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Post by Macmoish on Jan 6, 2024 14:05:17 GMT
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 14:07:56 GMT
Not quite the reserves some were expecting.
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
I was about to say “please pass it this time” but I gladly take it back! 1-0
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 15:42:45 GMT
1-0 to the Rs (Armstrong)
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 15:44:00 GMT
And like that!!! 2-0 on a deflection! I’ll take it!
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Post by nomar on Jan 6, 2024 15:46:59 GMT
Wait, what???!!!
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 15:47:53 GMT
Dykes took a good shot which was made unstoppable By a deflection off the defender.
Honestly should be 2-1 as Bournemouth had a point blank howler in the dying minutes. I still don’t think the ball has come back down.
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Post by nomar on Jan 6, 2024 16:00:56 GMT
And like that!!! 2-0 on a deflection! I’ll take it! Re the first goal, what a run and finish by Armstrong! It was apparent early doors that he had Senesi on toast, he simply couldn't handle Armstrong's pace and strength.
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 16:05:36 GMT
And like that!!! 2-0 on a deflection! I’ll take it! Re the first goal, what a run and finish by Armstrong! It was apparent early doors that he had Senesi on toast, he simply couldn't handle Armstrong's pace and strength. Yeah, he has made a number of good runs this game, but most of his attempts have been lacking. Maybe that goal inspires him. Let’s hope!
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 16:10:52 GMT
2-1 now. And so it begins.
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 16:11:26 GMT
Deflections giveth and taketh away….. 2-1
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 16:19:43 GMT
And there it is!
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Post by dan on Jan 6, 2024 16:20:18 GMT
Well….. It’s been an all out assault for 10 minutes. Set pieces strike again
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 16:31:18 GMT
Sigh
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Post by rangersman on Jan 6, 2024 16:34:22 GMT
Lol..............we are the joke of the Championship............nothing new is it.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 6, 2024 17:02:37 GMT
So we lose 2-3. We don't do Cups
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Post by nomar on Jan 6, 2024 19:51:06 GMT
So we lose 2-3. We don't do Cups But that first half should have given Marti great encouragement. That was as good as we’ve played for at least a year. Armstrong genuinely made an international premier league defender look silly. Hopefully that gives him confidence going forwards.
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Post by Marc on Jan 6, 2024 20:50:30 GMT
Lol..............we are the joke of the Championship............nothing new is it. we lost by a single goal to a Premier League team who've won 4 out of their last 5 games. How does that make us a joke?
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Post by robindubois on Jan 6, 2024 22:38:34 GMT
Lol..............we are the joke of the Championship............nothing new is it. I thought this was an FA Cup game - nothing to do with the Championship. The only real question is are you a natural W*nker or are you still practising? I suspect the answer is both.
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Post by joeregan on Jan 6, 2024 22:56:46 GMT
2-0 first half over keep it tight no silly mistakes first 3 minutes in 2-1 just like that were under pressure 10 mins of pressure from bourmouth and it’s 2-2 due to some crap defending from Sam field completely lost his man. You think we bring on the likes of paal, salter or Reggie cannon but marti had other ideas and brings on ozzy Kakay and Albert who’s 37 after them changes we were finished jimmy dunne is at fault for the 3rd goal like most weeks. We try play it out from the back with players that can’t do it because you’ve got players like dunne and Kakay who are like dumb and dumber. Don’t get me wrong 3-2 loss against a premier league side on paper isn’t dreadful but how we lost is dreadful. First half was okay Armstrong showed why he should be our 9 over dykes he brings so much more to his game. 2 good balls for the goal shows that Armstrongs pace causes defences trouble. I think we have an awful striker who he’s competing with to get in the team with dykes who I think is arguably the worst striker in the league and he still plays over Armstrong or kolli when he’s fit. Last 13 goals we’ve conceded 9 have been from set plays it’s not good enough this has been a problem for years but anyway I’d rather stay up than go on a cup run. Onto Watford. You rs
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Post by rickyqpr on Jan 7, 2024 10:00:54 GMT
2-0 first half over keep it tight no silly mistakes first 3 minutes in 2-1 just like that were under pressure 10 mins of pressure from bourmouth and it’s 2-2 due to some crap defending from Sam field completely lost his man. You think we bring on the likes of paal, salter or Reggie cannon but marti had other ideas and brings on ozzy Kakay and Albert who’s 37 after them changes we were finished jimmy dunne is at fault for the 3rd goal like most weeks. We try play it out from the back with players that can’t do it because you’ve got players like dunne and Kakay who are like dumb and dumber. Don’t get me wrong 3-2 loss against a premier league side on paper isn’t dreadful but how we lost is dreadful. First half was okay Armstrong showed why he should be our 9 over dykes he brings so much more to his game. 2 good balls for the goal shows that Armstrongs pace causes defences trouble. I think we have an awful striker who he’s competing with to get in the team with dykes who I think is arguably the worst striker in the league and he still plays over Armstrong or kolli when he’s fit. Last 13 goals we’ve conceded 9 have been from set plays it’s not good enough this has been a problem for years but anyway I’d rather stay up than go on a cup run. Onto Watford. You rs I could not make it to this one, so thanks for the report. I saw the highlights, and hard to disagree with the above. This conceding from set pieces though is pretty basic. We put a small man on the near post.... We do not track runners because we are zonal.... Our keeper flaps at set pieces, and is slow to get down.... but is a decent shot stopper. In short, as every one says, we cannot afford to be so generous on set pieces. Watford will be busy practicing set pieces all week. We cannot take a set piece, so our set piece defending training is at an immediate disadvantage. We do not have a player in the team who can take set pieces - finding someone somehow to marshal the midfield is a priority. Dykes is never going to get the goals we need. Begovic is becoming a liability. Only our first 11 are anywhere near good enough, there is no depth. Marti was trying not to risk too many key players, but I wonder what our starting 11 will be next Sunday. We could be joint bottom when we kick off.
