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Post by Jon Doeman on Jan 9, 2012 11:35:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 11:52:16 GMT
Don't be daft Jon I doubt this guy is able to read words that aren't written in very big letters!!!
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 9, 2012 11:59:08 GMT
I'm all for free speech but wish someone would delete/edit this thread title, makes me feel sad seeing it after all the work NW did for us. Clearly the guy who started this is an idiot!
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Post by alfaranger on Jan 9, 2012 12:03:49 GMT
I'm all for free speech but wish someone would delete/edit this thread title, makes me feel sad seeing it after all the work NW did for us. Clearly the guy who started this is an idiot! I think that seems to be the general opinion of most posters although Hitman hasnt posted yet, unless I've missed it. |
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Post by cpr on Jan 9, 2012 12:07:55 GMT
I'm all for free speech but wish someone would delete/edit this thread title, makes me feel sad seeing it after all the work NW did for us. Clearly the guy who started this is an idiot! I think that seems to be the general opinion of most posters although Hitman hasnt posted yet, unless I've missed it. That is so and posters have said so. Howver, I would not change the title because some don't like it, that's up to the original poster. Anyone reading the thread will see the majority view disagrees. I did change the Faurlin title on request as it was a tad misleading/out of date so different in my view. |
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Post by sirpiechucker on Jan 9, 2012 12:59:52 GMT
I totally disagree with the opening post but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
For me Warnock did a fabulous job to keep us in the Championship and another one to get us into the Premiership.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 9, 2012 13:30:35 GMT
Chelsea fan ......must be...to have a heading like that.
Warnock best manager in years, up there with the best.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 9, 2012 13:32:09 GMT
Chelsea fan ......must be...to have a heading like that. Warnock best manager in years, up there with the best. You and me are going to get in trouble if we keep calling people that ;D |
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Post by cpr on Jan 9, 2012 13:34:34 GMT
Here's a suggestion if you don't like the thread. Post your feelings on the Thanks Neil thread and let this one dander down the board. Won't happen though.  |
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 9, 2012 13:35:33 GMT
Here's a suggestion if you don't like the thread. Post your feelings on the Thanks Neil thread and let this one dander down the board. Won't happen though. bloody Chelsea fan ;D |
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Post by cpr on Jan 9, 2012 13:41:02 GMT
Here's a suggestion if you don't like the thread. Post your feelings on the Thanks Neil thread and let this one dander down the board. Won't happen though. bloody Chelsea fan ;D Gotta face facts mate, soon we'll have posh new training facilities, a sparkling academy supplying 1 out 10,000 to the first team, a great big new stadium, the west London powerhouse with super rich owners who are driven by business. Like I've said on another thread, whisper it quietly but we are to be the new......... Chels*** Best to start getting used to it I guess, interchangable fanbase etc blah blah.  |
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 9, 2012 13:42:32 GMT
Look who made it into the Guardian young Rory
A new documentary about life at QPR under Flavio Briatore and Bernie Ecclestone, The Four Year Plan, shows Neil Warnock arriving at Loftus Road to take up the job of manager. He walks past the home dressing room, whose door bears a sign with the words "Winners only" and says with a half-laugh: "We'll have to get rid of that."
The QPR Warnock took over in March 2010 were anything but winners – plunging towards relegation in a season that saw them run through three "permanent" managers and two caretakers. A little over a year later he'd led Rangers to the Championship title, playing often scintillating football. Which is why, today, you won't find many Rangers fans celebrating his departure.
In fact, across the main Rangers messageboards – Loft For Words, qprdot.org, We Are the Rangers Boys, QPR Report – you'll find thread after thread of deep disappointment. Even those who don't think he was the right man to keep Rangers in the Premier League aren't gloating, for in less than two years Warnock had done enough to be regarded by virtually all Loftus Road regulars as little short of a hero.
"I'd just like to thank you for all you done for QPR. You put the pride back into our club when we were the biggest laughing stock in football. You were responsible for giving us one of the best seasons we're likely to have. That's all. I'm too gutted to write anymore," wrote Snipper at Loft For Words. "This is a knee jerk reaction made by a man who has spent millions on a few 'household name' players and wanted instant success," said GaryT at qprdot.org.
