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Post by Marc on May 12, 2024 11:01:55 GMT
Just settling down to watch Leeds v Norwich
Hoping for a Norwich win, hate Leeds!
Think Southampton will have too much for West Brom and probably Norwich as well.
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Post by sharky on May 12, 2024 15:33:26 GMT
Two no score draws!
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Post by Marc on May 12, 2024 15:47:18 GMT
2 straight knockout games on Thursday then. |
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Post by hitmanrangers on May 12, 2024 18:56:38 GMT
Championship playoff semis always seem to be edgy, given what is at stake. Can’t recall the last one that was effectively decided after the first leg.
What odds it is another 0-0 and both decided on penalties? Norwich and West Brom would take that.
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Post by robindubois on May 13, 2024 9:35:39 GMT
What chance that there are no goals scored in any of the 5 play-off games and the promoted team gets there by winning penalty shoot outs!
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Post by rickyqpr on May 13, 2024 11:53:18 GMT
I must admit, the downside of the play-off set-up is losing on penalties.
Perhaps it should, in the case of a tie, be awarded to the team who finished the higher.
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Post by robindubois on May 16, 2024 8:30:53 GMT
I must admit, the downside of the play-off set-up is losing on penalties. Perhaps it should, in the case of a tie, be awarded to the team who finished the higher. Seems logical but in that case why have the play-offs at all. If we award the game to the team who finished higher in the league simply award the third promotion place to the team that finished third. Too many finals at Wembley have been decided on penalties - so we have clubs playing 46 games to finish third in the league then losing a whole season work with one good save or missed penalty in an extra game. I hear the argument it adds interest at the end of a long season but only for a small percentage of fans for a short period of time, and then extends the season for another 3 weeks to 49 league games for the play off winning team. As far as I can see it is nothing more than TV money spinning. Relegation places are not involved in play-offs - why not if promotion places are. Imagine the last few games interest if the Championship relegation this season had a play off involved. The Championship automatic promotion places went down to the last game of the season - exciting enough - but then we start all over again with a 4 club mini league. As much as I dislike Leeds is it fair that the final promotion place may go to a team who finished 17 points behind Leeds in third place. The same can be said about some of the lower leagues and the National League play off situation is a farce even without the EFL banning a club from playing. The season in the EFL leagues runs over 46 games - that is enough to sort out who should be relegated and promoted. End the season then and give players and clubs the extra time to prepare for the next season. Whoever wins the Championship play offs has minimal time to sort themselves out for what is becoming an almost impossible step up. Of course people will point to the Zamora moment that QPR fans will never forget but should we have even been there? I know nothing will change but worth a chat. |
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Post by rickyqpr on May 16, 2024 17:19:44 GMT
I must admit, the downside of the play-off set-up is losing on penalties. Perhaps it should, in the case of a tie, be awarded to the team who finished the higher. Of course people will point to the Zamora moment that QPR fans will never forget but should we have even been there? I know nothing will change but worth a chat. What a crazy, wonderful day. You made one of the best points for keeping the play-offs. It was unbelievable! |
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Post by robindubois on May 17, 2024 8:20:37 GMT
4-0 and the game over after 20 minutes - that was exciting (for Leeds fans)
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Post by harr on May 17, 2024 9:53:03 GMT
Then straight after Norwich sack the boss 🙄
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Post by robindubois on May 17, 2024 10:32:24 GMT
Then straight after Norwich sack the boss 🙄 In these modern times I'm surprised they did not sack him at half time. Expect another head to roll after tonights game - probably WBA Then watch the click bait start of Marti going to one of the 2 play off failures. Off course that could get worse when the beaten finalists sack their manager. With Hull in 7th having already sacked their manager we could see 4 of the top 7 clubs this season all chopping their managers. We will soon end up with more managerial vacancies in the Championship than clubs with someone in charge. Next comes the merry go round as these guys all rotate positions. Mr Bean might even get another chance somewhere but he can probably retire now on the compensation he has picked up. |
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Post by surreychad on May 17, 2024 10:32:36 GMT
Then straight after Norwich sack the boss 🙄 thats unreal. |
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Post by robindubois on May 17, 2024 10:46:31 GMT
Then straight after Norwich sack the boss 🙄 thats unreal. yeah and I wonder when they told him - maybe even before the game or in the dressing room at half time and gave him a room key for a night in a Leeds hotel and a one way ticket to Norwich, or Birmingham, for Plymouth or Hull or.......... |
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Post by robindubois on May 19, 2024 8:54:39 GMT
Thoughts on the Play Off final?
