Well played today lads

[Deleted]

I would just like to say that I thought it was a great performance today with a average midfield at best.
Yes we didn't score but that's football.
Rather than picking out individual players and slagging them off they should be praised as a team.
Bothroyd was probably better than Rooney was at Newcastle for Man Utd last game and we were a better team than Man Utd were at Newcastle.
We carry on playing like this and bring in the players we need we will be fine.
Bring on Mk and Wigan.

[klr]

Jan 15, 2012 18:20:45 GMT @andrewqpr said:

I would just like to say that I thought it was a great performance today with a average midfield at best.
Yes we didn't score but that's football.
Rather than picking out individual players and slagging them off they should be praised as a team.
Bothroyd was probably better than Rooney was at Newcastle for Man Utd last game and we were a better team than Man Utd were at Newcastle.
We carry on playing like this and bring in the players we need we will be fine.
Bring on Mk and Wigan.

Don't agree with any of that.

Today was a relegation performance & no mistaking.

Newcastle played worse than us & won the match, if that doesnt spell out relegation performance then I dont know what does.

[hitman34]

Jan 15, 2012 18:20:45 GMT @andrewqpr said:

I would just like to say that I thought it was a great performance today with a average midfield at best.
Yes we didn't score but that's football.
Rather than picking out individual players and slagging them off they should be praised as a team.
Bothroyd was probably better than Rooney was at Newcastle for Man Utd last game and we were a better team than Man Utd were at Newcastle.
We carry on playing like this and bring in the players we need we will be fine.
Bring on Mk and Wigan.

here here

[RoryTheRanger]

I don't think it was as bad as some think.

[scarletpimple]

Thought we looked solid and newcastle had one!!! shot on target.

They seemed to target hill for a lot of the game and he did struggle a bit but kept trying.

Our central midfield was our main weakness, derry not up with the pace a lot of times and arkos not in the game for long spells.

[Marc]

Jan 15, 2012 18:23:24 GMT @klr said:

Jan 15, 2012 18:20:45 GMT @andrewqpr said:

I would just like to say that I thought it was a great performance today with a average midfield at best.
Yes we didn't score but that's football.
Rather than picking out individual players and slagging them off they should be praised as a team.
Bothroyd was probably better than Rooney was at Newcastle for Man Utd last game and we were a better team than Man Utd were at Newcastle.
We carry on playing like this and bring in the players we need we will be fine.
Bring on Mk and Wigan.

Don't agree with any of that.

Today was a relegation performance & no mistaking.

Newcastle played worse than us & won the match, if that doesnt spell out relegation performance then I dont know what does.

Relegation performance? Teams bound for relegation don't create anywhere near as many chances as we did today. MH has already said that they haven't had a chance to work on the attacking side and given that we had a third of our first choice team out I think they did bloody well.

We had poor luck once again, that's for sure but how someone can say being the better team is a relegation performance is beyond me!

[klr]

Jan 15, 2012 19:20:24 GMT Marc said:

Jan 15, 2012 18:23:24 GMT @klr said:

Don't agree with any of that.

Today was a relegation performance & no mistaking.

Newcastle played worse than us & won the match, if that doesnt spell out relegation performance then I dont know what does.

Relegation performance? Teams bound for relegation don't create anywhere near as many chances as we did today. MH has already said that they haven't had a chance to work on the attacking side and given that we had a third of our first choice team out I think they did bloody well.

We had poor luck once again, that's for sure but how someone can say being the better team is a relegation performance is beyond me!

How many points did we get for this fantastic performance today ?

How many points did Newcastle get for their abysmal showing today ?

[Marc]

Jan 15, 2012 19:26:22 GMT @klr said:

Jan 15, 2012 19:20:24 GMT Marc said:

Relegation performance? Teams bound for relegation don't create anywhere near as many chances as we did today. MH has already said that they haven't had a chance to work on the attacking side and given that we had a third of our first choice team out I think they did bloody well.

We had poor luck once again, that's for sure but how someone can say being the better team is a relegation performance is beyond me!

How many points did we get for this fantastic performance today ?

How many points did Newcastle get for their abysmal showing today ?

