Norwich Thread - This is it. HAVE HAVE HAVE to WIn

[Macmoish]

Don't see how we have a chance of staying up if we lose this

(And don't expect us to win)

So good luck QPR

[Macmoish]

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[stylecouncillor]

Couldn't agree more this is probably as easy as a game we are going to get !! Home mid table team inconsistent ... so probably another home defeat.... only hopeful stat they're not in the bottom 3

[blatantfowl]

Holy crapdykes scored

[harr]

1-0 at half time but not sure how we hung on.
Need to do better second half .

Watford have fell to pieces 1 up and already given Cardiff the points.

[Marc]

Normal service resumed on 46'

1-1

[harr]

1 minute into second half great, now wait for the next two

[harr]

Reading score as it stands in the bottom 3 , my god QPR how have you done this

[harr]

Down to 10 men, Reading

[Marc]

Reading have just had a player sent off. We can but hope.

[nomar]

Going down.

And thoroughly deserved too.

[harr]

Luton yes you beauty

[blatantfowl]

Full time, we’re out of the relegation zone . Be thankful for small mercies

[Marc]

FT 1-1

Would we have taken that before the game?

[Marc]

Apr 19, 2023 20:44:41 GMT blatantfowl said:

Full time, we’re out of the relegation zone . Be thankful for small mercies

For now anyway. Still time in the Reading game.

[nomar]

Apr 19, 2023 20:45:49 GMT Marc said:

FT 1-1

Would we have taken that before the game?

Cardiff result meant we needed a win.

QPR don't do things by halves, so we will go into the bottom 3 on the final day and get relegated.

[rickyqpr]

Have not seen a replay, but I thought that we should have had a penalty when Lowe was fouled in the box.

[harr]

Needed a win really.

We might match the Reading result this weekend, ie both lose, BURNLEY V QPR and COVENTRY V READING
But the following week we are away at Stoke and Reading home v Wigan

Also Hudds don’t play this weekend
They play 30th April away at Cardiff before Thurs 4th May Sheff Utd then Home Reading last day


But basically we are deep in the sh1t as we needed to beat Coventry or Norwich , the odd point is not enough.
If Reading do lose at Coventry , we will need a win against Stoke or Bristol and hope Reading lose one of the two games against Wigan or Huddersfield.
Looks like it will go to game 46.

I always thought 47-48 points was the magic numbers this year and we might not get there yet.

[nomar]

Apr 19, 2023 20:56:53 GMT rickyqpr said:

Have not seen a replay, but I thought that we should have had a penalty when Lowe was fouled in the box.

Let’s be honest, if we’d have got one we’d only go and miss it.

[nomar]

Apr 19, 2023 21:15:50 GMT harr said:

Needed a win really.

We might match the Reading result this weekend, ie both lose, BURNLEY V QPR and COVENTRY V READING
But the following week we are away at Stoke and Reading home v Wigan

Also Hudds don’t play this weekend
They play 30th April away at Cardiff before Thurs 4th May Sheff Utd then Home Reading last day


But basically we are deep in the sh1t as we needed to beat Coventry or Norwich , the odd point is not enough.
If Reading do lose at Coventry , we will need a win against Stoke or Bristol and hope Reading lose one of the two games against Wigan or Huddersfield.
Looks like it will go to game 46.

I always thought 47-48 points was the magic numbers this year and we might not get there yet.

We’re gone. It’s just prolonging the agony.

Unless this team finds a win in the next 3 games they are relegated. Plain and simple.

And right now it’s impossible to see this football club, as currently constructed, ever winning another football match ever again.

[hitmanrangers]

Can someone explain the substitution rules? We made 4 changes across 4 separate times which I don’t think is allowed - only 3 stoppages, excluding half time - none of our subs were at half time. Don’t think there was a concussion sub either?
Norwich made 6 substitutes across 5 stoppages excluding the half time change they made. One was concussion but that still meant 4 stoppages for the changes which is not allowed?
Perhaps one team screwed up first and the 4th official just let the other team match it to avoid any rule breaking?
Very odd, any ideas on this??

[rickyqpr]

Apr 19, 2023 23:01:07 GMT hitmanrangers said:

Can someone explain the substitution rules? We made 4 changes across 4 separate times which I don’t think is allowed - only 3 stoppages, excluding half time - none of our subs were at half time. Don’t think there was a concussion sub either?
Norwich made 6 substitutes across 5 stoppages excluding the half time change they made. One was concussion but that still meant 4 stoppages for the changes which is not allowed?
Perhaps one team screwed up first and the 4th official just let the other team match it to avoid any rule breaking?
Very odd, any ideas on this??

If one of the Norwich subs was for concussion, then we get an extra sub to match them.
However, what is going on with Willock that he remained on the bench?
As I said elsewhere, unplayable to unplayed.

[harr]

Because of our Poor goal difference we may need two wins or more probable a win and a draw.

A win and a draw from our last 3 matches means Reading need to win 2 matches to send us down

COVENTRY AWAY , they hopefully will lose.
Could Reading beat Wigan at home and Huddersfield away.?

