick?
There is something about this club that can bring out the worst in managers abilities. The ghost of Dave Sexton? Maybe it needs to be exorcised? No live chicken sacrafices though even if we already have a headless one sucking the club of wages.
I really am not sure what the answer is. I want to like Redknapp but I do question his choices sometimes. Successful manager? One FA Cup bought with mercenaires that saw Portsmouth relegated and in such deep shite they are still paying the price. At Spuds he had a big cheque book but already had decent players there too.
One thing for sure is, I don't want the club to keep on losing so he will lose his job. I would like us to survive for more than one season though.
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Post by terryb on Oct 25, 2014 20:19:30 GMT
I refer my right honourable friend to my answer already given! Terry, if we beat Villa convincingly on Monday and Harry remains manager, will to be happy and support him? NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Oct 25, 2014 20:23:56 GMT
LOL
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Post by paulmason on Oct 25, 2014 20:25:10 GMT
Terry, if we beat Villa convincingly on Monday and Harry remains manager, will to be happy and support him? NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 25, 2014 21:07:01 GMT
NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it.
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Post by paulmason on Oct 25, 2014 21:22:34 GMT
Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it. The act of being so overcome with emotion that 1. The eyebrows come together and curve up at the inside. 2. The eyes become big and childlike 3. The lips and sometimes the chin shake. Number three is what actually constitutes wibbling. !!
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Post by terryb on Oct 25, 2014 21:27:40 GMT
NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it. twitcher? Who is twitcher?
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Post by alfaranger on Oct 26, 2014 10:17:06 GMT
Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it. twitcher? Who is twitcher? I thought he was just calling him a bird watcher. Seriously though, that label has been out there for years as far as Harry's concerned, just google it. Wasn't one of boards showing comedy videos of Harry parody's where the comic influence relied heavily on Harry's unfortunate facial expressions?
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Post by alfaranger on Oct 26, 2014 10:25:03 GMT
Terry, if we beat Villa convincingly on Monday and Harry remains manager, will to be happy and support him? NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Personally, I like Harry and don't wish him to be sacked. The danger for me is the other way where I'd maybe want to hang on to him when it's evident he should be gone. Those who don't like Harry because he's Harry obviously never wanted him here anyway and want him gone after every game, or at every moment in terry's case. That's all alright though isn't it. That's what this message board is for, for people to express their opinions and where they stand over various issues.
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Post by harr on Oct 26, 2014 10:41:37 GMT
NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Personally, I like Harry and don't wish him to be sacked. The danger for me is the other way where I'd maybe want to hang on to him when it's evident he should be gone. Those who don't like Harry because he's Harry obviously never wanted him here anyway and want him gone after every game, or at every moment in terry's case. That's all alright though isn't it. That's what this message board is for, for people to express their opinions and where they stand over various issues. If he was getting the results I wouldn't want him sacked , stability would be better for sure. I have no problem with Harry as Harry always thought he was a decent Manager at other Clubs and wanted him to manage QPR. Trouble is though this season whatever way you look it , few injuries so what , bit of bad luck so what, missed pen so what ,we should be doing better. i will reassess after Newcastle if I want him As our Manager for the home games with our lower end rivals like Burnley, Palace,WBA, etc. Think it's only fair to look and see how many points he has more than Hughes did. Hughes a Manager that most QPR fans wanted rid of as they thought was out of his depth . Let's not forget he had some pretty average players. Maybe you shouldn't compare the two ? But that's the way I personally view it. I certainly wouldn't be taking the mickey out of a condition or tic he has , very low. He does enjoy his bird watching though and spends several hundred pounds a year on seeds to feed his garden birds. Good for him .
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Post by paulmason on Oct 26, 2014 10:48:06 GMT
Wow, if we score a winner in the 93rd minute on Monday, will you go wild or sulk because twitcher will be staying for another week. I cant stand Adel's attitude but if he scored a 93rd minute winner I would hug and Kiss whoever and praise HR for bringing him on to do it. Well Mr Mason - This time I think you are being abusive. Harry shows a slight nervous Twitch which is evident more during some match days and press conferences.
Call him or think what you like but do not insult people with any sort of physical or mental abnormality beyond their own control. Millions of people have twitches of some degree and I even had suffered with a nervous eye twitch many years ago. An apology or withdrawal might be appropriate. It's not abusive, its a common thing people say and people like Sky have done comedy sketches of him with is window open.you make not like or agree with the word used, but no apology or withdrawal needed.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 26, 2014 10:48:18 GMT
NO! How many more times, the two matters are not related. I hate the man with a passion & have for many, many years. Both as a person & as a manager. Please, I can't say it any clearer. My loyalty to Queens Park Rangers is beyond question. My desire for us to be managed by a man of integrity instead of Harold is also extremely strong. Personally, I like Harry and don't wish him to be sacked. The danger for me is the other way where I'd maybe want to hang on to him when it's evident he should be gone. Those who don't like Harry because he's Harry obviously never wanted him here anyway and want him gone after every game, or at every moment in terry's case. That's all alright though isn't it. That's what this message board is for, for people to express their opinions and where they stand over various issues. Exactly,
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Post by Bushman on Oct 26, 2014 11:00:04 GMT
Well Mr Mason - This time I think you are being abusive. Harry shows a slight nervous Twitch which is evident more during some match days and press conferences.
