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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 1:22:42 GMT
did he know about the "gun incident", did things go too far? What does he think about his drinking buddy mr morris associating with guys that carry replica guns and envelopes stuffed with money?
Discuss?
[QPR Report Edit: You can certainly ask questions. Although I seem to remember you having at least one heated debate with BP on another Board on this subject I think. But I'm changing the title - Just as would if the questions were about Paladini. ]
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 1:23:43 GMT
All above are factual based upon Her Majestys Courts, to clarify my stance,
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 2, 2009 1:50:02 GMT
I look after Murders, Rapists and Fraudsters, does that mean i am one too? Just because I know them through my Job. Even if Bill did know (allegedly) of Mr Morris's aquantences, is it linking him to them? I think not. We all know someone in this world who's a bit dodgy. I mean you can class Politicians as the biggest bunch of theives and liars around - and you'd probably be right, but it does not mean that you participate in their lifestyle.
I know what you are saying Scott, but that trial also proved other things too, that allegedly Mr Paladini may or may not be a man of angelic integrity
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 2:11:56 GMT
Pretty tacky to do this today, Scott. Pretty tacky. And opening Pandora's box is not always such a great idea. If you look at the trial record - [Not complete/not a transcript, but Tracy Stent's trial report can be read at www.alfretontownfc.com/qprcourttrial.pdf ] at which all the accused were Acquitted. So whatever you may think, they're all found innocent. Your Mr. Paladini had quite a number of questions raised about a large number of his statements And certainly BP Never corrupted and divided the fans - nor did he draw a QPR salary.]
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Post by bp on May 2, 2009 6:50:25 GMT
did he know about the "gun incident", did things go too far? What does he think about his drinking buddy mr morris associating with guys that carry replica guns and envelopes stuffed with money? Discuss? No, I did not know. I have never met those accused before and have no idea what you are talking about when you ask about envelopes of money. Morris is no drinking buddy of mine. Yes my regular monthly visit to my GP yesterday morning was its normal disaster but she was pleased to know my bowels are fine. Is there anything else you would like to know?
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Post by weavie on May 2, 2009 7:16:40 GMT
can you leave bill alone hes just been done up like a kipper by some dirty skunks and lost a million pound bill put money into qpr and kept the club alive there would be no qpr if it wasnt for bill
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Post by cpr on May 2, 2009 7:23:05 GMT
There are plenty of places for contentious threads such as this and I don't think this is one of them.
Too much wine (whine) Scott or what?
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Post by Markqpr on May 2, 2009 7:46:17 GMT
did he know about the "gun incident", did things go too far? What does he think about his drinking buddy mr morris associating with guys that carry replica guns and envelopes stuffed with money? Discuss? [QPR Report Edit: You can certainly ask questions. Although I seem to remember you having at least one heated debate with BP on another Board on this subject I think. But I'm changing the title - Just as would if the questions were about Paladini. ] Jones - Are you seriously going to come onto this board and try and start a contentious thread with such childish questions. Is it an effort to cause a little bit of controversy or is it more of a case of you assuming the role of Mr. Super Supporter who knows all but can't say because your trusted/used by at least one person at the club whose implied some little bit of supposedly true information to you and that has left you feeling superior. And because you can't keep it to yourself you start another thread to imply that you have more knowledge than anyone else in the guise of a 'crusade for the truth'. That might work elsewhere but here you just look like a self-serving, ignorant, stupid and childish little man. Based on the facts of the case, to which you refer, I will answer the questions for you: 1. No. If he did he would have been in the dock as a co-defendant. Bit obvious that. 2. No. It never happened according to the verdict (that's what not guilty means - they did not do what they were accused of.) 3. To assert that he is a close friend of the main protagonist when that is not true is an attempt at a smear. Pointless and pathetic - sums up the thread really. Would you like to discuss why this matter is so important to you. I do not understand why you would try to smear someone through implication. If you have any new facts that have led you to post this thread please share. If you want to make a comment about Mr. Power, be a man and make it, don't put up old stories with your twist on them and offer them up for discussion as if they are fact. That won't wash here and only serves to make you look like a silly little boy. As if this is important or even relevant to what is going on at the club, right now. Why bring it up?
