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Post by harr on Nov 11, 2015 20:37:59 GMT
Well I saw the little ticky thing and presumed it was. Hope so. Anyhow Pearson now 6/4. and Warnock gone out to 6:1 in the last hour ? Maybe Pearson it is. Have to think that Hoos & Pearson are unlikely to work together ever again....thank god Hoos and Pearson Karsa and Lambert Anyone Les dont get on with  |
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Post by harr on Nov 11, 2015 20:50:29 GMT
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Post by eusebio13 on Nov 11, 2015 20:55:32 GMT
While I like Monk can't help but think that he's the product of a very sound & sensible environment. Having looked at those available I'd stick with Warnock until the right candidate is available (this presumes we continue to have Ferdinand sourcing players & not Warnock)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 5:58:55 GMT
Please not Lambert , let Blackburn or Fulham have him , Pearson or Warnock for me !
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Post by nomar on Nov 12, 2015 7:53:23 GMT
As I have slowly learned: What Tony Fernandes say at 10 am is not always the same as what he says at 4pm. Or, even, at 10:02am. |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 12, 2015 8:20:01 GMT
MAIL www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3314982/QPR-locked-power-struggle-Les-Ferdinand-Neil-Warnock-Championship-club-decide-new-manager.html
QPR locked in power struggle between Les Ferdinand and Neil Warnock as Championship club decide on new manager
Les Ferdinand is making his case for Neil Warnock not to be given the job
The director of football believes Warnock is angling for it long-term
Paul Lambert is a genuine contender should he turn down Blackburn
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Nigel Pearson are under consideration
By Joe Bernstein for MailOnline Published: 03:00 EST, 12 November 2015 | Updated: 03:00 EST, 12 November 2015 QPR are locked in the middle of a power struggle between director of football Les Ferdinand and first-team advisor Neil Warnock that has already cost one manager his job and will affect who owner Tony Fernandes decides to appoint as a replacement. Ferdinand has been trying to persuade Fernandes and chief executive Lee Hoos in Malaysia this week that he would not like to see Warnock given the job for the rest of the season as the 66-year-old wants. A call was placed on Tuesday night to Paul Lambert to let him know he would be a genuine candidate should he turn down Blackburn Rovers, while Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Nigel Pearson are also under consideration. Warnock, a former Hoops boss, returned to the club in a consultancy capacity last month but his presence undermined Ramsey before he was sacked last week after the team lost 1-0 at Derby County. The final nail on Ramsey's coffin came at Pride Park when Warnock stormed into the Rangers dressing-room and lambasted the players over the manager's head. A stunned Ferdinand wanted Ramsey, a close friend, to seize control but he failed to do so, and his departure was announced with the club convinced he had lost his authority. NOTTINGHAM, ENGLAND - NOVEMBER 16: Notts County manager Shaun Derry applauds the supporters ahead of the Sky Bet League One match between Notts County and Wolverhampton Wanderers at Meadow Lane on November 16, 2013 in Nottingham, England. (Photo by Chris Brunskill/Getty Images) Neil Warnock keen to bring in former QPR midfielder Shaun... QPR Interim head coach Neil Warnock on the touchline, reenacting a foul against his player, for the linesman during the Sky Bet Championship match between QPR and Preston North End played at Loftus Road, London, on November 7th QPR Interim Head Coach Neil Warnock Neil Warnock insists he is sad over Chris Ramsey sacking as... Manager Chris Ramsey of QPR during the Sky Bet Championship match between Derby County and Queens Park Rangers played at the iPRO Stadium, Derby, on November 3rd 2015 Chris Ramsey sacked by QPR as