Post by rickyqpr on Nov 30, 2022 9:37:44 GMT
I have been reading and trying to digest just what our last managerial episode all meant. Trying to make sense of it all and deciding just what I believe etc.
First up, the venom and hatred that I have read and seen directed at Beale really is appalling. At the end of the day, it is only football, and he has moved on for a promotion. He has not invaded Ukraine.
Secondly, it is disappointing that some ‘fans’ place the blame at Hoos and Ferdinand’s door. For goodness sake, at the end of Beale’s short tenure we sit 7th in the league having even been top. It certainly looked like we were on the cusp of something very good. We are higher than we thought we would be.
But then on to Beale….. Clive (LFW) lost faith in Beale quicker than most. Clive is a huge opinion former, often in the know – and a very good writer. He alluded to things that he could not put in print for his own protection, so I was very keen to read his 5500 words that he threatened to publish once exit was confirmed. As others have said, it contains some shockers. My first reaction though was that I hoped he could back it up, but other stories have since emerged to validate Clive’s views it seems.
Beale loves the camera, the platform, the opportunity to promote his own greatness. I cannot remember a manager who has been so worthy of a listen whilst at QPR. Even with the contradictions, he talked a good theory. I have read that perhaps we oversold the proposition, but I now dismiss that, chiefly because Beale articulated the proposition so well himself. But I think that living away from his family, he must have over applied that brain of his, chatting up potential new players, getting carried away.
It now seems that after just 5 games with us, he was talking to Stoke City, only to be beaten by Alex Neil. I am not sure how Stoke would have been a step up on QPR right now, perhaps it was the lure of moving back with his family, or perhaps it was just the ego trip of being wanted. But it suggests that he already had decided that this ‘project’ was not a long-term career move. In his interviews this week, he has confirmed that there had been several approaches where he opted to stay at QPR (er… thanks Michael!) Our management and owners must have been fully aware as well.
Our run to the top of the table can of course forgive him almost anything. But then Wolves came calling. Beale has said repeatedly that he does not have an agent or representation, just a network of football contacts. For a man who is constantly working on his PR image, his reputation and credentials, he subsequently told the world that he had not had contact with Wolves. Those in the media reported this with great skepticism, with some reporting that he not only met with the club twice, but gave them the benefit of his Powerpoint presentation and agreed terms. Wolves thought they had their man. Beale changed his mind after Ferdinand talked him out of going and the next morning Beale rallied the players, the fans and the media with his honesty and integrity rejection speech. The press do not like being messed with (especially Sky) and the reporting was quite odd. No-one called him a liar, but it was clear that the media in general found it hard to join up the dots on this one. Our management and owners must have been aware of the reality as well.
It has been reported that Beale was on £15k per week at QPR and Wolves offered £60k and that terms had been agreed. If true, that was a huge sacrifice for Integrity and honesty. It seems that the Ferdinand persuasion included the offer of a revised contract for Beale and all his coaching team. The substantial wage increase carried with it a substantial increase to the compensation clause. The revised contract was not subsequently signed. The management and owners probably started the search for a successor at that time (if not before).
Beale never made any secret that he wanted to one day return to Rangers. It is reported that our owners and management were made aware even before he joined us. I don’t think this was thought to be so soon though. Pure speculation, but perhaps it was not Ferdinand’s powers of persuasion that halted the Wolves appointment, but a tap on the shoulder from North of the border to suggest the wait would not be that long after all. Then Beale was faced with how he could manipulate the media for a favourable PR outcome. Then came the infamous rejection interview, that most, but not all, were taken in by. Our owners and managers knew the reality, Beale wanted out to Rangers, sooner rather than later, I wonder if they confronted him, or just let it ride.
As soon as the Rangers vacancy was announced, the game was up. Within a week, he had packed his integrity and honesty and set sail for Glasgow, apparently moving his unsettled family in the West Midlands with him.
For a man who constantly works on his image, believes in his own intelligence, is a people manager, relies on a positive network…..he made some serious errors. Although the rejection speech got him out of a hole, it has branded him a liar, the media will not forget. A number of pundits have called him out as well. He may well have damaged his cherished network, and judging by Lyndon Dykes post yesterday, lost credit with players. Laird’s recall to Manchester United may also be a consequence – these loaning clubs bought into Beale’s stewardship and mentoring of their young players. I just hope that they do not instead loan them to Glasgow rangers – the ultimate insult to QPR.
He has said that he wants to manage in Europe / Champions League – I wonder how long he gives himself in Glasgow.
Hoos statement on the departure made it clear that they had been expecting Beale’s departure for a while saying ‘ the process of finding a new manager does not start now..’ In other words , we have been readying ourselves for this – and possibly good riddance. If Beale talks non-stop to the media, he probably was always in Hoos ear as well.
Using Powerpoint put Beale a stride ahead of his competitors, but he maty not be quite as clever as he thinks he is. Maybe, having arrived at Harlington, and then the wonderful Heston, he decided that QPR was not big enough to match his ambition. Maybe, he realized that with the FFP headroom, there was a good chance that he could fail at QPR (especially after 5 games), or perhaps his unhappy family and living in London again weas not what was required. Certainly, the family seem to be more supportive of a move back to Scotland than a short trip down South for a project.
In the end, I am relieved that the saga is over, that we saw some decent football, topped the league, are still 7th and can go ahead with a new team. The problem for me though, is that it has knocked the enthusiasm out of me a little. A sort of ‘here we go again’ feeling. I just hope the new man gets off to a good start to give us all a much-needed lift. A slide down the table after Bealegate will turn the keyboard warriors into freefall.
