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Post by Macmoish on Jan 16, 2016 19:26:53 GMT
First of all, I'd hold off just a little bit of believing things from QPR. That they fully expected Austin to stay till Summer (or beyond) and suddenly Austin told yesterday...
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Post by Roller on Jan 16, 2016 20:29:38 GMT
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jan 16, 2016 21:03:02 GMT
I hate football agents, they rank down there with FIFA & UEFA Presidents and are just as trustworthy.
Back to the club, its owners and the various senior management team. Here is your new anthem.........
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Post by londonranger on Jan 16, 2016 21:06:44 GMT
Pray tell, how do QPR, benefit from selling him for only 4 mill. when we wouldn't accept much much more,in summer. Maybe some hidden reason, Im not aware of.?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 23:52:52 GMT
Well done Les , you got less than half what we could've sold him for in the summer , great bit of business . Gonna spend it on washed up Crouch ? Or half payment to the guy that can't get in the Palace side ? Sterling work director of football and technical director !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 23:55:29 GMT
Let's hope Phillips follows , get £5m for him and it'll be a great bit of business . Actually worth a fraction of that though !
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Post by harr on Jan 17, 2016 0:02:18 GMT
Well done Les , you got less than half what we could've sold him for in the summer , great bit of business . Gonna spend it on washed up Crouch ? Or half payment to the guy that can't get in the Palace side ? Sterling work director of football and technical director ! I would love Gayle as a replacement, would tear this League up. Probably out of our price range unless we got a loan and bought in the summer once we offload Fer, Caulker and Sandro. I think they were just being nice to Charlie but like you say, I ws expecting 7-8 million return even in January. If we have a 20-25 % buyout clause and Saints sell him on for 20 Million, im happy with that and maybe we get first refusal on Saints players ....... Maybe we get Shane Long on loan for the rest of the season
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Post by sharky on Jan 17, 2016 0:10:25 GMT
Charlie wanted to go yesterday after saying only recently he wanted to stay. Why would you force a player of Charlie's ilk to stay when he doesn't want to and get money for him now when we'd get nothing in the summer? You also get a big 60K a week payment off the books for a player who hasn't played for us for nearly 2 months. Win-win-win in my book.
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Jan 17, 2016 1:10:20 GMT
He would have waited till end of contract and bigger sign on if Southampton hadn't come in as that's the area he wants to live in , to a top half team that made him made a decision as might not be there come the summer.
Think good fit and wish him all the best and thank his goals. Great bloke and don't blame him!
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Post by marshbowles10 on Jan 17, 2016 7:54:50 GMT
I don't think anyone blames him for leaving, let's be honest who'd want to stay at QPR with attacking PL football on the agenda and a salary package to match.
But I just think that anyone that thinks any player really cares about the Club they are playing for with one or two exceptions is not living in their world. They live a wonderful life and are paid handsomely for it. Their allegiance changes the day they put pen to paper. That's life and you just move on as other posters have put.
I just hope that the new CEO is better at his negotiation with the player's agent and Southampton with add on clauses than he is with his new badge suggestions.
Had we lost yesterday I suspect this message board would have looked a different place.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 17, 2016 9:04:37 GMT
London 24 QPR director of football explains why £4m Charlie Austin was sold to Southampton 07:55 17 January 2016 Charlie Austin came off the bench to score his eighth goal of the season on Saturday Charlie Austin came off the bench to score his eighth goal of the season on Saturday Les Ferdinand says the decision to sell Charlie Austin as one made ‘in the best financial interests of the club’.Former bricklayer Austin has only been in the professional game since 2009, when his fine form with Wessex League part-timers Poole Town earned a move to Swindon. The striker continued to find the net and moved on to Burnley before then joining QPR, where he became a fans’ favourite with 48 goals in 89 appearances. Austin, who has been out for the past month with a hamstring complaint, has scored 10 goals in 16 appearances this term and leaves Loftus Road with QPR director of football Ferdinand’s best wishes. “It’s no secret that Charlie is out of contract in the summer so this is a decision made in the best financial interests of the club,” he said. “Charlie has had a significant impact on this football club in his time here and we are hugely grateful to him for his contribution during his spell with us.