Gut feel is that Leeds will freeze for at least 45 minutes and could be out of it by then.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 19, 2024 10:27:54 GMT
Sorry to see Leeds beat Norwich - I really do not like Leeds - especially their supporters.
But I do think Russell Martin is a 'one trick pony' and very lucky to be in charge of Southampton and their resources.
He has little idea of how to change things when things not working, but has a very talented squad that usually bails him out.
If Southampton go up, he will be found out badly wanting.
But unfortunately, I think it will be Leeds, especially if they get the first goal.
Quite pleased to see Oxford win yesterday rather than Bolton. Although we could do with out a repeat of our pre-season thumping.
They have their new stadium plans approved by Oxford Parkway and are on the way up, although they will need to invest heavily to survive next season as even Plymouth discovered.
Glad we are not in the third-tier next season. I think Wrexham, Stockport, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Rotherham and Peterborough will all be up there fighting.
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Post by robindubois on May 19, 2024 11:39:31 GMT
Sorry to see Leeds beat Norwich - I really do not like Leeds - especially their supporters. But I do think Russell Martin is a 'one trick pony' and very lucky to be in charge of Southampton and their resources. He has little idea of how to change things when things not working, but has a very talented squad that usually bails him out. If Southampton go up, he will be found out badly wanting. But unfortunately, I think it will be Leeds, especially if they get the first goal. Quite pleased to see Oxford win yesterday rather than Bolton. Although we could do with out a repeat of our pre-season thumping. They have their new stadium plans approved by Oxford Parkway and are on the way up, although they will need to invest heavily to survive next season as even Plymouth discovered. Glad we are not in the third-tier next season. I think Wrexham, Stockport, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Rotherham and Peterborough will all be up there fighting. See what you mean re Southampton - maybe they will pick up Brightons outgoing manager in the close season Bolton or Oxford. Sorry but I have a different view - purely personally based. Firstly Oxford. Been near the top of my hated list since when I was a teenager ( a long long time ago) on a supporters club coach heading home from a night game at Oxford which we unexpectedly lost amongst some nasty crowd trouble. Our coach was ambushed at a roundabout on the edge of town going home, bricks thrown through the windows that would have taken my head off if I had not seen it coming and ducked. Followed by a very slow and cold drive home in a coach with few windows. Then of course there was the Milk Cup which luckily I missed live as I was abroad. On the bright side I think Oxford will have to spend heavily or end up like Rotherham but they seem to have some money behind them. Then Bolton - not long ago we were fortunate not to be in the same financial position as them, they suffered greatly due to harsh EFL points deductions etc and I felt for their fans. So I would have liked to see them make it back up with Ian Evett as manager and they had a good season. Again I think they would have struggled if they had made it up but the fans would have deserved promotion for their loyalty. Looking ahead I think Portsmouth with their support have the best chance of staying up. Derby will probably be down in the dog fight to stay up depending how much cash they get to spend. The Championship will start to look like the PL with a handful of clubs (dominated by Burnley) looking at the PL. I expect Sheff Utd to struggle or even go straight down but Luton less so as they did the wise thing and did not spend a fortune trying to stay up and can build a decent Championship squad as a result. League 1 - just glad we are not in it. I think the Championship is the hardest league to be promoted from but League 1 is catching up with some big name clubs looking to move back up. DISCLAIMER : The above is all just a matter of opinion and may prove totally wrong but it is Sunday and not much to do before the PL final games. |
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Post by hitmanrangers on May 19, 2024 12:01:26 GMT
I am hoping Southampton go up as don't want to see Martin's crap football style of keep ball in and around defensive and middle third again next season! Saints fans must get so bored!
