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Post by Macmoish on Jan 12, 2024 15:34:49 GMT
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 12, 2024 15:52:56 GMT
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 12, 2024 17:10:51 GMT
Long overdue change.
He has been around the club for the last 9 months doing a deep clean.
No expenditure in the transfer window (I guess unless we sell).
I am pleased we are making changes, but our new CEO made me feel very, very old.
Some say he is 26: most posters on this board are old enough to be his dad, and some old enough to be his granddad!
Good luck Christian, you and we are going to need it!
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 13, 2024 14:27:36 GMT
I think it's a very very very strange appointment. No experience in being a CEO or running a football club
It sounds more like getting us ready for a sale than running the club
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Post by rangersman on Jan 14, 2024 15:31:26 GMT
The farce is gathering momentum, oh the deep joy to come.
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Post by surreychad on Jan 14, 2024 17:46:34 GMT
willing to give him a go. From what I have read and can see this isn't some mug of the streets, he clearly has a very good reputation amongst clubs across Europe. Our owners, (No matter what you think of them) are not you average Joe, all of them are very successful in their fields so they will know what to look for in a senior role.
Lets see what happens, fear the worst and hope for the best.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 15, 2024 15:29:14 GMT
Disagree! But ultimately nothing can do. Don't see him in the slightest fit for the role of QPR CEO. So presume there's more to it.
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Post by surreychad on Jan 16, 2024 8:17:29 GMT
Disagree! But ultimately nothing can do. Don't see him in the slightest fit for the role of QPR CEO. So presume there's more to it. We have all have opinions mate. Would be interested to see why you dont see him fit for the role? |
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Post by robindubois on Jan 16, 2024 9:11:52 GMT
Beard was useless according to some, Hoos was useless according to some while others gave him credit for the management experience that kept the owners in line and put the club financially on the right track without FFP penalties. Now the new man is too young, not fit for the job etc and he was only named a couple of days ago. Why is he not fit, what is the job description what is his experience, how do they not fit.
I give up - back to hibernation mode while others continue to run down everything the club tries to do. Surprised no one has called for Warnock or Holloway to be the CEO
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 16, 2024 9:49:56 GMT
Beard was useless according to some, Hoos was useless according to some while others gave him credit for the management experience that kept the owners in line and put the club financially on the right track without FFP penalties. Now the new man is too young, not fit for the job etc and he was only named a couple of days ago. Why is he not fit, what is the job description what is his experience, how do they not fit. I give up - back to hibernation mode while others continue to run down everything the club tries to do. Surprised no one has called for Warnock or Holloway to be the CEO Yes, you have to give the guy a chance. His CV for a 26 year old is impressive, and he clearly has immersed himself in all things QPR. As ever, it is how you wish to view these things. You could say that his reading of the fanbase was astute, saying all the right things, or you could just say that he reads the message boards. I think it is an unusual appointment, I wonder what the reaction would have been if we had appointed a woman into the role. My biggest concern would be how he will cope / deal with other CEOs, or players agents, contracts /signings. It is not about him, it is how he is perceived by others in the game. But having said that, Hoos could be quite abrasive, and no doubt rubbed several up the wrong way. As for his predecessors, Beard struggled throughout his tenure, there was not much substance there. Hoos did a decent job for most of the time (Clive's evaluation in the Watford preview pretty close to my view) but I think that he had wanted out for some time and took on more roles, performing them all less and less effectively - not surprisingly. Remaining as Chairman will hopefully smooth the transition that we now face. Not sure Robin why you are annoyed by the difference of opinion though. That is what the message board is all about hopefully. |
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Post by robindubois on Jan 16, 2024 10:10:18 GMT
Beard was useless according to some, Hoos was useless according to some while others gave him credit for the management experience that kept the owners in line and put the club financially on the right track without FFP penalties. Now the new man is too young, not fit for the job etc and he was only named a couple of days ago. Why is he not fit, what is the job description what is his experience, how do they not fit. I give up - back to hibernation mode while others continue to run down everything the club tries to do. Surprised no one has called for Warnock or Holloway to be the CEO Not sure Robin why you are annoyed by the difference of opinion though. That is what the message board is all about hopefully. Not annoyed by the difference of opinion Ricky - just fed up with the instant negativity from the same people about everything the club does. Give the guy a chance and even then who really knows what or how well he will be doing for some time. |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 16, 2024 13:36:21 GMT
First if it had been a woman (who had CEO experience/experience with football); would have had absolutely zero problem. I'm not from the Joey Barton school.
re "Negativity." This is a messageboard. Views that are not personally-abusive are welcome
As for my "Negativity."
