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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 7:48:30 GMT
Blackpool Gazette Holloway hails 'fantastic' Evatt - By Steve Canavan IAN Holloway has described Ian Evatt as "a wonderful lad" – though admits he made a mistake with him earlier in his management career. In his autobiography, Ollie, Holloway described an incident at QPR when he went on holiday for a week – and returned to find the chairman had signed Evatt for £150,000. The centre half, then at Chesterfield, had been on a list of possible targets but Holloway was angry that he had been brought in while he was away. But although it's a story which features in his book, published in 2007, Holloway says it doesn't mean there is any bad feeling between the pair. He says Evatt will almost certainly play a key part in his Blackpool team, though adds that the defender will of course have to earn the right to feature. "There are no problems between me and Ian – he is a fantastic lad," said Holloway. " He has done fantastically for Blackpool and I can't wait to work with him again. But Ian knows the way I am with players.
"What I said to Ian back in our days at QPR together was that it was a mistake for the chairman to run off and get him because he was on our list and we were going to talk about him.
"I said to the owner (Gianni Paladini) I'm going on holiday for a week, a little break. Two days later he's on the phone shouting that he's got Ian Evatt.
"I just thought 'what is going on?' We had signed him without even giving the player a medical and you can't run a football club like that.
"So I said to Ian 'hang on a minute this is what happened'.
"In hindsight, if I could go back, I wouldn't have told Ian that. He didn't need to know that.
"It was my frustration with the board and I didn't need to be that upfront with him.
"I think it affected the kid. But at the time the defence wasn't my top priority.
"I had Clarke Carlisle and Danny Shittu and what I was looking to do was buy a striker to add to the ones I already had. I think that QPR team would have done something if we had done that.
"So I wanted to get that right and unfortunately Ian was caught in that drama."
Holloway insists Evatt will be a big part of the team he intends to build at Bloomfield Road and he is even considering a style of play to suit the defender's game.
"My ideas on how to defend and where I'm going to draw my line now in the Championship are a lot different from what they were," added Holloway.
"I want us to go a few yards deeper and that suits big Ian. He can head it out and he can play there. I want to play football and he can do that.
"I think he will be excited by what I'm talking about, although he'll have to earn his right in the team like everyone else."For more from Ian Holloway, pick up a copy of Thursday's Gazette. www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sports-news/Holloway-hails-39fantastic39-Evatt.5310240.jp |
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Post by haqpr1963 on May 28, 2009 7:53:32 GMT
Paladini doing deals without the managers knowledge (i.e while they are away for a few days). Surely not! Does sound familiar thought thinking back a few weeks.....  |
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 7:59:28 GMT
"..."I just thought 'what is going on?' We had signed him without even giving the player a medical and you can't run a football club like that..."
(Although to be fair, I seem to recall the reports were a little bit different at the time.)
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Post by cpr on May 28, 2009 8:04:45 GMT
Paladini doing deals without the managers knowledge (i.e while they are away for a few days). Surely not! Does sound familiar thought thinking back a few weeks..... Sound familiar? Signed without a medical? Paladini wouldn't do that shirley!   |
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Post by cpr on May 28, 2009 8:08:55 GMT
Mind you though, all these managers that complain about a player being signed that they didn't ask for and didn't know about. Yet every single manager will take the job of another that contains a squad of players they didn't sign or know anything about and think they can make them better than the guy that signed them who did want them.
It is just a merry go round, they jump on and off at a whim and a fancy or simply beg to be allowed back on.......no strings obviously.
