Sousa Axe: QPR Report's WATRB Blog Posts

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As discussed in the other thread...
qprreport.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=10863

Back when (in the March-May 2009 Period) I had a WATRB Blog.
Below, unedited from what I wrote then, is what I "published" re Sousa et al.

These were just my views. Nothing special per se.


Sousa Out?
Posted 31-03-2009 at 05:24 AM by QPR Report
As noted on the dot.org, tabloid report that QPR looking to hire manager above Sousa - or Director of Football. Surely not a Director of Football given that we have Sporting Director...Unless....! Couldn't see Sousa staying if demoted.

To state obvious: Just because it's the tabloid doesn't at all mean it's incorrect.

If true, Pete's "Just reflecting my own views" makes more sense now
And if it's from the club itself: ****my. ****my


The Ethics of Leaking
Posted 31-03-2009 at 02:08 PM by QPR Report
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It's an interesting issue:

- Is it right that a certain club official or officials leak information to certain selected posters?

(Which is a very different issue of whether the information is interesting)

- Why does the official or officials do it? What do these officials get back in return? Is there an explicit of implied quid pro quo?

- Is it right that (true or untrue) stories should be leaked to the press?

Interesting subjects for debate


How Sousa Feels....
Posted 31-03-2009 at 03:08 PM by QPR Report

Imagine you're Sousa. And you read yet another story in the press about his future at the club.

So you're Sousa: Do you believe the story? Does it sound plausible? Do you feel that prominent people at the club are trying to send you a message? Do you feel that the club are not really supporting you.

What do you think? What do you do?

Waiting for the Other Shoe to Fall
Updated 01-04-2009 at 06:07 AM by QPR Report

So many stories re Sousa...So we wait for the other shoe to fall. Will there be a story in another tabloid? Will one of the local newspapers provide additional details re Sousa's future....

If accurate, QPR would be gong for their ninth manager (Permanent or Acting) in just over 36 months. And then the tenth manager probably wouldn't be far behind.

To me, if Sousa going/demoted is true, this is far. far more significant in its implications, than how one feels about how Paladini may be performing as Sporting Director (about which there can be - and obviously are - legitimate differences of view.)

Elsewhere: As I noted on my blog and messageboard: Found an interesting quote from a year by Amit Bhatia about their plans. Probably misquoted; or plans change; or meant somewhere else


Another Shoe Falls
Posted 01-04-2009 at 01:16 PM by QPR Report
And another story...A source...|

Wonder who this source is!

There was an insinuation on this site a couple of weeks ago that it was Mr. Pete himself. Surely not.


The Sousa Saga Continues
Posted 02-04-2009 at 06:39 AM by QPR Report
Despicable leaking from one wonders who (whom?) Certainly if Briatore wanted these direct or indirect leaks to stop, they'd stop.

The major protganoists for "Sousa Out" are Dexter for England, Pete and, seemingly Briatore!

Certainly the next time we have a manager doing well, those "questioning" Sousa, will have no case to make in seeking to quiet those questions.

Being A Paladini Acolyte
Posted 03-04-2009 at 08:09 AM by QPR Report

Some messageboard posters - in fact many messageboard posters - are wondering whether Paladini is in anyway the source for this series of Sousa-in-danger/Sousa-on-the-brink articles.
(Pete categorically nothing from him to newspaers and I take him at his word.)

Overall must be tough being a Paladini acolyte:

It must be tough. Never being able to criticize him.

Contorting oneself to fit one's position so it's in accordance with what's best for Paladini.

And the consistent resort to the mantra "He Saved the Club"

And seeming forgetting that the logical ultimate objective is to support QPR. Not to support one man - who five years ago was just entering the world of QPR.

And unlike the rest of us, is not involved with QPR just for the love of it. He's getting (reportedly well) paid for his QPR time.

Another Sousa Being Replaced Story
Posted 04-04-2009 at 08:58 AM by QPR Report
Way to go QPR. Way to go. Drip...Drip...Drip...Drip...

But the dam has now been broken. Never again will Pete be able to lambast a poster for criticizing the manager; for wondering whether he should continue. Or for anything else for that matter.

Another Day...Another Day of Pete's Sousa Bashing
Posted 05-04-2009 at 02:06 PM by QPR Report

One can't help having the strong feeling that certain elements within the club will be well pleased.

This goes far, far beyond a fair expression of views. This is an ongoing campaign of post after post after post after post.

And given the relationship previously evinced between Pete and Paladini, I - and I imagine quite a few others, find it extremely hard to believe that if this was not in furtherance of the agenda of others, then there would be a phone call made to Pete, to tamper this down.

And everyone who's read Pete's posts over the past 18 months on WATRB and his posts before that on the other sites, is very well aware of how careful Pete to not have publicly criticized the club. Or the manager. And has come out strongly against those who have done.

If the club wants to axe Sousa. Go ahead. But shame on them. If Paladini is so desperate to preserve his own job. So be it. But for an ostensible QPR fan to be doing this. Disgusting. Just disgusting. And long after the Sousa managership comes to an end, the stench and the shame will linger on.



Another QPR Coach Departs...Waiting For the Other Shoe to Drop

Updated 06-04-2009 at 01:02 PM by QPR Report

After all the talk of Sousa's departure, the axing of his assistant Bruno Oliveira - and the manner of doing so - makes it appear that the club are either on the point of axing Sousa - or, their presumed preferred option: Hoping Sousa will resign - Saving them money.

Given that Sousa hired Oliveira, don't see how he could accept the dismissal of his assistant (short of some terrible act committed by Oliveira)

This of course is the club that put Holloway, Penrice and Breaker on "Gardening Leave" for a year.

Seems more disgusting behavior from this club.

The OliveiraTermination and Hiring Statements
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That Other Shoe is Falling: Best of Luck to Sousa
Posted 09-04-2009 at 06:40 AM by QPR Report
Another sad day in QPR History. And not a time to be proud of how the club acts.

Albert Einstein's definition of insanity:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

QPR having had six managers (permanent and acting) in the past 18+ months. Eight in the past three years+.

Undoubtedly a few are happy with a Sousa departure. Far more - based on the Polls on the various sites suggest otherwise.

And the continuous campaign against him in the last month, by one specific individual was beyond the pale - and raises the suspicion (denied, but persisting) about the role of our Sporting Director. Certainly specific information release (if accurate) and now deleted, suggested that "someone" inside the organization was releasing information they had absolutely no business doing. A highly unprofessional, but not especially surprising act.

