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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 8:08:10 GMT
Which manager (or managers) is it that you want, that realistically would be prepared to take over for Warnock?
Who is it out there that's better?
If they're currently employed, realistically accept?
Mourinho for example, I somehow doubt.
Martin O'Neil has a job and obviously not?
Terry Venables 25 years ago, was G-D!
Curbishley hasn't done it since Charlton
Glen Hoddle? I don't see him saving the club?
Hughes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 8:32:49 GMT
Steve Claridge would be a popular choice  |
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Post by nomar on Jan 3, 2012 8:32:59 GMT
Loaded dice question.
As the OP has already shown you in his post above, any name you give will immediately be shot down in flames and you will be told that him/her is not worthy to succeed Warnock.
Posts like this are so predictable you can set your watch by them.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 8:38:26 GMT
I think that's fair to shoot down suggestions (or shall we say, respond)
If saying Warnock should be replaced, reasonable to want replacements...who realistically will come to QPR, in mid-season...
Could be the out of work managers... (Erickson, Hughes, Curbishley, Keegan, Venables, etc) or someone we need to poach... (From Premiership, Lower Leagues, abroad)
I just know there are a lot of managers who appear "hot" in their first job, and then don't do anything after...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 8:39:52 GMT
I think Guus Hiddink is out of work at the moment
I'm sure Chelsea wish they had got him back
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Post by nomar on Jan 3, 2012 8:48:16 GMT
I have no problem with debate.
But usually in these 'debates' there is the predetermined pose that the incumbent manager is the best and only man for the job and so no one anyone suggests is going to be given a chance.
If Warnock got hit by a bus tomorrow we'd have to find someone to replace him, right? So don't you think guys in charge keep tabs on who they'd go to if a sudden and unexpected change in circumstances happened?
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Post by thetfordranger on Jan 3, 2012 8:53:28 GMT
Rafa Benitez
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Post by mikehunt on Jan 3, 2012 9:23:15 GMT
we are in a position we have never ever been before, and by that i mean we do not have to get an out of work manager. thats not our only choice.
too late whoever we get though.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 10:07:11 GMT
Ray Harford we took from WBA and Jim Smith from Oxford. And of course Terry Venables from Palace  |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 10:08:11 GMT
Besides whether we "should/shouldn't" replace Warnock...Anyone think that Fernandes/Bhatia won't stick with Warnock to the end of the season?
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Post by The Scooter on Jan 3, 2012 10:13:19 GMT
Nigel Adkins would be a terrific appointment but I can't see him leaving Southampton for anyone outside the top 8 clubs at the moment.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at Molde is extremely highly though of. Gamble on someone so young and relatively inexperienced but still older than AVB and knows this division inside out.
Mark Hughes wouldn't come here - after his Fulham/Villa debacle in the summer, his ego wouldn't allow it.
Curbishley would, hypothetically, be the most realistic appointment but I can't see what he would do differently from Warnock to be honest - plus he's turned us down twice already.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 10:40:32 GMT
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Post by Markqpr on Jan 3, 2012 10:51:33 GMT
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer at Molde is extremely highly though of. Gamble on someone so young and relatively inexperienced but still older than AVB and knows this division inside out. Even though getting rid of Warnock is the last thing we should do right now, if we do, offering Solskjaer the job would then be the best thing we could do. By far the best young manager on the planet at the moment and as Scooter says, he has a wealth of knowledge of the Premiership. |
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Post by cpr on Jan 3, 2012 11:37:36 GMT
Good thread, one that demonstrates precisely the point I've been trying to make. It's oh so easy to list the deficiencies of Colin, they are not actually all that different to what they have always been, as they were last season but not a serious contender that could make a difference has been mentioned.
Until Solskjaer who I think is a great shout, young, enthusiastic, schooled in the right ways and going about his task well. Even if we went down I would be happy with him to build a side properly and more importantly he would put some emphasis on our own youth setup.
I was going to suggest someone like Eddie Howe but Solskjaer easilly trumps that call for me.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 3, 2012 11:42:13 GMT
I like the suggestion of Solskjaer but it's really hard to spell so maybe not ;D
Or Atkins from Southampton.
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 3, 2012 11:50:17 GMT
atkins,
hughes,
holloway and gerry francis double act,
mk dons manager.
vialli.