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 7, 2024 10:12:40 GMT
For me the only positives from the game were our strikers (if you can call them that!) scoring which should hopefully provide some confidence, at least for Armstrong.
Armstrong cannot play as a sole number 9 but put him upfront on the wing, with another striker, is how we get the best out of him.
10 wins from 20 gets us safe - can this team achieve that?
Will there be any transfer ins? Huddersfield have already picked up a couple of new players.
Our finances might be even worse than we all feared as deals needed to be done early in this window but nothing to report as of yet.
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Post by blatantfowl on Jan 7, 2024 18:12:07 GMT
I’m not so positive about the first half nor about Sinclair Armstrong. We cleared the ball off the line in the 2nd minute and there on we matched a lazy Bournemouth team that played as if they only needed to turn up and they’d win. First goal was well taken but more a result of a complacent centre back. It’s easy to force a runner out in that position. If we think Armstrong would score goals like that with any regularity then forget it. Competent defences have no problem with these runs week in week out. Dykes goal took a freak deflection which is some welcome luck from hard work but hardly a basis for a hopeful outlook.
I’m more bothered that Marti in his interview explained he gave clear instructions how to come out after the break and not sit back yet we did exactly that and Armstrong cancelled his goal by forgetting his instructions and not marking his player literally 3 mins after coming out.
A couple of Bournemouth subs of true quality revealed the true situation. It’s not the case we matched a premiership team at all. We matched a weakened and complacent Bournemouth who totally destroyed us by going up a gear without ever having to reach top gear.
I’m more sympathetic to Begovic. Without his shot stopping we’d have been stuffed anyhow and there are others in the defence I’d single out before him. Kakay is just woeful and we expect too much from the limited Dunne. I think Dunne has never recovered from his nightmare partnership with Rob Dickie last season.
But while I have sympathy for a clearly frustrated Marti C he does not get off scot-free. For the second week I’ve seen him sub off Smyth for Adomah which is bizarre and persevering with dreadful liabilities like Kakay. I can handle that in a cup game which will ultimately mean nothing but in the league we need to gamble that injuries will be kind and play our strongest team every time to have a chance of staying up.
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Post by kerrins on Jan 8, 2024 11:58:35 GMT
Some very good comment there Blatant Fowl.
Once Bournemouth sent on those "first teamer" subs at the start of the second half it was game over. Knew it and said so during the interval when we led 2-0.
Lets face it if the visitors had treated this encounter and original team selection like a Premier League fixture the chances are we would have been blown away. Another example of a Prem side treating an early round of the FA Cup with little respect.
Anyway overall not a disaster of a performance. Hope springs eternal
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Post by kenthoop on Jan 11, 2024 10:36:43 GMT
I must admit at having a laugh of the report by one of the rags about our game with Bournemouth who said and I quite after losing two nil at the break a scintillating second half display resulting in three second half goals eased the cherries past Queen's Park Rangers into the next round , scintillating display my arse !!! I don't think Bournemouth will score three easier goals all season , all due to our inability to defend at set pieces ,nine goals from set pieces is an issue that has to be addressed quickly otherwise I fear it could be Div 1 next season
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Post by harr on Jan 11, 2024 11:23:26 GMT
I think we miss Cook and don’t forget Cook and Fox only played about 5-6 games together all season. If we can play these two regularly now and not Dunne I think our defence could improve.
We need Cook, Colback, Chair, Willock and Kohli back asap, if we can get these back and get one addition upfront we might sneak 7 wins And a few draws 21 points plus another 7 wins makes it 42, maybe 4 draws. We could sneak to 46 - 47 points might just be enough for 21st place but we need the others to keep losing. I worry we might finish above Rotherham and Huddersfield but Sheffield Weds do so well we can’t catch them.
Plymouth have won like 8 games at home so home form keeps them up. Who else might end up in the mix ? I’m not convinced Birmingham, Millwall or Stoke are as bad as us.
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Post by hitmanrangers on Jan 11, 2024 16:25:29 GMT
That’s pretty much how I see it . Teams like Millwall, who we had reeled in at the time we played them, are only 3-4 wins away from a points total we probably can’t surpass now.
We essentially need nearly 1.5 points/game which over a full season gets you challenging for the playoffs. That’s the form this team needs to start turning in and fast.
January is huge. 3 wins from 3 required if we want a fighting chance of staying up otherwise we are relying upon a miracle.
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Post by harr on Jan 11, 2024 17:03:44 GMT
2 wins from our next three home games bare minimum. That will give us some impetus into February and there are winnable games in Feb if the right team turns up.
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