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Post by Lonegunmen on May 2, 2009 8:17:33 GMT
As if Bill hasn't been thru enough, losing his place on our board, the plane crash and now the Swindon case. They say bad things happen in 3's I sure hope it is the end of his. BP over GP or FB any day for me.
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Post by superckat on May 2, 2009 13:16:31 GMT
Scott, what is the point of this and why now. You have come on here made your statement and said discuss. Well you've had several replys, one from BP himself. Yet you've not responded. What's going on?
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Post by weavie on May 2, 2009 13:43:18 GMT
totally disgracefull behaviour to put bill through more stress
SCOTT JONES I KNOW YOU AS A MAN THAT LOVES QPR AND YOUR QPR THROUGH AND THROUGH but really you should apologise to bill,i know scott you didnt mean to come over as being rude so just explain to bill that you certainly didnt mean to be offensive so far on this site weve yet to have a full out so lets keep the happy ethos going
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 14:59:20 GMT
did he know about the "gun incident", did things go too far? What does he think about his drinking buddy mr morris associating with guys that carry replica guns and envelopes stuffed with money? Discuss? No, I did not know. I have never met those accused before and have no idea what you are talking about when you ask about envelopes of money. Morris is no drinking buddy of mine. Yes my regular monthly visit to my GP yesterday morning was its normal disaster but she was pleased to know my bowels are fine. Is there anything else you would like to know? Just confused Bill as Paul Finney posted on his board that he went for beers with you and Morris during the trial.Is he telling lies???
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 15:03:53 GMT
did he know about the "gun incident", did things go too far? What does he think about his drinking buddy mr morris associating with guys that carry replica guns and envelopes stuffed with money? Discuss? No, I did not know. I have never met those accused before and have no idea what you are talking about when you ask about envelopes of money. Morris is no drinking buddy of mine. Yes my regular monthly visit to my GP yesterday morning was its normal disaster but she was pleased to know my bowels are fine. Is there anything else you would like to know? and i was referring to the cash found to jog your memory. Just to clarify, once again. You NEVER went for beers with Paul Finney, others and Dave Morris during the trial? A simple yes (and apology) will do, or a simple no (thus confirming finney is telling porkies) will do. Cheers in advance
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 17:20:19 GMT
You have to acknowledge a certain chutzpah, here, Scott. DEMANDING that our former Chairman Respond further to your questions. When QPR have another former Chairman, who has never responded to a myriad of statements he made, which in hindsight were really not as accurate as they could have been!
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 18:15:41 GMT
You have to acknowledge a certain chutzpah, here, Scott. DEMANDING that our former Chairman Respond further to your questions. When QPR have another former Chairman, who has never responded to a myriad of statements he made, which in hindsight were really not as accurate as they could have been! GP doesnt post on here, bp does, just want clarification? If none comes forward then i'll take bps word. Which would mean finney is telling lies and bp is confirming that situation/calling finney a liar. Albeit i'm still confused that bp is saying he never knew morris before the trial? i thought he was chairman of QPR!
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 18:37:22 GMT
If only those Paladini files contained tapes of my secret meetings with BP and Devlin or whomever
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 18:38:08 GMT
The more I think of this the more i think paul finney has to retract his allegation. I would think the authorities may look into a re-trial based on what he has said.....a key witness for the prosecution out with one of the accused...
