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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 17:19:56 GMT
Walk away with some dignity Harry and take some of the coaches with you .
Get Pulis or Sherwood , give them a go , can't do any worse .
At this rate will have 4 points , same as Hughes got after 12 games.
4 AWAY GAMES NO POINTS , 11 goals conceded , none for . Lost at Home to Hull and almost lost to Stoke .
If someone try's to says there's positives now , please show me them?
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Post by jjqpr on Oct 5, 2014 17:48:08 GMT
Have to agree sadly, before its too late please!!
Won't happen though.
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Post by kenthoop on Oct 5, 2014 18:01:24 GMT
A.n.g.e.l.i.cHave to agree as I said in chat room sometimes a different voice in the changing room and training pitch can sometimes work wonders for a team ,if you look at his body language gives me the impression he does not want to be here ,IMO we need a change before it is too late ,if Fernandes is so adamant on him staying then shove him upstairs or somewhere but please get him away from managing this football team ,rant over
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Post by Marc on Oct 5, 2014 18:13:37 GMT
Walk away with some dignity Harry and take some of the coaches with you . Get Pulis or Sherwood , give them a go , can't do any worse . At this rate will have 4 points , same as Hughes got after 12 games. 4 AWAY GAMES NO POINTS , 11 goals conceded , none for .Lost at Home to Hull and almost lost to Stoke . If someone try's to says there's positives now , please show me them? Seems a shame to discount Austin's goal at Southampton.
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 18:22:21 GMT
Walk away with some dignity Harry and take some of the coaches with you . Get Pulis or Sherwood , give them a go , can't do any worse . At this rate will have 4 points , same as Hughes got after 12 games. 4 AWAY GAMES NO POINTS , 11 goals conceded , none for .Lost at Home to Hull and almost lost to Stoke . If someone try's to says there's positives now , please show me them? Seems a shame to discount Austin's goal at Southampton. Lol , that's a positive Fabs but I think it's 12 against not 11 ?
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Post by timewaster on Oct 5, 2014 18:22:56 GMT
Walk away with some dignity Harry and take some of the coaches with you . Get Pulis or Sherwood , give them a go , can't do any worse . At this rate will have 4 points , same as Hughes got after 12 games. 4 AWAY GAMES NO POINTS , 11 goals conceded , none for .Lost at Home to Hull and almost lost to Stoke . If someone try's to says there's positives now , please show me them? Seems a shame to discount Austin's goal at Southampton. And 12 goals against as well harr is not up to Harlow's standard
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 18:25:28 GMT
Went to the game and have to say we have got nothing , no passion , no commitment , Rio didn't even break sweat , this is your team Redknapp , Hughes is long gone but this team smells the same , hate to say it but get Pullis in now to save our season !
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 18:28:09 GMT
Seems a shame to discount Austin's goal at Southampton. And 12 goals against as well harr is not up to Harlow's standard Lol Andrew , just spotted that :0) Its the results that keep frying your brain ? Why doesn't Hoddle come down and get involved . RedKapp doesn't do much near the pitch side either . I see him take a walkie talkie / phone call was that instructions from Hoddle or the Mrs saying if he will be in a better mood this week ?
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Post by timewaster on Oct 5, 2014 18:35:13 GMT
And 12 goals against as well harr is not up to Harlow's standard Lol Andrew , just spotted that :0) Its the results that keep frying your brain ? Why doesn't Hoddle come down and get involved . RedKapp doesn't do much near the pitch side either . I see him take a walkie talkie / phone call was that instructions from Hoddle or the Mrs saying if he will be in a better mood this week ? Hi mate Maybe Arry doesn't want Hoddle to involved on matchdays McClaren was the same I think
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 18:36:00 GMT
To make matters worse . Everton nearest team to bottom three, they won't stay there .
We will not pick up more pts from Liverpool , Villa,Chelsea and City than teams like Palace and Stoke collect in their 4 games .
I see us about 7 pts from safety by the time we play Newcastle , Will only be nearly 1/3 rd thro the season then but defeats breed despondency and after every defeat it gets tougher .
It's early days in the season but see there being no fight from Redknapp now , please walk away why we can appreciate you for what you managed last year.