“Whilst we are sorry to lose Charlie, once he expressed an interest in moving to Southampton, we could not stand in his way.”Austin, who was called up by England for the first time at the end of last season, has penned a four-and-a-half-year deal at St Mary’s. “I’m delighted to have got it over the line so soon into January,” he told the club’s official website, www.saintsfc.co.uk. “I can’t wait to get started now. “As soon as Southampton showed an interest, that was the one club I wanted to go to. “You see the progression from when I was playing against Southampton for Swindon. “For me, it was important to come to a club that’s on the up and that’s what I’ve got here.” www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/qpr/qpr_director_of_football_explains_why_4m_charlie_austin_was_sold_to_southampton_1_4382193
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 17, 2016 9:19:13 GMT
His final two goals for QPR
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Post by Marc on Jan 17, 2016 10:21:42 GMT
Pray tell, how do QPR, benefit from selling him for only 4 mill. when we wouldn't accept much much more,in summer. Maybe some hidden reason, Im not aware of.? Maybe because only one or two offered much more in the summer and Charlie said no to the one that we said yes too.
How do we benefit, We get his transfer fee and in modern days I do not believe it is a straight 4 million without add on's but even at 4 million that is 4 million more than we would get than in the summer. Plus we save about six months of his salary and bonuses (yes players get bonuses based on performance) and we are close to 5 million better off.
What do we lose - some gaols if and when he would have been fit to play - maybe we would have got 20 games out of him that's £200,000plus per game. Matbe we would have got 10 games and that mean £500,000 per game.
Lots of posters on here and others keep harping on about TF and money but look at the posts on this thread - there are more about how we could have got more money if we had done this or that and the Sir Les and TF are to blame - very few talk about the football impact.
Someone else said that when we sold Rodney we went unbeaten for 20 odd games - much of hat to do with the team nol longer being told and feeling that they were a one man team and they pulled together to show it.
Of course I am just part of the hidden conspiracy paid by TF to tell lies - but feel free to dream on as everyone has their opinion - I just prefer the real world and looking forward to if and who we buy and how we do over the next 10 games instead of looking to run the club down
My dad still says that to this day. I'm not sure what people wanted the club to do tbh. Saying they could have sold him for much more in the summer is pointless as the clubs he would have wanted to go to didn't make any offers. Southampton looks like an ideal fit for him and a club he wanted, can anyone really see them doubling their offer if we'd turned it down? Would've been stuck with an unhappy player for the rest of the season and not a penny at the end of it. So good luck to Charlie and I hope he scores loads of goals for Southampton.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 17, 2016 10:44:21 GMT
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Someone else said that when we sold Rodney we went unbeaten for 20 odd games - much of hat to do with the team nol longer being told and feeling that they were a one man team and they pulled together to show it. .... Yes that "someone" was me who pointed out about the QPR Run post-Rodnee sale... (which at the time was one of the blackest days in QPR History)... There were a lot of things different then - and the players were very different. But certainly when Marsh was at QPR, QPR WERE Marsh.. (for better or worse - RODDDDDDDDD NEEEEEEEEE
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Jan 17, 2016 11:22:01 GMT
That is without doubt the worst bit of business this club has done since spending on Hateley..!! Would have been worse to let him go for zilch in the summer. And would you have sold him for £10-£12m in the summer if you thought we had a real chance of promotion this season? Bosingwa and others were arguably worse business than Hately... and what about Sturridge senior? The club gambled on Charlie and won back its stake money. Could have hit the jackpot, but could just as easily lost the lot.
