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Post by gramps on Jan 27, 2013 17:56:39 GMT
Interesting how fickle football fans are. When TF came to us we all loved him; the best thing since sliced bread; our saviour; everything OK now etc., etc., etc.
Things are not good now. Mistakes have been made. TF must go. etc., etc., etc.
Should we escape relegation (unlikely) then TF - the best thing since sliced bread; our saviour; everything OK now etc., etc., etc.
Until ..........................
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Post by mfnc on Jan 27, 2013 17:59:00 GMT
Interesting how fickle football fans are. When TF came to us we all loved him; the best thing since sliced bread; our saviour; everything OK now etc., etc., etc. Things are not good now. Mistakes have been made. TF must go. etc., etc., etc. Should we escape relegation (unlikely) then TF - the best thing since sliced bread; our saviour; everything OK now etc., etc., etc. Until .......................... not me gramps
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Post by Marc on Jan 27, 2013 18:03:53 GMT
I'm pretty sure TF meant that he would fall on his sword and step down as chairman. It isn't just his own money invested in he 66%, in fact his personal share is probably relatively small compared to hi far eastern backers so let's not fly into a blind panic just yet.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2013 18:32:57 GMT
I have no desire for Fernandes to leave, as I've said. But have to say some of the comments I've read on other boards go too far in the opposite direction of "Tony Blameless...Loves QPR, blah, blah, blah..."
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2013 18:34:07 GMT
And somehow bizarely the headline becomes catgeorical sports.ndtv.com/football/leagues/epl/news/item/202598-if-we-go-down-i-go-says-qprs-fernandesIf we go down, I go, says QPR's FernandesQPR are currently fifth points adrift of safety at the bottom of the table in the English top flight and were dumped out of the FA Cup after losing 4-2 at home to third-tier Milton Keynes Dons on Saturday. Agence France-Presse London: Queens Park Rangers' Malaysian chairman Tony Fernandes says he will fall on his sword by resigning if the London club are relegated from the Premier League this season. QPR are currently fifth points adrift of safety at the bottom of the table in the English top flight and were dumped out of the FA Cup after losing 4-2 at home to third-tier Milton Keynes Dons on Saturday. Fernandes, who took charge of the club in August 2011, praised the fans for their support but admitted that he would take responsibility if the club went down. "Attendance was great. Thanks to fans Everything worked. We will fix It. I'm still optimistic," he wrote on Twitter on Sunday. "Many fans attacking me. Doing our best. As I said we won't stop trying. As I have said many times I take all responsibility and will face the music. "Always spirit up. If can't fix it I will be first to go." Fernandes took over at QPR after they were promoted to the top flight and has sacked two managers during his time at the club. Neil Warnock was dismissed in January 2012, with his successor, Mark Hughes, only lasting until the following November, when current manager Harry Redknapp was placed in charge of first-team affairs. Story first published on: Sunday, 27 January 2013 2
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Post by cpr on Jan 27, 2013 18:43:01 GMT
As nomar says lazy journalism.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a story.
Don't forget, it wasn't Fernandes that got rid of Hughes and brought in Redknapp, it was Kamarudin. He's the chairman, not the messiah.
Not sure he could have done any different, he's backed his managers with dosh, what more could anyone ask!