Neil Warnock appointed interim... Warnock, who has won seven promotions as a manager, has said since that he would expect to be consulted on the club's next manager and took charge of Saturday's game against Preston which finished 0-0. Ferdinand, a club legend as a player, believes Warnock is angling for the job on a permanent basis which would undermine his own authority. To add to the confusion, Fernandes is leaning more on American Hoos, who joined the club last summer from Burnley. Former Aston Villa and Norwich manager Paul Lambert is a genuine contender for the QPR job Chris Ramsey was sacked as manager following QPR's 1-0 defeat by Derby County last week +5 Chris Ramsey was sacked as manager following QPR's 1-0 defeat by Derby County last week A settlement with Ramsey, who signed a three-year contract in May, is also being discussed in the Far East and Rangers would like the highly-rated coach to stay at the club in some capacity. Fernandes gave an update on Twitter in response to a question from a fan: 'Have the board reached a conclusion on a new manager for QPR Tony?' The Rangers owner replied: 'not yet. Les and Lee in kl at the moment. Discussing many things including your question but no rush.' QPR owner Tony Fernandes is currently deliberating over who to appoint as Ramsey's replacement +5 QPR owner Tony Fernandes is currently deliberating over who to appoint as Ramsey's replacement Warnock led QPR to promotion to the Premier League in 2011/12 but was sacked the following January after an eight-game winless streak left them in 17th position. To add to the sense of farce, Ferdinand has been struck by food poisoning while in Malaysia and had to delay his return to England. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3314982/QPR-locked-power-struggle-Les-Ferdinand-Neil-Warnock-Championship-club-decide-new-manager.html#ixzz3rGOMROAN |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 12, 2015 9:09:06 GMT
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 12, 2015 9:18:04 GMT
I didn't read anywhere that Warnock had stormed into the dressing room at half time in the Derby match and undermined Chris Ramsey thereby costing him the job until I read that Mail article, perhaps I just missed it. I would have thought that this story would have been aired before given the amount of witnesses and the happy way in which players communicated such things. That bit is the stuff of messageboards and no one's commented so far - strange!
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Post by harr on Nov 12, 2015 9:29:20 GMT
I didn't read anywhere that Warnock had stormed into the dressing room at half time in the Derby match and undermined Chris Ramsey thereby costing him the job until I read that Mail article, perhaps I just missed it. I would have thought that this story would have been aired before given the amount of witnesses and the happy way in which players communicated such things. That bit is the stuff of messageboards and no one's commented so far - strange! First time I had read it anywhere Alfa. Nothing surprises me at QPR. Not a very nice way of doing things. It appears that Les wants one thing and NW wants maybe the role until the end of season. Getting a little messy, someone will probably end up walking away. Then you have Hoos v Pearson, making it difficult to employ him. Then you have Lambert v Karsa, same here. |
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Post by Markqpr on Nov 12, 2015 9:52:45 GMT
I knew that Warnock had given the half time team talk at Derby, but the impression I was given was that it was beside Ramsey and certainly not storming in and giving the talk over his head.
It might be true that he was less than pleased with the performance and that he lambasted the team and that has led the journalist to sensationalise the story but the moment Warnock was allowed to give the half time team talk was a signal that Ramsey was being seriously undermined from above and that can lead the squad to lose belief in him.
Typical QPR: shooting it's-self in the foot. Again.