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Post by kerrins on Jan 18, 2016 10:59:33 GMT
Yes in our situation he was always going to leave the only question was when. There is plenty of debate on here about the circumstances of his transfer and how the club management handled the affair so there is no need for me to add to that part of the discussion.
The bigger and more serious problem( which BP has already indicated in an earlier post)is the players we bring in as replacement. Our transfer strategy this season has been appalling. Said so all along. Basically this campaign we have signed a large amount of dross. Surely there is no one left that believes that summer hype about those 13 "wonderful" new signings!
I may have been joking when I said Charlie would be replaced by a Striker from Barnoldswick United... but can you trust this regime to sign anyone half decent?..and PLEASE don't use FFP as the major excuse.
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Post by sharky on Jan 18, 2016 11:09:05 GMT
I personally think that Polter is doing a good job at Championship level with a good contribution from Hoilett. One more striker would do me fine. It would be great to get rid of Sandro, Fer and Phillips to Prem teams so that the "dross" can show what they can do without looking over their shoulders at Prem level players who don't want to be here but have to be.
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Post by harr on Jan 18, 2016 11:14:56 GMT
We need two Strikers, get rid of JET and replace Charlie. I think JET as well as being lazy will end up as Taraabt no 2 .
If Green goes Another keeper
If Fer, Sandro , Phillips go three replacements .
A new Defender.
If we didnt replace them we will be light.
probably looking at 7 people in the next two weeks.
Gobern can go aswell if he isnt injured.
I think we should keep Hoillett as we will only get big loss on him if we sold him anyway.
We are already going to lose on Fer, Sandro and Caulker when he is sold.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 18, 2016 11:21:24 GMT
Since we're not going up this year...We just need to sign enough to not go down...
And get rid of as much as we can
Get much better deals/better options in the summer
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Post by harr on Jan 18, 2016 12:21:46 GMT
Since we're not going up this year...We just need to sign enough to not go down... And get rid of as much as we can Get much better deals/better options in the summer Yeah agree there. Unlike the summer though where Charlie,Fer,Sandro, Phillips and Green stayed. Feel theres so many desperate Prem teams at the minute that we could lose all these 4 this window. I also think JET might be sold. We couldnt not replace them all as would be very light indeed. Jan is not the time to buy though, maybe you will see more loans to tide us over and just keep us up.
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Post by nomar on Jan 18, 2016 12:51:55 GMT
Why do people always assume that we can sell half the sh*te we have masquerading as professional footballers?
The wages this lot are on we'd do well to get takers if we paid people to take them off our hands.
Likely stuck with these until Summer or their contracts run down, whichever comes first.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 18, 2016 13:05:50 GMT
Agree "Get rid of" doesnt always mean we can..
But - IF TO BE BELIEVED (big if!) several clubs linked to Phillips
Green - couple clubs reportedly
Ditto Onuoha (even if dont want to sell)
Now Sandro and Fer..who knows
And JET...Well we gave him 3 year deal..!
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Post by harr on Jan 18, 2016 13:33:19 GMT
Why do people always assume that we can sell half the sh*te we have masquerading as professional footballers? The wages this lot are on we'd do well to get takers if we paid people to take them off our hands. Likely stuck with these until Summer or their contracts run down, whichever comes first. Probably because we are desperate to offload now. Kept them on like Charlie when we had a chance of playoffs. We will want them off our books so we will give them away. Dont be surprised to see Sandro or Fer go for 4 Million or less, half what we paid. Phillips we wanted 10 for will probanly go for 5 now in an effort to reduce wages and free up some cash for JFH. There's always one mug out there that will by an individual crap player if the price is cheap. Lets face we did and at an extortionate value. Norwich fans told us Fer was crap, they were right and we knew Sandros injury history yet still bought him .....
