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Post by Macmoish on Jun 19, 2014 8:21:15 GMT
@spursofficial The Club can announce that #LesFerdinand and Chris Ramsey have left the Club - bit.ly/SVEfSfTottenham Club announcement Posted on 19 June 2014 - 09:00 The Club can announce that Les Ferdinand and Chris Ramsey have left the Club. Les returned to the Club in a coaching capacity in 2008, initially working with the strikers before linking up with Tim Sherwood and Chris Ramsey coordinating the Development Squad and most recently working with the First Team. As a player, Les scored 39 goals in 146 appearances in our colours between 1997 and 2003. Chris joined the Club in 2004, working within our Academy set-up, before running our Under-21 side and Development Squad in conjunction with Tim and Les, stepping up to a First Team coaching role in December. We should like to thank them for their contribution and wish them well for the future. www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-announcement-190614/
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Post by kenthoop on Jun 19, 2014 8:55:05 GMT
Love to see him back at LR on the coaching staff ,a QPR legend ,one of my favourite players ,come on Harry sign him up
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Post by wrenboy61 on Jun 19, 2014 9:51:28 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him turn up down the Rangers. I think Harry gave him his start in coaching? Would love to see him back but also feel he could go wherever Sherwood ends up.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jun 19, 2014 10:11:02 GMT
Is he a good coach?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 19, 2014 11:39:09 GMT
That is the important question. If he achieved resu.ts at spuds, take him on to deal with the strikers and move Hill to coach the defence.
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 19, 2014 11:50:26 GMT
I don't believe just any former QPR Player who was a striker or a defender (no matter how great) thus should become a QPR Coach. (Albeit it's a great addition_
BUT, given that Les Ferdinand was coaching at Tottenham for several years, presumably, he must have been good enough to have justified being a coach
So yes: Bring him in
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Post by alfaranger on Jun 19, 2014 12:02:40 GMT
Ferdinand joined Spurs as coach in 2008 so has been through a few management regimes. It seems that it's the trend to have management 'teams' join clubs so when the fans are happy with a manger the often shadowy team of coaches lurks in the background, what are they like. WBA refused Sherwoods demand that his management 'team' follow him and thus didn't employ him. The 'team' of course may not have been available had they stayed on for the new manager but he bought his own team with him, so they're out before the new manager has even had a look at them.
Harry has worked with him before and Sir Les knows QPR so it's not completely out of the question. I liked TAFKAL's idea that he and Clint could work together.
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Post by paulmason on Jun 19, 2014 12:23:27 GMT
I cant see this happening as Ferdinand is part of Tim's team and his future is wherever Tim Sherwood is manager next. He will have a job for years to come as part of TS back room team, but could be out of a job at W12 if HR quits in a year or two and someone else wants to bring in his own team.
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Post by Marc on Jun 19, 2014 12:57:30 GMT
I cant see this happening as Ferdinand is part of Tim's team and his future is wherever Tim Sherwood is manager next. He will have a job for years to come as part of TS back room team, but could be out of a job at W12 if HR quits in a year or two and someone else wants to bring in his own team. He was part of Sherwood's team for less than a season but part of Redknapp's for 4 years, I wouldn't say that he's particularly tied to Sherwood.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jun 19, 2014 13:15:36 GMT
Would absolutely love to see him in the coaching staff at QPR!!
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Post by paulmason on Jun 19, 2014 13:36:50 GMT
I cant see this happening as Ferdinand is part of Tim's team and his future is wherever Tim Sherwood is manager next. He will have a job for years to come as part of TS back room team, but could be out of a job at W12 if HR quits in a year or two and someone else wants to bring in his own team. He was part of Sherwood's team for less than a season but part of Redknapp's for 4 years, I wouldn't say that he's particularly tied to Sherwood. I agree.... but its been reported and Sherwood has hinted himself that the reason he did not take the WBA job, was because WBA did not want Sir Les and someone else to come with him, as part of his back room team. I would say that Les would not now jump ship to QPR after this and I can see him being Sherwood's assistant manager going forward.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jun 19, 2014 14:37:41 GMT
Also Clive allen was a coach there along with Les, i dont see anybody rushing in to sign either up to their coaching teams. Great players, but coaches....don't know..........jobs for the boys?