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 12, 2015 10:01:29 GMT
No Shaun Derry..Appointed Manager of Cambridge
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 12, 2015 10:01:41 GMT
And Pearce it seems, but he was interested in Fulham out of the two posts. |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 12, 2015 10:12:54 GMT
Whatever the truth re Warnock: As Mark says: This is self-inflicted - Allowed or brought about by people in the club at the top level
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Post by harr on Nov 12, 2015 10:39:17 GMT
And Pearce it seems, but he was interested in Fulham out of the two posts. Thank small mercies for that then. |
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Post by timewaster on Nov 12, 2015 12:06:57 GMT
I am sure we were out of the relegation positions in the premiership, the day Ferdinand arrived without a job title. A great move by TF  |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 12, 2015 13:08:10 GMT
David McIntyre/West London Sport Warnock brings in Blackwell to assist him at QPR By David McIntyre 12/11/2015 Neil Warnock has brought in Kevin Blackwell to assist him at QPR. Blackwell worked with Warnock at Sheffield United, Huddersfield, Bury and Plymouth, having played under him at Scarborough, Notts County and Torquay. Rangers were keen to appoint Blackwell as manager in 2009 but were unable to agree his release from Sheffield United. As well as the Blades, the 56-year-old ex-goalkeeper has managed Leeds, Luton and Bury. Former Rangers boss Warnock was recently placed in interim charge following the sacking of head coach Chris Ramsey. QPR’s owners have met with director of football Les Ferdinand in Malaysia this week to discuss the club’s longer-term plans. The QPR hierarchy have met in Malaysia this week The QPR hierarchy have met in Malaysia this week Ferdinand, who was due to attend a fans forum on Thursday, has been advised by doctors not to travel for at least 24 hours after being laid low by food poisoning. Several managers have been touted as possible contenders to replace Ramsey, including Tim Sherwood and Nigel Pearson. Neither are currently being considered for the job but at this stage it is unclear how much of an input Warnock, who favours Pearson, will have. Warnock is keen to influence the recruitment process and would like a role at Loftus Road similar to the one currently held by Ferdinand. Pearson, a leading contender for the Fulham manager’s job, was sacked by Leicester City in June following a number of run-ins with the Midlands club’s owners, who are friends of QPR’s co-chairmen Ruben Gnanalingam and Tony Fernandes. Sherwood was lined up to replace Harry Redknapp at QPR last year but Fernandes later became reluctant to appoint him and instead pursued Paul Clement, who was then assistant boss at Real Madrid and is now Derby manager, before eventually installing Ramsey. Former Tottenham manager Sherwood is available, having recently been sacked by Aston Villa, but the Rangers hierarchy do not currently regard him as a candidate. www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/warnock-brings-in-blackwell-to-assist-him-at-qpr |
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Post by Dufster on Nov 12, 2015 19:53:58 GMT
I am sure we were out of the relegation positions in the premiership, the day Ferdinand arrived without a job title. A great move by TF Said from the off that NW and LF will now be on a collision course...its inevitable, NW will be feeling who the fck is Les to tell him anything!!
I'm sure Les will be thinking he's a fcking Dinosaur!!
Quite right timewaster all of a sudden LF was TF 's new best mate last October and Redknapp was then totally undermined and on the way out....Guess Les knows how that feels now!
I know who I would rather...
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Post by harr on Nov 12, 2015 20:08:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 21:29:42 GMT
Ferdinands got no credibility for his ridiculous role , he must've played a role in Ramsey getting the job in the first place so just for that reason should have very little say in who should be next manager . Would trust Warnocks judgement over his anytime . Pearson for me not Lambert !
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Post by bowranger on Nov 13, 2015 11:27:52 GMT
Ferdinands got no credibility for his ridiculous role , he must've played a role in Ramsey getting the job in the first place so just for that reason should have very little say in who should be next manager . Would trust Warnocks judgement over his anytime . Pearson for me not Lambert ! In fairness, if the DoF role is about strategy and transfers, I thought he did a pretty good job over the summer in terms of what the original stated aim from TF was for the club - consolidation, cost cutting, stability. Cut the wage bill, moved a lot of the higher earners on, brought in quite a few promising young players who actually see QPR as a step-up/big opportunity. Then the remit changed and he seemed to throw Ramsey under the bus. It's not all worked out, I don't think all of the signings made sense, but he put together a team that's mid-table in the Championship, which again was what he was tasked with achieving at the time. The thing about Warnock's judgement is that Warnock is one of the biggest proponents out there for there being a footballing brain between the manager and the boardroom and I completely agree. He's been banging on about that for ages. That's why I was glad LF was appointed to do that, even if I'm not 100% if he's the right person to do it, because we've been going through managers at an alarming rate, continue to do so, and that having a DoF who dictates the longer term strategy for the team provides at least some semblance of stability. So either Warnock isn't in the hot seat for the long term, someone else is brought in and Neil Warnock slips into the DoF role at the expense of LF or Warnock takes on the manager role in the long term and looks a massive hypocrite if he sidelines LF because Warnock is one of the most vocal people for wanting a DoF style appointment at QPR. |
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Post by harr on Nov 13, 2015 12:30:58 GMT
Sounds like Ramsey has had a passing shot to Warnock about getting Traore in the team.
