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Post by Macmoish on Sept 16, 2014 7:07:57 GMT
When you play Manchester United, you may be overawed - and you may not be as good as them individually. But at a minimum, should bust a gut - "The whole world is watching" This really is the pinacle of an English away fixture. As for Redknapp's tactics/strategy. If he does any deep thinking about how to deal with a team - it's not that apparent.
As for Green: I really like the guy/but thought he could have done more - especially first half.
Man Ut started the game with the pressure of a poor start. The trick was to get them feeling nervous..
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Post by alfaranger on Sept 16, 2014 7:57:06 GMT
We played a 'very poor' Manchester side and just didn't show enough to either win, draw or take an honourable defeat.! That seems to be the balance of the opinions that have been posted.
Man U, by their standards, could have been said to have been poor in the three opening PL games that they had. I would certainly agree - in fact I enjoyed it. There may have been a couple of events after those three games that have slipped peoples memories (or if your intent is just to bash Redknapp it's more convenient to leave awkward facts out). They bought a player who cost the same as the whole of our team, that just might have changed the dynamic somewhat. Not only that but they then went out and bought a whole lot more 'world class' players. Players we can only dream of.
Do you think they may have had just a slight impact and perhaps changed a 'very poor' Man U side into one a little bit better. Of course, it's plain to see that they are only human and the way to beat a side like that is to get into their faces and work hard and you'll always get a result - easy, so so easy. We can all see that's what you need to do - football managers are just so short sighted!
Our spirit was sh*t mind, total agreement there.
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Post by harr on Sept 16, 2014 8:59:17 GMT
Of course that was the first time they had all played together ?
When we put a few new players together we always hear it takes time to gel .
IMO its easier to gel as a team if you get loads of space and dont get shut down .
I guess if Man U stick four or more past Leicester we will wonder what all the fuss was about ?
Or maybe Leics roll there sleeves up get stuck in and get a draw or lose by a narrow margin ?
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Post by harr on Sept 21, 2014 14:04:04 GMT
Not sure that United back 4 is all that . Wouldnt be surprised if they drop some points at home this year to some lower teams . When they do I will bump this . To say we have unfit players is boring me . Islas was his third game . Same for Fer . Vargas I would understand but who else would he say is unfit ? Sandros I suppose for getting cramp , jeeze ! Taarabt didnt start so want him . Thought it might be the game to give him a few minutes playing time . Like I said in two posts last Sunday . Everyone said that United would tear everyone apart now. Wasnt convinced and Leics puttig three past them just cosolidates what I thought . We played them in there first game together too all be it we were away . Leaking goals like we are will need to be stopped if we want to stay up. |
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Post by harr on Sept 21, 2014 14:11:53 GMT
The Man Utd team we struggled to get a goal past now has let four in against Leicester .
Another bottom team getting something off a top team .
Bad result for us as is the Wba one . Another place we let four goals in against Spur s , yet a poor WBA team can get something maybe ?
This shows me how poor we have been
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Post by nomar on Sept 21, 2014 14:22:50 GMT
Funny what you can achieve with players who care and are prepared to give it a go.
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Post by luckycharms on Sept 21, 2014 14:47:16 GMT
This is where Fernandes's lack of football nous and leadership becomes very clear. The man should be calling Redknapp and telling him to watch the Leicester game and asking serious questions about why QPR are under-performing. For all his talk of staying with Harry even if it leads to another relegation, the reality is far different.
I've seen him tell off one of his CEOs on twitter since it seems the fool was blabbing about gaming rather than running one of Tune's subsidiaries, so why not be a boss and make it clear to Redknapp his remaining tenure is result and performance based. In all honesty, if QPR are in danger of relegation he will fire Redknapp because the stakes are too high - but if he keeps prevaricating and using the softy softy touch when he does have to make a decision the results will rushed and short-termist.