It will be interesting in years to come to follow Sousa's career and to wonder if like Fulham and Bobby Robson, people will be amazed at what QPR did. QPR took a gamble in the Sousa appointment. It seems bewildering that after taking that step, they're not prepared to stick till at least the first months of next season. The players have spoken very highly of him. All the arguments for keeping him are well known. And shared by most posters

As for the future: To be pragmatic. One may think how this club has its managerial system is crazy. But if the Chairman insists on operating things a certain way, and refuses to change this, then he should certainly appoint a COMPETENT coach - not just a yes man - who can comfortably operate within this system.

There's absolutely no point hiring someone, who say is the typical English manager type who insists on buying and selling the players; and then is unhappy when this is not allowed. Or when the Chairman gets more involved vis-a-vis the team than most chairman.

Those who want the big names - who don't know the championship, when they derided Sousa for this very same "flaw" seems illogical.
And those who want a De Canio return. All one knows is that very very rarely does a manager do as well on their second stint at a club as they initially did. (Examples of success welcome)

That the club seems determined to waste money on hiring and axing coaches rather than buying players. That the club doesn't seem to mind having not done well in the transfer market. So be it.

Presumably we all want the same thing. One would hope that the Chairman would have learned from experience. He doesn't have to acknowledge any errors he may have made. But to have internalized and learned from them.

We'll see.


"the Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut"Posted 11-04-2009 at 09:39 AM by QPR Report
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Sure sounds like Pete was citing confidential inside information to me.

"By the way the Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut n the deal."

I've posed this question repeatedly. Pete refuses to respond


Did Pete or Someone From WATRB Contact the Club and Tell Them About THE Post?

Posted 12-04-2009 at 08:17 PM by QPR Report

Besides WHERE Pete Got the Information From, Also WHY did Pete Respond re Sousa?

When THE post was made re Sousa's desire for a Portugese defender, WHY did Pete response (with that internal information - "[T]he Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut"

So how suddenly did Pete come into this information?
What was the process: Did Pete contact the club and tell them about that there was this poster saying what SOusa ostensibly said: And he needed some facts to refute the claims? Or to put Sousa in a bad light?

WHat exactly was this process?

And when is Pete going to respond to the real issues instead of creating straw arguments to respond to?


The Simple Questions That Pete Refuses to Answer
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Posted 12-04-2009 at 11:30 AM by QPR Report
Updated 12-04-2009 at 11:35 AM by QPR Report
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Much prevarication and attempts to distort the issue. No one is suggesting "This Site" got Sousa fired. People have suggested that Pete promoted an Axe-Sousa agenda with a slew of posts over the past month. And the question of whether Pete was acting as a "Stalking Horse" for anyone with the club remains unanswered.

More pertinantly: On that thread from that poster - which Pete protested on other sites that he really wasn't aware of until late in the day: Pete posted this statement "[T]he Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut"

Again: Sure sounds like Pete was citing confidential inside information to me.

I've posed this question repeatedly. Pete has repeatedly refused to respond to my query and this same query posed by others.

As for the rest: The fact that the post remained for so long. The thread was then locked with the caption "Due to legal implications this thread is now locked awaiting legal advice." and later removed with the post from Myu: "On advice we have deleted the thread. WATRBs cannot comment further at the time."

So it also makes wonder who was giving that legal advice; and why that post was subsequently put back up on WATRB - The Day that Sousa was axed.

It also poses the question about what contacts any club official or representative had with WATRB Moderators regarding that post, between the time the post first went up and the time that Sousa was axed.

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The Facts About Helguson's Signing - What Was Reported at The Time
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Posted 13-04-2009 at 10:37 AM by QPR Report
Updated 13-04-2009 at 10:44 AM by QPR Report
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This needs some cleaning up. And there may be additional bits out there
Taken from QPR Report Messageboard
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As posted on QPR Report Before his signing:


Thursday, October 16, 2008

QPR Snippets: QPR Player Interest?...QPR/International Action
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London Informer/Paul Warburton - On the Heidar
QPR are planning a raid for Heidar Helguson in their latest bid to beef up the team's firepower.
Rangers want the Icelandic international on loan from Bolton Wanderers after being turned down in a failed bid to land Michael Chopra from Sunderland.
The Black Cats want to hold on to the much-travelled forward as cover for Djibril Cisse and Kenwyne Jones.
QPR are also waiting in the wings for Leroy Lita. " London Informer

BBC Gossip Citing Daily Mirror -"Bolton striker Heidar Helguson is the latest QPR target after the Hoops failed with a move for Michael Chopra. (Daily Mirror) BBC Gossip No more in the Mirror itself: "QPR switch sights to Heidar Helguson
By Football Spy Bolton striker Heidar Helguson is the latest QPR target after the Hoops failed in a move for Michael Chopra." Mirror

(Obviously purely coincidentally, these two player names are ones I happen to have seen mentioned on QPR messageboards!)

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/10/snippets-qpr-player-interest.html


Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Video Man Ut-QPR ...Helguson to QPR?...Joe Lewis to QPR?...Another Mail QPR "Critique"...QPR Birthday
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- Brief Video from Manchester United - QPR

- ...In other non-QPR news: - World Football Rankings: England #10... Italian Prosecutors Want prison for Luiciani Moggi...Difficulties in club takeovers under current financial situation.


Bolton News/Marc Iles - Whites turn down ****tu loan move
WANDERERS have blocked a loan move from Derby County for Danny ****tu.
Rams boss Paul Jewell wanted to take the big centre-half to Pride Park for a month but was turned down by Gary Megson because of his own lack of defensive cover.
****tu has not figured since the 3-1 defeat to Arsenal in September yet remains the only other senior defender currently at his disposal with Nicky Hunt on loan at Birmingham City.
The Wanderers boss has admitted, however, that Heidar Helguson could be allowed to leave after QPR enquired about his services late last week. Bolton News -- [Helguson's stats and profile - Wikipedia]
qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/snippets-another-mail-qpr-critiqueqpr.html


Thursday, November 13, 2008

Snippets...Helguson Not Signing?... Buzsaky Out for Season...Top Young Players in England...Soccer Billionaires...Ex-QPR Birthday
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- Update: According to messageboard posts, Helguson deal may now be off.

- See Also: List of Top Young Players in England Also: The Soccer Billionaires Club - Including Lakshmi Mittal -- Also: The Importance and History of the League Cup (including 1967) and Managers under pressure via Web Critics.


