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Post by paulmason on Jul 1, 2015 7:52:04 GMT
You are getting my point. What is unveiled later, may not be what people voted for last year. We will get what QPR and Nike want to give us. Real Scenario Three kits are voted on and there is a clear winner with 40% of the vote. Why would Nike/QPR provide a kit that 60% of people did not want? Same reason we got a government 65% of the country didn't want...... Have a look at Greece, that could/would have been us if the left wing socialist lunatics you students are brainwashed to love got in.
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Post by nadera78 on Jul 1, 2015 8:32:51 GMT
Same reason we got a government 65% of the country didn't want...... Have a look at Greece, that could/would have been us if the left wing socialist lunatics you students are brainwashed to love got in. Anyone who honestly believes that the UK and Greek economies were, or are, anything alike needs to go and have a lie down in a dark room. For a couple of decades. It's the most economically illiterate statement George Osborne has ever said - and there's quite a list.
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Post by paulmason on Jul 1, 2015 8:43:51 GMT
The economies are not the same, as we have one and they don't.
Syriza - The Coalition of the Radical Left in power in Greece are anti Austerity and want to spend more and tax less. They oppose any measures that cuts spending and benefits to their people, who have paid F*** all into their corrupt system.
That pretty much sums up every other party at the last election apart from UKIP and Conservative party, so none should be surprised that the Tories got in. The Liberals and Labour were decimated for their policies, which in some cases, wewre similar to those lunatics in Greece.
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Post by harr on Jul 1, 2015 8:47:30 GMT
Is this that great QPR messageboard QPR Report or PMQ I prefer the SWP discussions
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Post by Bushman on Jul 1, 2015 8:51:24 GMT
Have a look at Greece, that could/would have been us if the left wing socialist lunatics you students are brainwashed to love got in. Anyone who honestly believes that the UK and Greek economies were, or are, anything alike needs to go and have a lie down in a dark room. For a couple of decades. It's the most economically illiterate statement George Osborne has ever said - and there's quite a list. Just to remind posters. There are plenty of places online to discuss world politics. This is not one of them.
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Post by Bushman on Jul 1, 2015 8:56:13 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 1, 2015 9:13:04 GMT
Absolutely agree: No politics - The only Left wingers and right wingers we want mentioned on this board are the ones on the Loftus Road Sacred Turf - Dave Thomas, Mark Lazarus, Trevor Sinclair, Roger and Ian Morgan and so on
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Post by sharky on Jul 1, 2015 9:16:33 GMT
Absolutely agree: No politics - The only Left wingers and right wingers we want mentioned on this board are the ones on the Loftus Road Sacred Turf - Dave Thomas, Mark Lazarus, Trevor Sinclair, Roger and Ian Morgan and so on Hoilett and Mackie too
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Post by nomar on Jul 1, 2015 10:42:34 GMT
I just read that and there is no rule in regards to hoops or stripes other than to say that the player's name and number must be prominant. Everyone else 1 Fabs 0 Exactly right, Lone, but I wanted people to read that for themselves. The reason trotted out by the club doesn't wash for me or other QPR fans and just smacks of laziness and arrogance on Nike's part. Personally, if they submitted that kit to me I'd have sent it back and asked them to redo it with hoops at the back and visible number and lettering just like Dan K Norris has designed online. It was supposed to be a bespoke kit but unless the brief was 'we'd like hoops, but if its too much trouble then just give us Reading's old template and we'll have to lump it' then that is not a bespoke kit. Hoops are a vital part of the clubs identity, which is why its a big deal to majority of QPR fans. Its not Rangers fans being churlish, its about maintaining a tradition and identity and having something visible we can identify with.
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Post by Marc on Jul 1, 2015 10:53:05 GMT
You do know that the pdf linked is not the full in depth rules (it refers to decisions by the Board* so there are ambiguities). It's also for 2014/15 and I believe the proposed changes weren't due to take effect until this coming season
*M7 from page 160: "clearly visible in accordance with guidelines laid down by the Board from time to time"
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Post by nomar on Jul 2, 2015 6:49:43 GMT
You do know that the pdf linked is not the full in depth rules (it refers to decisions by the Board* so there are ambiguities). It's also for 2014/15 and I believe the proposed changes weren't due to take effect until this coming season *M7 from page 160: "clearly visible in accordance with guidelines laid down by the Board from time to time" So where are these hidden rules that the rest of us idiots who obviously know nothing have missed? Thats what most QPR fans are ask8ng to see because when this kit was signed off (by Beard no doubt, which would explain a lot) this was the rulebook in force. No one has yet published online this "new rule" you've been slapping everyone down with. Even Ian Taylor quoted the same law that was in this rulebook to defend this horrendous decision. QPR fans are sick and fed up of being lied to and the reasons for taking away hoops from the shirt so far just seems like more weak a55ed lies to justify decisions made by people who at the time were incompetent or didn't care about what the fans wanted. Or in Beard's case both. Feeling rightly has run high on this and even if you want to accept the Nike/QPR explanation maybe a bit of empathy towards fans who genuinely are upset over this would have been a better response in my opinion.