The ideal scenario is Reading lose there next two and Huddersfield lose there next two , then buy the time they play each other as long as we pick up
One point we could be safe

[hitmanrangers]

Apr 20, 2023 6:32:19 GMT rickyqpr said:

Apr 19, 2023 23:01:07 GMT hitmanrangers said:

Can someone explain the substitution rules? We made 4 changes across 4 separate times which I don’t think is allowed - only 3 stoppages, excluding half time - none of our subs were at half time. Don’t think there was a concussion sub either?
Norwich made 6 substitutes across 5 stoppages excluding the half time change they made. One was concussion but that still meant 4 stoppages for the changes which is not allowed?
Perhaps one team screwed up first and the 4th official just let the other team match it to avoid any rule breaking?
Very odd, any ideas on this??

If one of the Norwich subs was for concussion, then we get an extra sub to match them.
However, what is going on with Willock that he remained on the bench?
As I said elsewhere, unplayable to unplayed.

Thanks for clearing that up!

[hitmanrangers]

Apr 20, 2023 6:38:07 GMT harr said:

Because of our Poor goal difference we may need two wins or more probable a win and a draw.

A win and a draw from our last 3 matches means Reading need to win 2 matches to send us down

COVENTRY AWAY , they hopefully will lose.
Could Reading beat Wigan at home and Huddersfield away.?

The ideal scenario is Reading lose there next two and Huddersfield lose there next two , then buy the time they play each other as long as we pick up
One point we could be safe

Agree the table for last game needs to look no worse than it does currently then a draw at home v Bristol City will be enough

[spanishal]

First half looked like a team on a mission and scored a fine goal. Conceding within a minute of the second half and it was back to headless chicken mode, hoofball, sloppiness and only 2 shots on goal. Although the players were trying, IMHO, they were completely unorganized whilst Norwich were the opposite. GA seems to think it’s a good point, suspicions about his suitability are sadly rising to the surface. Only Luton kept us out of the bottom 3 last night but not for much longer I fear.

[rickyqpr]

Apr 20, 2023 8:15:27 GMT spanishal said:

First half looked like a team on a mission and scored a fine goal. Conceding within a minute of the second half and it was back to headless chicken mode, hoofball, sloppiness and only 2 shots on goal. Although the players were trying, IMHO, they were completely unorganized whilst Norwich were the opposite. GA seems to think it’s a good point, suspicions about his suitability are sadly rising to the surface. Only Luton kept us out of the bottom 3 last night but not for much longer I fear.

I get that we are 'fragile' but how were we so exposed from the restart like that? Do they not listen, or are they just dozy?
Everyone at the ground, watching at home, in the dressing room all thought that Norwich would come out fast and fired up, so keep it tight.
One ball over and madness. 90 seconds.....

[robindubois]

A couple of weeks ago I posted that the bad thing about the Blackpool game was nit just the points lost but the dent it made in our goal difference and I think that is going to be the case with the last relegation place being decided on goal difference.

Wigan have still have Reading away and Rotherham at home but as long as Millwall beat them next up they are down.

Blackpool do not seem to have a chance of another point and looked doomed. so that leaves one of five for the last spot. We have the most difficult run in Reading the only team below us have Wigan at home and Huddersfield away , Huddersfield have Cardiff away and Reading at home and Rotherham have Cardiff at home and Wigan away

So we cannot rely on other clubs not picking up points as there are too many 6 pointers . Best case is if we can pick up 4 points and one of the other 5 have a bad zero run but if these teams are playing out draws or beating each other alternatively we need 6 more points to stand a chance.

Looks bad but our fate is still in our own hands - as it was last night and we missed a couple of golden chances to take all 3 points. Still hope springs eternal.

[nomar]

Apr 20, 2023 8:41:26 GMT robindubois said:

A couple of weeks ago I posted that the bad thing about the Blackpool game was nit just the points lost but the dent it made in our goal difference and I think that is going to be the case with the last relegation place being decided on goal difference.

Wigan have still have Reading away and Rotherham at home but as long as Millwall beat them next up they are down.

Blackpool do not seem to have a chance of another point and looked doomed. so that leaves one of five for the last spot. We have the most difficult run in Reading the only team below us have Wigan at home and Huddersfield away , Huddersfield have Cardiff away and Reading at home and Rotherham have Cardiff at home and Wigan away

So we cannot rely on other clubs not picking up points as there are too many 6 pointers . Best case is if we can pick up 4 points and one of the other 5 have a bad zero run but if these teams are playing out draws or beating each other alternatively we need 6 more points to stand a chance.

Looks bad but our fate is still in our own hands - as it was last night and we missed a couple of golden chances to take all 3 points. Still hope springs eternal.

Our fate is still in our hands.

And therein lies the problem and the reason we are going down.

We won't match Reading's results the rest of the way and Cardiff are already now out of reach. Our frankly disgusting goal difference means Huddersfield are in reality a point ahead of us.

We need at least one win in our last 3 games and whilst I can see the other 3 relegation threatened teams fighting and pulling out shock results all I can see this useless bunch doing is rolling over and getting their heads handed to them the next 3 games.

But for a Reading 6 point deduction we basically are already in League 1 next season. That points deficit is definitely going to be wiped out in the next few games.

When, not if, we enter the bottom 3 we won't climb back out of it.

Let's face the reality, we're gone.