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 18:40:44 GMT
Just add Tony Fernandes last tweet ?
"JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH ". We all know that , question is what will be done about it to get the team playing sharp, motivated , passionate football games and back to winning ?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 5, 2014 19:06:55 GMT
Lots of crap about being positive and we'll turn it around
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Post by timewaster on Oct 5, 2014 19:08:47 GMT
There are no easy games in the premiership Unless you are at home to QPR
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 5, 2014 19:24:54 GMT
WHO? I don't want Les Ferdinand or Glen Hoddle or Sherwood (or Joey Barton)
Not sure about Pulis
Who else?
Moyes would be great - but he would probably want a bigger, more stable club than us
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Post by wrenboy61 on Oct 5, 2014 19:43:22 GMT
WHO? I don't want Les Ferdinand or Glen Hoddle or Sherwood (or Joey Barton) Not sure about Pulis Who else? Moyes would be great - but he would probably want a bigger, more stable club than us Not sure about Moyes he is damaged goods!!! Also never been sure about Pulis but one thing is for sure his team would be fit as the style of football he plays you need to be. When Redknapp arrived I thought we would be attacking teams all the time never taking a negative approach to games and was looking forward to being entertained but to be honest it has been some of the worse football I have watched at Loftus Road and just can not see him being able to change it any time soon. I'm fed up to the back teeth of his excuses about fitness. We're into the second week in October and they're still not fit so my suggestion Harry is to put the balls away and get them running over the next two weeks during the International break!!!!
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Post by rousdonhoop on Oct 5, 2014 20:07:23 GMT
please go
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 20:17:27 GMT
All I see is excuse after excuse , next he will be blaming the fact we went up thru the playoffs and had less time to prepare than everyone else .
The whole thing smells of incompetence
Soo many chiefs but still no points .
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Post by Hogan on Oct 5, 2014 20:39:36 GMT
According to Harry the following are due in part or whole to blame for your predicament:
Players lack of fitness
Poor pre-season
Players signed (some) had time off due to world cup
Lack of goals/goal threat
Shortage of striker options
Who is responsible for all of the above?
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Post by scarletpimple on Oct 5, 2014 20:53:36 GMT
Do the right thing arry, and fall on yer sword, take your mates with you, the football last season was bad, but fark me its worse this season.
Get pulis in football cant be any worse under him but at least he will get the team working and organized.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 5, 2014 21:43:10 GMT
I know what we need - another coach and a director of football !!
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Post by harr on Oct 5, 2014 21:49:03 GMT
We will have more coaches and directors of football soon than players . Maybe we can give them a run out ?f
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 5, 2014 22:34:39 GMT
My thoughts exactly, Sir Les could lead the attack. Triffic lad
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Post by Markqpr on Oct 5, 2014 22:50:55 GMT
Getting rid of Harry now is just further papering over the chasms that exist at the club and would only serve to prove that the board do not know anything about football, that they only have one stock response to our problems and the cycle will just keep perpetuating it's-self.
We've got far bigger problems at the club than Harry Redknapp.
Sort out the training ground (which is something we are currently doing thank god), sort out the finances so we don't have to get rid of the team in the event of relegation or promotion, instill some stability and then get a young manager in for the long term, instead of the knee jerk, balance sheet bullsh!t we're currently practising.
First and foremost we're a football club, a sporting institution, secondly we're a business. Get the first right and the second will be successful. Let the second dictate the first and we'll just continue to repeat failure.
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Post by tom007 on Oct 5, 2014 23:06:17 GMT
10 games so 3 left thats what i think.if still bottom after 10 games then he should just walk.i think hoddle is there waiting to take over.
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Post by nomar on Oct 5, 2014 23:35:09 GMT
The sad thing is that these are Redknapp's players though.
If they can't be arsed to play for him then is someone else really going to come in and change things?
Something is rotten in this club. Too many people only interested in making money and using QPR as a vehicle to do it. I doubt any of them truly really care about the club.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 6:07:57 GMT
Well spoken!!!! The problems we have below would be solved with a decent manager like above.
Players lack of fitness
Lack of goals/goal threat
Shortage of striker options.
Its time to move on TF and either sack him or ask him to resign. Please do not make the error in waiting until the new year, as by then we will be back in the Championship.