QPR Official Site BUZSAKY BLOW
Akos Buzsaky has been ruled out for the remainder of the season, after sustaining an anterior cruciate ligament injury in the R's Carling Cup tie against Manchester United on Tuesday night.
The Magical Magyar limped out of the R's 1-0 defeat in the 33rd minute at Old Trafford, and following a scan last night, Head Physio Paul Hunter confirmed Rangers' worst fears.
"Unfortunately, Akos will be sidelined for between six to nine months," Hunter told www.qpr.co.uk.
"His studs got caught in the turf and his right knee twisted and regrettably, he now faces a long period out.
"We've seen the surgeon and he'll be going in for surgery in the coming days."
Caretaker Manager, Gareth Ainsworth, added: "It's a massive blow for us.
"Akos is a unique talent and he was just starting to hit peak form again following his spell on the sidelines at the start of the season with an ankle injury.
"I'm devastated we've lost him, but all we can do is offer him support and wish him all the best with his recovery." QPR


Heidar Helguson - BBC Gossip "QPR are hoping to secure the services of Bolton striker Heidar Helguson this week on loan, with a view to a permanent £1.5m move. (Various)" BBC Gossip


Dave McIntyre/Ealing Gazette - Helguson poised to join Rangers
QPR are today hoping to complete the signing of former Fulham striker Heidar Helguson on loan from Bolton. Helguson, 31, has struggled to get into Bolton's first team and has been plagued by injuries. The Icelander has played just one Premier League match this season but is a proven goalscorer at Championship level, having starred for Watford before joining Fulham for £1.3m in 2005. He spent two seasons with Fulham and joined Bolton in July last year. Helguson is one of several forwards recently targeted by Rangers, who failed with bids to land Michael Chopra from Sunderland and Caleb Folan from Hull City.Ealing Gazette


The Mirror QPR to sign Bolton striker Heidar Helguson for £1m
Bolton striker Heidar Helguson is signing for QPR in a £1million deal.
The Icelander was having a medical last night after Rangers agreed terms with Bolton.
Helguson, who joins on loan initially, is ready to take up a new challenge and QPR are matching his Premier League wages The Mirror
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Wednesday, November 12, 2008

QPR Hoping for Helguson...Agyemang Hoping to Play...Claim QPR Player Earning "Well in Excess of" £20,000 Per Week
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[As was also noted in today's Bolton News "The [Bolton] Wanderers boss has admitted, however, that Heidar Helguson could be allowed to leave after QPR enquired about his services late last week"]


MAIL -Goal-shy QPR seek to boost firepower by signing Bolton striker Helguson
- QPR are hoping to snap up Bolton striker Heidar Helguson this week on loan with a view to a £1.5m permanent switch.
- Helguson, 31, has been plagued by an ankle injury and has made only two appearances for Bolton this term.
- Rangers, who have scored just five goals in their past 10 league and cup games, were interested in Sunderland's Michael Chopra last week but the striker preferred to move back to his former club, Cardiff.
- The Championship side have now made former Watford and Fulham striker Helguson their main target. Mail

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/qpr-hoping-for-helguson.html


Thursday, November 13, 2008

Hegulson Off?...Balanta Loaned Out...Ex-QPR Updates: Padula ...Pickens.. Hollings Gardening Leave....Kanyuka Blamed...Steffan Moore....
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Also: Other football items: (some posted earlier): - : Gino Padula Update....John Hollins Placed on Gardening Leave ..... List of Top Young Players in England Also: The Soccer Billionaires Club - Including Lakshmi Mittal -- Also: The Importance and History of the League Cup (including 1967) and Managers under pressure via Web Critics.


QPR Official Site - BALANTA JOINS WYCOMBE ON LOAN
- Angelo Balanta has joined League Two side Wycombe Wanderers on a two month loan deal.
- The 18 year-old striker will remain with the Chairboys until January 14th 2009.
- Caretaker Manager, Gareth Ainsworth, told http://www.qpr.co.uk: "This move will be a valuable part of Angelo's development as a professional footballer.
- "Some of the best players in the current England squad, including David Beckham and Rio Ferdinand, were loaned out to lower League sides in the early part of their careers and the positives far out-weigh the negatives.
"It will be greatly beneficial for him to play for a Wycombe side currently flying high at the top of League Two."
Under the terms of the deal, Balanta - who will not be allowed to feature in the FA Cup - can be recalled after 28 days, at 24 hours notice."QPR


Wycombe Official Site Announcement
EXCLUSIVE: LOAN SIGNING UNVEILED
Wycombe Wanderers are delighted to announce the signing of a Championship striker on a two-month loan deal - and Blues fans can find out who it is by watching the Freeview player on the right-hand side of the homepage.
- The player is a promising youngster and will go straight into the squad for the home tie with Bradford City at Adams Park on Saturday, when he could make his debut in the light and dark blue quarters.
- What's more, you can watch an interview with manager Peter Taylor and the man himself in the video, while wwfc.com will reveal all of the details of the move later on this evening..."Wycombe


Helguson Deal Off: An "In the Know" on the messageboards says the Hegulson deal is off.
The latest news story has "Bolton are ready to let striker Heidar Helguson leave on loan, but will keep hold of defender Danny ****tu to go. Helguson is wanted by Championship side Queens Park Rangers, while Derby are keen to get ****tu on board.
Bolton boss Gary Megson confirmed contact had been made with Rangers over Icelander Helguson but ****tu - who arrived in the summer from Watford - will not be allowed to talk to Derby.
"There was contact from QPR but I can't say at the moment what will or won't happen," Megson said." Football 365

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Monday, November 17, 2008

Briatore Right. Di Canio Wrong About Mancienne...Helguson Back on?...Managerial Search Back on?
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Interesting Perspective

Dave McIntyre BBC606 - More ammunition for Briatore
- Michael Mancienne’s inclusion in the England squad is potentially bad news for those unhappy with Flavio Briatore’s involvement in team affairs at QPR.
- Like Samuel Di Carmine’s netbuster against Birmingham, news of Mancienne’s call-up will no doubt further convince Briatore that these football ‘experts’ aren’t all they’re cracked up to be, and that he should continue calling the shots.
- Briatore was keen for Rangers to sign Mancienne from Chelsea earlier this year, but former coach Gigi De Canio was against the move.
- De Canio, a man who otherwise had very little say over transfer dealings, managed to convince his bosses not to pursue the player.
- In fact, De Canio was at times reluctant to even select Mancienne when he was at Rangers.
- And even after the Italian was replaced with Iain Dowie, there was no firm move from Rangers to try and bring Mancienne back to Loftus Road.
- I agreed with De Canio and still don’t believe signing Mancienne would have been a good move for Rangers.
- But there are plenty others – England Under-21 boss Stuart Pearce and the vast majority of QPR fans for starters – who regard Mancienne as a top player.
- And since his loan move to Wolves, Mancienne has won new admirers and a place in Fabio Capello’s squad.
- Briatore was an admirer as well, so now has a ready-made response to those who say he should appoint a manager and give him control over buying players.
- And this after Di Carmine, a player he wanted in the team, smashed home a beauty against Birmingham while another of his preferred choices, Damiano Tommasi, won praise for his performance. Briatore has been on a roll.