"Thanks a million Neil Warnock you will be a hard act to follow," said NorfolkHoop at We Are the Rangers Boys. Or, as RorytheRanger put it at QPR Report: "We love you Neil Warnock." There was more – much, much more – along the same lines on all the boards.
I started questioning how long Warnock would last in W12 before the Hoops' current dismal run of two points from eight games began. By chance, I spent a large chunk of an evening out in November talking to an old pro – not a QPR player – who'd played for Warnock and was full of praise for him. "But," he said, "he doesn't do tactics. He admits that. He's a motivator."
That made me wonder how the players QPR brought in at the end of the summer would respond to him. After all, many of them had worked with managers for whom screaming "Up and at 'em!" took a very distant second place to constructing playing methods based on planning and tactics. It also made me wonder if it is possible to succeed in the top flight without having tactical know-how.
Certainly, many of those summer signings do not seem to have been giving their best for Warnock since that blissful early run that saw Newcastle United played off the park and Wolves beaten: Joey Barton's performances have prompted far more grumbling than anything Warnock's done, and the only unqualified success has been Luke Young. The best answer to the tactical query came from Rangers' two games against Norwich City, in November and January, when in both cases QPR lost after Paul Lambert made substitutions and reconfigured his team, with almost immediate results, while Warnock failed to respond. In the game at Loftus Road, Norwich's substitutions were followed by Clint Hill, the Rangers left-back, bellowing to the dug-out: "You've got to change it! It's F***ing five against four! They've got wing backs! You've got to change it." Change came there none, and moments later Norwich scored their winner.
That rabbit-in-the-headlights approach to strategy had become a feature at QPR. Why was Warnock picking only one striker at home, for a team struggling to score? Why were players being used out of position? Why was the willing but limited Jamie Mackie being used on the right wing instead of Shaun Wright-Phillips? Why was Adel Taarabt frozen out of the team for much of late autumn, when – for all the problems with him – he was the only midfielder capable of offering creativity to the team?
Rangers' owner, Tony Fernandes, knew that despite all Warnock's shortcomings he was adored by the fans. And so his tweets last night had the slightly self-pitying tone of a man who doesn't want to be unpopular: "I apologise to the fans I have upset by this decision," he said at one point. But, even so, he may well have felt the same as Warnock did on his arrival in west London: you only deserve to be called a winner if you're actually winning.
And so we bid farewell to Neil Warnock from W12 with some words posted on the web last night: "Neil Warnock is a legend for what he's done at QPR." They're not from Snipper or RorytheRanger. They're from Twitter, from – and I think you saw this coming – Tony Fernandes.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 9, 2012 13:46:44 GMT
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 9, 2012 13:48:36 GMT
Though perhaps as a gay icon with all that Warnock I love you gush ;D |
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Post by cpr on Jan 9, 2012 13:50:12 GMT
Should have put that on the thanks neil thread eus!  |
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 9, 2012 13:51:38 GMT
Should have put that on the thanks neil thread eus! it slags him off! |
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 9, 2012 14:26:56 GMT
Chelsea fan ......must be...to have a heading like that. Warnock best manager in years, up there with the best. You and me are going to get in trouble if we keep calling people that ;D Utimate insult....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 9, 2012 14:27:09 GMT
Chelsea fan ......must be...to have a heading like that. Warnock best manager in years, up there with the best. You and me are going to get in trouble if we keep calling people that ;D  |
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 9, 2012 14:35:24 GMT
You and me are going to get in trouble if we keep calling people that ;D  |
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Post by bowranger on Jan 9, 2012 15:02:07 GMT
We must have been promoted by osmosis Spat coffee out my mouth at that, so good! |
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Post by royboy on Jan 9, 2012 16:15:41 GMT
Divide opinion?