What have the points got to do with anything? We're talking about the performance here. Teams player better than the opposition and lose every week, doesn't make there's a relegation performance.

We're in the position we are because we haven't played anywhere near as well as we did today. If we can keep it up and add the new players, as MH will do, then we'll stay up.

[schuter82]

Agreed, lots to be done to improve, but it was a start. Considering we had a champo midfield I thought we did well enough. The back 4 looked tighter and mire organized than we've seen in months. Something to build on.

[harbo]

I thought we were average at best against a lacklustre Newcastle side who themselves had their 2 best players missing. When you say we created chances, the only clear cut one we had was Jay Bothroyd's in the 2nd half where his shot was saved at the near post. There rest of our shots were long speculative efforts.
We played a lot better when we played Newcastle last, and if I remember correctly our manager was a certain Neil Warnock. That was not an improvement, and will Hughes get slated for playing SWP out of position like NW did? Things have to improve and improve quickly, I'm ok if we lose but 2nd half especially there was a lack of effort and quality. Hill and Derry are finished, I lost count the amount of times Hill gave the ball away.

[Sabas]

Jan 15, 2012 19:32:50 GMT Marc said:

Jan 15, 2012 19:26:22 GMT @klr said:

How many points did we get for this fantastic performance today ?

How many points did Newcastle get for their abysmal showing today ?

What have the points got to do with anything? We're talking about the performance here. Teams player better than the opposition and lose every week, doesn't make there's a relegation performance.

We're in the position we are because we haven't played anywhere near as well as we did today. If we can keep it up and add the new players, as MH will do, then we'll stay up.

Better? Hmm. I would say we weren't worse. Our chances were mostly accidental and most shots on target - threatless.

I guess what Klr is trying to say is that we played like we're doomed.

[Jon Doeman]

A good positive post Andy, no points for effort though eh.
Anyone else feel lady luck has deserted us?
And watching Swansea after, just put the cherry on it!

[Sabas]

Jan 15, 2012 19:51:05 GMT harbo said:

I thought we were average at best against a lacklustre Newcastle side who themselves had their 2 best players missing. When you say we created chances, the only clear cut one we had was Jay Bothroyd's in the 2nd half where his shot was saved at the near post. There rest of our shots were long speculative efforts.
We played a lot better when we played Newcastle last, and if I remember correctly our manager was a certain Neil Warnock. That was not an improvement, and will Hughes get slated for playing SWP out of position like NW did? Things have to improve and improve quickly, I'm ok if we lose but 2nd half especially there was a lack of effort and quality. Hill and Derry are finished, I lost count the amount of times Hill gave the ball away.

Agree on the performance and 'chances'. By the end we were finished and couldnt scrape an attack, reach the forwards and simply control the ball. Hughes could've thrown in a white towel by that point...

We were awesome at home against them. So was SWP...

[terryb]

I thought that today summed up our season. Like a lot of other games we have looked the better side for periods of the games but suffer from the following:-

1) No matter how the defence plays (& today I thought they looked good as a unit) you just know that we will concede at some point of the match. Though it can't help playing under the pressure of expecting one goal to be enough to lose the game.

2) Once again we created some chances but did we ever look as if we would convert one? I feel that one of the main problems here is that we don't get anywhere near enough players into the penalty area.

3) We are far too slow in going forward. I don't mean that we should play long hopeful balls but we need to make runs past the front players to create more space & cause problems to defenders. Make them think & react instead of allowing them to sit in their comfortable position.

4) We are a nearly side. We are nearly good enough but we lack that little bit extra.

5) Once again the limitations of some of last season's heros shone brightly. I would never doubt the effort of Derry & Hill but they are not good enough to play any part in keeping us up.

6) Kenny is not commanding & does not transmit confidence to his defence. Perhaps he is carrying his injury with him but Cerny looks a lot more likely to make saves than Paddy. I have often read on boards that Kenny is a lot better on crosses but that attempt to cut out the ball in the first half was awful.