It won’t last. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that.
- Tommasi, a 34-year-old who has suffered serious injuries to both knees, is beginning to struggle badly after a solid enough start, and was picked apart by Burnley’s youthful midfield on Saturday.

And while Di Carmine has some good attributes, he is not the answer to Rangers’ shortcomings up front.
- Heidar Helguson could be if he can get back his match sharpness and stay fit, but doubts about his long-term fitness led to his proposed transfer from Bolton stalling last week.
- Talks to try and salvage that move will take place over next couple of days, and Helguson could yet join Rangers before Saturday’s match against his former club Watford.
qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/briatore-right-di-canio-wrong-about.html


Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Helguson Apparently Coming
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London Informer/Paul Warburton
"...About a pace behind the new man through the QPR entrance will follow Heidar Helguson. The loan deal for the Bolton forward was scuppered on Friday after the Icelander failed a medical.
But a frantic re-negotiation amid the search for the new manager has landed the ex-Fulham player until January with Bolton now paying half his £16,000-a-week wages.
If Helguson breaks down with injury, he returns straight away to The Reebok." London Informer

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/helguson-apparently-coming.html



Thursday, November 20, 2008

Helguson Today?...Sousa Snippets...Flashback: "The Fall and Fall of QPR"...Recalling Leeds 6 QPR 1...Two Ex-QPR Birthdays
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Mirror - Bolton striker Heidar Helguson to join QPR on loan
Bolton striker Heidar Helguson will sign for QPR today in a loan that could lead to a £1million switch.
The Icelandic hitman's on-off move to London was officially sorted out last night and he is joining until January in an attempt to prove he is free of injury worries.
Helguson's arrival will alert Championship rivals Wolves, who are willing to pay £1.5m for Rangers' top scorer Dexter Blackstock." Mirror


From BBC Gossip
- QPR are set to sign Bolton striker Heidar Helguson in a loan move that could lead to a permanent £1m switch. (Daily Mirror)
- QPR owner Flavio Briatore will continue to have a hands-on approach to picking the team after appointing Paulo Sousa as first team coach. (Daily Mirror)
- Former Portugal international Sousa has been told he will have money to spend in the January transfer window, and that he is in sole charge of first team affairs. (The Times)
- Sousa was recommended to QPR by Chelsea boss Luiz Felipe Scolari, and he also took advice from the Brazilian before accepting the Loftus Road job. (The Times)
- Briatore wanted to give the QPR job to caretaker boss Gareth Ainsworth but co-owner Bernie Ecclestone, vice-chairman Amit Bhatia and sporting director Gianni Paldini convinced him that Ainsworth was too big a gamble. (The Times)
- Former Inter Milan coach Roberto Mancini, who is learning English in London, turned down the QPR job because he did not want to work in the Championship. (The Times) BBC Gossip

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/sousa-summary-snippetsflashback-fall.html


Thursday, November 20, 2008

Helguson Finally Joins QPR on Loan and an Assessment of Helguson
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Bolton's Icelandic Forward, Heidar Helguson joins QPR on loan till the end of January. Because of injuries, he's played once this season in the League.

QPR Official Site - EXCLUSIVE: HEIDAR'S A HOOP
Queens Park Rangers Football Club is delighted to announce the arrival of Bolton Wanderers' striker Heidar Helguson, on an emergency loan deal.
The 31 year-old has put pen to paper on a deal until the end of January and goes straight in to the R's squad for the Coca Cola Championship fixture against his former Club, Watford, on Saturday.
Helguson, who has made over 40 appearances for his native Iceland, scored the only goal of the game for his country against Malta last night (Wednesday).
QPR


And Part II


Dave McIntyre - BBC606 re Helguson "Right man, unfortunate timing"
- A fully-fit Heidar Helguson will be an asset for QPR – it’s just a shame for them that his arrival follows news that Akos Buzsaky will miss the rest of the season.
-One player doesn’t make a team, but it’s hard to see how Rangers can sustain a genuine promotion bid without Buzsaky.
-The possible signing of Ben Watson from Crystal Palace in January would be a boost, and it's now very important Rangers get that deal done.
- Watson is no Buzsaky, but he is an excellent attacking midfielder at Championship level and at 23, has lots of potential.
- His signing might previously have been seen as at best a bonus and, at worst, pointless. But it's now a necessity.
- Buzsaky is QPR's best player, despite the hype surrounding some of the summer signings, and he was close to getting back to his best following an ankle problem.
- The worry now has to be whether he can rediscover his best form after two nasty injuries in quick succession.
- If he can, he will be a major player for Rangers next season and would comfortably manage the step up in class were they to get promoted.
- Helguson has struggled to make an impact in the top division but has shown he is at least a very good Championship forward.
- If he gets his sharpness back, he’ll be a far more sensible signing than the vastly overpriced Caleb Folan or Michael Chopra would have been.
- He has been on Rangers’ shortlist of possible signings for some time and Rangers have turned to him after failing with bids to sign Chopra from Sunderland and Folan from Hull.
- Doubts about Helguson’s long-term fitness led to his proposed move from Bolton stalling last week, but talks to try and salvage the deal resulted in an agreement being reached.
- Helguson is a very good and clever player, similar in some ways to Kevin Gallen but stronger in the air and a better finisher.
- He works hard, holds the ball up well, can score goals and brings others into the game.
That’s exactly the kind of forward Rangers have needed; a link man who can bring the best out of their attacking midfield players – especially Buzsaky – while not only providing a physical presence alongside someone like Blackstock, but also weighing in with goals of their own.
Helguson, if he gets fit and stays fit, can do all that. It’s just a pity for Rangers that Buzsaky isn’t going to be involved. BBC606

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/helguson-finally-joins-qpr-on-loan.html


Saturday, November 22, 2008

Helguson Returned to Bolton? (Messageboard Rumour) ....Half Time: QPR Being Crushed 3-0 by Watford
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And that's it...!