I wish I could bring myself this refute this nonsense but it's simply pointless
I can only conclude you must support another club or it's a wind-up
Go off and support Man U if you want to support a team that always wins
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Post by magyarangol29 on Jan 9, 2012 17:18:38 GMT
OP is a c.ck. every club has them NW - Legend! Even more so for you and what he did for you than uss. |
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Post by haqpr1963 on Jan 9, 2012 17:31:53 GMT
OP is a c.ck. every club has them NW - Legend! Even more so for you and what he did for you than uss. Totally agree mate, you have to forgive him, apparently he gets paid for hitting a ball with a stick, have to agree with Mark Twain when it comes to that so called sport. NW did a lot more than we could ever have expected from him when he arrived. |
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Post by obk on Jan 9, 2012 17:49:44 GMT
Being a season ticket holder would have been an argument valid up to and including last season. This season though, I have been able to watch every single QPR match - home and away, all the way from Sweden. That telly thing is amazing isn't it?
As for sacking Warnock, it all depends on who they replace him with and what support the new manager will get. I think we are going down, our run in is just too difficult.
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 9, 2012 18:55:30 GMT
not sure about this thread, im glad he help us along the way to promotion last year but im also glad he has gone before he could take us straight back down.
he's the grand old duke of york, who had 10,000 men,
he march upto the top of the hill and he march them down again.
neil warnock = the grand ole duke!
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Post by cpr on Jan 9, 2012 19:08:32 GMT
not sure about this thread, im glad he help us along the way to promotion last year but im also glad he has gone before he could take us straight back down. he's the grand old duke of york, who had 10,000 men, he march upto the top of the hill and he march them down again. neil warnock = the grand ole duke! The thread's easy to understand. Good analogy, mildly amusing but because something happens once it doesn't follow it happens twice. However, it's immaterial as we'll never know with us will we? I have no problem if you feel no need to thank him for what he achieved, after all, trophies roll into our club all day long don't they! |
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Post by londonranger on Jan 9, 2012 19:11:04 GMT
What was the gay icon post about?
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 9, 2012 19:17:46 GMT
not sure about this thread, im glad he help us along the way to promotion last year but im also glad he has gone before he could take us straight back down. he's the grand old duke of york, who had 10,000 men, he march upto the top of the hill and he march them down again. neil warnock = the grand ole duke! The thread's easy to understand. Good analogy, mildly amusing but because something happens once it doesn't follow it happens twice. However, it's immaterial as we'll never know with us will we? I have no problem if you feel no need to thank him for what he achieved, after all, trophies roll into our club all day long don't they! this thread is not about thanking him cpr but if you click on this link for the thankyou neil you will see what i wrote yesterday. qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=28766&page=1just for you qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=28766&page=1 |
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 9, 2012 19:17:50 GMT
What was the gay icon post about? It's just harmless, good natured banter. It's Eusebio's take on Rory's fame due to Rory's quote about Warnock in the Guardian piece. |
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Post by toboboly on Jan 10, 2012 12:16:16 GMT
I know this will divide opinion however please consider the following points? Neil Warnock is not a good manager or even a "man manager" as often described. 1) His handling of Taraabt is shocking, publicly slating him at every opportunity, and going public is not professional or good management strategy. 2) Playing SWP out of position behind Jamie Mackie literally shows incompetence of not knowing the player he even signed? 3) Admiring every other teams subs bench saying how he wished he had a bench like that. So how would you feel if you were a QPR sub, Very undervalued I would guess. 4) Moaning more about referees and individual mistakes than trying to fix our scoring problems ? Thats poor time management full stop. 5) Signing Macheda, by all accounts a very average player who has scored 4 goals in 3 seasons ( Thats going to solve our up front issues) 6) Trying to sign another 30+ injury prone forward in Andy Johnson makes me question his judgment. 7) Signing Kieron Dyer................ No explanation needed ! 8) Team formations at home more akin to trying to get a point away from home!! ( ie: Sunderland) Finally and as if thats not enough could you imagine if we had have signed some players that he wanted....Well think of this then Danny Graham would have been a left back now Jermain Defoe a centre half / possibly sweeper Ryan Bertrand a centre forward Nedham Onuhura a goalkeeper Andy Johnson could have spent a year in the gym David Beckham a club spokesman for QPR player! And if you dont believe me then cast your mind back to DANNY SHITTU being sent on as a centre forward against Leeds! shambles. Neil Warnock, not a good "man" manager or Manager come to think of it. Sorry I couldn't get beyond the original post. I am amazed at the thought processes of some of our fans. Criminally naive/incompetant is the best I can describe you as. |
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