First up, the venom and hatred that I have read and seen directed at Beale really is appalling. At the end of the day, it is only football, and he has moved on for a promotion. He has not invaded Ukraine.
Secondly, it is disappointing that some ‘fans’ place the blame at Hoos and Ferdinand’s door. For goodness sake, at the end of Beale’s short tenure we sit 7th in the league having even been top. It certainly looked like we were on the cusp of something very good. We are higher than we thought we would be.
But then on to Beale….. Clive (LFW) lost faith in Beale quicker than most. Clive is a huge opinion former, often in the know – and a very good writer. He alluded to things that he could not put in print for his own protection, so I was very keen to read his 5500 words that he threatened to publish once exit was confirmed. As others have said, it contains some shockers. My first reaction though was that I hoped he could back it up, but other stories have since emerged to validate Clive’s views it seems.
Beale loves the camera, the platform, the opportunity to promote his own greatness. I cannot remember a manager who has been so worthy of a listen whilst at QPR. Even with the contradictions, he talked a good theory. I have read that perhaps we oversold the proposition, but I now dismiss that, chiefly because Beale articulated the proposition so well himself. But I think that living away from his family, he must have over applied that brain of his, chatting up potential new players, getting carried away.
It now seems that after just 5 games with us, he was talking to Stoke City, only to be beaten by Alex Neil. I am not sure how Stoke would have been a step up on QPR right now, perhaps it was the lure of moving back with his family, or perhaps it was just the ego trip of being wanted. But it suggests that he already had decided that this ‘project’ was not a long-term career move. In his interviews this week, he has confirmed that there had been several approaches where he opted to stay at QPR (er… thanks Michael!) Our management and owners must have been fully aware as well.
Our run to the top of the table can of course forgive him almost anything. But then Wolves came calling. Beale has said repeatedly that he does not have an agent or representation, just a network of football contacts. For a man who is constantly working on his PR image, his reputation and credentials, he subsequently told the world that he had not had contact with Wolves. Those in the media reported this with great skepticism, with some reporting that he not only met with the club twice, but gave them the benefit of his Powerpoint presentation and agreed terms. Wolves thought they had their man. Beale changed his mind after Ferdinand talked him out of going and the next morning Beale rallied the players, the fans and the media with his honesty and integrity rejection speech. The press do not like being messed with (especially Sky) and the reporting was quite odd. No-one called him a liar, but it was clear that the media in general found it hard to join up the dots on this one. Our management and owners must have been aware of the reality as well.
It has been reported that Beale was on £15k per week at QPR and Wolves offered £60k and that terms had been agreed. If true, that was a huge sacrifice for Integrity and honesty. It seems that the Ferdinand persuasion included the offer of a revised contract for Beale and all his coaching team. The substantial wage increase carried with it a substantial increase to the compensation clause. The revised contract was not subsequently signed. The management and owners probably started the search for a successor at that time (if not before).
Beale never made any secret that he wanted to one day return to Rangers. It is reported that our owners and management were made aware even before he joined us. I don’t think this was thought to be so soon though. Pure speculation, but perhaps it was not Ferdinand’s powers of persuasion that halted the Wolves appointment, but a tap on the shoulder from North of the border to suggest the wait would not be that long after all. Then Beale was faced with how he could manipulate the media for a favourable PR outcome. Then came the infamous rejection interview, that most, but not all, were taken in by. Our owners and managers knew the reality, Beale wanted out to Rangers, sooner rather than later, I wonder if they confronted him, or just let it ride.
As soon as the Rangers vacancy was announced, the game was up. Within a week, he had packed his integrity and honesty and set sail for Glasgow, apparently moving his unsettled family in the West Midlands with him.
For a man who constantly works on his image, believes in his own intelligence, is a people manager, relies on a positive network…..he made some serious errors. Although the rejection speech got him out of a hole, it has branded him a liar, the media will not forget. A number of pundits have called him out as well. He may well have damaged his cherished network, and judging by Lyndon Dykes post yesterday, lost credit with players. Laird’s recall to Manchester United may also be a consequence – these loaning clubs bought into Beale’s stewardship and mentoring of their young players. I just hope that they do not instead loan them to Glasgow rangers – the ultimate insult to QPR.
He has said that he wants to manage in Europe / Champions League – I wonder how long he gives himself in Glasgow.
Hoos statement on the departure made it clear that they had been expecting Beale’s departure for a while saying ‘ the process of finding a new manager does not start now..’ In other words , we have been readying ourselves for this – and possibly good riddance. If Beale talks non-stop to the media, he probably was always in Hoos ear as well.
Using Powerpoint put Beale a stride ahead of his competitors, but he maty not be quite as clever as he thinks he is. Maybe, having arrived at Harlington, and then the wonderful Heston, he decided that QPR was not big enough to match his ambition. Maybe, he realized that with the FFP headroom, there was a good chance that he could fail at QPR (especially after 5 games), or perhaps his unhappy family and living in London again weas not what was required. Certainly, the family seem to be more supportive of a move back to Scotland than a short trip down South for a project.
In the end, I am relieved that the saga is over, that we saw some decent football, topped the league, are still 7th and can go ahead with a new team. The problem for me though, is that it has knocked the enthusiasm out of me a little. A sort of ‘here we go again’ feeling. I just hope the new man gets off to a good start to give us all a much-needed lift. A slide down the table after Bealegate will turn the keyboard warriors into freefall.
