The 1947 Start to season !

[Lonegunmen]

Back when Brentford were a decent team??

[Macmoish]

From the following Season

[Macmoish]

And to repost what I posted a few months ago (in May)
1948 nostalgia...

QPR's First Championship-

This year marks the Diamond Anniversary of QPR's First Title and Promotion: Sixty Years ago, the 1947/1948 came to a close and QPR won the Third Division South Championship and promotion to the Second Division for the first time in their history.

QPR's manager that season was Dave Magnall. In goal was Reg Allen (still with QPR before moving on to Man United.) QPR's top scorer with 25 goals was C Hatton followed by D Boxshall with 13. Most appearances: Playing in 47 of the 48 League and cup games: Ivor Powell (who's still active sixty years later.).

From QPR Official Site - A POTTED HISTORY OF QPR (1882-2008)
"...In 1945/46 QPR finished top of the League they were in. They also got through to the Fifth Round of the Cup - the only time it was played on a two-leg basis. In 1947/48 they reached the Sixth Round of the Cup before losing to Derby after a replay, and on 26th April 1948 won promotion for the first time to the Second Division.
QPR spent four years in the Second Division, before they were relegated back to Division Three in 1952. Dave Mangnall left the club and his place was taken by Jack Taylor. In 1953 the first floodlights were installed at Loftus Road at a cost of £5,000, the first floodlit match being against Arsenal on 5th October. In 1959 Alec Stock joined the club as a manager, and signed Brian Bedford from Bournemouth.... QPR

From The Official History of Queens Park Rangers by Gordon acey (2000 Edition)
"1947-1948. "...Rangers made two costly signings. They paid their record fee of £2,000 fo George Smith the Bentford centre-half and the same figure to Wolverhampton Wanderers for Fred Ramscar....
....By now the crowds were into the mid 20,000 range for each game ...the title belong to Rangers who had now won promotion for the first time in their history....
...The increased revenue enable the club to make a very important purchase, that of the freehold of the ground together with the thirty nine houses adjoining in Ellersie and Loftus Roads. The cost of £26,250 was met by the issue of shares, which due to the club's success was fully taken up...
Before the start of the [1948-1949] season, Rangers became the first British club to make an official trip to Turkey..." (pp 67-68)

Brief Video of QPR from that year: In the FA CUP that year: - QPR vs Derby Video
Pathe Description: "Start of the FA (Football Association) Cup 6th round football match between Queen's Park Rangers and Derby County. Ball goes out to Harrison. Bad pass. Powell kicks the ball forward. Goalkeeper of Derby County collects ball as Heath rushes in and clears up field. Various shots of the game. Hartburn scores for QPR. Crowd cheering. Throw-in. Close up shot of cheerful Charlie Chester. Billy Steele (Steel) shoots. Goalkeeper partially saves, but ball goes back to Steele who scores from rebound. Crowd cheering. Steele to Morrison, Morrison to Stamps. Centre to Steele, back to Jackie Stamps (Stamp) and Smith clears. Leuty beats Heath in the air, to Steele to Morrison. Powell tackles and slices across goal area. Carter shoot but goalkeeper Allen clears. Steele collects and dribbles forward. Forward pass. Various shots of the game. Final score Queen's Park Rangers 1, Derby County 1." Pathe -

STILL PHOTOS Stll Photo 1 Still Photo II - The Supporters 1 - The Supporters II

QPR's hoops in 1948 (as opposed to their first season after promotion: QPR's "hoops in 1949") (replaced by Hoops again)