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 18:41:28 GMT
The more I think of this the more i think paul finney has to retract his allegation. I would think the authorities may look into a re-trial based on what he has said.....a key witness for the prosecution out with one of the accused... You're on quite a little spin - I know you have a problem with Finney. And he with you. Shame you have to continue dragging BP in on this Nico is "probably" more knowledgeable than me about the law. But I would say that you don't get to do re-trials after you have an aquittal. Morris has had his trial and is innocent. Now if you spent 1/10 as much effort "pursuing" Paladini based on what he said, we'd probably get some fascinating revelations.. Or any other QPR Directors?! Anyway I see you're also asking on WATRB. So www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11893
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 18:47:14 GMT
I'm waiting for b "qpr man" p to respond.
Always the chance of a civil case i would presume.......
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Post by cpr on May 2, 2009 18:51:09 GMT
Go and take it somewhere else scott please.
It's not what this site is about. All you'll do is drive BP off here, which none of us want.
Take it back to your site as it is obvious your questions are simply aimed at stirring it with someone.
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 18:52:34 GMT
Go and take it somewhere else scott please. It's not what this site is about. All you'll do is drive BP off here, which none of us want. Take it back to your site as it is obvious your questions are simply aimed at stirring it with someone. this is the only site bp posts on fella. i'm sure he's very annoyed that someone has accused him of drinking with dave morris at the time of the trial. if anyone is looking into a civil case to get morris convicted i'm sure bp doesnt want to be involved. im helping him its what i do
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 18:52:39 GMT
Well as I said: Demanding BP respond...But never demanding GP respond is a little bizarre. I have an idea: BP's son reads/comments on the WATRB site... And supposedly GP's daughter reads the WATRB site... So pose some questions on WATRB to both BP and Paladini And I'd have to say Kudos to IsleworthRanger for his responses.
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Post by cpr on May 2, 2009 18:56:57 GMT
Go and take it somewhere else scott please. It's not what this site is about. All you'll do is drive BP off here, which none of us want. Take it back to your site as it is obvious your questions are simply aimed at stirring it with someone. this is the only site bp posts on fella. i'm sure he's very annoyed that someone has accused him of drinking with dave morris at the time of the trial. if anyone is looking into a civil case to get morris convicted i'm sure bp doesnt want to be involved. im helping him its what i do Read what I posted "fella" You're helping no one, you're being a pain. We'd like BP to keep posting here which he won't if you're pissing him off all the time. I don't tihnk he needs your "help" either.
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 18:59:27 GMT
this is the only site bp posts on fella. i'm sure he's very annoyed that someone has accused him of drinking with dave morris at the time of the trial. if anyone is looking into a civil case to get morris convicted i'm sure bp doesnt want to be involved. im helping him its what i do Read what I posted "fella" You're helping no one, you're being a pain. We'd like BP to keep posting here which he won't if you're pissing him off all the time. I don't tihnk he needs your "help" either. What if the CPS got it wrong? If they did and he is accused of cohorting with the accused..well... anyway, lets leave it there and wait for him to respond shall we??? As I'm sure he will
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Post by cpr on May 2, 2009 19:02:42 GMT
What if the CPS got it wrong?
That would be a first eh!
Do we care?
If I was mod I'd delete this thread, iy doesn't fit with the nature of this site.
In my humble opinion.