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Post by harr on Jan 18, 2016 13:37:09 GMT
Agree "Get rid of" doesnt always mean we can.. But - IF TO BE BELIEVED (big if!) several clubs linked to Phillips Green - couple clubs reportedly Ditto Onuoha (even if dont want to sell) Now Sandro and Fer..who knows And JET...Well we gave him 3 year deal..! Well we are still signing a few crappy players inbetween the good ones...... Its not just a case of getting rid of some back from 1,2,3 managers ago. We still seem to be signing some, Gobern, Tozser, JET, Perch , theres 4 for starters , then we still have Diakite from 1997 we cant offload
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Post by nomar on Jan 18, 2016 22:01:27 GMT
Why do people always assume that we can sell half the sh*te we have masquerading as professional footballers? The wages this lot are on we'd do well to get takers if we paid people to take them off our hands. Likely stuck with these until Summer or their contracts run down, whichever comes first. Probably because we are desperate to offload now. Kept them on like Charlie when we had a chance of playoffs. We will want them off our books so we will give them away. Dont be surprised to see Sandro or Fer go for 4 Million or less, half what we paid. Phillips we wanted 10 for will probanly go for 5 now in an effort to reduce wages and free up some cash for JFH. There's always one mug out there that will by an individual crap player if the price is cheap. Lets face we did and at an extortionate value. Norwich fans told us Fer was crap, they were right and we knew Sandros injury history yet still bought him ..... Who in their right mind would spend £400 on Sandro let alone £4m?
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 18, 2016 22:05:01 GMT
Clearly Harry Redknapp!
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Post by harr on Jan 18, 2016 22:33:58 GMT
Probably because we are desperate to offload now. Kept them on like Charlie when we had a chance of playoffs. We will want them off our books so we will give them away. Dont be surprised to see Sandro or Fer go for 4 Million or less, half what we paid. Phillips we wanted 10 for will probanly go for 5 now in an effort to reduce wages and free up some cash for JFH. There's always one mug out there that will by an individual crap player if the price is cheap. Lets face we did and at an extortionate value. Norwich fans told us Fer was crap, they were right and we knew Sandros injury history yet still bought him ..... Who in their right mind would spend £400 on Sandro let alone £4m? We need Arry to get a job in this window pretty sharpish Or maybe some other newly promoted club thats throwing money around but there ground holds 10k ,how about Bournemouth...
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 23, 2016 8:46:22 GMT
TELEGRAPH Southampton striker Charlie Austin delighted to return after taking the long route to Premier League football Interview: £4m signing talks of his excitement to be back in the top flight, having taken much longer than Arsenal's Theo Walcott to make it there Southampton striker Charlie Austin delighted to return after taking the long route to Premier League football Austin is back on the south coast with Southampton Photo: Christopher Pledger The best ways to see Alberta's mountains and lakes With so many ways to enjoy the spectacular vistas that make Alberta so famous, why not try these great trip ideas? Sponsored by Travel Alberta Sam Wallace By Sam Wallace 4:52PM GMT 22 Jan 2016 Seven years since he scored 46 goals in 46 games for Poole Town in the Wessex Premier League, Charlie Austin is sitting amid the well-appointed luxury of a real Premier League training ground 35 miles down the south coast and reflecting on the kind of doubting attitude he often encounters. The thing about Austin is that every time he has been required to go up a level in his career – and he has done that a lot – he has risen to the challenge, so he wonders why anyone would think it would be different this time. A £4 million signing for Southampton last Saturday, a snip most would say, he is back in the Premier League where he scored 18 goals for Queens Park Rangers last season and ready to face Manchester United at Old Trafford on Saturday. When we meet at Southampton’s Staplewood training ground, Austin is still abuzz with excitement about his new move. He has always sensed a bias about where he came from, and where he came from was Kintbury Rangers in Berkshire, a 16-year-old playing men’s football. By the time he was scoring goals at Poole he was also laying bricks for his dad’s building firm. He turned professional at Swindon Town and went to Burnley, then QPR and now Southampton. Austin in training with his new club “I think there is that criticism because I have not come up from such-and-such an academy and had this brilliant start to my career,” he wonders. “But that just fuels my fire and gives me a boost to say, ‘Right I am going to show you’. Not that I need to show them. • 10 questions for the weekend “I feel