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Post by ingham on Jan 27, 2013 18:47:09 GMT
Why would he leave? Isn't he a supporter ;D. And why does he think we should be behind him? We're behind the Club. We're its supporters. Supporters don't tell other supporters 'you should get behind me'. Why would anyone imagine we would get behind him? Strange how they're always hard-nosed businessmen when they're putting the prices up, running up losses, or clearing off millions the richer, but it's 'poor me' when they're doing badly. If we were run by footballing geniuses, I doubt there would be many complaints. If we were winning matches and trophies, certainly not. It isn't our fault if they're lining their pockets with the Club's money, and breaking all-time records for failing to win. He isn't the Club, and he isn't a supporter. If he was, he couldn't leave. If he is just a speculator, he is following his money, not the Club, and when his money leaves, he does. Look at the money. Leave him to his self-pity. Yes, there may be worse, but is that what we've come to. We're going to pack out a 45,000 capacity ground on the basis that we're bad, but we could be a lot worse? Shouldn't he be feeling sorry for the Club? If he cares about it, that is. But that's our business, isn't it? Responding to any threat to the Club. And threat includes any prospect of a threat, real, perceived, or merely potential. We don't have to wait to find out they aren't everything they claim to be. The Club is real, their claims are just that. In any case, our criticism cannot harm them. If he is absolutely brilliant at football - I mean making decisions, and people like him do nothing BUT make decisions as soon as they walk through the doors, more's the pity - then the Club's triumphs will be sufficient reward. His reputation will be sky high. If we are the success story of the era, the new United, that will speak for itself. Just because a few supporters wondered whether being bottom of the table, apparently still heavily in debt, with a squad of extras from the goon show, and one of the highest paid managers in the world at a Club rated whatever we are rated in world terms - 1, 000th, 1,000,000th, oh, ok, maybe not quite THAT bad - what difference will that make? Funny how it wasn't the supporters' feelings that mattered when they were pushing the prices sky-high, and emptying season ticket holders from the ground to accommodate people like themselves who, as it turned out, didn't want to come. Let him to to them and cry on their shoulders. If I was a managerial genius, and took over the team KNOWING I would have the Club at the top of the English game in 3 seasons, the fact that one or two anxious fans questioned my credentials would be neither here nor there. I would know it was honest, and I would know it was because they cared about the Club. The achievements would win over the doubters, with interest. Let's ask ourselves which of these types ever cared about QPR. Do they keep on coming when they've cashed in and sold up? Do they still 'put their money in' when someone else is running the Club? There aren't many instances, are there. Quite a few, in fact, most of them for 40 years or so, from Gregory to Wright, wanted to close us down., Out of concern for QPR, of course. They are only affected by our criticism when what our fears become reality, and as our doubts have materialised into disaster over and over again, I would say we are a much better reference point for all things QPR than they are. Even so, when the s does hit the f, their position is destroyed, not by doubts expressed in words by supporters, but by their own incompetence. And where is all the money they're putting in? Whose is it? If that is what they are doing, why is the Club never profitable, and how come it is still saddled with a £10 million debt which originated 18 years ago when RICHARD THOMPSON sold the Club? In my view, no-one except the supporters ever puts money in, apart from any money the Club earns from its own successes. QPR provides them with everything. An identity, the supporters, and the supporters' money, a position in the English game, maintained for the best part of a century, and now a place the biggest money competition in football, Great to hear different opinions aired, as always. I certainly am not behind any speculator, but I am always beside any supporter, and opinions are of no significance, for or against, because it is our our commitment to the Club that we have between us. And that's not an opinion, it's a fact.
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Post by nomar on Jan 27, 2013 18:56:00 GMT
This is much ado about nothing.
A few tweets and a journalist who cannot be arsed to actually do some investigative reporting puts 2 and 2 together and comes up with 7 and now everyone's taking it as gospel?
Nothing really to see here, peeps. Move on to the Man City game.
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Post by Hogan on Jan 27, 2013 19:15:32 GMT
People have said how much the club are using social media to communicate with supporters, well they are actually using social media to churn out their PR, but as for proper communication there has been very liitle.
Time now for uncle Tone to explain clearly what he meant by his latest tweets. I have not read anywhere on messageboards of any reaction of our head of media, and i would have thought he would have been the first to come out and say that he will be asking our chairman to relay exactly what he meant, because that is what he should be asking on behalf of Queens Park Rangers and our supporters. Surely as someone who has been in the employ of our great club for 7 years as he keeps reminding us should mean he understands the importance of serving the club and not just the chairman.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2013 19:35:07 GMT
I have a feeling that our Official tweeters, responding to some people complaints have also take their ball home - and won't tweet - unless it's positive. Wait till after we beat Manchester City!
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Post by Roller on Jan 27, 2013 19:55:44 GMT
Regardless of what TF actually means by this I find the timing particularly poor. Redknapp is struggling to get players to commit to QPR in this transfer window and now the man representing our majority shareholders may be stepping down. Yet another reason not to sign.