If he wants fan support for his 40k monstrosity of a stadium that will bring in him and partners untold billions in development money, he better make damn sure that the fans have something to look forward to on the field or eventually no-one will come and support for his projects will flag.
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Post by nomar on Sept 21, 2014 14:58:46 GMT
This is where Fernandes's lack of football nous and leadership becomes very clear. The man should be calling Redknapp and telling him to watch the Leicester game and asking serious questions about why QPR are under-performing. For all his talk of staying with Harry even if it leads to another relegation, the reality is far different. I've seen him tell off one of his CEOs on twitter since it seems the fool was blabbing about gaming rather than running one of Tune's subsidiaries, so why not be a boss and make it clear to Redknapp his remaining tenure is result and performance based. In all honesty, if QPR are in danger of relegation he will fire Redknapp because the stakes are too high - but if he keeps prevaricating and using the softy softy touch when he does have to make a decision the results will rushed and short-termist. If he wants fan support for his 40k monstrosity of a stadium that will bring in him and partners untold billions in development money, he better make damn sure that the fans have something to look forward to on the field or eventually no-one will come and support for his projects will flag.  He should be worried after watching Leicester take apart a team we p*ssed our pants in fear at the thought of playing. He should be very worried. |
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Post by harr on Sept 21, 2014 15:05:14 GMT
Probably sign a new contract tomorrow and as much as I love Tony , thought he had learnt his lessons ?
Really early in the season but those two results hurt us and showed me our inadequacies as I suspected after our result comparisons.
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Post by luckycharms on Sept 21, 2014 16:14:16 GMT
Oh agreed.
But the point I'm making is he went and acted like a responsible business leader berating an employee. Fernandes is refusing to act like a chairman when it comes to Redknapp. Same as Hughes. Hopefully not until it is too late.
My perspective is of Fernandes as a corporate and business leader, not necessarily as a football man. Tune and Air Asia ruffles feathers back home constantly. They are bold, overly ambitious, arrogant, expansive, risk-takers etc. Much like the man at the helm, Fernandes. Notice how brazen the current PR campaign for your new stadium is. He even went around door to door canvassing support. It may be flashy, it may be too direct, offending delicate English sensibilities - but that is his personality.
When I watch QPR that's not what I see. The team is defensive, timid, negative. Complete opposite. i don't agree with those who suggest that QPRFC is a mess and has no vision. It has one, rightly or wrongly the Chairman's. You may disagree with his razzamattaz, publicity hogging, aggressive approach, but at least it is clear cut. But on the footballing side, that is missing.
It doesn't feel like a team owned by Tony Fernandes the high flying media-savvy air tycoon. This is where I see his failing. He's failed as a corporate leader to stamp his vision on the football team. By which I don't mean he's micromanaging in terms of player selection, tactics and strategy. But in terms of inculcating his dare-devil, risk taking, bold approach to problems and never say die attitude. He is always positive in mind and thought, and never dwells on insurmountables, always looking for solutions. The QPR football team doesn't seem to reflect much of this.
I see Fernandes's vision for QPR and Redknapp's cautious vision of the team as being at odds. And until Fernandes makes it clear his vision overrides Harry's or Harry acknowledges this and takes steps to implement them, or until there is a parting of ways, then I doubt the fans will have much to enjoy for the rest of the season.
And if anyone thinks Fernandes is happy about grinding out boring 1-0 wins and draws, he's just tolerating it. It's all about building a brand that will be attractive to the mass public. Fernandes needs a winning team that plays attractive football to get the fans onside, to get overseas fans excited, to get the stadium development support and eventually some of that sweet billions in renewable development opportunities in the Greater London.
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Post by Macmoish on Sept 21, 2014 17:20:46 GMT
I certainly know Fernandes gets "tetchy" when he's queries on certain things - of point to things  ! But hey in many eyes he's "Uncle Tony" (which is what he called himself in reference to QPR) Bottom line: He comes across very pleasant - and in his fan forum/interviews But he's a businessman.... |
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