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Post by Marc on Oct 28, 2022 18:02:06 GMT
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Post by dan on Oct 28, 2022 19:07:16 GMT
Really???🙄 They score on that…..?
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 19:08:08 GMT
WTF, just logged in to see that replay.
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Post by nomar on Oct 28, 2022 19:11:44 GMT
If Dieng goes back on his line that's an easy save for him.
Oh well, I'm fairly confident we'll get back into this.
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Post by dan on Oct 28, 2022 19:21:36 GMT
Dykes back to kicking it straight to the goalie…
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 19:31:55 GMT
FFS Everyone stood off him.
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Post by nomar on Oct 28, 2022 19:33:29 GMT
This is going to be one of those nights when everything Birmingham does turns to gold and everything we do fails.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 19:39:15 GMT
Handball at the free kick
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 19:40:04 GMT
This is going to be one of those nights when everything Birmingham does turns to gold and everything we do fails. You mean our usual embarrassing TV appearance performance?
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Post by nomar on Oct 28, 2022 19:42:22 GMT
This is going to be one of those nights when everything Birmingham does turns to gold and everything we do fails. You mean our usual embarrassing TV appearance performance? Yes, normal sky TV service resumed.
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Post by Marc on Oct 28, 2022 19:55:20 GMT
The B team came back from 4-0 down this afternoon. Just saying.
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Post by gladstoneparkranger on Oct 28, 2022 19:59:00 GMT
Would have had Sinclair starting anyway .. and Dickie! There’s more goals in this game and could get worse but could get better so don’t give up hope.
Birmingham are a lot better side than there position in the league so a loss is no shame but curious how our reaction is to going two down. Fight or flight .. 🤞🏻Fight
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 20:08:08 GMT
Dykes guilty of Ball watching.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 20:15:06 GMT
Hannibal the Cannibal should have been sent off before being subbed.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 20:41:42 GMT
Wow, Dykes "really snotted" that one. My late Grandmother could have hit that better.
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Post by nomar on Oct 28, 2022 20:47:36 GMT
Wow, Dykes "really snotted" that one. My late Grandmother could have hit that better. Like I said, one of those nights. Every team has them in the Championship.
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Post by Lonegunmen on Oct 28, 2022 20:50:29 GMT
Good sportsmanship from Birmingham with the accidental kick to the face. It actually was a pure accident and their player immediately tried to assist him.
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Post by harr on Oct 28, 2022 21:06:37 GMT
We deserved nothing, just like at Luton we were shocking, as was Dykes. On top of that two injuries.
Crap night
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Post by rico on Oct 28, 2022 21:14:22 GMT
The injuries are a concern its always the same players JCS looks a player but cannot get a run going Roberts was injury prone at Leeds the championship is going to throw up indifferent results we just need to keep in the mix up until world cup break no one is running away yet
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Post by spanishal on Oct 28, 2022 21:27:23 GMT
Repeat of Luton game, seem to have no answer to teams who use the high press and they are catching on that’s the right tactics to use against QPR. First goal, a fluke but Senny way out of position. Do feel that a top form Senny might have saved the second one too. Poor performance all round , Mick Beales face said it all. Onwards but maybe not upwards.this time.
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 29, 2022 8:30:39 GMT
Repeat of Luton game, seem to have no answer to teams who use the high press and they are catching on that’s the right tactics to use against QPR. First goal, a fluke but Senny way out of position. Do feel that a top form Senny might have saved the second one too. Poor performance all round , Mick Beales face said it all. Onwards but maybe not upwards.this time. Yes, Eustace said pre-match that they had a game plan to beat QPR. That plan was to replicate what Luton had done. It represents a key challenge for Beale because teams have worked out how to set up against us and to stop us playing. By the time we get going, they are out of sight. Having said that, we have had some decisions go for us recently, Paal's looping goal, the Cardiff sending off and penalty, so we were overdue a fluke against us. Post-match, Eustace was honest about the Hannibal substitution. On the replays, the ref was staring straight at the challenge....it could have been a game changer. I thought Dykes looked all wrong for the penalty and Ruddy looked huge. There is something to be said for changing the penalty taker or changing technique ocassionally. It was a good save, but at a comfortable height. Sanderson had a decent game; I think that he will be ok, just had a bad loan at QPR. Looking like Clarke-Salter and Roberts are going to be sick notes and Johannsen has injured his ankle - hope Willock is back for Norwich. Richards not yet got going but needs to bulk up like Willock had to. He is too easily dispossessed. But as Beale said, if it was going to go wrong, it went wrong in that game.