Call him or think what you like but do not insult people with any sort of physical or mental abnormality beyond their own control. Millions of people have twitches of some degree and I even had suffered with a nervous eye twitch many years ago. An apology or withdrawal might be appropriate. It's not abusive, its a common thing people say and people like Sky have done comedy sketches of him with is window open.you make not like or agree with the word used, but no apology or withdrawal needed. So you wouldn't have a problem calling Redknapp that if you met him?
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Post by paulmason on Oct 26, 2014 11:02:46 GMT
Looking at big Sam last season v this season, I think we would be foolish to get rid of Harry when all thats needed is a few tweets here and there. I agree that some people don't like him and don't want him here but thats the same for most managers.
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Post by paulmason on Oct 26, 2014 11:06:51 GMT
It's not abusive, its a common thing people say and people like Sky have done comedy sketches of him with is window open.you make not like or agree with the word used, but no apology or withdrawal needed. So you wouldn't have a problem calling Redknapp that if you met him? I have met him several times and did not call him twitcher.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 26, 2014 11:09:08 GMT
So you wouldn't have a problem calling Redknapp that if you met him? I have met him several times and did not call him that. Why not?
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 26, 2014 14:34:44 GMT
With a couple of exceptions, when I have definitely lost it, I don't believe in Insulting people/calling them names.
That doesn't mean giving any individual at the Club or any messageboard poster a "free ride." Far from it
It just means doing in a civil way.
And that's the role adopted by most posters on this board.
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Post by Bushman on Oct 26, 2014 18:08:10 GMT
I have met him several times and did not call him that. Why not? Still waiting for answer.
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Post by Marc on Oct 26, 2014 18:22:34 GMT
Still waiting for answer. I think that, in itself, is your answer.
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Post by kenthoop on Oct 27, 2014 9:09:51 GMT
Looking at big Sam last season v this season, I think we would be foolish to get rid of Harry when all thats needed is a few tweets here and there. I agree that some people don't like him and don't want him here but thats the same for most managers. I think you must mean tweaks ,all this twitcher nonsense
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Post by blatantfowl on Oct 27, 2014 9:47:48 GMT
Hey Paul you have been pretty punchy in your posts. Nothing wrong with that but you spilled over into daft insults with the twitcher comment. Personal insults are not the crime of the century but it's a crappy thing to do that lacks class and dilutes your credibility. You might find your fellow posters respect you and the points you make a lot more if you are big enough to admit fallibility now and thenthen
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Post by kilburnhoop on Oct 27, 2014 10:25:27 GMT
Think this is all way over the top. This is a QPR message board, we all want the same thing don't we?
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Post by alfaranger on Oct 27, 2014 12:39:48 GMT
I thought it would be a useful exercise to enter 'twitcher' into our search facility above to see if anyone else has used it and what the reaction was. It hasn't cropped up many times but in the 3 pages it brings up (not all relating to Harry) you'll see some moderators in there as well. Can't recall any storm of protest at the time; well there wasn't and neither should there have been.
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Post by tom007 on Oct 27, 2014 12:59:19 GMT
harry is a good manage simple as that,no different than any other in that he needs a kick up the arse now and again as in the way the team are playing.i think if we played as we did last week from game 1 we would have double the points we have now.defensively we are vey,very bad and this is what jordan is supposed to deal with , attacking wise we were fantastic and actually looked like a redknapp team.right now id be more worried about a certain owner jumping ship if we got relegated and demoted to the conference.i think we will win 2nite and then move on up.i am confident and sure with harry we will be fine.
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Post by paulmason on Oct 27, 2014 13:58:12 GMT
Wow, what an over reaction. I will bear in mind the feelings of some on here when posting in the future.
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Post by sharky on Oct 27, 2014 14:00:14 GMT
Getting back to the reason for this thread, with Sandro, Neddy, Barton, Mutch and Nikko out, will 'Arry look at Adel tonight? Even in a bench role?
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Post by Markqpr on Oct 27, 2014 14:33:37 GMT
Getting back to the reason for this thread, with Sandro, Neddy, Barton, Mutch and Nikko out, will 'Arry look at Adel tonight? Even in a bench role? No. The 'excuse' for him not being in the squad, that he now has an 'illness' has already been announced, thereby preempting any troublesome questions from the press. Hopefully Sandro and Ned will be back, if not we should just start with the 11 that were on the pitch at the end of the Liverpool game, except replace Phillips with Hoilett. Also, Neddy? Just don't sound right to me. Kind of name you'd give a cart horse and Ned certainly aint no cart horse. Ferninand on the other hand.........!
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