His age is relevant - linked to his experience. (That he's 26 and said he's been involved with football for 11 years does raise questions. The exact quote " "So I've been in football for 11 years and for the last six years I have been working for ownership groups of football clubs, football clubs and leagues..."
His job at Retexo has been a "Consultant" - It's not a mid-size organization at which he's been CEO. I presume these are skill sets one has to aquire.
And I presume - with no evidence - part of to sell the club. And I wonder to what degree his ties to Retexo have been fully cut. And to what degree he's just on assignment.
The time to question actually now. It's not when we're in the dire (More than we are now)
After the initial enthusiasms of fans to the Chris Wright, Paladini, Briatore/Ecclestone, Fernandes et al times #LessonsLearned
"So I've been in football for 11 years and for
the last six years I have been working for ownership
groups of football clubs, football clubs and leagues"
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Post by rangersman on Jan 16, 2024 15:30:39 GMT
I think he will be a genius in the role, as he has stated we cannot afford to buy anyone and it looks like being an uphill struggle to stay in this league. So in a nutshell he has said what 4 other managers neglected to say during their reign at this club, the Messiah has landed.
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Post by nomar on Jan 16, 2024 18:50:57 GMT
He sounds grounded in reality and from the same school of thought that bought Cifuentes to us. Which is no bad thing.
At this rate he’ll be building us up in League One.
In some ways I’m looking forward to the new challenge. Be great to see QPR at the memorial ground, tenner a ticket. Take the family!
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Post by blatantfowl on Feb 2, 2024 5:42:40 GMT
I’d like to think that one of the things Nourry has done already is state we had no money so that it stopped QPR being the “soft touch” club that always seemed to get shafted on both incoming and outgoing deals as everyone always knew we were desperate.
Also had the effect of dampening fans ever more wild expectations so. When signings were made it’s a motivating surprise for all of us.
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Post by surreychad on Feb 2, 2024 13:23:22 GMT
i like that the CEO and Manager both talked about the QPR way and style of play. Just feels like some exciting times ahead.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 3, 2024 10:25:23 GMT
Obviously I could be completely wrong; but I just don't believe that the Christian Nourry is some "wizzkid" appointment doing what Lee Hoos couldnt/wouldnt.
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Post by rickyqpr on Feb 3, 2024 11:36:06 GMT
Obviously I could be completely wrong; but I just don't believe that the Christian Nourry is some "wizzkid" appointment doing what Lee Hoos couldnt/wouldnt. Part of this is the low expectations of one so young! But what he did achieve is to pull quite a few deals out of the bag, and it is also rumoured that he had deals lined up behind Kakay, Richards and Willock departures (Clive on LFW). Willock's dad blocked the £500k move to Hull, Kakay did not want to move out of London, even for a loan. Richards....I wonder who contemplated taking on a non-playing expense. But it shows that the board and the manager had worked through what was wrong and formulated a plan. The 3 (or possibly 4) signings are all very risky, but we had to do something. The real test now is remaining within FFP limitations. It is also worth remembering that Hoos is still earning a wage as Chairman, so was probably actively involved, even as part of the handover. Not a wizzkid, but not a puppet either it seems....for now! |
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Post by robindubois on Feb 4, 2024 10:32:14 GMT
What does Nourry have to do to prove the armchair experts wrong, and how will we even know about it as most work of the CEO is behind the scenes especially since WLS have been cut out of the "ITK' category.?
The only way is to give the man a chance, (it seems some are not prepared to do that) - and to judge on results and that does not just mean results on the pitch.
We have just completed what I think is a successful transfer window bringing in the mix of players that we need and identifying the weak links that need weeding out. All done in silence with no leaks other than those coming from agents trying to push up the money.
If Ricky's comments (fromLFW) are true Willock (or his dad) may have shot himself in the foot. Now he either has to turn it on as he can for us, if he can even get in the team with our new signings, or face being a bench warmer trying to attract a better offer than Hull or showing that he is committed to us longer term.
Kakay has no brain. Not even in the squad and he wants to dictate where he will be transfered or loaned. Maybe he thinks Chelsea or Fulham or Brentford want him. More likely league 2 or below if he wants to stay local.
Richards is a mystery still to the fans although the only gossip I have picked up is that his problems are mental rather than physical so maybe another change of scenery would help him. If he has metal issues I will not criticise or run him down. But I will question how Hoos and Ferdinand were conned into signing him for that fee. Would Norry and Marti have sanctioned that deal
So while it is early days we are seeing a new, post Amit/Hoos/Ainsworth approach on and off the pitch.