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Post by alfaranger on Jan 27, 2013 20:18:01 GMT
Why would he leave? Isn't he a supporter ;D. And why does he think we should be behind him? We're behind the Club. We're its supporters. Supporters don't tell other supporters 'you should get behind me'. Why would anyone imagine we would get behind him? Strange how they're always hard-nosed businessmen when they're putting the prices up, running up losses, or clearing off millions the richer, but it's 'poor me' when they're doing badly. If we were run by footballing geniuses, I doubt there would be many complaints. If we were winning matches and trophies, certainly not. It isn't our fault if they're lining their pockets with the Club's money, and breaking all-time records for failing to win. He isn't the Club, and he isn't a supporter. If he was, he couldn't leave. If he is just a speculator, he is following his money, not the Club, and when his money leaves, he does. Look at the money. Leave him to his self-pity. Yes, there may be worse, but is that what we've come to. We're going to pack out a 45,000 capacity ground on the basis that we're bad, but we could be a lot worse? Shouldn't he be feeling sorry for the Club? If he cares about it, that is. But that's our business, isn't it? Responding to any threat to the Club. And threat includes any prospect of a threat, real, perceived, or merely potential. We don't have to wait to find out they aren't everything they claim to be. The Club is real, their claims are just that. In any case, our criticism cannot harm them. If he is absolutely brilliant at football - I mean making decisions, and people like him do nothing BUT make decisions as soon as they walk through the doors, more's the pity - then the Club's triumphs will be sufficient reward. His reputation will be sky high. If we are the success story of the era, the new United, that will speak for itself. Just because a few supporters wondered whether being bottom of the table, apparently still heavily in debt, with a squad of extras from the goon show, and one of the highest paid managers in the world at a Club rated whatever we are rated in world terms - 1, 000th, 1,000,000th, oh, ok, maybe not quite THAT bad - what difference will that make? Funny how it wasn't the supporters' feelings that mattered when they were pushing the prices sky-high, and emptying season ticket holders from the ground to accommodate people like themselves who, as it turned out, didn't want to come. Let him to to them and cry on their shoulders. If I was a managerial genius, and took over the team KNOWING I would have the Club at the top of the English game in 3 seasons, the fact that one or two anxious fans questioned my credentials would be neither here nor there. I would know it was honest, and I would know it was because they cared about the Club. The achievements would win over the doubters, with interest. Let's ask ourselves which of these types ever cared about QPR. Do they keep on coming when they've cashed in and sold up? Do they still 'put their money in' when someone else is running the Club? There aren't many instances, are there. Quite a few, in fact, most of them for 40 years or so, from Gregory to Wright, wanted to close us down., Out of concern for QPR, of course. They are only affected by our criticism when what our fears become reality, and as our doubts have materialised into disaster over and over again, I would say we are a much better reference point for all things QPR than they are. Even so, when the s does hit the f, their position is destroyed, not by doubts expressed in words by supporters, but by their own incompetence. And where is all the money they're putting in? Whose is it? If that is what they are doing, why is the Club never profitable, and how come it is still saddled with a £10 million debt which originated 18 years ago when RICHARD THOMPSON sold the Club? In my view, no-one except the supporters ever puts money in, apart from any money the Club earns from its own successes. QPR provides them with everything. An identity, the supporters, and the supporters' money, a position in the English game, maintained for the best part of a century, and now a place the biggest money competition in football, Great to hear different opinions aired, as always. I certainly am not behind any speculator, but I am always beside any supporter, and opinions are of no significance, for or against, because it is our our commitment to the Club that we have between us. And that's not an opinion, it's a fact. If I had have printed out Ingham posts from the moment I started following this messageboard to now I would have a journal of one of the most comprehensive insights into British football that's been written. Not just about the current problems that wash