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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 11, 2012 12:11:46 GMT
Completely disagree. For a start he's 27 so his legs haven't gone 'with age'. What has Anton actually done wrong here?? He shared insults with Terry, that happens between most opposition players in every single game. He didn't want this to go to court either. Rory - I'm not a fan of Ferdinand and the results & table shows how good he is last season. Don't you think that Ferdinand had a right to say simply say No I do not want this to go to court ? It's not his choice as far as I'm aware. It was a member of the crowd that made the complaint not Anton
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 11, 2012 12:14:45 GMT
Ashley Cole... www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/national/cole-defends-race-charge-terry-1-4728658 You are here News > National Cole defends race charge Terry Published on Tuesday 10 July 2012 14:08 England footballer John Terry should not have been taken to court over racism claims, team mate Ashley Cole said today. Chelsea defender Terry, 31, is accused of calling QPR player Anton Ferdinand a "f****** black c***" during a Premier League game on October 23 last year. He denies a racially aggravated public order offence, saying that he was sarcastically repeating the slur that Ferdinand mistakenly thought he had used. Cole, also 31, told Westminster Magistrates Court: "I think we shouldn't be sitting here." He said that while racism should never be tolerated, repeating what you thought someone said was 'completely different'. Cole said: "If I repeated something that I thought you said, that's totally different than if someone just says something."
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Post by FloridaR on Jul 11, 2012 12:15:05 GMT
lol Mac. Nico's got nothing to do with this unless he is helping the club for no fee !
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Post by lennypaulista on Jul 11, 2012 12:18:38 GMT
Rory - I'm not a fan of Ferdinand and the results & table shows how good he is last season. Don't you think that Ferdinand had a right to say simply say No I do not want this to go to court ? It's not his choice as far as I'm aware. It was a member of the crowd that made the complaint not Anton It was an off duty policeman sitting at home who made the complaint, which was investigated by the police, referred to the CPS who decided to prosecute. Anton has been called as a witness, and as such had no say in whether it went to court or not.
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Post by FloridaR on Jul 11, 2012 12:20:53 GMT
Rory - I'm not a fan of Ferdinand and the results & table shows how good he is last season. Don't you think that Ferdinand had a right to say simply say No I do not want this to go to court ? It's not his choice as far as I'm aware. It was a member of the crowd that made the complaint not Antoni read that earlier so the person who did this is most probably laughing their arse off presently.
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Post by FloridaR on Jul 11, 2012 12:24:41 GMT
It's not his choice as far as I'm aware. It was a member of the crowd that made the complaint not Anton It was an off duty policeman sitting at home who made the complaint, which was investigated by the police, referred to the CPS who decided to prosecute. Anton has been called as a witness, and as such had no say in whether it went to court or not. As soo as this is done the 'off-duty policeman' should be sued for damaging peoples professional integrity and made to pay the costs of this courts freak show.
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Post by blatantfowl on Jul 11, 2012 12:37:02 GMT
It was an off duty policeman sitting at home who made the complaint, which was investigated by the police, referred to the CPS who decided to prosecute. Anton has been called as a witness, and as such had no say in whether it went to court or not. As soo as this is done the 'off-duty policeman' should be sued for damaging peoples professional integrity and made to pay the costs of this courts freak show. The court has already decided there is a case to answer. If not it would not have got this far.
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Post by eastranger on Jul 11, 2012 13:16:29 GMT
This exchange made me smile - prosecutor is right about atmosphere at Loftus Road being better than other grounds and of course Cashley Cole doesn't want to admit it! (From Daniel Taylor's tweets - twitter.com/DTguardian): Prosecutor: "You used to play for Arsenal, nobody makes any noise at the Emirates do they?" Cole: "Am I supposed to laugh at that?" Cole: "If you're saying Loftus Road is louder than the Emirates I'd say: 'no, it's not." Prosecutor: "Ok, let's not have that argument." Cole: "Well, you brought it up."
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Post by fraserinbc on Jul 11, 2012 14:36:02 GMT
At the end of the day this spat between them should of been closed door and the integrity of both players is both shot to pieces for the rest of their careers. At the end of the day, this probably should have been handled by the FA, but neither player had that choice as soon as a member of the public made a complaint to the police. As for the integrity of the players, I cannot for one second imagine this exchange is unusual amongst professional players, and goes to show just how infantile the game is. Essentially it is being played by a bunch of overgrown teenagers still in the school playground. But, I'll still be there watching it when the season starts.