Heidar Helguson is not in the team or on the bench today. The norm would be to assume he's injured or the manager(s) wanted to bring in slowly - even though with injuries, that would be strange. No reason given for his absence on the QPR Official Site Team Announcement. Two or three posters on the boards are saying he's returned to Bolton. But nothing on Bolton's Official Site (or QPR's official site) or from Bolton posters. (And he's listed as onloan to QPR on the Bolton and QPR site) So it may just be board rumour. A classic "Stay Tuned!"

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/half-time-qpr-being-crushed-3.html


Saturday, November 22, 2008

Helguson's Move to QPR Off (Back at Bolton)
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The "crazee" rumour, posted earlier, is apparently fact. The Helguson-to-QPR loan is off. (As reported by numerous posters on various QPR messageboards.) The only thing missing: It's not been announced yet by QPR or Bolton; and it's not yet been reported in the press. [Interestingly the original Bolton announcement seems no longer to be on the site!]

Bolton Fans Know Nothing More...

BURNDEN ACES - CONFUSION OVER HELGUSON LOAN
There are rumours coming out of West London that Heidar Helguson's loan deal with Queens Park Rangers has been cancelled and the player has returned to Bolton.
The Iceland international moved to QPR on Thursday and was expected to be in the squad to face Watford on Saturday afternoon.
Rumours before the game, which QPR lost 3-0, were that the 31-year-old had picked up an injury in training and had returned to the Reebok Stadium.
Neither club have had anything to say on the matter, but should this rumour turn out to be true, we will bring you more news as soon as we get it. Burnden Aces

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Monday, November 24, 2008

Helguson Deal Breaks Down...Off to Charlton?
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- As rumoured on the mesageboards and on QPR Report since Saturday, but not yet announced by either club. (Bolton have removed the signing announcement from their site

The Telegraph:
"...However, Sousa will not be able to count on the services of Bolton's Heidar Helguson after a proposed loan move to QPR collapsed for a second time. Negotiations with sporting director Gianni Paladini broke down yesterday after QPR changed the terms of the deal.
If the new manager did not realise the pressures that go with joining the richest club in the country, outside the Premier League, he does now." Telegraph

The Guardian
'...In the Championship, Heidar Helguson has thumbed his nose at QPR, and will get the bus down to Charlton ... The Guardian


The SIGNING ANNOUNCEMENT
QPR Official Site - EXCLUSIVE: HEIDAR'S A HOOP
Queens Park Rangers Football Club is delighted to announce the arrival of Bolton Wanderers' striker Heidar Helguson, on an emergency loan deal.
The 31 year-old has put pen to paper on a deal until the end of January and goes straight in to the R's squad for the Coca Cola Championship fixture against his former Club, Watford, on Saturday.
Helguson, who has made over 40 appearances for his native Iceland, scored the only goal of the game for his country against Malta last night (Wednesday).

Bolton's Official Site re Helguson site (since removed from site)
- "...The Iceland international will stay at Loftus Road until the end of January."


Tribal Football reported "QPR are still to close a deal for Bolton Wanderers striker Heidar Helguson. The People says the R's bid to sign Helguson has collapsed for a second time - after the Bolton striker snubbed them over a change in the length of his loan deal. Helguson agreed to join Rangers until the start of January, but general boss Gianni Paladini demanded he signed until the end of the transfer window month." Tribal Football]

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Monday, November 24, 2008

Bolton's Helguson Off to...Charlton!
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Mirror/Alan Nixon -Bolton striker Heidar Helguson snubs QPR to sign for Charlton
- Bolton striker Heidar Helguson is signing for Charlton today - in time to make a controversial debut against QPR.
- The Icelandic star walked out on Rangers at the weekend when they tried to change the terms of his loan move from Wanderers - and now he could come back to haunt them.
- Helguson has agreed to join managerless Charlton until the start of January - with a view to a permanent deal - and he will be thrown in for a debut at Rangers tomorrow.
- Helguson's on-off transfer to the Hoops collapsed when the London outfit demanded that he signed for them until January 31, a date that would have stopped him signing for any other club if it did not work out.
- The Bolton star was due to play for the Loftus Road club at Watford on Saturday but packed his bags hours before kick-off. He is now set to meet them under very different circumstance. Mirror

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/boltons-helguson-off-tocharlton.html


Monday, November 24, 2008

Helguson Loan Twist...Still Silence From QPR's Official Site
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This is Lancashire/Marc Iles - Helguson loan twist
- Heidar Helguson is back at the Reebok after his loan switch to QPR took a bizarre twist.
The Iceland international was due to make his debut in the Hoops’ game at Watford after the deal was officially announced by both clubs late last week.
But it later emerged that the move had not been completed, with Gary Megson claiming after Saturday’s game at Middlesbrough that the 31-year-old striker was still undecided as to whether he wanted to remain and fight for a place in the first team.
This is Lancashire

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/helguson-loan-twiststill-silence-from.html


Wednesday, November 26, 2008

After a Week of Sturm und Drang: Bolton's Helguson Joins QPR!
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- So Heidar Helguson is joining QPR on loan! Of course, many readers of messageboards would know about this revived deal. But then again, pretty much only messageboard readers would even be aware of all the Sturm und Drang of the past week; and that Heguson wasn't already at QPR. According to the two clubs' official sites, the deal was done and dusted - and announced - almost a week ago.
Also QPR announce that Mikele Leigertwood is suspended for one game (against Wolves!) after collecting his fifth booking of the season. QPR
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The Mirror - Striker Heidar Helguson completes QPR loan move
- Bolton striker Heidar Helguson finally signed for QPR on loan yesterday after a switch to Charlton stalled.
- The forward agreed a deal until January 1 when both parties will decide on a permanent move. Helguson's move to Rangers had twice fallen through in disputes over fitness, wages and the length of the loan contract. The Mirror


Marc Iles/This is Lancashire - Helguson loan move nearing a conclusion
- The mysterious case of Heidar Helguson’s loan move away from the Reebok would appear to finally be nearing a conclusion.
The Iceland international found himself in limbo over the weekend after rejecting a transfer to Loftus Road at the 11th hour on Friday afternoon.
Both clubs had earlier announced that the deal had been completed – but when he failed to appear for the Hoops’ defeat to Watford on Saturday, Charlton Athletic launched a rival bid of their own. The Ad****s’ offer was not to Wanderers’ liking and QPR came back with a second bid on Monday morning which is now being mulled over by the 31-year-old striker, pictured.
The mega-rich Championship club then submitted a revised offer – now being considered by the player – which would see Helguson move to London until mid-January.
Having found his first-team opportunities restricted since his £1.5million move from Fulham last summer, the striker is looking for a permanent move away from the Reebok.
His only Premier League appearance this season came as a substitute against his old club and his single start was in the Carling Cup defeat to Northampton Town.
Helguson was linked with loan moves to Norwich, Cardiff and Bristol City before the last transfer window closed. This is Lancashire

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/helguson-joining-qpr.html

Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Only from Bolton Learn "Helguson has finally completed a loan move [to QPR]"
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Reading QPR's Official site, you would never know that there had been any problem with the transfer since it was announced as having been completed last week. Instead from QPR you get today the risible ostensible Helguson quote "When QPR showed their interest in me, I didn't hesitate in making the move."