round QPR but for for the face of British football in general. The study is the same every time. The conclusion is the same every time. It doesn't make pleasant reading at any time if you are hoping for for a reason to believe in our current owners. By 'believe' I mean that they are in this for something other than themselves. For a short while we, and TF & Co will walk the same path and if we win a few games the conversation will be pleasant and he/they will assure us that it will be ok in the end and that we should 'keep the faith'. For a short time we will bury our heads in the sand and keep hoping, why, because we want to. It's too hard to countenance the end of all things QPR (as we know it), so we won't do it. We will think after every victory that in some way, somehow we will suddenly have the prospect of becoming a well ordered, well run club. Dont think so! We all did arithmetic in infant and junior school, it still holds good today. 2 + 2 never did make five, whatever Tony & Co say.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 27, 2013 20:20:04 GMT
Regardless of what TF actually means by this I find the timing particularly poor. Redknapp is struggling to get players to commit to QPR in this transfer window and now the man representing our majority shareholders may be stepping down. Yet another reason not to sign. Excellent point. That just shows how poorly educated and naive our club is.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 27, 2013 20:23:23 GMT
Hasnt Tony always said if things didnt work out, he'd step down and let someone else take over as Chairman but stay a stokeholder in the club? Since when did this turn into leave the club entirely? As for sacking managers, I dont ever recall him saying he wouldnt sack Warnock? And yes, he stood by Hughes for as long as he could until Hughes had pretty much sacked himself. But arent we glad he did that now? OK, he said he would keep Warnock if we were 17th before Xmas. Which we were.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 27, 2013 20:35:42 GMT
I can see that Fernandes is becoming the new Hughes; from the anger directed at any criticism which is mistakenly branded as the Out Brigade.
Nobody wants Tony out.
But sometimes he doesn't help himself with all this contradiction; tweeting about stability and firing managers every 6 months and constantly changing the squad. Just don't talk about stability and confuse people if you don't know what stability means in football and how does it work.
He has big stadium plans, academies, etc, and one day, he gets a couple of angry tweets - and bang: maybe I'm off.
As Roller said; these kind of statements don't help stability either.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2013 21:41:58 GMT
I posted this a couple of weeks ago: The "Evolving" Perspective of Tony Fernandes + This from couple weeks ago "QPR KEEPS ME AWAKE AT NIGHT" Snippet quote by Tony Fernandes in Financial Times article re Air Asia "...Mr Fernandes retorts that 80 per cent of his time is spent on AirAsia – but admits football is a source of greater worry. “QPR keeps me awake at night, not the aviation business,†he says.." Financial Times qprreport.blogspot.com/2013/01/chelseayear-flashback-warnocks.htmlTHE EVOLVING PERSPECTIVE OF CHAIRMAN TONY FERNANDES Reading almost like a Diary: Some of QPR Chairman Tony Fernandes Tweets since the beginning of September through the end of November - pertaining to QPR - From Exuberance and Optimism to Defiance to Fortitude to Vagues Hopes Tony Fernandes â€@tonyfernandes August 30, 2012 Grenero is a massive signing and one that in years to come we will always par ourselves on the back Stephane MbiA has signed to QPR. Thank you to all for all the hard work. August 31 Stepane Mbia has signed for QPR. That's the window done. Very pleased. September 1 On my way to manchester then to spa. Not expecting much. This is all about development. Patience. In both F1 and football Super game. We could have sneaked a draw. But was real happy. Its coming together. They are the champions. I have had it with such inane comments. Stick to supporting your club. We are doing finr. RT @davidpick1987: @tonyfernandes seriously Tony, 3 games in and 1 point isn't "coming together". It's "relegation material". And on that wage bill... September 15 Its a shame about the injuries. We lost shape for a while. But we came back in 2nd half. We could have won. Fingers crossed on injuries. Very proud. RT @jasonlo1: Tight match. @tonyfernandes must be proud of the boys. RT @tunetalk: FT QPR 0 - Chelsea 0 #QPR #CFC RT @ghostbustar: @amit_Bhatia99 @tonyfernandes Great performance, so proud of the team, dare to dream #hail Cesar #COYRS I should add that these are first points chelsea dropped. Team is coming together. September 23 I don't care about the result. But boy that was one hell of a QPR performance. 