7) We are suffering from not being able to make the signings we required before the start of the season. This is due to our old ownership & was no fault of Neil. IMO in the Championship last season three centre forwards/goalscorers stood out. Swansea & Norwich signed Graham & Morrison & for some mad reason we allowed Maynard to stay rotting in Bristol (probably because we would offer nowhere near their valuation).

MH has half a month left to sign the help that we require to stay up but it will be difficult to convince players to join us when we look to be on a slide back to the Championship.

[Lonegunmen]

Since when did QPR employ the Red Sea? The way the defence parted for their goal.......Bothroyd's card, WTF? Was he trying to get sent off?

[0hwestlondon]

Well when we lose 4 players from our squad like we have we dont have the quality in depth to get us a result, the game was there for the winning today but we blew it, the two teams who came up with us would have beat newcastle today, Derry i hate to say it is not up to the prem, his passing today was piss poor, the first 25 minutes i thought a win was ours, but then we seemed to lose our way, Bothroyd cant hit a cows arse with a banjo, Mackie was our best player, he worked hard and others need to follow his work ethic and desire to win, MH needs to sign at least 5 players to keep us up.

[Macmoish]

The Wilkins QPR team that was relegated really wasn't so bad. But we went down... It's points. Not playing well that counts. And I'd say we played a lot better a couple months ago.
Of course, every player is trying his best. And i'm sure Hughes will add something with his coaching...But we so need that touch of luck to give some cofidence...Someone to score some goals to give us those wins..And enny to be as flawless as last season!

[Marc]

Jan 15, 2012 19:53:57 GMT Sabas said:

Jan 15, 2012 19:32:50 GMT Marc said:

What have the points got to do with anything? We're talking about the performance here. Teams player better than the opposition and lose every week, doesn't make there's a relegation performance.

We're in the position we are because we haven't played anywhere near as well as we did today. If we can keep it up and add the new players, as MH will do, then we'll stay up.

Better? Hmm. I would say we weren't worse. Our chances were mostly accidental and most shots on target - threatless.

I guess what Klr is trying to say is that we played like we're doomed.

Our chances were mostly accidental? Talk about desperation to see the negative! Yes, mistakes were made and the defence was piss poor when it came to the goal but MH has only been in charge a few days and hasn't had any time to make serious changes yet today was a far superior performance than anything we've produced in the last couple of months.

Honestly, they way some people here are making out that relegation is a certainty. It's January FFS, I'm so please that the people running the club don't think that way.

[Jon Doeman]

Wigan game is huge....no it's bigger than that, it's massive, make or break.

[Marc]

Jan 15, 2012 20:53:09 GMT Macmoish said:

The Wilkins QPR team that was relegated really wasn't so bad. But we went down... It's points. Not playing well that counts. And I'd say we played a lot better a couple months ago.
Of course, every player is trying his best. And i'm sure Hughes will add something with his coaching...But we so need that touch of luck to give some cofidence...Someone to score some goals to give us those wins..And enny to be as flawless as last season!

But that's just the point. We will get new players and we'll get the missing ones back. We were playing with the bare bones today.

[Macmoish]

SEVEN Wins needed....

[schuter82]

Wigan game is certainly huge.
Next 7:
Wigan
@villa
Wolves
blackburn
Fulham
Everton
Bolton

We need 12-15 points from those minimum I think.

[Sabas]

Jan 15, 2012 20:56:48 GMT Marc said:

Jan 15, 2012 19:53:57 GMT Sabas said:

Better? Hmm. I would say we weren't worse. Our chances were mostly accidental and most shots on target - threatless.

I guess what Klr is trying to say is that we played like we're doomed.

Our chances were mostly accidental? Talk about desperation to see the negative! Yes, mistakes were made and the defence was piss poor when it came to the goal but MH has only been in charge a few days and hasn't had any time to make serious changes yet today was a far superior performance than anything we've produced in the last couple of months.

Honestly, they way some people here are making out that relegation is a certainty. It's January FFS, I'm so please that the people running the club don't think that way.

I'm positive. But I don't feel the need to make positives up, when I don't see any. And I am not saying we are going to be relegated; I'm saying I agree with KLR that our players lack confidence and are playing with fear and doubt. That's what makes it a 'relegation performance'. By the end of the match we simply gave up and had nothing to offer.

