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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 15:05:41 GMT
I am too much of a luddite to transfer this but go to qpr football violence at St. Pancras or at Luton on utube and watch. It is really chilling. Maybe a fellow computer geek type can do this.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 15:23:26 GMT
Got a lot of grief elsewhere for condeming QPR fan violence and doing a "Name and Shame" (if they are shamed). But I'd say it's just as reprehensible coming from QPR fans as anyone else. Now if you adopt the "Well they started it; we're just defending ourselves" approach, that can probably be applied in many instances for many clubs.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 15:34:10 GMT
Also under QPR violence on U tube is the QPR china game last year, unbelievable, that our club could act this way in a friendly.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 15:40:44 GMT
Yes but that's a different kind of violence to fan violence. And while QPR was reprehensible, Hill was punished. And based on all the stories about the Chinese national team and players engaged in violent acts, since that match, have to wonder what maybe the Chinese players may have done, that we didn't really see on that video.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 16:39:37 GMT
understand that, but remember Hill was a pugilist and that he was hired is beyond me. No it is not fan violence agree but it besmirches our reputation and we get known as a violent organization, despite the statistics.. That I experienced first hand in the bathroom during a Millwall game at home as they were runing amok with open razors. .
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 16:41:48 GMT
Absolutely no way was I defending the QPR club action.
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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 16:52:09 GMT
Understand.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 17:00:15 GMT
In fact, if I went back to my blog at the time, I think you'd probably find some QPR Report comments on how the club was saying nothing after it had said would be an investigation. Of course that reminds me of how the club never actually announced we were playing China (that was QPR Report and other boards that announced it). But that's a totally different subject of discussion! Let me just say: Remember Witney  |
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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 17:21:13 GMT
Wasnt that the game that no one knew about except witney?Im no expert on official sites except ours seems to have their own idea of what is officially official and when it can become official i.e within a couple hours or three days or next week and contains only the bits they want to make official.
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 17:26:05 GMT
Well since you asked...! I'll go back and look. But basically, we arranged a friendly. It was then rescheduled cos we had a FA Cup replay conflict. Then we said nothing about it; Witney were ready for it. At a club/Fan meeting, Paladini said would contact the club; but didn't. And the first Witney knew about the game not being played was when QPR Report contacted Witney United and told them. They were NOT happy. And some QPR fans on the boards mocked the fact that we weren't playing Witney; and called me disloyal for contacting Witney. Etc. (But I don't really remember  |
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Post by QPR Report on Dec 17, 2008 17:30:24 GMT
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Post by londonranger on Dec 17, 2008 17:39:51 GMT
oh gawd. I wish I hadnt asked. But that whole era seemed to be run like a bad Al Pacino film.
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Post by Bushman on Dec 17, 2008 23:48:27 GMT
Got a lot of grief elsewhere for condeming QPR fan violence and doing a "Name and Shame" (if they are shamed). But I'd say it's just as reprehensible coming from QPR fans as anyone else. Now if you adopt the "Well they started it; we're just defending ourselves" approach, that can probably be applied in many instances for many clubs. I do not think there is anything wrong in going down the name and shame route. I am sure we all know a name or two who are still around now who have caused trouble and damage throughout the years in the name of the Rs home and away. I do not see why they should be protected like they are heroes or is it that they are still playground bullies and people fear them. |
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