12 months ago to now what a difference plus injuries. But what I loved was the spirit of clint hill that's what I love of qpr. September 30 Mark hughes is the best thing to happen to QPR. We have been unlucky with injuries. Bar swansea we have looked a top top side. Lots to do. But feeling good. Its not all about result on monday. Keep the faith. October 1 Bad game but I expected it. Need all injured players back. After West Brom. And get everyone to match fitness. Patientce. Keep calm. October 2 Mark will sort it out. Look at his record. We would have won if we didn't go down to 10. I am relxaed and confident. Let's get all our players back and in form and fit and then let's see. Think of spurs. RT @oliverjones1988: @tonyfernandes so Mr Tony, after such a tepid display for 75 minutes yesterday, any tips on how we're going to get out of this hole? Keep calm. 6 games does not make a season. I have learnt from many wise chairman That's all we had. We have 5 injuries in the back. That's the problem. You fans have to realise. It will come good. So much quality RT @sophie_Vicki_x: @tonyfernandes. We need defence hill should never play LB and what happened on the right we need back up for our when we have injuries Correct. Don't worry. I'm calm and want to build stability which is what most fans want. There are many out there who are clueless RT @ianexall1: @tonyfernandes QPR fans must keep the faith Tony. Knee jerk reactions will not help. We have had constant hiring and firing in the past. Thank you. Some sense. We played last night with 4 centrebacks. The most brilliant manager would struggle. T @reid16alan: @tonyfernandes hello Tony. I have supported Rangers for 59 years. I respect your support for Mark Hughes more to follow QPR fans don't worry. We have a great manager. New trainning ground , new stadium. Great players. This will make us stronger. Along the way to success there will be bumps. I love what we are building and I love being a RANGER. Just love it. RT @themodfather2: @tonyfernandes well done Tony, no need to panic, only a few games in, all behind you, one team, one love #qpr pls rt that for all our fans October 5 Sorry you feel that way. You have a short term view of things. RT @qprh92: @tonyfernandes I must be the only QPR fan that thinks this but your money has ruined my club who I have supported for 20+ years please leave You couldn't have said it better. Just told the daily telegraph that. RT @clivetymms: @tonyfernandes I believe your commitment and leadership will prove my lifelong loyalty to #QPR to be worthwhile. Stability is the key now October 7 For all QPR fans. Fans who analyse properly. I am not changing anything. And all shareholders agree. No team except the first game has outplayed us. We need a consistent 4 defenders not changing every week esp left and right back. Mark is the right man. Thank you. Someone sane on twitter. Hehehehe. RT @supahoopz: Applaud @tonyfernandes push for stability, like AFC. All hinges on MH being right man. Hope he is. The bleating for Redknapp by some is mad. For all those calling for change this is the team that that outplayed spurs gave chelsea a damm good game and you want change. No way. Couldn't agree more. And that's not marks fault. RT @reecedanns: @tonyfernandes we dont want hughes sacked we just need to stop conceding silly goals its giving the team uphill struggle to get points Only one I'm going to reply to just to illustrate a point Mbia was injured. RT @paulmoorhead1: @tonyfernandes ,but yet again hughes made another strange tactical decision by bringing off mbia and leaving on park? Traorre is only fit to play 45 mins. I hope some of you are beginning to understand instead of making big statements. Hill is not a left back. He did his best. We had no choice. RT @paulmoorhead1: @tonyfernandes wba got behind us& time again in the first half down Hills side,Traore came on at half time and they didnt get behind us once October 9 You think I'm not. But if we have all fit and some quality time we have an excellent squad. Keep the faith. RT @kingpedro77: @tonyfernandes what happens if we keep losing tony. This is a tough league. No easy result. Fans are scared we are going down agai October 13 Thanks. No one knows for sure. But we certainly trying and have built a good foundation. RT @smutlamp: @tonyfernandes @hasbean I've been following QPR since 1968 & think we are going in right direction under your guidence October 21 Now onto Everton. Good team out there. Good bench. Tough game. Tough 2 games. But its in our hands. Good point. Lots of work to do. Everton are a top side. We were unlucky with some ref calls. Bring on Arsenal. Ill be there at the emirates. Lots and lots of positives. Stop wasting your time and energy on