Also, away trip to Leeds would be good as missed it this season due to it being midweek.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 21, 2024 8:36:36 GMT
Sorry to see Leeds beat Norwich - I really do not like Leeds - especially their supporters. But I do think Russell Martin is a 'one trick pony' and very lucky to be in charge of Southampton and their resources. He has little idea of how to change things when things not working, but has a very talented squad that usually bails him out. If Southampton go up, he will be found out badly wanting. But unfortunately, I think it will be Leeds, especially if they get the first goal. Quite pleased to see Oxford win yesterday rather than Bolton. Although we could do with out a repeat of our pre-season thumping. They have their new stadium plans approved by Oxford Parkway and are on the way up, although they will need to invest heavily to survive next season as even Plymouth discovered. Glad we are not in the third-tier next season. I think Wrexham, Stockport, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Rotherham and Peterborough will all be up there fighting. See what you mean re Southampton - maybe they will pick up Brightons outgoing manager in the close season Bolton or Oxford. Sorry but I have a different view - purely personally based. Firstly Oxford. Been near the top of my hated list since when I was a teenager ( a long long time ago) on a supporters club coach heading home from a night game at Oxford which we unexpectedly lost amongst some nasty crowd trouble. Our coach was ambushed at a roundabout on the edge of town going home, bricks thrown through the windows that would have taken my head off if I had not seen it coming and ducked. Followed by a very slow and cold drive home in a coach with few windows. Then of course there was the Milk Cup which luckily I missed live as I was abroad. On the bright side I think Oxford will have to spend heavily or end up like Rotherham but they seem to have some money behind them. Then Bolton - not long ago we were fortunate not to be in the same financial position as them, they suffered greatly due to harsh EFL points deductions etc and I felt for their fans. So I would have liked to see them make it back up with Ian Evett as manager and they had a good season. Again I think they would have struggled if they had made it up but the fans would have deserved promotion for their loyalty. Looking ahead I think Portsmouth with their support have the best chance of staying up. Derby will probably be down in the dog fight to stay up depending how much cash they get to spend. The Championship will start to look like the PL with a handful of clubs (dominated by Burnley) looking at the PL. I expect Sheff Utd to struggle or even go straight down but Luton less so as they did the wise thing and did not spend a fortune trying to stay up and can build a decent Championship squad as a result. League 1 - just glad we are not in it. I think the Championship is the hardest league to be promoted from but League 1 is catching up with some big name clubs looking to move back up. DISCLAIMER : The above is all just a matter of opinion and may prove totally wrong but it is Sunday and not much to do before the PL final games. My family on my mum's side was based in Oxfordshire. So, I have a lot of relatives who were Oxford United long before they achieved league status. United always seem to have the uncanny ability to beat QPR over the years, the Milk Cup Final really was the absolute pits. We were in great form and they were in freefall....and yet... Then the five nil drubbing pre-season - we really do owe them one. I first went to the old Manor Ground, when they were non-league, although more times to their social club than to actual games. But they always had a really rough element to their crowd, that did not fit with most people's image of a university city. Then when they moved to their current soulless 3-sided stadium, they moved to one of the roughest areas of Oxford. At least their new ground will be in a better and hopefully safer area, and close to the station and airport. Despite our poor record against them, and that we will probably give them their only 6 pointer of their season, I was still pleased that they have gained promotion back to the Championship after a quarter of a century. |
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Post by robindubois on May 21, 2024 12:07:56 GMT
