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Post by cpr on Jan 2, 2012 17:54:22 GMT
Seen some thread titles.
I'll return when some semblence of sanity has.
Perhaps tomorrow eh! Chill and reflect, keep the knees under control.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 2, 2012 17:58:41 GMT
I don't think I can chill after that loss. I can't remember ever being this pissed off after a match before.
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Post by glastoranger on Jan 2, 2012 18:03:19 GMT
i've never said this before, but the ref robbed us, i see no lack of effort, we play some good football, just don't score enough, with a window to sort it out. we MUST stay behind NW and the team. they don't need us turning on them. Great thread cpr
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 2, 2012 18:06:05 GMT
We cant blame Luck every game, we hit the post here , there goaly saved it , we cant blame refs week in week out or RVP , we can only blame the Players and the Coaches , so where lies the blame then ?
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 2, 2012 18:06:31 GMT
thats all well and good but once we get these players, they need "time to bed in to the team" so probably in march we can expect them to star getting a few points on the board.
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Post by hitman34 on Jan 2, 2012 18:09:56 GMT
cant blame the players harlow, they were not standing around scratching their arses were they.
cant blame the opp for being better than us, cant blame the ref, linesman, pitch, floodlight, so it comes down to ONE person.
no one man is bigger than our beloved football club.
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Post by Jon Doeman on Jan 2, 2012 18:13:58 GMT
hitman34, please piss off to WATRBs, you'll fit right in.
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Post by blockhead on Jan 2, 2012 18:14:33 GMT
well you could always blame the opposition for being better than us, Lambert has never lost to Warnock, maybe he is good at football management or something.
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 2, 2012 18:16:15 GMT
cant blame the players harlow, they were not standing around scratching their arses were they. cant blame the opp for being better than us, cant blame the ref, linesman, pitch, floodlight, so it comes down to ONE person. no one man is bigger than our beloved football club. Well i'm not sure that some of the Players are not to blame , i suppose if your not a self motivated type then its the Coaching staffs job to motivate , who knows ?
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Post by blockhead on Jan 2, 2012 18:16:36 GMT
hitman34, please piss off to WATRBs, you'll fit right in. Please chillout. He has an opinion and is free to air it as you are, but we will never change others minds, we are sharing our seperate opinions, so refrain from telling others where to go. If you have problems, then contact a staff member.
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Post by glastoranger on Jan 2, 2012 18:25:06 GMT
since when was it a crime to try your hardest and come up short, if i saw lack of effort then fine have a go, i'll join you, there is half a season to go, nearly, rangers till i die, whatever division
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2012 18:37:27 GMT
We're all QPR fans. And we're all pretty upset. But let's not post anything that any of you might regret when have calmed down. Please...
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Post by jjqpr on Jan 2, 2012 18:49:50 GMT
cpr my good friend remember me? Have I joined at just the right moment?? ;D Trying very hard to keep the faith here, the next 5 or so games look like winnable fixtures and that could change everything!
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2012 19:01:15 GMT
Any friend of CPR... Welcome to the board
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 19:06:24 GMT
i've never said this before, but the ref robbed us, i see no lack of effort, we play some good football, just don't score enough, with a window to sort it out. we MUST stay behind NW and the team. they don't need us turning on them. Great thread cpr well said...ref and linos were appalling...not sure I've seen us play without effort yet, beaten by some good teams and made some silly mistakes but not without effort
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 2, 2012 19:06:39 GMT
Linesman and ref should be suspended after what looks like a terrible decision to send of Barton without either seeing the incident, that decision has cost us 3 points (we were leading and comfortable) norridge were shoite , worse team i have watched so far, and the game should be replayed.
Really glad i will be concentrating my money on fishing next season and wont have to watch this type of shoite.
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 19:06:50 GMT
hitman34, please piss off to WATRBs, you'll fit right in.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2012 19:07:31 GMT
The first goal we let in: That wasn't cos of Barton's dismissal (unless we were distracted)
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 19:11:12 GMT
The first goal we let in: That wasn't cos of Barton's dismissal (unless we were distracted) Apart from being down one man meant he didn't get closed down....nope todays result totally down to atrocious officials..
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Post by londonranger on Jan 2, 2012 19:21:08 GMT
Escalating the tension started by a member by another member is not in the best interests of this board; nor blog. The overarching scorning of board titles by another member is also in the service of firing people up.