like ‘You can have your say’ and that is what will happen with a lot of people but I go back to this latest move. I don’t think anyone saw it happening because I wasn’t given the credit that someone like myself would join a club like Southampton. Where would I fit in at Southampton football club? That’s what I was getting.” Yet, Austin knows exactly where he fits in, and that is arriving in the opponents’ box just in time to score goals. He does not know how he does it, just that it is an instinct that has served him well all the way from the days when he was released by Reading’s academy to the Premier League and the England squad for whom Roy Hodgson selected him last season, although he still awaits his first cap. Austin (front centre) Walcott (fron right) pictured in 2000 “Of course I back my ability,” Austin says. “I showed that in the first season in the Premier League scoring [an average of] one in two. Why can’t I do that again? Why can’t I better that? Why can’t I come in and consistently score goals for Southampton? That’s certainly what I believe I can do and have been brought into the team to do. “I will be excited to work with the manager here and his ideas will only bring me on as a player … he sees me as a centre-forward: hold it up, pass it off, get in the box. It’s nothing complicated that’s part of my game. I don’t feel I need to turn and run with the ball and do all that. I just give it to someone else and attack crosses. • Everything you need to know about United vs Southampton “It [the goalscoring] has always been there. It’s something I have always had. I have been lucky enough to be in that place. I remember Leroy Fer saying to me last year, ‘How do you keep doing it? The ball just falls to you!’ I said, “I don’t know mate, I’m in the right place at the right time!’ I have taken that from Kintbury when I was 15 all the way to now.” Back in his hometown of Hungerford, Austin formed a prolific schoolboy partnership for the local district side with a fleet-footed striker from the Berkshire village of Compton, one Theo Walcott. Walcott left Southampton for Arsenal ten years ago this month and while he found fame and recognition, Austin was turning out in the North Berks Division Two for Kintbury reserves. Austin scored 18 Premier League goals last season “Theo was ‘boomph’, straight there! Sixteen and off to Arsenal! It was mad,” recalls Austin. “I went my way, but would I change that? No chance. Theo and I played against each other for our schools and then after year 9, he wasn’t allowed to play schools’ football. Southampton must have kiboshed it! I also played cricket against him. Then he stopped doing that too. “I was happy for him. I didn’t think I was going to get there. When I was younger I would say to people ‘I played with him, that Theo Walcott’. Then we linked up when I played for QPR against Arsenal in the Premier League. It was great that we were reunited. Growing up seeing him do so well has been a great pleasure.” Does he have a theory as to why more players, like him, Jamie Vardy and Chris Smalling are emerging from non-league? “They [academies] start too young, maybe? I don’t know. How can you say a nine year old is no good? No one knows what they will be like in five years’ time. Even ten years’ time. There are players out there who are good enough and given the opportunity will take it. But it is about being given that chance and being seen and being in the right place. “The talented ones will always shine. People say, ‘Oh, you can do this and you can do that’ but no-one wants to take a chance on you.” Vardy took a similar path to the top When Austin stayed put in the summer and went back to the Championship with relegated QPR, despite offers from Crystal Palace, he felt there were those who believed he had made a mistake. Southampton’s move this month, he says, proves that he was right to wait for the kind of club he really wanted. “People were saying ‘You’re mad’ when I didn’t go in the summer. I felt strongly about not leaving and you look back now and was it the right decision? Yes it was. If I had moved in the summer I wouldn’t be sat here with you now at Southampton. It wasn’t an option. As soon as it became an option it was a no-brainer for me to join the club. • How football clubs make their money “I was quite strong when I look back at some of the decisions I made. I am delighted I stuck to my guns and said, ‘I am not leaving’. All those decisions have been the right ones. Everything has worked out. Look at this club, it’s on the up. Over the last five years they have only gone in one direction. I want to be part of that. It can only take me as a person and my football career to another level.” Austin hopes to hit the ground running at Southampton Photo: Christopher Pledger The first he knew about the transfer was last week when his agent David Threlfall called to tell him that QPR had informed him that Southampton had been in contact, and to sit tight. There was interest from Newcastle United and Galatasaray, in Turkey, but it was Southampton who made the running.