I think its going to get very bitter with Les, Ramsey and Warnock and this bitteress will carry on right to the players.
Maybe be best we get a new Mamager in pretty sharpish and let him bring his team with him.
If this means CR moves on then so be it.
Its just a case then that new Manager has to work under DOF, some dont want to.
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Post by Marc on Nov 13, 2015 12:43:01 GMT
Ferdinands got no credibility for his ridiculous role , he must've played a role in Ramsey getting the job in the first place so just for that reason should have very little say in who should be next manager . Would trust Warnocks judgement over his anytime . Pearson for me not Lambert ! In fairness, if the DoF role is about strategy and transfers, I thought he did a pretty good job over the summer in terms of what the original stated aim from TF was for the club - consolidation, cost cutting, stability. Cut the wage bill, moved a lot of the higher earners on, brought in quite a few promising young players who actually see QPR as a step-up/big opportunity. Then the remit changed and he seemed to throw Ramsey under the bus. It's not all worked out, I don't think all of the signings made sense, but he put together a team that's mid-table in the Championship, which again was what he was tasked with achieving at the time. The thing about Warnock's judgement is that Warnock is one of the biggest proponents out there for there being a footballing brain between the manager and the boardroom and I completely agree. He's been banging on about that for ages. That's why I was glad LF was appointed to do that, even if I'm not 100% if he's the right person to do it, because we've been going through managers at an alarming rate, continue to do so, and that having a DoF who dictates the longer term strategy for the team provides at least some semblance of stability. So either Warnock isn't in the hot seat for the long term, someone else is brought in and Neil Warnock slips into the DoF role at the expense of LF or Warnock takes on the manager role in the long term and looks a massive hypocrite if he sidelines LF because Warnock is one of the most vocal people for wanting a DoF style appointment at QPR. I think hughesh8tr is thinking of the original role LF had (Head of Football Operations) of which the title rather than the role was ridiculed by Redknapp. He was of course, later on, given the role of Director of Football, a widely recognised and utilised role (and title) in football, so not ridiculous at all. |
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 13, 2015 21:01:11 GMT
Sounds very much like The Sun - but maybe I'm misjudging them www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6742149/Neil-Warnock-could-spark-West-London-war-after-eyeing-up-Fulham-job.htmlNeil Warnock could spark West London war after eyeing up Fulham job NEIL WARNOCK could spark a West London war after throwing his hat into the ring for the Fulham job. Warnock is currently in temporary charge of their fierce local and Championship rivals QPR. But the Yorkshireman has made it known he fancies replacing Kit Symons at Craven Cottage after the ex-Wales international was sacked last week. Former Loftus Road chief Warnock, 66, recently rejoined the R’s as first-team adviser. He has been caretaker-boss since Chris Ramsey was axed by owner Tony Fernandes ten days ago, following the 1-0 defeat to Derby that left QPR stuck in 13th place. Warnock believes he will not get the job permanently and insists he is merely “helping out” at Loftus Road. But it will still rankle fans to learn the manager who won the Championship in 2011 and took the club up to the Premier League is ready to jump ship to their arch-rivals. Particularly as the two unfriendly neighbours are level on 20 points after 16 games — although Fulham are one place higher thanks to goal difference. The Cottagers’ chief football officer Mike Rigg is going through job applications from candidates keen to replace 44-year-old Symons, who got the boot after Saturday’s 5-2 loss to Birmingham. One man who has ruled himself out of the running for BOTH vacancies is Glasgow Rangers boss Mark Warburton. Fulham and QPR are interested in luring the former Brentford chief back down south but he has shunned them so far. Former Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert and ex-Chelsea striker and current Burton chief Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink are among the hopefuls. |