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 19:06:31 GMT
And what if it never happend in which case....! But it would be good if you could start with getting you facts right about new trials after a verdict is given. But it's clear (well wel all know) you have a problem with Finney. And you see an opportunity to go after him, using BP. There have been board postings between you and him and your various claims. And given BP's health; Given his latest blow from the court in Swindon. And given that BP has never "gone after" either you, or Paladini, despite "The Coup" - I'd say enough. If BP wants to comment on any of your comments. He will. If he doesn't want to, He won't. And "harassing/berating" him aint going to change anything. In case anyone's forgotten, I'm reposting a link to the "Founding Document" of this site qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=8\The FOCUS OF THIS NEW MESSAGEBOARD The intended focus of the QPR Report Messageboard is QPR matters, on and off the field.. Playing, mangerial, boardoom matters, nostalgia etc, as well as generic Football ("soccer") matters of general interest. There is not an "official" QPR Report Messageboard perspective on how to view QPR matters. Both critics and skeptics and defenders and boosters are equally welcome. People are not going to get banned for having different viewpoints from that of myself. They will get banned for nastiness towards other posters or for character assassination. What This Board Does Not Want to Focus on: - Don't want ad-hominem attacks on other posters, or attacks on other messageboards. Really want people to be able, as the cliche goes, to "Disagree without being disagreeable." Tolerance of other perseptives and viewpoints. - While not into "PC," racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, etc - even in jest - is not permitted and won't be tolerated. - Not interested in this being a moderator-driven messageboards, or posting topics just to build up readership, or posting popularity. If there's something to talk about, that's great. If it's quiet, so be it. - If you want to post links from other message boards re subjects of QPR or football-in-general interest; feel free. If the information is of interest, QPR fans here should be interested. - Not Interested in Posts on non-Football Matters - Concerts and rock bands and films, etc, - "Babes of the Day" - Jokes - How to spend time at work or on weekends or parties - Not about World Events/Crises/Tragedies and politics - - Not about messageboard cliques and Friendships and animosities. Sorry: No Prizes/cash awards given on this site! Conclusion In summation: The role model for my messageboard are those sites which offer people a board, for those interested ; who post when they deem fit, and then leave to others to use and post on topics of their choosing. The "Granddaddy" of this approach would of course, be "Battletank" who founded the QPR.org more than a decade ago, and for many years that was "THE" site for QPR fans to go to. So welcome and hopefully you'll enjoy reading and posting! And if you don't, the news blog will always be available for you!
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Post by scottjones on May 2, 2009 19:08:26 GMT
Fine by me.
I'm sure bp will respond.
It's a serious allegation.
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Post by QPR Report on May 2, 2009 19:11:10 GMT
Whatever! You can call it a "Serious Allegation." You can call it whatever you want.
I've seen many many "serious allegations" about various, which never seems to have bothered you!
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Post by bp on May 2, 2009 19:14:34 GMT
No, I did not know. I have never met those accused before and have no idea what you are talking about when you ask about envelopes of money. Morris is no drinking buddy of mine. Yes my regular monthly visit to my GP yesterday morning was its normal disaster but she was pleased to know my bowels are fine. Is there anything else you would like to know? and i was referring to the cash found to jog your memory. Just to clarify, once again. You NEVER went for beers with Paul Finney, others and Dave Morris during the trial? A simple yes (and apology) will do, or a simple no (thus confirming finney is telling porkies) will do. Cheers in advance Sorry Scott, YES I did know David Morris who drove myself and Gianni to virtually every game in 2004/5 season. You still baffle me about cash found? Yes I have drunk with David Morris who lives approx 1 mile from me. No I did not drink with David Morris to my recollection during the trial. Yes Paul has been to my local when David Morris was there along with many other loyal QPR men. David Morris is no friend of mine. Is that clear enough for you? Would you like to know about my leanings of a sexual nature? No I do not have piles. No, never had a STD. My mum is an Irish catholic and so by default then am I. I got divorced in 1999 from the woman who is the mother of the 2 most beautiful lads in my world and the woman who still remains the best friend I have on this planet. I hope that is enough to satisfy your inexplicable postings. I was a witness for the prosecution at the trial, not David Morris. But please, if you want, carry on and be explicit about what you would like to know. As I think I may have strayed mentioning not having piles and my mum.
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Post by Markqpr on May 2, 2009 19:14:54 GMT
I do not want scottjones to be a moderator on this site. I put forward a motion to have a poll on the matter, the result of which will decide whether or not he remains a moderator.
My main reason being a moderator is a person who controls the messages so that none containing anything not in keeping with the site ethos remains in view. I take the ethos of this site to be intelligent debate over thought or fact and do not feel that scottjones is in anyway fit to moderate me in this fashion. A moderator has power as well and with power comes responsibility and trust. Need I go on?
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