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 7:22:48 GMT
You do know that the pdf linked is not the full in depth rules (it refers to decisions by the Board* so there are ambiguities). It's also for 2014/15 and I believe the proposed changes weren't due to take effect until this coming season *M7 from page 160: "clearly visible in accordance with guidelines laid down by the Board from time to time" So where are these hidden rules that the rest of us idiots who obviously know nothing have missed? Thats what most QPR fans are ask8ng to see because when this kit was signed off (by Beard no doubt, which would explain a lot) this was the rulebook in force. No one has yet published online this "new rule" you've been slapping everyone down with. Even Ian Taylor quoted the same law that was in this rulebook to defend this horrendous decision. QPR fans are sick and fed up of being lied to and the reasons for taking away hoops from the shirt so far just seems like more weak a55ed lies to justify decisions made by people who at the time were incompetent or didn't care about what the fans wanted. Or in Beard's case both. Feeling rightly has run high on this and even if you want to accept the Nike/QPR explanation maybe a bit of empathy towards fans who genuinely are upset over this would have been a better response in my opinion. FFS, I'm not slapping anyone down with anything! I'm just trying to bring a little balance to things rather than just dismissing everything as lies just because it isn't what I want to hear!
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 7:35:31 GMT
Why do you feel you need too?
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 2, 2015 7:48:56 GMT
If there's some other rule, or elaboration of the rule, beyond the ones published, I'd love the club or someone to find it and post it, so we can know better. Otherwise have to assume that we're all discussing based on the published rule
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 7:59:43 GMT
Why do you feel you need too? Need to what?
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 8:22:31 GMT
Keep telling people why they are wrong.
If it was as you say, the QPR media man would no be quoting last years rules.
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 8:35:04 GMT
Keep telling people why they are wrong. If it was as you say, the QPR media man would no be quoting last years rules. I'm providing an alternative viewpoint. It's called discussion as opposed to what you do which is basically slag people off based on prejudice and assumptions. You really do have a problem with people who have a different view to you, don't you?
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 8:49:46 GMT
I love different opinion's, as mine are normally different to others.
Also, where have I slagged off anyone. I think you will find its the other way round. On the odd occasion I might have strayed, but thats only after being poked.....
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 2, 2015 8:58:09 GMT
Why didnt QPR pre-warn fans wouldnt be hoops on the back?
And why didnt they just show the lack of hoops at the unveiling?
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 9:01:09 GMT
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 9:01:30 GMT
I love different opinion's, as mine are normally different to others. Also, where have I slagged off anyone. I think you will find its the other way round. On the odd occasion I might have strayed, but thats only after being poked..... You don't think calling people morons is slagging them off?
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 9:03:48 GMT
I love different opinion's, as mine are normally different to others. Also, where have I slagged off anyone. I think you will find its the other way round. On the odd occasion I might have strayed, but thats only after being poked..... You don't think calling people morons is slagging them off? Is that it............. The person who sanctioned the new kits is a moron, especially when you see the new Crystal palace (link in a previous post).
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 9:04:28 GMT
I already answered that with regard to other clubs with vertical stripes, obviously they pass the computer testing whereas hoops do not. Maybe you should be directing your ire somewhere else.
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 9:07:44 GMT
I already answered that with regard to other clubs with vertical stripes, obviously they pass the computer testing whereas hoops do not. Maybe you should be directing your ire somewhere else. Serious question - How can a name be more legible going across several colors, as opposed to Blue text in a white hoop, or white text in a blue hoop?
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 2, 2015 9:08:27 GMT
I already answered that with regard to other clubs with vertical stripes, obviously they pass the computer testing whereas hoops do not. Maybe you should be directing your ire somewhere else. Nice find re Crystal Palace: Add that to the verticals... Can someone explain this "computer testing"
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Post by paulmason on Jul 2, 2015 9:10:50 GMT
Could someone tweet QPR's media bloke the link to the Palace kit and ask him to explain why we cant have hoops?
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 2, 2015 9:17:29 GMT
I imagine the club is aware of Fan reactions and questions they're raising
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 9:18:13 GMT
I already answered that with regard to other clubs with vertical stripes, obviously they pass the computer testing whereas hoops do not. Maybe you should be directing your ire somewhere else. Serious question - How can a name be more legible going across several colors, as opposed to Blue text in a white hoop, or white text in a blue hoop? What are you asking me for, I'm not the one who does the testing, I didn't write the code for it. Seriously, I'm just relating what the explanations are. If you want any further information, go and look for it but remember, just because you don't find it, doesn't mean it's not there.
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Post by Marc on Jul 2, 2015 9:20:03 GMT
I already answered that with regard to other clubs with vertical stripes, obviously they pass the computer testing whereas hoops do not. Maybe you should be directing your ire somewhere else. Nice find re Crystal Palace: Add that to the verticals... Can someone explain this "computer testing" Given that vertical stripes seem to all pass and Swansea's away strip (which is hooped) is plain on the back, doesn't this give credence to things?
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Post by Bushman on Jul 2, 2015 10:50:14 GMT
The testing is quite stringent!
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