Being a glass half full man I still think we will stay up but if not I will lay the blame squarely at the feet of Amit for keeping Ainsworth in charge for a third of the season leaving Marti a massive job to keep us up.
How much Nourry was responsible for or involved in the transfers is unknown but he has been around the club for a while without the title so I am sure he played his part. Being a 26 year old does not make him a "whizz kid" - but he may be very good at what he does and will prove it over time. Times change and the game has changed so maybe it is time we got our head out of the sand and go along with new ideas, new approaches and younger management who understand the new world.
Final word - a challenge - name me the last truly successful CEO that we have had - and justify why.
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Post by rickyqpr on Feb 4, 2024 12:07:07 GMT
Richards is a mystery still to the fans although the only gossip I have picked up is that his problems are mental rather than physical so maybe another change of scenery would help him. If he has metal issues I will not criticise or run him down. But I will question how Hoos and Ferdinand were conned into signing him for that fee. Would Norry and Marti have sanctioned that deal Hindsight is a great thing. I guess he looked a bargain, but Hoos was desperate to push the expenditure into the next fiscal year, and Brighton obliged. i recall that Beale said he could not believe how little we were paying and how it was deferred anyway. Gift horse and mouth comes to mind. I know nothing other than what I read from others who possibly know even less. But how he spends his recreational time and who with, seems to be at the forefront. Richards was delighted to get back to his roots and to his boyhood club. Perhaps we should continue to join up the dots until the backstory emerges - as it no doubt will eventually. A lot has been written about why we have not terminated his contract. Perhaps we cannot afford to until the new fiscal year. If it was a choice between paying off Richards (he would not have departed for nothing) or signing Hodge or Hayden, what would we have preferred? As for a good CEO - Hoos did a great job rescuing us from the brink. But you have to divide his tenure in two. Having rescued us, he allowed us to drop back into a straight jacket, getting testy with fans and even stubborn. But he was a step up on Beard! But how many QPR CEO's can actually be remembered? |
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Post by robindubois on Feb 4, 2024 12:25:25 GMT
Richards is a mystery still to the fans although the only gossip I have picked up is that his problems are mental rather than physical so maybe another change of scenery would help him. If he has metal issues I will not criticise or run him down. But I will question how Hoos and Ferdinand were conned into signing him for that fee. Would Norry and Marti have sanctioned that deal Hindsight is a great thing. I guess he looked a bargain, but Hoos was desperate to push the expenditure into the next fiscal year, and Brighton obliged. i recall that Beale said he could not believe how little we were paying and how it was deferred anyway. Gift horse and mouth comes to mind. I know nothing other than what I read from others who possibly know even less. But how he spends his recreational time and who with, seems to be at the forefront. Richards was delighted to get back to his roots and to his boyhood club. Perhaps we should continue to join up the dots until the backstory emerges - as it no doubt will eventually. A lot has been written about why we have not terminated his contract. Perhaps we cannot afford to until the new fiscal year. If it was a choice between paying off Richards (he would not have departed for nothing) or signing Hodge or Hayden, what would we have preferred? As for a good CEO - Hoos did a great job rescuing us from the brink. But you have to divide his tenure in two. Having rescued us, he allowed us to drop back into a straight jacket, getting testy with fans and even stubborn. But he was a step up on Beard! But how many QPR CEO's can actually be remembered? Agree re Hoos but I wonder how much of the drop back into a straight jacket was his decision and how much taken out of his hands by someone now departed above him. I can understand him getting testy with fans after some of the abuse that turned his way but a really good CEO should be able to take that in his stride and deal with it. That is the only area where I could question appointing a young CEO - how will he react if and when the going gets tough and the abuse starts flying. Experience should help but my feelings is that he has the youthful confidence and will just ignore it and get on with things - until money or ambition lures him to a bigger club. As for previous CEO's I cannot name many but I think the role has evolved into something bigger and more important than it used to be taking on duties that once belonged to "Managers" who are now purely coaches and more involved in managing the club for the Chairman/Shareholders rather than more administrative roles. |
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Post by rickyqpr on Feb 4, 2024 13:17:02 GMT
But how many QPR CEO's can actually be remembered? As for previous CEO's I cannot name many but I think the role has evolved into something bigger and more important than it used to be taking on duties that once belonged to "Managers" who are now purely coaches and more involved in managing the club for the Chairman/Shareholders rather than more administrative roles. Mark Devlin did an ok job in much trickier times. Went on to be CEO at Brentford, Huddersfield and now Orient. |
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