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Post by alfaranger on Jun 19, 2014 15:32:23 GMT
Also Clive allen was a coach there along with Les, i dont see anybody rushing in to sign either up to their coaching teams. Great players, but coaches....don't know..........jobs for the boys? Could be, there's plenty of that - it could also be that managers take their retinue with them wherever they go and at the moment there is no place for them. If they were to come here I expect they would have to get rid of them that Harry bought with him.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jun 19, 2014 18:18:25 GMT
Exclusive – Les Ferdinand slams FA over inaccessible coaching courses By Anton Stanley (@antonstanley) | Saturday, June 8, 2013 Les Ferdinand has told talkSPORT how he had to take his pro-licence with the Welsh FA because of the obstacles the English governing body put in his way. In a week where English football has again been criticised after the disappointing performance by their Under 21s, Ferdinand has revealed that many ex-players are turning their backs on football because of the FA's elongated and long winded process. Former England international Ferdinand, who is a full time coach at Premier League side Tottenham, was made to wait two years to start his pro-licence, as the FA tried to block him and Spurs colleague Tim Sherwood from completing their badges in Wales. Ferdinand had invited the FA to observe his sessions at Spurs, but they insisted he attend a 10 day residential course, which was difficult to undertake with his full-time position. With such an outcry for coaches and a need for player development, such revelations shine another light on the problems England will face going forward. Ferdinand said: “We need to make it accessible for coaches. I’ve been trying to do my badges for a long time and I’ve had a lot of problems with the FA trying to do that. “Sometimes you wonder whether the FA want bright new coaches to come into the game and improve the football. “I’m talking to a lot of ex-footballers and they’re finding a lot of obstacles in their way. Barriers have been put up, finicky little things. “It’s not about finicky little things it’s about people wanting to coach and being given the ability to coach. “We’ve not got enough coaches in this country and it’s not because people don’t want to do their coaching badges. People are a little bit fed up with the process and it’s an expensive process to fail. “We should be doing more to encourage people to get into that system and we should be helping players who have come out of the game back into coaching.” The cost of the licenses has also come under the microscope with the cost of a pro-licence course now in excess of £13,000 and the A license £2,000. And another former Premier League player confirmed Ferdinand's frustrations. "The boys are desperate to get on the courses in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales,” the ex-international said "The goalkeepers are the worst, they are made to complete a full outfield A license before they can even get on the goalkeeping coaches course." "And what normal guy has £13,000 to pay for a pro-licence?" It's no wonder then that, in comparison to other European nations, England have so few qualified coaches. Currently Germany has around 35,000 UEFA A, B and pro-licence coaches, Italy 30,000, Spain have 25,000 while England have less than 6,000. English football has produced a number of talented players, but they have consistently fallen short at major tournaments... Maybe we are starting to understand why. Read more at talksport.com/sports-news/football/130608/exclusive-%E2%80%93-les-ferdinand-slams-fa-over-inaccessible-coaching-courses-199262#4rOyc2u8ojuvuUQm.99
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Post by scarletpimple on Jun 19, 2014 18:19:59 GMT
Poster on dot org, Nodge who i think has posted on here in the past, and has good knowledge on spurs, and does not rate Les as a coach make of that what you will.
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Post by Marc on Jun 19, 2014 18:46:05 GMT
He was part of Sherwood's team for less than a season but part of Redknapp's for 4 years, I wouldn't say that he's particularly tied to Sherwood. I agree.... but its been reported and Sherwood has hinted himself that the reason he did not take the WBA job, was because WBA did not want Sir Les and someone else to come with him, as part of his back room team. I would say that Les would not now jump ship to QPR after this and I can see him being Sherwood's assistant manager going forward. Maybe, maybe not. Just because Sherwood wouldn't take a job without him, doesn't necessarily mean he won't take a job without Sherwood.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 19, 2014 20:41:54 GMT
13k for a pro licence. I am sure the 100k+ p/w pros of today would really struggle to come up with that.
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Post by Macmoish on Jun 19, 2014 22:24:39 GMT
But some of them - lower leagues - are not nearly that well paid.
And the irony that some of the best coaches and managers come from not the best players - Lower divisions players. So shooting football in the foot
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Post by Lonegunmen on Jun 19, 2014 22:52:25 GMT
Only in England can you do this. The Pink Gin brigade rule once more. Trevor Brooking should know better.