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 8:10:16 GMT
Clive Whittingham (then Rivals) - April 2006 Interview [Clive Whittingham] Speaking of thirty plus year olds looking for a pay day, I want to talk about Dean Sturridge, well I don't but I suppose we better discuss it. Did Dean Sturridge go through a medical examination before signing for the club? [Paladini] Well last season, at the time we were still in with a chance of making the play offs with a good run. Ian Holloway wanted Hayles from Millwall but we couldn't get him, so we had a report about Sturridge and Holloway was keen to get him signed up. I tried to do a deal with Wolves, you know their guy Moxey, to get him on loan until the end of the season, three months. This seemed fine but then at the last minute I got a call very early in the morning saying Dean wouldn't come on loan unless he got a deal for another year afterwards. I spoke to Jim Smith (Sturridge's manager at Derby) and he highly recommended against it. He said if we signed him for a year he'll waste our money. Jim says you need to keep Sturridge hungry. Holloway wanted him though, the transfer deadline was getting close so the pressure was on to get a deal done. We spoke to Wolves' medical people about him and they said we could put him right. There was nothing major wrong with him and we'd be able to sort him out. I took him to Italy and everywhere trying to get him fit, it was no good. [CW] So did he have a medical before he signed? [GP] No. www.clubfanzine.com/QPR/v2.showNews.php?id=7644 |
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 8:12:12 GMT
And from the same April 2006 Clive Whittingham interview with Paladini re Evatt signing One of the things I set out to do today was to finally clear up once and for all who paid what to who for the Ian Evatt transfer. Can you tell me now how much we paid to agents in that transfer? Yes, the confusion has come from a misunderstanding of something I said earlier this season. Ian Holloway wanted him, he had a big board, like a pin board, in his office with the names of players he wanted on there. The first player we went for was Andy Butler at Sc**thorpe but they were asking for silly money, a million pounds maybe something like that, so that was no good for us so we moved onto the second choice of Ian's which was Evatt. He was a player I knew from Derby County so there was the potential for a deal there. We went to meet with Evatt at the Belfry hotel in the Midlands but he turned up with a different agent to the one we were expecting - a younger lad who he knew from Derby. Now the problem with this was the new man wasn't a FIFA registered agent. I believe Ian [Evatt]s now in dispute with his old agent and this guy over who is owed what but anyway. We got conned a little bit with Evatt because people were always telling us everybody was interested in him, say four or five teams were after him so we decided to get off to Majorca and meet him on his holiday to get the deal done. In fairness Evatt was the best player at his old club, he won the player of the year award there and everything. So Bill Power, Mel Eves and me went to Majorca and met with Ian to get the deal signed. We took Mel with us because you know, deal with who you know and he knew the player as well, I told him we couldn't pay him very much and we agreed three thousand pounds for him and seven thousand pounds for Ian's agent which is ten thousand pounds. We then pay Ian's agent an amount for every season that Ian stays with the club. If Ian stays with us for the rest of his contract then we will have paid forty thousand pounds in total. If he leaves this summer, and he is on the list, then we won't pay any more than we have already which is ten thousand pounds. The payments to Ian's agent stop when he leaves. This is the same in most transfers, agents fees aren't paid in one lump sum straight away it's spread out in instalments. And after all that he's refused to pay any money to any agent. He's in dispute with them now, bummed them all out! In the latest issue of A Kick Up The R's Cos Ataliotis asks why it needs three agents (Evatt's, Mel Eves and yourself) to conclude a deal for a defender from League One outfit Chesterfield - why did it need three of you? Well as I say the agent Ian turned up with wasn't official. He wasn't FIFA registered. I had to give up my registration as an agent when I started work here at QPR so we needed a FIFA registered agent to come to Majorca with us and witness the transfer. You need a registered agent to witness the transfer so we took Mel because as I say you deal with the people you know best. Evatt has been disappointing. When I first saw him play in Ibiza I was very excited, very impressed. I thought 'fantastic, this boy is going to be a good signing.' But it seems he seems to have struggled with pace of the higher league and for one reason or another things haven't worked out. Between them, him and Doherty have cost us about seven hundred thousand pounds this season in transfer fees, wages, fees and everything and neither of them have worked out. www.clubfanzine.com/QPR/v2.showNews.php?id=7644 |
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Post by scottjones on May 28, 2009 11:31:57 GMT
bp's fault then  he was da boss |
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 11:34:57 GMT
Remind me who summoned Holloway to the Leeds game screaming "I'm going to kill you...I'm going to f***ing kill you?"