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 11, 2012 15:58:17 GMT
How can you allow statements - when they can't be cross-examined? TELEGRAPH Jose Mourinho: I am certain John Terry is not a racist Jose Mourinho, the former Chelsea manager, today defended the England footballer John Terry accused of abusing Anton Ferdinand, saying: "I am certain that John Terry is not a racist." John Terry racism trial: Chelsea player refuses to apologise to Anton Ferdinand In court: John Terry arrives at Westminster Magistrates' Court Photo: Reuters Telegraph News By Telegraph reporters 3:53PM BST 11 Jul 2012 Chelsea defender Terry, 31, is accused of calling Anton Ferdinand a "f------ black c---" during a Premier League game on October 23 last year. He denies a racially aggravated public order offence, saying that he was sarcastically repeating the slur that Ferdinand mistakenly thought he had used. Former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho provided a written character witness statement. In it he said Terry had an excellent relationship with all the players regardless of ethnicity when he was at the helm between June 2004 and September 2009. Mr Mourinho, who manages Spanish champions Real Madrid, said Terry played a leading role in off-field programmes such as championing the FA's anti racism campaigns and Help For Heroes projects. He said: "I never once witnessed any demonstration of racism or racial abuse or behaviour. "I am certain that John Terry is not a racist." A statement was read to court, copies of which were signed by Terry's team mates, including Frank Lampard, Fernando Torres and Petr Cech, which said: "I have never heard John Terry use any form of racist language and have never heard any suggestion that he may have done so." Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck praised the defendant's character. He said: "I would say, and other people at Chelsea would say, he has an almost uncanny mental strength that when there are some bumps in his personal life he is able to go on the football field and do his job as though nothing is going on. "Other people have it, but I have never seen it like John Terry has it." Earlier team mate Ashley Cole said John Terry should not have been taken to court at all. Cole, also 31, told Westminster Magistrates Court: "I think we shouldn't be sitting here." He said that while racism should never be tolerated, repeating what you thought someone said was 'completely different'. Cole said: "If I repeated something that I thought you said, that's totally different than if someone just says something." Cole said on the day of the match at Loftus Road, he saw Ferdinand make a fist gesture to imply sex and could see him saying something about "Bridgey" or "black". "I can't make out - him either saying Bridgey (Cole made the fist gesture) or black." He said he thought QPR centre-half Ferdinand's taunts were "not necessary" and did not shake his hand after the game. He did not hear Terry say anything in reply to the goading, the court heard. Later in the game, Terry told Cole he thought Ferdinand had accused him of using a racist obscenity. After the match, Cole was present when Terry asked Ferdinand what had happened "I think John said 'Did you think I called you a black c---, did you think I was being racist?' Then I said 'Did you think John was being racist? Anton said 'No, no'." The two players then shook hands and went their separate ways. Cole described Terry as "a close friend", with whom he had played at Chelsea and for England for six or seven years. But he said there was a "conflict" because he is also friends with Ferdinand and his brother Rio. He was asked by George Carter-Stephenson QC, for Terry: "Did you want to get involved in the situation?" "No." The barrister asked about a statement Cole made after the match. Mr Carter-Stephenson said: "When you made the statement what was in your mind?" Cole replied: "The FA summoned me to do it." Mr Carter-Stephenson continued: "Did you feel there was any conflict?" Cole said: "Yeah. JT is my team-mate and friend; Anton and Rio and his family, I've known for a long time." He said Terry would laugh off taunts on the football pitch. "He would probably laugh about it, it's part and parcel of the game and you get used to it." When asked to describe Terry as a football captain, he said: "He's one of the best, very inspirational." The trial continues. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9392669/Jose-Mourinho-I-am-certain-John-Terry-is-not-a-racist.html
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Post by terryb on Jul 11, 2012 16:57:54 GMT
What was the point of Cole's testiment?
Perhaps I'm wrong but didn't he state that he never heard Terry say anything on the pitch? That would rule out anyone other than Terry stating that Ferdinand had accused him of making the rasist comment.