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Post by harr on Oct 6, 2014 7:08:07 GMT
The lack of fitness really concerns me , to have players not fit is laughable.
That's the main reason we are 20 th in the league .
All in all if people want to keep Harry rather than go through the revolving Manager door, fair enough .
But why would we keep Rednapp if he hasn't got many more points than Hughes pathetic and season ending 4 after 12 games, surely he would have to go.
TF isn't stupid he knows how much on paper the quality of players has gone up in these last 2 years so I don't think he's naive enough to keep him unless that pts total goes up rapidly in next 4-5 games .
I think most of us know if we leave it too long we are going back to the Championship but of course with that comes a possible big fine ? Another fact that affect TF making a decision quite soon?
To be on such a low points total once again is pathetic. Warnock was the only one that got us off to a good start,he was gone soon after Christmas. Harry has to go , very soon .
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Post by ingham on Oct 6, 2014 9:04:14 GMT
Is there any reason to suppose that the Club appoints managers to win matches? Not just under Fernandes, but generally. Would a 'business' - a large store, for example - rely on a manager in the way football clubs seem to, if they had to sack them every few months, or at the most every few years, and ALWAYS lost money heavily on the basis of the decisions those managers made?
Surely, unless the 'manager' was just window-dressing to reassure the punters, they would find some other way of making their 'business' successful and profitable? These ultra-successful entrepreneurs who know so much about making money..
Where promotion is concerned, we have occasionally appointed managers with the nous - and the track record - to achieve it. Warnock and Holloway spring to mind. But promotion from the second or third tier is something the Club has done a number of times, and is within our reach in the way that winning the title is within Arsenal's reach if they can up their game a bit.
Once we're in the top flight, we seem to be looking, not for the equivalent of Holloway or Warnock, but for a 'name' of some kind, but not the kind of person with real class and a solid track record of achievement, there would be no reason, in the modern Premier League set-up, for such a person to come to a small club like QPR.
We go for managers who themselves embody exactly the vagueness of expectation that hangs over clubs like ours. Nearly men, blokes who had a good spell somewhere, once, not enough to establish them at the top, but good enough to induce struggling clubs to pay them millions just to perpetuate that sense of expectation for a few months or a year or two. Then, when it is obvious that expectation is not clinging to him in his current position, he is shipped off to some other bunch of hopefuls, who declare he is the man to turn their fortunes around.
Then, iIn a few years, the regime itself changes. They've done the deals they wanted to do - bought and sold shares, made loans, bought or sold or borrowed or lent against properties - and they cash in, and a new regime arrives with the same old talk and the same old expectations.
Even managers who do well for a season or two are soon gone. Even our best managers were soon somewhere else in the event they actually DID get it together.
If we can work this out, why do we think they didn't work it out long ago. Why suppose they are here for anything BUT the money. All of them.
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Post by Dufster on Oct 6, 2014 11:53:49 GMT
Our primary Target this season is survival, so I think its way too early to be talking like this...the last thing we need is a change of management. Got to stick with it and give them some more time!
We went back into this incredibly difficult division knowing we had a solid nucleus of players but still needing additional fire power and further strengthening at the back. But we only got what we could in that window.
They definatley didnt get enough pre season and a lot of players did come in late....we saw that in the warm up games!
Agreed the team have got to dig in fight for each other and us get behind them, but if we can improve our point average a little bit until the January window then we wont be in too bad a shape! (IMO Hull were incredibly lucky to get 3 points on opening match day)
We've got a good Chairman who will look to get in a few others (Defoe?) to give us the push we'll need for the second half of the season.
Lets not let the situation control us, instead control the situation!
17th Place....I'll shake hands with anyone for that right now!
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Post by Macmoish on Oct 6, 2014 12:05:16 GMT
Pre-Season, I really didn't think it was going to be a struggle.
We had "Lessons Learned" and we werent going to dismantle or radically change our promotion squad. Evolution not revolution
There's an excuse for injuries.
I don't think theres any excuse for the other players not to be fit.
And there's no excuse for a poor pre-season schedule - whoever was responsible. That's incompetence
As for Remy going: Yes there are excuses. We thought he was staying. But that in of itself showed a total faith in a player!
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