The proposal for the firing of Warnock is a very probable and likeley result of the first half results plus today. Again, this blogsite allows differenes of opinion in all areas. It does not allow, nasty suggestions to other members and frowns on blanket criticisms. There are two sites going about same subject and a very reasonble dicussion and or disagreement are expected.
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Post by londonranger on Jan 2, 2012 19:22:42 GMT
This was refs first Prem match. Im sure they put senior linos on with him.
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 2, 2012 19:25:26 GMT
The first goal we let in: That wasn't cos of Barton's dismissal (unless we were distracted) Sorry it was, great hole in midefield where Barton patrols, no barton so pilkinton moves into vacant space and shoots. 2nd goal scored against a tiring team, why are they tired, cos they have had to cover for said missing player. All in all result down to poor officials, and match should be replayed.
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 2, 2012 19:27:59 GMT
Derry could have blocked their second goal...
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Post by scarletpimple on Jan 2, 2012 19:28:53 GMT
This was refs first Prem match. Im sure they put senior linos on with him. Fed up with the poor standard of refs and lino's in this league, ( you would expect better in the richest league in the world) and they are costing us points.
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Post by Macmoish on Jan 2, 2012 19:31:21 GMT
Over a season, it pretty much averages out. Sure we get bad calls against. So do other teams... It obviously hurt us today...But that's the breaks...
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Post by eusebio13 on Jan 2, 2012 19:35:35 GMT
Escalating the tension started by a member by another member is not in the best interests of this board; nor blog. The overarching scorning of board titles by another member is also in the service of firing people up. The proposal for the firing of Warnock is a very probable and likeley result of the first half results plus today. Again, this blogsite allows differenes of opinion in all areas. It does not allow, nasty suggestions to other members and frowns on blanket criticisms. There are two sites going about same subject and a very reasonble dicussion and or disagreement are expected. I don't know what this means? Are you saying that I shouldn't be disappointed that this members of this board are proposing sacking the most successful manager of our club in the last 18 years? The threads are embarrassing because its the kind of thing that Spurs fans whine on about and thought we were better than that. Our recent past should be enough for us to realise that chopping and changing managers gets you nowhere
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Post by RoryTheRanger on Jan 2, 2012 19:39:25 GMT
Let's look at some positives though. Adel has started to play well and was great today, our MOTM. SWP was played on the right when he came on and was superb. Macheda made his debut and looked sharp and dangerous even though he didn't do anything of note.
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Post by harlowranger on Jan 2, 2012 19:48:13 GMT
Derry should not have even been starting in my eye , we already have 4 defenders that are more than capable to defend !
Refs make bad calls all day long and this was a bad one but is everyone forgetting the simple fact that NO player in a Hooped shirt should EVER , EVER put the team and points in jeopardy by going up face to face like that at least Barton with his reputation your asking for trouble!
I'm not happy like the rest of you but it is pointless Changing NW , dont see what we will gain , it would not be long enough time or fair enough to anyone new coming in !
OK so can someone thats fully 100% satisfied answer me these with Honesty as after the last 2-3 games i'm starting to question NW's starting 11 , which, as someone on a messageboard maybe i shouldnt be as hes the Manager not me , what do i know , absolutely nothing !
So please if everyone thinks NW is doing things right , love to have an answer re the following points which i find myself questioning on a weekly basis ?
Why Do we start so negatively at Home looking more like a Team trying to get a point rather than three ?
Since the Stoke game , yes a terrible run but why have we looked flat at times , would you say we are fully motivated ??
Why did it take NW so long to get AT back in the Team from what ive seen every part of everyone of the 4 games hes played a part of hes nearly made man of match be it 20 or 80 minutes.
Why are we playing SWP out of position ?
Does everyone get the point of playing Derry in that role , sorry as much as Derry is a leader not understanding it yet time and time again its not working?
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Post by cpr on Jan 2, 2012 20:25:42 GMT
Never thought my little calm down thread would become such a good thread! Plenty of emotion and feeling, yes I was as pissed off as most on the final whistle but more so because it was bloody naaaridge and those pony officials, not a lack of ability and effort. Some great points raised and observations made, however, I'm way past sane and sober thought now. Worth a revisit in the morrow methinks.
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Post by terryb on Jan 2, 2012 20:29:50 GMT
All of my life I have stated that you can't blame a player if he is not good enough.
If he is not giving maximum effort that is a different matter.
At the moment I am not having a go at any player!
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