I also think people rely too much on the transfer window. Firstly, we need to change our mentality. If we're crap, let's call ourselves underdogs and go for it. That's the attitude of Swansea and Jamie Mackie... But we're too rich and fancy to be called that. So who are we? What's the identity of this squad? Are we really just waiting for these new players to save us?

[Macmoish]

Over the next two weeks we'll see just how big an effort the owners actually make to avoid relegation...

[bradfieldhoop]

for what its worth and it is my optimistic view I thought we played exactly as i thought we would today--I hoped for a point and but for LY jumping in rather than standing up and pushing Best wide,we may have got one. I expected a lot of huff and puff but little end product--am I the only one who doesn't expect to see the net bulge when swp and jb are about to shoot! The midfield did exactly what I expected with no Ali,AT or even JB--run up blind alleys,misplace passes and finally run out of steam thus producing few goal scoring moves--that said ,the one that was created fell to bothroyd who quite clearly only uses his right foot to stand on! Alas he had to play as DJ looked like a teletubby at MK--I was stunned to see a pro so out of shape!
But all said and done something deep inside me tells me we will survive--maybe even in the last few minutes of the last match--I know its tough being a Hoop but keep the faith--have a view but keep the FAITH!

[desorchid]

Didn't see many good performances out there today.

Relegation nailed on if you can't beat a side that didn't turn up for the first 20mins and only had 1 shot.

And if we're going to moan about players off on African Cup Duty or out injured, we're kidding ourselves.

[Sabas]

Jan 15, 2012 21:34:24 GMT bradfieldhoop said:

for what its worth and it is my optimistic view I thought we played exactly as i thought we would today--I hoped for a point and but for LY jumping in rather than standing up and pushing Best wide,we may have got one. I expected a lot of huff and puff but little end product--am I the only one who doesn't expect to see the net bulge when swp and jb are about to shoot! The midfield did exactly what I expected with no Ali,AT or even JB--run up blind alleys,misplace passes and finally run out of steam thus producing few goal scoring moves--that said ,the one that was created fell to bothroyd who quite clearly only uses his right foot to stand on! Alas he had to play as DJ looked like a teletubby at MK--I was stunned to see a pro so out of shape!
But all said and done something deep inside me tells me we will survive--maybe even in the last few minutes of the last match--I know its tough being a Hoop but keep the faith--have a view but keep the FAITH!

Too bad there's no like buttons here...

What MK at least could have done is replace SWP with a teletubby or Ephraim. That probably wouldn't have worked anyway, but one has to try.

[Macmoish]

For those last 5 or 10 mins when had nothing to lose, I would have bought on Hogan or Campbell or Hall and taken off defender (or Derry)...Nothing to lose

[jjqpr]

We were garbage today...we can't score, doesn't matter how many chances you make, you argued against your own point, Newcastle created just 1 chance, and scored, so why should we be happy we created loads and didn't score 1?! if we'd created 100 I wouldn't have been any happier to lose 1-0...if we could score we'd have won comfortably, we were not good, but Newcastle were even worse. To avoid relegation there has to be 3 teams worse than us....that's THREE ...look at the form table and find just 1 team worse than us...there isn't one even close.
NW may have been right saying we were unlucky at the end of every game but unless our luck changes we're down its that simple.

[maudesfishnchips]

Jan 15, 2012 22:46:17 GMT jjqpr said:

We were garbage today...we can't score, doesn't matter how many chances you make, you argued against your own point, Newcastle created just 1 chance, and scored, so why should we be happy we created loads and didn't score 1?! if we'd created 100 I wouldn't have been any happier to lose 1-0...if we could score we'd have won comfortably, we were not good, but Newcastle were even worse. To avoid relegation there has to be 3 teams worse than us....that's THREE ...look at the form table and find just 1 team worse than us...there isn't one even close.
NW may have been right saying we were unlucky at the end of every game but unless our luck changes we're down its that simple.

we need not luck but a goalscorer, and midfield, possibly 2 defenders, and a goalie.

welcome to QPR mr hughes,

enjoy the ride. ;D