“On Friday I got the call that the clubs had agreed a deal in principle,” Austin says. “I went in and spoke to Jimmy [Floyd Hasselbaink] and he was first class. He understood exactly what I was saying. He said ‘I wish you all the best. If it comes off for you I will be really pleased. If not I will see you Monday!’ From the first moment I just knew it was the best option. I went home and we were just waiting for an email to come through to say that I could go down there. At 7pm I was told to come down for a medical and signed Saturday morning.”
He had a close relationship with QPR chairman Tony Fernandes who he says always believed in him, even when the club were signing much bigger names. At Southampton he is back with a former Burnley team-mate Jay Rodriguez, who is close to a return from his long-term injury problems. Come this afternoon, Austin will be back in the league – having experienced many others – that he knows he belongs in.
“This was the best route for me. If I had gone through the academy I might have got released at 17 but I went the other way and got my chance at 20. I have grabbed it with both hands. When I look back and think about where I have come from it has been brilliant. I kept my feet on the ground all the way. Anyway, everything happens for a reason, doesn’t it?” www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/12115921/Southampton-striker-Charlie-Austin-delighted-to-return-after-taking-the-long-route-to-Premier-League-football.html
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 3, 2016 18:41:49 GMT
Mail David Sullivan says West Ham would have signed Charlie Austin for £4million before facing Southampton man this weekend Charlie Austin was linked with a move to West Ham last summer A move didn't happen with West Ham unsure due to Austin's injury record Austin moved to Southampton for £4million from QPR in January By Jack Bezants for MailOnline Published: 13:16 EST, 3 February 2016 | Updated: 13:16 EST, 3 February 2016 1 View comments West Ham co-chairman David Sullivan has played down scepticism of Southampton's signing of Charlie Austin ahead of the fixture between the two sides at the weekend. Austin joined Southampton for £4million in January form Queens Park Rangers, departing Loftus Road with six months left on his contract. He scored 18 Premier League goals last season when QPR were relegated and was linked with a £12m move to West Ham. Charlie Austin joined Southampton from Queens Park Rangers for £4million in the January transfer window +3 Charlie Austin joined Southampton from Queens Park Rangers for £4million in the January transfer window West Ham co-chairman David Sullivan (right) used his programme notes to praise Austin's Southampton move +3 West Ham co-chairman David Sullivan (right) used his programme notes to praise Austin's Southampton move RELATED ARTICLES Previous 1 Next But a transfer never materialised, with West Ham hesitant due to a knee injury sustained by Austin earlier in his career. 'Our next league game is away at Southampton and I just want to clarify my views on the Charlie Austin situation,' Sullivan said in the programme for West Ham's 2-0 win against Aston Villa on Tuesday. 'Contrary to reports, he is a player I have always greatly admired and his climb through the divisions is inspiring. I once said at £12m he was a gamble, with his injury record. Austin (centre) and Southampton take on West Ham in the Premier League this weekend +3 Austin (centre) and Southampton take on West Ham in the Premier League this weekend 'However, if his financial demands are reasonable, Southampton have got fantastic value at £4m. 'Had I known he was available at that price, I would have taken the gamble myself, and I am sure half the Premier League clubs would have as well.'www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3430454/David-Sullivan-says-West-Ham-signed-Charlie-Austin-4million-facing-Southampton-man-weekend.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 19, 2017 10:57:21 GMT
Year Flashback
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