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Post by Macmoish on May 1, 2022 10:26:32 GMT
Year ago today - A day after his departure was announced by QPR
Mark Warburton talks about QPR's loss to Sheff Ut, his departure, players etc
Via West London Sport
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Post by robindubois on May 1, 2022 12:30:11 GMT
Summary
Really makes me very sad to to listen to that.
A true gentleman who spoke he truth with dignity - some will stay he made "excuses" but he told it as it is, and has been.
Clear he is gutted by the late collapse but understands why it happened, clear he feels the job he started is not finished but that good progress has been made. Clear he wanted to carry on and finish the job but is not being given the opportunity. Clear he does not agree withe the decision. Clear that he and Eustace are a team working hand in hand and Eustace imo will not hang around especially if Warburton gets another job. Clear he helped developed our young players and is sad he cannot do more to help them (unless he buys them elsewhere). Clear he understands that tactics have to fit the players talents, not the other way round. Quite a few other take aways but what is done is done unfortunately.
Clear to me this is the biggest managerial dismissal mistake the club has made in a very very long time. The next appointment - well at this point I don't give a **** because it should not be happening and I cannot see it taking us further forward better than Warburton would have done. One season manager from Newport? - FFS.
All respect and thanks and best wishes to Warburton.
My first match was in the 1957/8 season and today is the first time I have ever felt like giving up. Doubt I will but that's it for this season at least.
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Post by harr on May 1, 2022 15:03:26 GMT
Sadly MW had no idea how to turn this situation around since the end Of January.
There was every possibility that come August we carried on just the same way we were going at 0.7 points per game.
The clubs owners made the decision and we have to go along with it.
He has done a very good club at the club for 2 1/2 years but lost his way sadly in 2022, it can happen..
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Post by Macmoish on May 1, 2022 15:06:07 GMT
QPR havent done very well in the Managerial Appointment department. Warburton was probably the best appointment since Fernandes et al. And of course we're limited in what we can pay and what can we spend. So question isn't whether there are better than Warburton out there; but whether we can find and appoint and support someone better
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Post by londonranger on May 1, 2022 17:29:10 GMT
Not going to lose any sleep over this. The game goes on, we have a couple of months off. To me team building is more important than who the next manager is.
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Post by robindubois on May 2, 2022 7:45:20 GMT
QPR havent done very well in the Managerial Appointment department. Warburton was probably the best appointment since Fernandes et al. And of course we're limited in what we can pay and what can we spend. So question isn't whether there are better than Warburton out there; but whether we can find and appoint and support someone better So if the real issue is providing better support why sack the manager when we know how difficult it will be to find a better one with our resources. |
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Post by robindubois on May 2, 2022 7:55:20 GMT
Not going to lose any sleep over this. The game goes on, we have a couple of months off. To me team building is more important than who the next manager is. Team building is the job and responsibility of the manager. Without a decent manager who is going to build a team? . By your theory, that the manager is of little importance, our dip over recent months has nothing to do with the manager so why sack him?. Might as well just sign some players and tell them play as a team without a manager and save the money. |
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Post by robindubois on May 2, 2022 8:00:24 GMT
Sadly MW had no idea how to turn this situation around since the end Of January. There was every possibility that come August we carried on just the same way we were going at 0.7 points per game. The clubs owners made the decision and we have to go along with it. He has done a very good club at the club for 2 1/2 years but lost his way sadly in 2022, it can happen.. Yeah - truth is Hoos should have seen this coming and we should have sacked him at the start of December and we would be champions by now. Maybe he lost his way - I don't think so. But there are a number of players who lost their way and no one holds them accountable. I agree the ultimate responsibility is the managers but there is more to it than managerial stats. |
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Post by rickyqpr on May 2, 2022 8:20:37 GMT
if the bookies are correct (and they rarely lose money) then is Eustace going to be the sea change message boards desire?
I think he has been on a promise since the Swansea approach. Warburton is the scapegoat for our demise. it could equally have been the First Team Coach (Neil Banfield)
If Eustace gets the job he gets my support, but I remain skeptical.
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Post by nomar on May 2, 2022 8:43:12 GMT
Managers come and go in football all the time.
Warburton has done brilliantly, but the last 2 months have pretty much sealed his fate here, I think.
Yes, you can point to injuries, but you can also look at other teams who have similar budgets to us and who also have had to deal with injuries and their season’s haven’t nose dived like ours has. The last few months have been relegation level football and, as Harr said, if that carried on at the start of next season, which is only a few months away, he’d be gone anyway and we’d be in a deep Derby like hole very early on.
Based on the last two months, if this was a beloved pet you’d have put it out of its misery rather than watch it carry on suffering and getting worse while you were hoping that it would get better. Well, the board has put everyone including Mark Warburton out of their misery, which was the kindest thing to do.
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Post by blatantfowl on May 2, 2022 8:53:15 GMT
We’ve really ballsed this up. If Warburton decided to come out swinging he’d have more than enough to point to justify what a crazy decision this is.
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Post by blatantfowl on May 2, 2022 8:59:34 GMT
Managers come and go in football all the time. Based on the last two months, if this was a beloved pet you’d have put it out of its misery rather than watch it carry on suffering and getting worse while you were hoping that it would get better. Well, the board has put everyone including Mark Warburton out of their misery, which was the kindest thing to do. That’s the wrong analogy. Our beloved pet was at deaths door 2 1/2 years ago and it’s not been enough for the owner to see it healthy and with a future. Because it hasn’t become Crufts champion quickly enough we’ve sacked the vet. |
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Post by rangersman on May 2, 2022 10:21:43 GMT
Good move in my book, he was and remains clueless in many situations. His strategy baffles me, and he has gone as far as he is able to with this club. Whoever we get in charge will hopefully be a big improvement. Maybe another club for MW will improve him as a manager too.
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Post by LifeR on May 2, 2022 11:27:05 GMT
Summary Really makes me very sad to to listen to that. A true gentleman who spoke he truth with dignity - some will stay he made "excuses" but he told it as it is, and has been. Clear he is gutted by the late collapse but understands why it happened, clear he feels the job he started is not finished but that good progress has been made. Clear he wanted to carry on and finish the job but is not being given the opportunity. Clear he does not agree withe the decision. Clear that he and Eustace are a team working hand in hand and Eustace imo will not hang around especially if Warburton gets another job. Clear he helped developed our young players and is sad he cannot do more to help them (unless he buys them elsewhere). Clear he understands that tactics have to fit the players talents, not the other way round. Quite a few other take aways but what is done is done unfortunately. Clear to me this is the biggest managerial dismissal mistake the club has made in a very very long time. The next appointment - well at this point I don't give a **** because it should not be happening and I cannot see it taking us further forward better than Warburton would have done. One season manager from Newport? - FFS. All respect and thanks and best wishes to Warburton. My first match was in the 1957/8 season and today is the first time I have ever felt like giving up. Doubt I will but that's it for this season at least. Eloquent and resonant RD. Nothing to add to this. Cheers sir. |
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Post by Macmoish on May 2, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
I would be very surprised if Warburton went public. He seems far too much of a Gentleman (and a realist) to not do that. He's not a Redknapp, Holloway or even Warnock who loved the press
As for Team Building: Absolutely Warburton should be to a large extent held accountable for collapse (although doesnt mean I'd axe him). But Players incoming or not coming, I'd say is more Ferdinand (and budget choices Hoos and the board)
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 3, 2022 8:22:54 GMT
A straight up and honest interview. No dramatics, just the truth being said. Great to watch.
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Post by Macmoish on Apr 29, 2023 9:01:09 GMT
Year flashback
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