He also said he hadn't heard what Ferdinand had said to Terry, apart from it may have been Bridge, it may have been black.
At least it can't have hurt the prosecution.
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Post by cpr on Jul 11, 2012 20:43:37 GMT
Bloody daft this, Terry's not charged with being a racist. Anyone's opinion on whether he's a racist or not is totally irrelavent. He's only charged with what he said.
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Post by cowleyhoop on Jul 11, 2012 21:00:41 GMT
Rumour is after Cole and Jose's input as defence witnesses Terry's been told to expect the courts to apply for special dispensation to bang the 3 of them upp for a 10 stretch
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Post by cpr on Jul 11, 2012 21:09:26 GMT
Rumour is after Cole and Jose's input as defence witnesses Terry's been told to expect the courts to apply for special dispensation to bang the 3 of them upp for a 10 stretch 10 stretch, preferably on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 23:00:27 GMT
Rumour is after Cole and Jose's input as defence witnesses Terry's been told to expect the courts to apply for special dispensation to bang the 3 of them upp for a 10 stretch 10 stretch, preferably on this. That rack is fair enough in my opinion SWP could do with a go on that as well
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2012 7:08:40 GMT
SKY John Terry Race Trial: Final Speeches Due 4:13am UK, Thursday 12 July 2012 Chelsea and England footballer Ashley Cole (C) arrives to attend the trial of his team-mate John Terry at Westminster Magistrates court in London. Video: Cole Backs Teammate Terry In Racism Trial Email John Terry's trial for allegedly using a racist insult continues later with final speeches from the defence and prosecution. The 31-year-old is accused of accused of calling Anton Ferdinand a "f****** black c***" during a Premier League game on October 23 last year. He denies a racially aggravated public order offence, and claims that he was sarcastically repeating the slur that Ferdinand mistakenly thought he had used. On Wednesday, England and Chelsea team mate Ashley Cole said Terry should not have been brought to court over the claims. Cole, also 31, told Westminster Magistrates' Court: "I think we shouldn't be sitting here." He said while racism should never be tolerated, repeating what you thought someone said was "completely different". Ashley Cole pictured arriving in court for John Terry's racism trial Ashley Cole arriving at court on Wednesday Cole said: "If I repeated something that I thought you said, that's totally different than if someone just says something." The court was read a statement from former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, who denied Terry was racist. Several players - including Frank Lampard, Fernando Torres and Petr Cech - had signed copies of a prepared statement that said: "I have never heard John Terry use any form of racist language and have never heard any suggestion that he may have done so." It is expected that prosecution and defence counsel will give their closing speeches today, and Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle will give his verdict tomorrow afternoon. news.sky.com/story/959139/john-terry-race-trial-final-speeches-due
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2012 9:00:52 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2012 10:14:19 GMT
Richard Conway BBC @richard_conway Prosecution asking Magistrate to consider lip-reading evidence and consider if John Terry's words were "an insult or a question". Retweeted by BBC News (UK)
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Post by lennypaulista on Jul 12, 2012 11:17:49 GMT
As the defence has questioned the reliability of Anton as a witness I am puzzled as to why the prosecution never mentioned the Barcelona incident. Surely there is a similarity in JT's comments then: 1) "I did not deliberately strike the player," insisted Terry to the touchline reporter immediately after the incident
Followed by:
2)"I've seen the replay and it does look bad," he said. "I'm not that type of player to intentionally hurt anyone. I've raised my knee which I maybe shouldn't have done in hindsight. But hopefully people who know me as a person, as a player [know] I'm not that type of player"
Do those sort of comments make him more reliable in his account of events?
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Post by birchambluerinse on Jul 12, 2012 12:39:44 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Guilty me lord..[/glow] Attachments:
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Post by cpr on Jul 12, 2012 12:41:02 GMT
The magistrate would not allow it, it would not be pertinent to the case, only try to prove he said it. Of course, positive character references are allowed but not negative ones. However, defence has carte blanche to destroy the character of any witness. The defnce seems to have forgotten he's not charged with being a racist. Like Superckat said, he'll get off!!!!
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Post by londonranger on Jul 12, 2012 13:40:33 GMT
Verdict Friday acording to ESPN. I heard the worst he could get would be about a 20 grand fine. Source was Sky sports.