negative tweets. QPR needs time and stability. We have great sqaud great manager great ceo. Takes time and a bit of luck. See you at Emirates. Thank you. Just look at arsenal and everton. That's the standard we are aiming for. RT @tsolkasn: @tonyfernandes I admire your patience and above all commitment, it's a lesson to us all. Lead by example. October 22 Completley understand.so am I. Have some faith. Worked for me most times. Its tough league. RT @boblar1968: @tonyfernandes we are just passionate Tony. Have to be worried when your performance is good and the result not what you deserve. #8gamesin October 29 Completley right. Mark has my backing and the shareholders. We need a little luck and no injuries. What's written in the press is all rubbish. RT @wayneoeyers: @tonyfernandes we must stick with Hughes. We haven't been playing poorly. The club needs stability, manager change would be suicide! I honestly believe we have one of the best managers in the premier league. And we are in for the long term. Whatever happens. We love QPR. Ill be there at reading so rangers fans ill be available to meet and chat. Trust me on this one. Keep the faith. Stability is the key. November 4 We are doing our best. Keep the faith. Need to get behind the team now. Positive energy is what we need. RT @martingreen_qpr: Message to the entire QPR team, staff, manager and dick head @tonyfernandes. Please don't F*** up another one of my weekends. A game of 2 halves. Players getting used to premier league and different type of teams. Keep calm we will come good. Plenty of time. Many opps to win the game. I'm calm. Won't please everyone. But as I keep saying stability is key. November 10 Keep the faith. Panic is not what the doc ordered. RT @lauraastral: @tonyfernandes hope ur confidence and commitment pays off love ur calmness We got to cut out errors. One error cost us and we got to take our chances. Team played as planned. Must win next win. No panic. Table is compressed. Defense was awful now fairly solid. Midfield strong. Got to score now. Off to boston now for airasia roadshow. Love everything about QPR. Nothing comes easy but the pain will be worth in. We are in for the long run. We live and learn. Doing our best. November 16 Won't be happening. For the one millionth time. Hahaha. Stability. RT @timnmcollins: jeffro_QPR @tonyfernandes @lieyam_M Maybe you can practice the "You're fired" line on Mark Hughes? #QPR November 17 I feel gutted. I have put my heart and soul into this with my other shareholders. And done all we can to give support to players and all management. I can only apologise to the QPR fans. we keep fighting. Let me tell you Fans come first. Everyone including me let the fans down. Many of us need a hard look at themselves. QPR has amazing fans. They deserve better. November 23 Though we have a change the long term vision of the club remains and much good work has already been done and will continue. This is a club where the chairman and shareholders look at all things in a long term view. But also take the views of the fans who are the most important constituents of the club. To us fans come first. November 27 Something to build on. Our first clean sheet away from home. Need to take our chances though. Clean sheet away from home. Need to take our chances though.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 27, 2013 21:43:32 GMT
What does our debt look like now? So if he goes and we go down, who likeley would raise the cash with aanother Holdngs Co? Very dodgy risk only by a Hedge fund that cant lose. Better start looking.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 27, 2013 21:51:28 GMT
This from December 4, 2012
Tony Fernandes Tony Fernandes â€@tonyfernandes - All QPR fans keep the faith. We are here for the long term. Speaking to Harry a lot. We make our own luck but would be great to get some. - Got our backs against the wall. But that's when we are at our best.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 27, 2013 22:10:54 GMT
Well, it'd be really lame if he used the Twitter-fans-don't-want-me argument to bail out and leave.
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Post by Hogan on Jan 27, 2013 22:13:50 GMT
This from December 4, 2012 Tony Fernandes Tony Fernandes â€@tonyfernandes - All QPR fans keep the faith. We are here for the long term. Speaking to Harry a lot. We make our own luck but would be great to get some. - Got our backs against the wall. But that's when we are at our best. He is full of contradictions.
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 28, 2013 0:35:35 GMT
Can't beleive some so called fans on Twitter..feeling very ashamed right now, tf doesn't deserve any abuse he's put everything in to this club. The players however on the whole need to take a long hard look at themselves.