Bolton Official Site - Heidar Is A Loan Ranger
Wed 26 Nov 2008
HEIDAR HELGUSON has finally completed a loan move to Coca Cola Championship outfit Queens Park Rangers.
The Iceland international will stay at Loftus Road until the 1st of January.
Since arriving at the Reebok Stadium in the summer of 2007 from Fulham, the 31 year-old has made 10 appearances for Wanderers, netting two goals. Bolton

QPR's Way of Ensuring People KNEW that Helguson was now at QPR was this post today. Nothing about he had just signed; and that the announcement last week from last week had become, for a while "inoperative."

QPR OFFICIAL SITE HELGUSON RARING TO GO -
November 26, 2008 = Buoyed by his recent goalscoring exploits for Iceland, Heidar Helguson is raring to go in a QPR shirt.
The 31 year-old, who could make his Rangers debut against Crystal Palace this weekend, can't wait to prove himself to the R's faithful.
"This is a good opportunity for me to play some First Team football," the Bolton Wanderers loanee told www.qpr.co.uk.
"I need to be playing regular football and hopefully I'll get the chance to do that here.
When QPR showed their interest in me, I didn't hesitate in making the move."
A scorer at Championship level for Watford in the past, Helguson is confident he can score the goals to fire Rangers up the Championship table.
"I've been brought here to score goals," he added.
"Of course it could take time to settle, like it does at any Club, but I am confident I can produce the goods for QPR."
Helguson will wear squad number 27. QPR

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/only-from-bolton-learn-helguson-has.html


Friday, November 28, 2008

Megson on Helguson/QPR: "[D]eal has been on, it has been off...unbelievable" --- Past Charles Sale Articles re QPR
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Visit the QPR Report Messageboard for additional material of interest! including:
- In the aftermath of his recent articles; some QPR Messageboard posters have been vociferously expressing their views about the Daily Mail's Charles Sale. So the logical next step: A look at his previous writings: The Daily Mail's Charles Sale on QPR
Also on the the QPR Report Messageboard :
- Other Clubs Reducing Prices because of VAT Cuts
- Updated Biography of Bernie Ecclestone (including re QPR)
- Spurs B*st*rds!


Leigh Journal/November 28 - Helguson loan deal done at last
- QPR will be given the option of signing Heidar Helguson after finally completing a loan move for the wantaway striker.
- The Championship club have agreed terms to take the Iceland international until mid-January.
- Helguson has made just two appearances for Wanderers all season and was told by Gary Megson that he was not in his first-team plans. Should the deal be officially completed by the end of business today, he could make his Hoops debut tomorrow against Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park.
- “It is not a criticism of QPR but I do feel a bit sorry for Heidar at the moment,” Megson explained. “The deal has been on, it has been off, it has been unbelievable.
- “But now I understand that the deal is back on and they have the option of signing him at the end of January.”
- Megson has stepped-up his search for players but ruled out any move for highly-rated Hapoel Petach Tikva striker Shimon Abu Hazeira.
- Worried about the size of his squad, the Whites boss admits he is under pressure to bring in signings in the new year.
“It’s been a worry and we’re getting close towards the window now,” he said. “The numbers in the squad have got to come up, but it’s got to be quality numbers as well. We don’t want to just bring players in for the sake of it.
“We won’t get through the second half of the season with the squad at the size it is at the moment.
“We know names of players we would like to bring in, but it’s not always that simple. It’s harder bringing players in during January than it actually is in July.” Leigh Journal

qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/11/megson-on-helguson-deal-deal-has-been.html



Saturday, December 20, 2008

Helguson's Permanent Move?...Preston Preview Big QPR...Rufus Brevett on QPR...Ben Watson on Transfer Speculation...QPR and "Coaching for Hope"
qprreport.blogspot.com/2008/12/helgusons-permanent-qpr-moveex-qpr.html
This is Lancashire: Helguson's Permanent Move to QPR
- "....It also looks a case of when, and not if, Heidar Helguson’s move to QPR is made permanent.
- The Iceland international is currently on loan at Loftus Road but as a stipulation of his contract, can transfer clubs in January if he completes a certain number of games.
- “A lot of the time Heidar hasn’t played it has been down to the form of Nicolas Anelka, Johan Elmander or Kevin Davies,” [Gary Megson] said. “He had one or two injuries in between but has been fine for a while now.
- “He’s got an opportunity down at QPR and there is something that will trigger after a couple of games. He is playing them at the moment and scored on Saturday, so he’s doing well for them.” This is Lancashire




And final Part III: The Signing


Friday, January 02, 2009

Helguson Signs for QPR...Bolton Happy With ****tu
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QPR Official Site - EXCLUSIVE: R'S CLINCH HELGUSON SIGNING
- Queens Park Rangers Football Club is delighted to confirm the permanent signing of striker Heidar Helguson.
- The 31 year-old Icelandic international has put pen to paper on a deal until the summer of 2011, after the R's agreed an undisclosed fee with Bolton Wanderers for his services.
- Helguson joined Rangers on loan in late November and has since gone on to make seven appearances, netting three goals in the process.
- Helguson said: "I have really enjoyed my loan spell here and I am happy that my future is sorted out.
"I believe we have a great opportunity to push on in the second half of the season and I am looking forward to playing my part in what promises to be an exciting future for this Club."
R's boss Paulo Sousa also expressed his delight at the news, commenting: "Heidar has proved to be a valuable addition to the squad in recent weeks and I am delighted we've managed to bring him here on a permanent deal.
"He is a proven goalscorer at this level and I'm sure QPR supporters will join me in welcoming him to our family."
QPR


Bolton Official Site - Helguson Completes QPR Transfer
- Heidar Helguson has completed his permanent switch to Championship outfit Queens Park Rangers for an undisclosed fee.
- The 31-year-old striker moved to Loftus Road on loan in late November and has now put pen to paper on a two-and-a-half-year deal at the club.
- The Iceland international made seven appearances for Rangers during his initial loan spell scoring three goals.
- Helguson joined Bolton Wanderers in the summer of 2007 and scored two goals for the Whites in ten outings." Bolton