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2012 13:47:19 GMT
TELEGRAPH Clarke Carlisle: 'John Terry should be sacked if guilty' Former Queens Park Rangers defender Clarke Carlisle has said that if John Terry is found guilty he should be sacked. Former Queens Park Rangers defender Clarke Carlisle has said that if John Terry is found guilty of racial abuse he should be sacked. Speaking at a press event for his upcoming documentary on racism in football, Carlisle, once awarded the title of "Britain's Brainiest Footballer" in a TV game show and now playing for Northampton Town, âDo I think that football should confirm to the rules and regulations of any other workplace? Yes.â Terry denies a racially aggravated public order offence against QPR player Anton Ferdinand and claimed he was sarcastically repeating a racist slur. The case continues. In the BBC Three documentary Is Football Racist? Carlisle speaks to various football players, including Stan Collymore, John Barnes and Birmingham Cityâs manager Chris Hughton â all of whom say they have suffered racist abuse while playing. Following the Terry incident Collymore used Twitter to highlight the prevalence of racism in football by retweeting many of the exceptionally racist messages posted by fans in support of Terry. Related Articles Terry: Rio wouldn't take my call 11 Jul 2012 John Terry trial: he should not be in court, says Ashley Cole 11 Jul 2012 Terry: I get weekly abuse over affair allegations 10 Jul 2012 Carlisle said: âThere is a tribalism in football and when it comes to supporting your club it seems to supersede 99 per cent of things, and thatâs wrong when it comes to certain issues, but that is the way it is.â Carlisle has been a professional footballer for 15 years and has played for several teams, including Queens Park Rangers, Leeds United and Preston North End. He is also chairman of the Professional Footballersâ Association but claims to have never suffered any racist abuse in his career and was surprised to discover how widespread it is. âMy experience of [the lack of] racial abuse in my football career is not that of many other people,â he said. Is Football Racist? is on Monday on BBC Three at 9.00pm www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9395223/Clarke-Carlisle-John-Terry-should-be-sacked-if-guilty.html
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 12, 2012 13:52:19 GMT
Verdict Friday acording to ESPN. I heard the worst he could get would be about a 20 grand fine. Source was Sky sports. Worst he can get is a ÂŁ2,500 fine
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Post by londonranger on Jul 12, 2012 14:30:01 GMT
Is that it Rore?, maybe I misheard it or who knows?
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jul 12, 2012 14:44:07 GMT
Is that it Rore?, maybe I misheard it or who knows? Yep that's it Bendtner got a ÂŁ80,000 fine for showing his 'Paddy Power' boxers and Terry would only get a ÂŁ2,500 fine for racial abuse
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Post by Macmoish on Jul 12, 2012 14:46:46 GMT
Wouldnt matter if the fine was one penny. If he's convicted....
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Post by cpr on Jul 12, 2012 14:53:27 GMT
Is that it Rore?, maybe I misheard it or who knows? Yep that's it Bendtner got a ÂŁ80,000 fine for showing his 'Paddy Power' boxers and Terry would only get a ÂŁ2,500 fine for racial abuse That's the legal system, as opposed to flaunting the sponsors in a football competition. The Russian, Polish, Spanish and Italian racists got smaller fines.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 3:34:13 GMT