See what you mean re Southampton - maybe they will pick up Brightons outgoing manager in the close season Bolton or Oxford. Sorry but I have a different view - purely personally based. Firstly Oxford. Been near the top of my hated list since when I was a teenager ( a long long time ago) on a supporters club coach heading home from a night game at Oxford which we unexpectedly lost amongst some nasty crowd trouble. Our coach was ambushed at a roundabout on the edge of town going home, bricks thrown through the windows that would have taken my head off if I had not seen it coming and ducked. Followed by a very slow and cold drive home in a coach with few windows. Then of course there was the Milk Cup which luckily I missed live as I was abroad. On the bright side I think Oxford will have to spend heavily or end up like Rotherham but they seem to have some money behind them. Then Bolton - not long ago we were fortunate not to be in the same financial position as them, they suffered greatly due to harsh EFL points deductions etc and I felt for their fans. So I would have liked to see them make it back up with Ian Evett as manager and they had a good season. Again I think they would have struggled if they had made it up but the fans would have deserved promotion for their loyalty. Looking ahead I think Portsmouth with their support have the best chance of staying up. Derby will probably be down in the dog fight to stay up depending how much cash they get to spend. The Championship will start to look like the PL with a handful of clubs (dominated by Burnley) looking at the PL. I expect Sheff Utd to struggle or even go straight down but Luton less so as they did the wise thing and did not spend a fortune trying to stay up and can build a decent Championship squad as a result. League 1 - just glad we are not in it. I think the Championship is the hardest league to be promoted from but League 1 is catching up with some big name clubs looking to move back up. DISCLAIMER : The above is all just a matter of opinion and may prove totally wrong but it is Sunday and not much to do before the PL final games. My family on my mum's side was based in Oxfordshire. So, I have a lot of relatives who were Oxford United long before they achieved league status. United always seem to have the uncanny ability to beat QPR over the years, the Milk Cup Final really was the absolute pits. We were in great form and they were in freefall....and yet... Then the five nil drubbing pre-season - we really do owe them one. I first went to the old Manor Ground, when they were non-league, although more times to their social club than to actual games. But they always had a really rough element to their crowd, that did not fit with most people's image of a university city. Then when they moved to their current soulless 3-sided stadium, they moved to one of the roughest areas of Oxford. At least their new ground will be in a better and hopefully safer area, and close to the station and airport. Despite our poor record against them, and that we will probably give them their only 6 pointer of their season, I was still pleased that they have gained promotion back to the Championship after a quarter of a century. Interesting - all my family on my Mum's side came from Leeds (wash my mouth out) but converted to R's when my grandparents and children moved to the Bush. Safe now as I am the end of that family line and no hope of me switching back to Leeds  I liked the old Manor Ground real community feel about it - apart from a lot of the regulars inside it. |
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Post by robindubois on May 26, 2024 8:38:59 GMT
Any predictions for today.?
I am going for Armstrong to have a late Zamora moment to get Southampton over the line with a comeback 2-1 win .
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Post by rickyqpr on May 26, 2024 8:46:04 GMT
Any predictions for today.? I am going for Armstrong to have a late Zamora moment to get Southampton over the line with a comeback 2-1 win . I am conflicted. Dislike Leeds, dislike the Leed's fans entitlement even more. Think Russell Martin is a poor manager and will be found out. Anything can happen in a one-off game as United proved yesterday, but for me, Leeds have had their blip and will see it through now. First goal important though. |
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Post by hitmanrangers on May 26, 2024 9:11:54 GMT
I'm going for 3-3, Saints to win on penalties
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Post by Marc on May 26, 2024 11:34:26 GMT
On Friday evening, Saints stuffed Leeds 40-10. An omen?
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Post by rickyqpr on May 26, 2024 18:09:17 GMT
Pleased that Southampton made it, although they could have shown greater ambition.
Russell Martin's brand of football paid off with eleven men behind the ball.
Leeds messed it up once again.
The team that had two ex-QPR keepers (McCarthy & Lumley) in the matchday squad go up to the Prem!
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Post by robindubois on May 27, 2024 8:11:55 GMT
Pleased that Southampton did it (anyone except Leeds really)
Noticed the 2 keepers - rumours that McCarthy will be free in the summer - room for thought but unlikely on wages.
To balance the good news, it means we have to put up with Leeds for 2 games next season - sods law says the opening fixture for the season will be Leeds V's QPR brought forward one day for a Sky 8-00pm kick off, followed by QPR v's Millwall. May as well get them out of the way early. I was hoping that Leeds may be off the pace next year but they have made enough money, still have parachute payments and a decent young squad, but as their end of season showed anything can happen in this league. Really pleased with our 4-0 win which must have dented their confidence for the run in.