DIVISION THREE SOUTH - 1947/1948

Pld W D L GF GA Pts
1 Queens Park Rangers 42 26 9 7 74 37 61
2 Bournemouth & Boscombe Athleti 42 24 9 9 76 35 57
3 Walsall 42 21 9 12 70 40 51
4 Ipswich Town 42 23 3 16 67 61 49
5 Swansea Town 42 18 12 12 70 52 48
6 Notts County 42 19 8 15 68 59 46
7 Bristol City 42 18 7 17 77 65 43
8 Port Vale 42 16 11 15 63 54 43
9 Southend United 42 15 13 14 51 58 43
10 Reading 42 15 11 16 56 58 41
11 Exeter City 42 15 11 16 55 63 41
12 Newport County 42 14 13 15 61 73 41
13 Crystal Palace 42 13 13 16 49 49 39
14 Northampton Town 42 14 11 17 58 72 39
15 Watford 42 14 10 18 57 79 38
16 Swindon Town 42 10 16 16 41 46 36
17 Leyton Orient 42 13 10 19 51 73 36
18 Torquay United 42 11 13 18 63 62 35
19 Aldershot 42 10 15 17 45 67 35
20 Bristol Rovers 42 13 8 21 71 75 34
21 Norwich City 42 13 8 21 61 76 34
22 Brighton & Hove Albion 42 11 12 19 43 73 43
Table

1947-1948 Results: QPR's 1947-1948 Results:

www.soccerbase.com/league2.sd?competitionid=11&seasonid=77&teamid=2093


qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/05/qprs-first-title.html

[Lonegunmen]

Thread of the day for me, reading about players from the past and realising how many years of experience there are on this site.

[cpr]

Brilliant thread, more please. ;D

I was born in Hammersmith hospital, grew up in St Quintin Ave and attended Oxford Gardens primary school.

See how threads come together? As Zed alluded, plenty from the manor on here.

[ronski]

Hi Chaps if someone can tell me how to post pictures on here I have some team photos of this era for discussion.

[ronski]

They also coached me at school in the late sixties. Also back row right hand side next to Jeffers in the suit Alec Farmer lovely man.

I am sure that it is Jimmy Eggelstone Alec Farmer came later

[Bushman]

Sept 20, 2010 12:28:34 GMT ronski said:

They also coached me at school in the late sixties. Also back row right hand side next to Jeffers in the suit Alec Farmer lovely man.

I am sure that it is Jimmy Eggelstone Alec Farmer came later

Need to to get my eyes tested ronski your right it is Jimmy

[Bushman]

Sept 20, 2010 10:26:11 GMT cpr said:

Brilliant thread, more please. ;D

I was born in Hammersmith hospital, grew up in St Quintin Ave and attended Oxford Gardens primary school.

See how threads come together? As Zed alluded, plenty from the manor on here.

I was born in Queen Charlottes hospital grew up in Mardale St
next to the Flock and Shepherd pub off the Goldhawk Rd and went to St Stephens School opposite the Bush Police station.

My mother still lives in the Bush.

[londonranger]

For those that want to go to the best fish and chip shop in London, always go there when in town, Geales.

2 Farmer St, just up the Hill from Noting Hill Gate.

[abbeyranger]

Thanks for the posting. I started @ Rangers in Oct 1966 - Home to Grimsby ( 5-0 I think). Next game was the following march @ Wembley! I was hooked!

Do you have any recollection of my grandad - William Watts. I understood he was a green grocer and lived in Delgano Gardens?

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[cpr]

Dalgarno was right near me, don't know the name off the top of my head.

I remember the Storeys and the Bolts, both greengrocers in North Pole Road.

[abbeyranger]

Just a quick note about the Derby game. My Father went to both games and swore blind that Derby's equaliser in the home game came from a throw-in which should have been Rangers'!

[cpr]

Apologies, welcome Abbey ;D whereabouts are you now?

If that's not too nosey!!!! ;D

[abbeyranger]

Sept 21, 2010 16:26:07 GMT cpr said:

Dalgarno was right near me, don't know the name off the top of my head.

I remember the Storeys and the Bolts, both greengrocers in North Pole Road.

Thanks for the post. I was told his shop was near the "North Pole".

[abbeyranger]

Sept 21, 2010 16:27:00 GMT cpr said:

Apologies, welcome Abbey ;D whereabouts are you now?