Bolton Official Site - Megson Pleased With ****tu
- Gary Megson has praised Danny ****tu for his contribution in last weekend's match against Wigan Athletic.
The Bolton manager felt that the 28-year-old put in a steady performance on his return to the starting line-up, despite Wanderers' defeat to their local rivals.
Prior to the game, ****tu hadn't featured for the Whites since the 3-1 home loss to Arsenal on September 20.
In the time since, the former Watford man has waited patiently for his chance following the impressive form of defensive duo Gary Cahill and Andy O'Brien over the last three months.
Megson acknowledged that things didn't go to plan for the big defender when he made his debut for the club back in August against Northampton Town, but since then he believes that the Nigerian international has settled into life at the Reebok.
"He did well and I was pleased for him," commented Megson on ****tu's performance against Wigan Athletic.
"Danny didn't have the best of debuts against Northampton in the Carling Cup, but since then he has done okay.
"I think Danny did have a little bit more pressure on his shoulders going into the Wigan game, but I think it was the type of game that would suit him.
"He won a lot of headers, looked our main threat of getting a goal and hit the crossbar. I'm not sure if he got the final touch to the one that wasn't given by the referee but he was certainly in the right area." Bolton

qprreport.blogspot.com/2009/01/he....happy-with.html

Probably a few other postings I missed but that's basically how it was on QPR Report
Posted 13-04-2009 at 10:38 AM by QPR Report QPR Report is offline

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Pete's "Final Post" On Last Week - What He Doesn't Say
Posted 14-04-2009 at 11:40 AM by QPR Report
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No one deserves to be threatened. But Pete is too glib in his post and ignores some of the central questions.
Pete and Scott finally responded yesterday and said the club contacted them about the post. That raises other interesting questions - including the process by which the club got in touch with the original poster. And what role WATRB played re that.

The central one which I have asked and which have others have asked - but he has consistently refused to respond to: What is the source/and under what circumstances was Pete provided the information ?

When THE post was made re Sousa's desire for a Portugese defender, WHY did Pete respond (with that internal information - "[T]he Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut"

So how suddenly did Pete come into this information?
What was the process: Did Pete contact the club and tell them about that there was this poster saying what SOusa ostensibly said: And he needed some facts to refute the claims? Or to put Sousa in a bad light?

WHat exactly was this process?

And when is Pete going to respond to the real issues instead of creating straw arguments to respond to?

If Managers are going to be ousted for revealing confidential information...Should other club officials be treated any differently?


Pete's WATRB Post Today: Many Thanks .. My Last Post On Last Week

The most difficult week I've ever had being a QPR fan. From finger pointing to personal abuse, on which some think I am solely responsible. I carried the can for a post that I never posted and in the first instance was seen by fans to be written in favour of Paulo Sousa. I have no doubts it was written in favour, but when people need a scapegoat, its easy to lay the blame at someone who has been harping on about the continual tinkering and inept performances.

In hindsight, I went over the top but when you read other reports from other sites, opinion is pretty much the same on the way we played and the feeling we were going nowhere fast.

To win Saturday and to at last see football worth the entrance fee gave me at least some satisfaction, but the over-riding thing for me is my passion for this football club. I would do nothing to damage it and hopefully in 12 months time this sorry episode will be a thing of the past.

The next chapter of QPR is about to be written and I hope anyone who knows me, would know that I was giving an opinion, this was not shared by the majority, but at the end of the day it was opinion.

At times like this you know who your friends are and I would like to make a point of thanking them for their support at this very difficult time. I have felt very down over the last week and thanks to you, it has been easier to bear.


Pete/Schmete: Answer The Question!
Posted 15-04-2009 at 01:02 PM by QPR Report
Just transpose Pete: And



The Central unresolved question regarding the Sousa Poster and this site remains:

When THE post was made re Sousa's desire for a Portugese defender, WHY did Pete respond (with that internal information - "[T]he Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut." This is the central question, that many, many people have asked - and will continue to ask.

And how Pete suddenly come into this information? What was the process: Did he contact the club and tell them about that there was this poster saying what Sousa ostensibly said: And heneeded some facts to refute the claims? Or to put Sousa in a bad light?

If not: What exactly was this process?

And what was the exact circumstances after the club contacted WATRB: How did they get access to the Poster?





Any Change?
Posted 16-04-2009 at 07:13 AM by QPR Report
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After Monday's Statement and yesterday's "interview" with Briatore, we now have the club's official perspective of recent developments.

Meanwhile we have Blackstock's on the Nottingham Forest Official Site.

Whatever....Certainly QPR have had a number of people in the managerial position in the last year and a half (and throw in a couple of others for the previous couple of years).

With his next Managerial/Head Coach Appointment, it will be extremely interesting to see what lessons Briatore has learned regarding making such appointments.

Will there be any change in how and who's responsible for QPR buying players? How much money will actually spend? Will be signing strikers (something that until recently some posters felt we didn't really need)?

Whatever some posters may feel about how QPR operate, whatever appointment Briatore makes, has to be one that fits within how Briatore wants QPR to be run.

So appointing as manager/head coach, someone, no matter how good theoretically, who won't be happy/ won't be a fit with the Briatore system of operating, would be silly (or worse).

So whoever the appointment ends up being must be fully aware of, and fully comfortable with the system that Briatore wants.



What THAT Poster Said About Helguson/Cook Injuries

Posted 17-04-2009 at 07:48 AM by QPR Report

Moving beyond (for now) Pete's inside information about Sousa and the Portugese player (and where Pete got that information from and why he posted it).

And leaving aside (for now) the circumstances under which that post was put here; and remained here and was reinstated here.

And ignoring (for a moment) the termination of Sousa as QPR coach.

Just examining the claims of THAT Poster

Given what THAT poster claimed Sousa said re the Helguson, Cook fitness issues - and the club's refusal to sign a Portugese defender of forward that Sousa supposedly wanted..

I mean maybe Sousa never said this. Or maybe he said it, and wasn't true.

But IF he did say it, and if they were true, then one might think those are issues of some interest. (Surprised that Mr. Briatore didn't direct his comments also to that!)


And just to update:

Pete's post re Helguson on the dot.org: A strange one

""just for the record Helgusson never failed a medical, played and scored for Iceland 3 days before signing for QPR, nice piece on the official web-site, the day he signed."

Such as: Why Pete comments on one of the claims from that meeting. But not on how he got the information (for this) and of course that inside scoop re Sousa's Portugese player.

Very selective it might seem

[QPR Report]

What WAS the "Highly Confidential and Sensitive Information" Divulged by Sousa?