Terry prepares for D-Day in race row case www.cityam.com/sport/terry-prepares-d-day-race-row-caseCourt hears he used âstraightforward racial abuseâ FRANK DALLERES FORMER England captain John Terry will learn today whether he has been found guilty of what was yesterday termed âstraightforward racial abuseâ of QPR footballer Anton Ferdinand during a match last year. A week-long trial and months of claim and counter-claim, which have already seen Terry stripped of the national armband and Fabio Capello resign as head coach, will reach a climax at around 2pm this afternoon when chief magistrate Howard Riddle delivers his verdict. Chelsea defender Terry admits uttering the phrase âf****** black c***â in the direction of Ferdinand during a Premier League match on 23 October 2011, but denies committing a racially aggravated public order offence. He argues that he said the words in a questioning manner in response to what he thought was an accusation of racial abuse. If found guilty, Terry faces a fine of up to ÂŁ2,500 but not a jail term. Prosecutor Duncan Penny QC told Westminster Magistrates Court yesterday that Terry had used the words not as a question but as an insult, in response to taunts about an alleged extra-marital affair with the former partner of then-England colleague Wayne Bridge. âJust as he did with the hand over the mouth to imply bad breath, just as he did with the âf*** off, f*** offâ directed towards Mr Ferdinand, and finally, when he was fed up, he picked up on the topic of Mr Ferdinandâs abuse, namely the extra-marital affair, and retorted with âand yoursâ, or something to that effect, and straightforward racial abuse,â Mr Penny said in his closing argument. The notion that Ferdinand deliberately falsely accused Terry, 31, of racial abuse in the heat of the moment because other barbs had failed was unlikely in the context of their quickfire, tit-for-tat verbal spat, Mr Penny said. âA false allegation of racism would be an accusation which involved more sophisticated thought processes than had hitherto been going on on that football pitch,â he added, on the fourth day of then trial. Ferdinand was âinconsistent and unreliableâ in his testimony, George Carter-Stephenson QC argued for the defence, adding that the prosecutionâs argument was founded on âspeculationâ. âNo matter what the words actually were, if they were or may have been Mr Terry repeating back what he believed Mr Ferdinand had accused him of, then thatâs the end of this particular case,â he said. Carter-Stephenson said it was âinconceivableâ that Terry would have snapped at taunts about the alleged affair, having been subjected to them âhundredsâ of times before. He also suggested it was possible that Terry had misunderstood Ferdinandâs jibes, wrongly interpreting the word âBridgeâ as âblackâ â words the defendantâs Chelsea colleague Ashley Cole told the court on Wednesday he had been unable to distinguish from his standpoint. Capello quit the England job in February in dispute with the Football Association over its decision to strip Terry of the captaincy while the allegations remained. The trial was originally scheduled for February but postponed until after the European Championship, during which Terry played for England in all four games. The trial continues. TERRY TRIAL: EXPLAINED WHAT TERRY SAID All parties agree that John Terry said the following words during an exchange with Anton Ferdinand in the closing stages of Chelseaâs 1-0 defeat at Loftus Road on 23 October last year. âF*** off, f*** off⌠Yeah, yeah⌠F****** black c***⌠F****** knobheadâ THE DISPUTE The case hinges on the intention behind Terryâs words, with two primary explanations. The defence argues that Terry thought Ferdinand had shouted an accusation along the lines of âdid you call me a black c***?â and was repeating it back as a question, in the manner of âf****** black c***?â, before adding âf****** knobheadâ. The prosecution argues that Terryâs words were the latest in a series of insults the pair were exchanging at that moment, and were uttered because Terry became angered at Ferdinand taunting him over an alleged affair. THE THIRD WAY The defence yesterday advanced an alternative explanation: that Terry misunderstood Ferdinandâs verbal volley, wrongly interpreting âBridgeâ as âblackâ. Terryâs Chelsea team-mate Ashley Cole said in his testimony on Wednesday that he believed Ferdinand had shouted one of the two words at Terry, but could not detect which.