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Post by alfaranger on Jun 20, 2014 11:01:48 GMT
Exclusive – Les Ferdinand slams FA over inaccessible coaching courses By Anton Stanley (@antonstanley) | Saturday, June 8, 2013 Les Ferdinand has told talkSPORT how he had to take his pro-licence with the Welsh FA because of the obstacles the English governing body put in his way. In a week where English football has again been criticised after the disappointing performance by their Under 21s, Ferdinand has revealed that many ex-players are turning their backs on football because of the FA's elongated and long winded process. Former England international Ferdinand, who is a full time coach at Premier League side Tottenham, was made to wait two years to start his pro-licence, as the FA tried to block him and Spurs colleague Tim Sherwood from completing their badges in Wales. Ferdinand had invited the FA to observe his sessions at Spurs, but they insisted he attend a 10 day residential course, which was difficult to undertake with his full-time position. With such an outcry for coaches and a need for player development, such revelations shine another light on the problems England will face going forward. Ferdinand said: “We need to make it accessible for coaches. I’ve been trying to do my badges for a long time and I’ve had a lot of problems with the FA trying to do that. “Sometimes you wonder whether the FA want bright new coaches to come into the game and improve the football. “I’m talking to a lot of ex-footballers and they’re finding a lot of obstacles in their way. Barriers have been put up, finicky little things. “It’s not about finicky little things it’s about people wanting to coach and being given the ability to coach. “We’ve not got enough coaches in this country and it’s not because people don’t want to do their coaching badges. People are a little bit fed up with the process and it’s an expensive process to fail. “We should be doing more to encourage people to get into that system and we should be helping players who have come out of the game back into coaching.” The cost of the licenses has also come under the microscope with the cost of a pro-licence course now in excess of £13,000 and the A license £2,000. And another former Premier League player confirmed Ferdinand's frustrations. "The boys are desperate to get on the courses in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales,” the ex-international said "The goalkeepers are the worst, they are made to complete a full outfield A license before they can even get on the goalkeeping coaches course." "And what normal guy has £13,000 to pay for a pro-licence?" It's no wonder then that, in comparison to other European nations, England have so few qualified coaches. Currently Germany has around 35,000 UEFA A, B and pro-licence coaches, Italy 30,000, Spain have 25,000 while England have less than 6,000. English football has produced a number of talented players, but they have consistently fallen short at major tournaments... Maybe we are starting to understand why. Read more at talksport.com/sports-news/football/130608/exclusive-%E2%80%93-les-ferdinand-slams-fa-over-inaccessible-coaching-courses-199262#4rOyc2u8ojuvuUQm.99I might be wrong here but I think Les is being a little curmudgeonly here. The UEFA licence prospectus is set by UEFA, it contains a 2 week 'residential'. Is he saying that Spurs wouldn't let him have the time off to further his training which would benefit the club as well, perhaps they wouldn't. He reads as if it was a deliberate act by the FA to obstruct him from getting on a course. The FA seem to be full of strange people making strange decisions so I wouldn't necessarily put it past them, but I'd like to know more, for instance, what finicky things put in his path.
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Post by Macmoish on Feb 7, 2015 9:20:25 GMT
Bump - just over 7 months ago And what Redknapp said at time he joined QPR Oct 17, 2014 at 5:57pm Dave McIntyre/West London Sport www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/les-ferdinand-was-given-a-stupid-title-by-qpr-says-redknappLes Ferdinand was given a “stupid title” by QPR, says Redknapp There has been speculation about Redknapp's future at QPR 17/10/2014 By David McIntyre Under-pressure manager Harry Redknapp has said that Les Ferdinand was given a “stupid title” by QPR chairman Tony Fernandes. Aware of the former R’s and England striker’s popularity among fans, Fernandes had been looking to bring Ferdinand back to Loftus Road for some time before recently announcing him as the club’s head of football operations. Redknapp, who previously gave Ferdinand a coaching role at Tottenham, publicly welcomed the move but there have been tensions behind the scenes. “Listen, I love Les – I get on great with Les. I’ve got a lot of time for Les,” Redknapp said when asked about Ferdinand’s role. “He’s just looking at the youth set-up and everything else. Tony wanted to bring him in. He’s an iconic figure at the club. “He was a great player here and I think Tony thought he’d be good to have. I don’t know, I think he’s just looking at scouting and all that type of stuff. “I knew he was coming in. The chairman asked me what I thought about Les and I said ‘I love him, he’s a great lad’.” Redknapp then added: “That’s where we are at the moment. Who knows where we’re going to be next week.” Redknapp’s position is under scrutiny following Rangers’ dismal start to life back in the Premier League. The club are bottom of the table and former Spurs manager Tim Sherwood, who was also part of Redknapp’s backroom team at White Hart Lane, has been discussed as a possible replacement for the 67-year-old if results do not improve. qprreport.proboards.com/thread/40230/ferdinand-given-stupid-title-redknapp#ixzz3R39Ur1qq
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