Posted 20-04-2009 at 06:48 AM by QPR Report
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Echoing the original club statement, Briatore "said" Sousa "was terminated, after he - without authority - divulged highly confidential and sensitive information. The Club, with legal advice, responded in this way to protect its position."

But what was that information:

- Surely it couldn't be that Blackstock went without his knowledge (since the club says not the case)

- Not Helguson failed a medical (since Pete says "...Just for the record Helgusson never failed a medical...")

- Not that the club failed to sign a Portugese Defender on a free (since Pete said "the Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut n the deal."

So what: Lopez Future? The fact we didn't sign a forward wanted by Sousa?


To Believe Pete...Or to Believe Sousa?
Posted 21-04-2009 at 06:14 AM by QPR Report
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First a poster comes along and posts on WATRB's site about purported comments from Sousa: I thought I read that Sousa denied this meeting. But whatever.

Let's just assume there really was this conversation. So Sousa went to the bother of having this conversation. Sousa's comments were full of inaccuracies (which Pete is able to "clarify" . And Sousa gets fired. People think because of things he said.

"[Sousa] went on to tell me that the day he became manager the board signed Helguson EVEN THOUGH he failed a medical!"

Pete clarifies: "Just for the record Helgusson never failed a medical, played and scored for Iceland 3 days before signing for QPR, nice piece on the official web-site, the day he signed."


Just as earlier: The poster reported Sousa said: "He wanted to bring in a left back from portugal who he said was exactaly what we needed, baring in mind this player was a FREE TRANSFER the board wouldnt back him."

Pete's response
"By the way the Portugal defender was wanted for £300,000 for which Sousa would have got a cut n the deal."

It's just so hard to know what to believe. Except we know that Sousa's no longer here, for the stated reasons we've heard.


Leaking Confidential Information - One Yardstick for All
Posted 23-04-2009 at 11:12 AM by QPR Report
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A very simple proposal: If any official is to be axed for leaking confidential information; then every official should be axed for leaking confidential information.

Unless there are some clear guidelines about what confidential information can be leaked. And what can't.

Who should set these guidelines: Should the be a club official who determines what confidential information is to be leaked and what is not.

[QPR Report]

And the bonus post!

So Is Pete Making a Threat/Warning to QPR Report?
Posted 26-04-2009 at 09:58 PM by QPR Report
So Pete makes a post on this board:

Is QPR Report..Ronnie Biggs??
Will we hear less of him in a few weeks time?

www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10697

I'll be honest: I don't actually understand what Pete means - But maybe something got lost from the Italian translation

Or maybe it's some kind implied threat or warning. Now that would be interesting: From the man who who rushed to the board spouting about Paladini's file on me. Have to wonder.

I guess we have to stay tuned. But for the man who serves at the voicepiece of Paladini, one has to wonder.


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lol

Ronnie is up for parole isnt he?
Posted 26-04-2009 at 10:20 PM by ScottJones ScottJones is offline
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So what do you think Pete meant. Pete who rushed from Paladini meetings with claims about files (I seem to recall you were there too, Scott!) And Pete who once made some assertion about the club being unhappy with me copyingQPR World video (Just a crap statement)...So Pete has a certain record.

So it's an extremely bizarre statement. I'm sure Pete's a little frustrated that his actions are not going to be forgotten. People aren't going to just move on.

I'm sure he's thinking hard to put forth a humourous but logical response..."Oh I didn't mean"
Posted 26-04-2009 at 11:06 PM by QPR Report QPR Report is offline
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Ronnie Biggs was involved in the great train robbery. It was simply, you have so much time on your hands, maybe next few weeks you will be more busy.

As for trying to twist the behaviour of the players onto Gianni or Flavio, well that is very funny. The supporters go to see the players, if they leave early, they are responsible. Its like saying it raining today over in London, lets blame Gianni. Your a very funny guy.

I have put up the video of the event to give you a feel of the night and to see your great hero Rodney Marsh in action, just enjoy it and stop these agendas, its getting very boring
Posted 27-04-2009 at 08:13 AM by qblockpete qblockpete is offline
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ONE of us has an agenda. And ONE of us surely seems to serve a de facto agent of certain a club official.

In the entire history of Messageboard posting, I can think on no other poster whose true agenda has been so questioned.
Your repeated failure to speak out about Paladini's signings...speaks volumes.
There is a reason why so many posters have so many doubts. And for the most part, it's not because of jealousy.
Posted 27-04-2009 at 08:25 AM by QPR Report QPR Report is offline
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I've given my opinion

Cerny, Buzz, Vine, Connolly, Gorkks quality signings.

Delaney, Ageymang Helgusson, Ramage, Routledge good signings.

Hall, Borrowdale not so good.

In all honesty, show me a club outside the top 4in the premiership where ALL signings have been a success.

Ronnie you have an agenda and anyone with half a brain would realise it.

Whats your opinion of the above players?
Posted 28-04-2009 at 11:33 AM by qblockpete qblockpete is offline
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Your Ronnie Biggs analogy makes as much sense as much of your other comments.

As for "Ronnie you have an agenda and anyone with half a brain would realise it. "

It seems to me that the person who acts as you have acted, Pete, is the one who is clearly pursuing the agenda.

At least my conscience is clear. I take no guidance or direction or instruction and promote no one's agenda other than my own personal beliefs.
Posted 28-04-2009 at 12:12 PM by QPR Report QPR Report is offline

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Wow. Took a while to read it all. Funny how he has changed his tune over some things. Saying HH, Gorkss, Delaney, Routledge are good signings! He changed his opinion on all of them!

The problem is that he lies and swerves and lies and swerves and lots of people would rather not get into an argument so let it slide.

I hope karma exists and he gets his comeuppance. He misjudged the Sousa situation very badly.

[QPR Report]

Of course when people say there was "a WATRB Campaign against Sousa" or that "WATRB is pro-Paladini" no one means by that, that most WATRB posters/visitors were anti-Sousa or are "pro-Paladini."

The overwhelming majority of QPR Fans are of course PRO-QPR, not pro-an-individual-at-any cost. And in the case of Sousa and Paladini have different views than those held by the one or two individuals running any site.

(Just as my views or the views of any of the moderators may or may not reflect/be shared by posters or visitors on this site. But anything I post on this site is purely the views as expressed by me)

So to avoid any possible misunderstanding: Very few people have any doubts now - or had any doubts at the time - about what was
done by the person running that site vis-a-vis Sousa then, and Paladini over the years.

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tht took me ages to read im nackard !

[Lonegunmen]

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