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Post by fraserinbc on Jul 13, 2012 5:36:04 GMT
Amusing write up in the New York Times: LONDON â When a soccer player named Anton Ferdinand took the stand in the trial of John Terry, an opposing player who is accused of racially abusing him in a game last year, he seemed embarrassed to tell the court what he himself had said first. âPlease do not worry about the language,â the prosecutor, Duncan Penny, told Mr. Ferdinand. âWhat did you call Mr. Terry?â There followed the first of many paint-peeling profanities, as Mr. Ferdinand, 27, and then Mr. Terry, 31, tried to lay out for the bemused spectators at London Magistratesâ Court what constitutes acceptable on-field chat in a typical professional soccer game. If it was an odd spectacle, hearing such language in a sober British courtroom full of sober British lawyers, so was this an odd case, one seemingly without precedent in British soccer history. Mr. Terry, captain of the Premier League team Chelsea, and captain of the England national team before his arrest, is charged with committing a racially aggravated public order offense â using a racial slur â against Mr. Ferdinand, a defender for Queens Park Rangers, in a game last October. Racism has been a persistent problem in professional soccer, both in Britain and abroad, and the charges against Mr. Terry were intended to demonstrate how seriously law-enforcement officers take the matter. Antiracism campaigners say the case is an important step in their efforts to draw attention to the problem; supporters of Mr. Terry, including many of his teammates, say he is being unfairly singled out and that he is not a racist. Before the court came to the racially abusive remark, it had to establish the context for it, an exercise that provided a startling insight into traditional soccer-field discourse. According to accounts the players gave in court and the transcript of an interview Mr. Terry gave to the police, the encounter began when Mr. Terry angered Mr. Ferdinand by failing to return a ball that had gone out of bounds. Mr. Ferdinand then tauntingly reminded Mr. Terry that he had, to paraphrase, illicitly slept with the girlfriend of Wayne Bridge, another player. The court heard that Mr. Ferdinand enhanced his remark by making what Mr. Terry told the police was âan obscene gesture of a sexual nature,â whereupon Mr. Terry responded with a different gesture meant to suggest, he explained, that âAnton had bad breath.â (He clarified the point in court, saying that he did not mean it literally and that Mr. Ferdinandâs breath, in fact, âdidnât smell.â) In between gestures, the two exchanged long and abusive soliloquies, they related, repeating them for the court. As the argument on the field became more heated, Mr. Terry at one point compared Mr. Ferdinand to male genitalia, and then to female genitalia, in consecutive sentences. Most of these constituted âhandbags,â or ânormal verbal exchanges between the players,â Mr. Terry told the police, according to the transcript. These types of things, the players said, include calling other players fat, or taunting them about how their mothers like to have sex with people in other cities. âHowever unpleasant,â Mr. Terry said, âitâs a fact of the modern game.â Mr. Terry does not deny that in the course of all this he used a racially offensive remark, inserting the word âblackâ between a rude adjective and a rude noun that had already seen a great deal of play in the exchange. But, he said, he was merely using the ârhetoricalâ device of repeating what he (mistakenly, it appears) believed Mr. Ferdinand had accused him of saying in the first place. He added that he often repeated other playersâ insults back to them, as a matter of style. âMy words were responsive and not accusatory,â Mr. Terry told the police. âMy use of these words was intended to make it plain that I had not called himâ â here Mr. Terry repeated the racially offensive term â âand that in reality, Anton was aâ â and here he used a term that was sexually but not racially offensive â âfor even alleging that I had.â He continued: âI felt he was accusing me of making a racist remark, which is simply not true.â Interestingly enough, Mr. Ferdinand says he did not hear Mr. Terry insert the word âblackâ in his insults, but was only alerted to it after his girlfriend showed him a YouTube video in which Mr. Terry could be seen mouthing the language. The complaint that led to the criminal case was made not by Mr. Ferdinand but by an off-duty police officer who saw the game on television. On the stand, Mr. Ferdinand said that he âwould have been obviously very hurtâ had he heard what Mr. Terry said. âWhen someone calls you a [very bad word], thatâs fine,â Mr. Ferdinand said. âWhen someone brings your color into it, it takes it to another level.â The trial has proved divisive in the close-knit world of Premier League soccer. While 16 of Mr. Terryâs teammates presented affidavits saying they had ânever heard Terry use racist language on the pitch or in training,â a number of others â including Mr. Ferdinandâs brother, who plays for Manchester United but is Mr. Terryâs teammate on the England national team â remained silent. In a testy exchange, Ashley Cole, a Chelsea player who is black, told the court that he believed Mr. Terry. âJ. T. was saying he thought Anton had said something about âblackâ and heâs just repeated it,â Mr. Cole said. âThat was it. I think we shouldnât be sitting here. Personally.â The two sides presented their closing arguments on Thursday; the magistrate in the case is expected to rule on Friday. If he loses, Mr. Terry faces a maximum fine of around $3,000, more symbolic â he reportedly makes around $185,000 a week â than substantive. In cross-examination, Mr. Penny, the prosecutor, made it clear that he did not believe Mr. Terryâs explanation. âWhy not just say, âAnton, calm down?â â Mr. Penny asked. To which Mr. Terry replied: âYou wouldnât see many footballers say, âCalm down.â â www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/world/europe/trial-of-soccer-star-terry-revolves-around-foul-language.html?_r=1
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