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Post by Hogan on Jan 28, 2013 1:10:49 GMT
Can't beleive some so called fans on Twitter..feeling very ashamed right now, tf doesn't deserve any abuse he's put everything in to this club. The players however on the whole need to take a long hard look at themselves. I dont twitter so i dont know about what abuse TF has had or is getting, i do know that he is accountable to uf fans and we are entitled to ask questions and expect the club to be run in a certain way. As for unle Tone putting everything in? What is the everything you refer to? From what i can see, he and his people continue to make the same mistakes over and over and they dont learn from them, his people are poor at their jobs and he is very detached from the mechanics of how a football club should be run, although he seems to think he knows because he talks to other football chairmen. So what else has he done? Thrown money at it without a long or medium term strategy and has grand plans of a new stadium of ridiculous size which we do not need. The man speaks to IJ Taylor for football advice, now come on FFS, he said he would have persevered with Hughes if Harry hadn't taken the job, the man is deluded and incompetant, albeit he is a friendly guy and smiles a lot. I could go on but i think you get the picture. He needs to devote a lot of time to QPR and getting to know what really goes on on a day to day basis otherwise he won't learn. He should speak to Amit and Ishaan too, whether he does or not is anyones guess.
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Post by sharky on Jan 28, 2013 1:52:06 GMT
Regardless of what TF actually means by this I find the timing particularly poor. Redknapp is struggling to get players to commit to QPR in this transfer window and now the man representing our majority shareholders may be stepping down. Yet another reason not to sign. ......or a reason to get in quick before a new Chairman stops the spending of money like a miner on payday!!
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Post by powerpump on Jan 28, 2013 4:27:28 GMT
A few observations:
TF is I reckon and -comparative to other club chairmen- a fairly decent bloke.However if my memory serves me correctly he wanted "in" at West Ham, could not do so, and he turned his attention to our club. A lot of these mega rich business tycoons seem to believe that its' good for them to be in control of a Premiership or similar team. But unfortunately its been soap opera and drama all the way for TF. Clever agents/managers/players etc can easily hoodwink a naive businessman as the bottom line is: a good businessman does not necessarily know much or anything about football. And its one crises after another at QPR. In my opinion we have a few quality players(like our Brazilian goalkeeper) but mostly our players are very over rated and grossly overpaid and are mercenaries. They are not bothered about QPR, their only concern is getting massive pay packets. They have no right (nor pride) in wearing our famous blue and white hoops.
With TF's latest pronuncement what I believe he is saying is that he now realizes that sooner rather later he will need to bail out/jump ship, and his statement is merely a prelude to his going. The sad truth may well be that TF is in over his head and that realization is now dawning on him. I just hope that our club does not become the victim in all this, such as what happened with the likes of Portsmouth.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 28, 2013 4:43:47 GMT
Why not... You go down with a bunch of difficult contracts, signed based on wishful thinking; a bunch of 50K'ers that nobody else wants. In one simple word: Trouble
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 28, 2013 6:18:10 GMT
How much debt is the club itself accountable for? I hope TF stays. I hope Harry does too and I hope a lot of self proven deadwood collecting big wages go.
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Post by Roller on Jan 28, 2013 8:33:41 GMT
Looks like our Tony got the vote of confidence he was after.....
Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes
Fantastic response from QPR fans. Good chat with Harry. I'm a fighter so if fans want me to stay I stay whatever happens. End of subject. Thank you all.
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Post by Sabas on Jan 28, 2013 8:35:21 GMT
Looks like our Tony got the vote of confidence he was after..... Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes Fantastic response from QPR fans. Good chat with Harry. I'm a fighter so if fans want me to stay I stay whatever happens. End of subject. Thank you all. The magic of squash.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 28, 2013 9:01:49 GMT
But if you go to a QPR game and we're losing, please don't frown when looking at the Director's Box. It might upset Tony and cause to have another "I quit"
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Post by qprscorpio on Jan 28, 2013 9:20:39 GMT
If under pressure have a game of squash with Amit, then publicise it on Twitter.
Call me a bit of a cynic but starting to feel a little bit played here.
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