If that's not too nosey!!!! ;D

Born & brought up in Newbury ( Older brother is a Reading fan!). Moved to Waltham Abbey over 25 yrs ago. Older brother lives in New Zealand and asks me to visit him. However, I'd miss too many games!

[Macmoish]

Welcome Abbey Ranger

And many thanks ronski for the photo. Hopefully more to come!

[Zamoraaaah]

Welcome AbbeyRanger.
I also lived round the corner from Delgano Gdns. for a while.
A few years later though.

This site may be of interest to you.
www.openage.co.uk/st%20quintin%20history%20for%20website/page_15.htm

[abbeyranger]

HarlowRanger,
I've spoken to an elderly chap who lives near you - Roydon. He worked for Lloyds during the war and they were evacuated from the city to Denham in Bucks. He played for Rangers in the war, AND CYCLED TO AND FROM GAMES ! He told me he was knocked out at one game, and still cycled back to Roydon, but he couldn't remember anything about the journey!

[abbeyranger]

Zed,
Thanks for the link. I think Dad went to Oxford Gardens school in the 1930's (went on to Regent's St. Poly). Great Grandad lived in Latimer Road from the 1880's to 1916. He had load's of businesses, including, apparently, hiring out horse and carts for collecting laundry from the "big houses" in the West End. May be he took them to one of the local laundries in Latimer Road?

[Macmoish]

1947/48

[ronski]

I like to have a shot at naming those players
Back row ? Harry Daniels ? Don Mills Ted Reay John Hartburn
Middle row Alec Farmer Bert Smith Ivor Powell Reg Chapman Reg Allen Reg Saphin George Smith Jack Rose Jim Ecclestone Bill Heath
Seated John McEwan Alf Parkinson Arfur Jefferson Fred Durrant Cyril Hatton John Patterson Reg Dudley
On Floor Danny Boxall George Powell

Not to bad for an old " Tart "

[londonranger]

Alll correct Ronski, amazing memory and recognition. I could only do half of them.

[londonranger]

Actuallythe back row, the three on left, dont know either including tall guy with lots of black hair.

[Macmoish]

[harlowranger]

Thanks for everybodys input in this thread finding it pretty fascinating !
Welcome on Abbeyranger ! Another Essex boy ! And an R tucked away in little old Roydon too!
Funny only mentioned about the team of our last good run and look where we are now !
Amazing history keep it going!
Every mnute i get im going thro my old programmes past down to me seeing if i can tie things together!
Happy days !

[Markqpr]

One of the best threads ever on this board.

Thanks to everyone that has posted so far and to everyone else who contributes.

WE ARE QPR.

[blockhead]

I was born at queen charlottes, must have been a popular place to have babies!

[Lonegunmen]

Sept 21, 2010 16:44:39 GMT abbeyranger said:

Sept 21, 2010 16:27:00 GMT cpr said:

Apologies, welcome Abbey ;D whereabouts are you now?

If that's not too nosey!!!! ;D

Born & brought up in Newbury ( Older brother is a Reading fan!). Moved to Waltham Abbey over 25 yrs ago. Older brother lives in New Zealand and asks me to visit him. However, I'd miss too many games!

So come in late may, June or July.

[harlowranger]

The 47 team after 10 games -
9 wins 1 draw against current 8 wins 2 draws BUT THE 47 TEAM PLAYED 6 OF THE FIRST
28 pts equiv 26 pts 10 AT HOME , WHILE WE PLAYED 5 !

After 14 games a different story as in the next 4 games they won , drew , lost and lost
14 games THE 47 TEAM PLAYED 8 OF THE FIRST 14 AT HOME
10 wins 2 draws 2 defeats THE CURRENT TEAM WILL HAVE PLAYED 7
32 pts equivalent

If our current won 2 of the next 4 games we would equal the 32 pts tally of the 47 team !
Anything better than 2 wins from our next 4 would mean we have bettered that start from
over 60 years ago !
Either way both teams were remarkable really !
PS The 14th game i originally showed as 0-0 swindon, it was 2-0 loss !