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Post by scottjones on May 28, 2009 12:08:38 GMT
Remind me who summoned Holloway to the Leeds game screaming "I'm going to kill you...I'm going to f***ing kill you?" was that bill as well? Come on mike, you cant blame everything on him ;D |
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 12:30:57 GMT
"Going to Kill you" was of course Mr. Paladini...
As for the respective roles of Gianni and BP - To imply Paladini's non-role in player signing even when BP was Chairman, would be dissimulating.
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Post by scottjones on May 28, 2009 17:16:48 GMT
But you agree that then chairman had a hands on role in this deal. Indeed, flew to majorca to do the deal, do you not, and probably had the final say? See not everything is GPs fault. |
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 17:41:27 GMT
I believe that was GP, BP and an additional agent... Mmmm Agents  |
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Post by scottjones on May 28, 2009 18:29:26 GMT
I believe that was GP, BP and an additional agent... Mmmm Agents so now your accusing bp of being in bed with agents and being as bad as gianni, indeed in complete cahoots with him? mike, mike, mike, and i thought he was your friend. I'm very surprised at you for highlighting this deal was done mel, gp and bp. shocking ;D |
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Post by bp on May 28, 2009 18:47:19 GMT
I believe that was GP, BP and an additional agent... Mmmm Agents so now your accusing bp of being in bed with agents and being as bad as gianni, indeed in complete cahoots with him? mike, mike, mike, and i thought he was your friend. I'm very surprised at you for highlighting this deal was done mel, gp and bp. shocking ;D Does it not prove that Report is not as blinkered as you seem to profess. I am very good friends with Gi and as I have already posted, will be having lunch with him next week. Have also told Gi that he would positively like Report if he met him because they both share the same passion for our club. Ian Evatt was a very good player who unfortunately got caught up in nonexistent politics. Found him to be an exceptionally nice lad and wish him nothing but the best. |
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Post by bp on May 28, 2009 19:03:00 GMT
I believe that was GP, BP and an additional agent... Mmmm Agents so now your accusing bp of being in bed with agents and being as bad as gianni, indeed in complete cahoots with him? mike, mike, mike, and i thought he was your friend. I'm very surprised at you for highlighting this deal was done mel, gp and bp. shocking ;D Oh and for what its worth dear old Ollie is being very selective with facts about Evo's signing. I outright asked him if he would be happy getting Evo and there was no word of not wanting him and bear in mind Evo was top of the 'wanted list' given that the striker he wanted was asking for more than twice as much as we were paying anyone else at the time. I have nothing but respect for him [Ollie] but and I have wished him well on his various moves [assuming the number I have is still his] but he should try dealing with someone like himself for 5 minutes.......!!!! Monday - 'I wouldn't mind player A' reply - He wants x and we can't afford that. Tues - 'not so sure about player A anyway but what about B' Reply - Yeh, Gi knows him we can speak Weds - 'actually what about player C' and on and on and on. Don't get me wrong, Ollie wanted players that he felt would improve us but no matter what we did it was never right. He is an old style manager that wanted to be in charge of everything but on occasions seemed to not take into account the economics of what we were dealing with. That was what caused most friction, no one disagreed with what we were trying to achieve as a club but we just didn't have a bottomless pit of money which was obviously frustrating to everyone. |
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Post by klr on May 28, 2009 19:16:35 GMT
Is it true that Ian Holloway wanted to sign Sylvain Ebanks-Blake for QPR ?
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Post by bp on May 28, 2009 19:28:49 GMT
that was after my time but i know he did want to sign him
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2009 22:25:35 GMT
To state the obvious: Very interesting re IH!
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Post by scottjones on May 29, 2009 7:18:47 GMT
Cheers bp.
As I'm sure you can tell I was only jesting xx
If you're about I'd be happy to buy you a pint if you fancy (actually, you can buy me one if you like x)
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Post by QPR Report on May 29, 2009 7:26:05 GMT
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Post by nico on May 29, 2009 22:39:15 GMT
Very fair and good reply, Bill - telling it how it is.
I agree about Mike and Gi - I am sure Mike will one day realise that GP was not the problem with QPR and certainly is not now
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Post by QPR Report on May 28, 2010 7:17:19 GMT
Since Gianni is talking about the Holloway era....
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