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Post by londonranger on Nov 13, 2015 21:20:10 GMT
QPR doesn't score goals. I would enjoy us scoring goals, more than a new manager. Actually Warnocks promotion year, we scored many goals. So can Warnock repeat that? We have a genuine scorer in Austin,
but he ,lost his holder upper to Brighton. Let us sign goal scorers. Say, like Furs. Our playoff win season, we hardly scored. Many 1-0 wins by Austin. Even under Sousa, we didn't score much, and then the manager a month
Brie season, we sank down the sewer until rescued by Warnock.. Arsene Wenger has managed Arsenal forever. Could Warnock be our "forever" manager. At least his knee won't go out at 5am. At least I hope not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 8:38:41 GMT
Sounds very much like The Sun - but maybe I'm misjudging them www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6742149/Neil-Warnock-could-spark-West-London-war-after-eyeing-up-Fulham-job.htmlNeil Warnock could spark West London war after eyeing up Fulham job NEIL WARNOCK could spark a West London war after throwing his hat into the ring for the Fulham job. Warnock is currently in temporary charge of their fierce local and Championship rivals QPR. But the Yorkshireman has made it known he fancies replacing Kit Symons at Craven Cottage after the ex-Wales international was sacked last week. Former Loftus Road chief Warnock, 66, recently rejoined the R’s as first-team adviser. He has been caretaker-boss since Chris Ramsey was axed by owner Tony Fernandes ten days ago, following the 1-0 defeat to Derby that left QPR stuck in 13th place. Warnock believes he will not get the job permanently and insists he is merely “helping out” at Loftus Road. But it will still rankle fans to learn the manager who won the Championship in 2011 and took the club up to the Premier League is ready to jump ship to their arch-rivals. Particularly as the two unfriendly neighbours are level on 20 points after 16 games — although Fulham are one place higher thanks to goal difference. The Cottagers’ chief football officer Mike Rigg is going through job applications from candidates keen to replace 44-year-old Symons, who got the boot after Saturday’s 5-2 loss to Birmingham. One man who has ruled himself out of the running for BOTH vacancies is Glasgow Rangers boss Mark Warburton. Fulham and QPR are interested in luring the former Brentford chief back down south but he has shunned them so far. Former Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert and ex-Chelsea striker and current Burton chief Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink are among the hopefuls. That's just a red herring - Warnock is being lined up by Chelsea
A couple of weeks ago everyone in football (including Warnock himself) were saying that he did not want to go back to full time coaching/managing, he had moved on from where he was a few years ago, he no longer wanted to be on the touchline running around and shouting, he was older and had other things in his life in Cornwall.
So what should we believe? Probably nothing until all the clubs make their appointments and this latest bout of the managerial merry-go-round stops.
I do not want the club to rush into a decision we could all regret but on the other hand the sooner we get away from all this rumour and speculation the better it will be for the fans and the players.
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Post by Ashdown_Ranger on Nov 14, 2015 16:31:22 GMT
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Post by harr on Nov 14, 2015 16:46:29 GMT
Oh please No
Someone thats just managed 22 games before, dear oh dear.
Might aswell reappoint Ramsey again.
Please just get someone that knows what the Championship is all about.
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Post by Marc on Nov 15, 2015 18:21:16 GMT
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Post by alfaranger on Nov 15, 2015 19:33:22 GMT
Lambert to Blackburn. Steve Kean for us then!!
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Post by Macmoish on Nov 15, 2015 20:43:40 GMT
Lot of worse choices out there than Lambert. Let's hope we don't appoint one!
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