The teams coming down should be strong but Sheff. Utd may be on a slide to League 1. Far to early to guess but for us promotion is in the miracle class, play-offs a brilliant season, top 8 a very good season and top 10 a good season. Anything below half way will be disappointing. However a few good signings may make the foregoing pessimistic.
Of the teams promoted to PL I think Southampton have a chance to survive defending on how badly a couple of others do. Ipswich will struggle - the leap from League One to PL in 2 seasons is one bridge to far imo. Leicester have the best chance but if they get hit with points deductions, as many expect, they will have a struggle.
Next the dreaded transfer window. Silence on our remaining out of contract players is intriguing - maybe Nourry is playing hardball and agents holding out for other clubs to come in. Time will tell but I really would like to see the squad fixed before he season starts.
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Post by rickyqpr on May 27, 2024 8:28:51 GMT
Pleased that Southampton did it (anyone except Leeds really) Noticed the 2 keepers - rumours that McCarthy will be free in the summer - room for thought but unlikely on wages. To balance the good news, it means we have to put up with Leeds for 2 games next season - sods law says the opening fixture for the season will be Leeds V's QPR brought forward one day for a Sky 8-00pm kick off, followed by QPR v's Millwall. May as well get them out of the way early. I was hoping that Leeds may be off the pace next year but they have made enough money, still have parachute payments and a decent young squad, but as their end of season showed anything can happen in this league. Really pleased with our 4-0 win which must have dented their confidence for the run in. The teams coming down should be strong but Sheff. Utd may be on a slide to League 1. Far to early to guess but for us promotion is in the miracle class, play-offs a brilliant season, top 8 a very good season and top 10 a good season. Anything below half way will be disappointing. However a few good signings may make the foregoing pessimistic. Of the teams promoted to PL I think Southampton have a chance to survive defending on how badly a couple of others do. Ipswich will struggle - the leap from League One to PL in 2 seasons is one bridge to far imo. Leicester have the best chance but if they get hit with points deductions, as many expect, they will have a struggle. Next the dreaded transfer window. Silence on our remaining out of contract players is intriguing - maybe Nourry is playing hardball and agents holding out for other clubs to come in. Time will tell but I really would like to see the squad fixed before he season starts. Leeds - apparently, they owe £180m on transfer dealings, that they need to find. They very badly needed promotion. I think they will have to sell and build again - probably with a new manager - cos that is what happens. Sheffield United start with a points deduction - dished out in a timely manner because they do not have Manchester City's lawyers. Burnley are probably the yo-yo club now, and Luton are well managed, unfortunately. Agree that Ipswich with McKenna will be a struggle, without him will be more than unfortunate. Leicester as you say likely to get a points deduction. Relegation likely to be decided by whoever has broken FFP this year - what ever happened to sport? Portsmouth and Derby will make a go of it, but Oxford will surely struggle. Rohl has extended his contract at Sheffield Wednesday, and that is a shame. But he has a major rebuilding job there anyway. And then there is of course Plymouth. As for the window, all leaks at the club have been plugged and we are only linked through clickbait. But the window opens on the 14th June, most contract offers expire 31st May, so all should be clear very soon. The fact that the bulk of clickbait is linking us to Willock replacements though would suggest that he will not resign for QPR. |
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Post by harr on May 27, 2024 8:43:35 GMT
Congrats Southampton.
Don’t really like Leeds at all but to get 90 points and not finish in the top two is new territory and unheard of so very tough on supporters.
Can remember about season 2007 or 08 in Championship when Stoke finished behind WBA on a shockingly low 79 and went up in second auto spot
Funny old game
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Post by Marc on May 27, 2024 9:54:21 GMT
Saints Women 12-6 Leeds
Saints 40-10 Leeds
Saints 1-0 Leeds
Great weekend!
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 30, 2024 6:24:31 GMT
Did Leeds have 300,000 attending the game?? There's a guy on Facelessbook on a football site and everytime a decent attendance is announced, he always pops up and says words to the effect, Leeds would have taken more.
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I liked the old Manor Ground real community feel about it - apart from a lot of the regulars inside it.