but all this is for nowt as we are already down and warnock wont be goind till may.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 3, 2012 11:52:15 GMT
I'm going to say this now and I am being serious here..... (not) Marc Bircham  |
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Post by alfaranger on Jan 3, 2012 11:58:08 GMT
A lot of differing and opposing opinions on this and the related thread. Good healthy stuff. We are a fickle lot aren't we. Give us a run of defeats and we can't see anything but disaster. Give us a run of victories and, well, do you remember those. The point is, we are in the place where most of us thought we would be. 17th, 18th, even 20th were the predictions. Here we are. For my part I think we will stay up and I hope that we stay up with NW as the manager. Go back to the end of last season. We were champions with a team that was not hugely expensive. We did have Adel scoring 19 goals, plenty of assists and putting in inspiring displays week after week. In the close season NW asks our millionaire owners for money to strengthen the squad. They give him 10p, drop him outside Aldi and make him catch a bus home. Most others shop at Harrods. He gets what he can pay for and one of them lasts 7 minutes. Adel makes it known he is too good for our team and wants away. TF then takes over and NW gets a lifeline and a bit more money, a BIT more money. Not enough to buy just ONE of the players that some other clubs are buying and we need players in number of areas. He has just 8 days. Most of the shops are empty and those that aren't have goods that are still on display for a reason, nobody else wants them, damaged, out of date etc. Thats all he has to pick from though. Adel still wants away and starts to leave work early. We suddenly have no goalkeepers fit. NW is not allowed an emergency loan unlike previous seasons and previous clubs. We lose by small margins to massive clubs with players that individually cost more than our whole squad and we're still not bottom. We are going to lose 2 of our best players to the African cup for a month and our best player may not come back. We look forward to our first game in January with renewed hope but actually nothing has changed yet has it, and we lose when our captain is sent of after a 'Renaldo Wink', probably the best he's played as well. January IS a 'New Hope' because NW never has had the money and the time TOGETHER to try and balance the team until now.
I have seen posts saying that NW has 'always' taken a team down from the premiership. You actually cant have an 'always' in the singular. NW has taken one team up and they weren't in any better a position than QPR, probably less money. West Ham 'cheated' over the signing of Tevez and Mascherano and as a result of that cheat Tevez scored goals that kept West Ham in the premiership and condemned NW's Sheffield. He was right to feel a little aggrieved. NW gets my vote until I see how he gets on with his opportunity this January.
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 3, 2012 11:59:44 GMT
Adkins would make most sense of the names being braded here. I think we should probably stick with NW now whatever happens, i think it is too late to make a massive difference (sunderland timed it right, a few games BEFORE the transfer window opened)...if we get rid of NW now any influence on signings a top new manager would have brought in will be wasted. I think IF we stay up we should still probably consider that NW has taken us as far as he can, I really like the guy but if we want to be as serious as the money the investors have put in to us, we do need someone better with a bigger influence on some top players we could get in possibly. Lets see what happens in the next few weeks both on and off the pitch though  In an ideal world NW has got some aces up his sleeve and we'll be safe |
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Post by klr on Jan 3, 2012 12:02:22 GMT
Remember who got us here in the first place.
He deserves the season at the very least.
People are getting very "un qpr" like in these debates as of recent, lets face it, if ( I still dont think we will ) we do get relegated, then none of us will stop supporting QPR & QPR getting relegated is not a big deal in the wider scheme of things.
Things need to change in the next month, there needs to be a reaction & people need to step up to the plate, but we havent been as poor & hopeless as some people are trying to make out, we havent at any point looked like a rock bottom relegation team.
Rather go through this now in November, December & January than go through it in March & April.
Have faith in our team, the writing is not on the wall yet.
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 3, 2012 12:02:56 GMT
we have one of his aces in already, the free scoring maceada...... free, as in 3 goals in 3 years. cant wait to see his other aces.
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 3, 2012 12:10:38 GMT
Plenty of time for a new manager to save the side.....If the R's just want stability for the next couple of seasons I'd offer more $$ & get in Martin ONiell.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 3, 2012 12:13:29 GMT
Would never happen floridar, not a chance would Sunderland let him go a month after getting him.
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Post by FloridaR on Jan 3, 2012 12:17:02 GMT
Rory - He's worth a try...
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Post by cpr on Jan 3, 2012 12:27:41 GMT
Not really Florida, he's at the club he loved and supported as a lad, trying would be pointless. He's also over rated by many and the questions about Colin can be asked of him given his age now, which surprised me!  As for Adkins, there is something about that bloke I simply cannot stand, whether it's trust or something, I just don't know. I cannot fully put my finger on it, simply do not like him. Hey Rory, I know what you mean, that's why I copied and pasted Solskjaer ;D (just did it again) Let's face it, having a young Oli would be great for the club eh! |
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Post by cpr on Jan 3, 2012 12:29:22 GMT
Plus it would mean we could steal even more songs from United.  |
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 3, 2012 13:07:51 GMT
Even if it ends up being a wrong decision, I'd be proud of Fernandes/Bhatia for sticking with Warnock...After all we've had happen over the past few years
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 3, 2012 13:17:59 GMT
Why don't we ask this guy if we're going behave like him
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Post by superckat on Jan 3, 2012 13:29:22 GMT
Remember who got us here in the first place. He deserves the season at the very least. People are getting very "un qpr" like in these debates as of recent, lets face it, if ( I still dont think we will ) we do get relegated, then none of us will stop supporting QPR & QPR getting relegated is not a big deal in the wider scheme of things. Things need to change in the next month, there needs to be a reaction & people need to step up to the plate, but we havent been as poor & hopeless as some people are trying to make out, we havent at any point looked like a rock bottom relegation team. Rather go through this now in November, December & January than go through it in March & April. Have faith in our team, the writing is not on the wall yet. I'm not sure if I've ever said this before but... klr I agree with all of that. I think I'll go and lay down now  |
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Post by maudesfishnchips on Jan 3, 2012 14:17:17 GMT
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In an ideal world NW has got some aces up his sleeve and we'll be safe 