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Post by kenthoop on Oct 29, 2022 9:29:47 GMT
the most inept display of refereeing I have ever seen ,but then it's Robinson so we should expect nothing else as it seems there is controversy ,big decisions he got wrong once again ,I really hope we don't get this clown again!!!
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Post by kerrins on Oct 29, 2022 9:48:50 GMT
Sadly we were not at our best. Cant win them all.
Unfortunately the old chestnut reared its ugly head again last night. Brum are really only an average team BUT like most teams in this division they have better strikers/Forwards than us...not difficult.
The point is their front players always looked far more likely than us to score and when they got a chance they took it. Simple. Without any power up front you cannot take the game to the opposition. Midfielders no matter how good cant do it on their own.
In my view it is absolutely vital we sign up a decent quality Championship Forward/striker.
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Post by nomar on Oct 29, 2022 10:19:52 GMT
Like I said yesterday, it was one of those games where we could have played all night and had a dozen penalties and we'd have missed them all and still not scored.
Just proves the old adage, never get too high when you win and never get too down when you lose.
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Post by kilburnhoop on Oct 29, 2022 10:59:14 GMT
I don't really get the comparison to the Luton game. We dominated possession and created far more chances. I agree they pressed us for about half an hour, but that was it. An absolute fluke first goal for the first. The second goal should not have stood, firstly for the foul on Balugon and secondly Hamibal actually lost control of the ball, it hit the ref and bounced back to him. Only the ref knows why he didn't blow up for a drop ball. The ref was pretty poor all night, Hanibal shoukd have seen red and everyone in the ground except the ref knew it. He decided to book Dickie instead😂. Its a shame Dykes missed the pen, I feel we would have got something out of the game if he had scored. I loved the fact we continued playing our football right up to the end and didn't go route one.
We are 2 points off second and have not played one single team who have outclassed us. Urrrrrrrrrrssssss
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 29, 2022 11:13:49 GMT
I don't really get the comparison to the Luton game. We dominated possession and created far more chances. I agree they pressed us for about half an hour, but that was it. An absolute fluke first goal for the first. The second goal should not have stood, firstly for the foul on Balugon and secondly Hamibal actually lost control of the ball, it hit the ref and bounced back to him. Only the ref knows why he didn't blow up for a drop ball. The ref was pretty poor all night, Hanibal shoukd have seen red and everyone in the ground except the ref knew it. He decided to book Dickie instead😂. Its a shame Dykes missed the pen, I feel we would have got something out of the game if he had scored. I loved the fact we continued playing our football right up to the end and didn't go route one. We are 2 points off second and have not played one single team who have outclassed us. Urrrrrrrrrrssssss The comparison is all about the first 30 minutes. If clubs sit back against us, we get on the front foot and dominate - we do not always get the goals that our front foot play merits though. When we have lost this season, it has usually been because teams have come at us strongly from the start - usually with aggression, winning the second ball. Teams cannot keep that level of intensity going (and that includes us) and so the second half is often very different with a more sitting back and breaking approach. Both Luton and Birmingham scored from that aggressive high intensity period, leaving us chasing the game. I agree that the first goal was a fluke and that there was a foul in the buildup to the second....and that the ref was awful. Sky gave a long explanation as to why the ref was correct when the ball hit him - it was news to me though!
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Post by kilburnhoop on Oct 29, 2022 11:50:41 GMT
Just to clarify FA rule 9
1. Ball out of play
The ball is out of play when: it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the airplay has been stopped by the referee it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:a team starts a promising attack or the ball goes directly into the goal or the team in possession of the ball changes
In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball.
Love to hear the refs explanation. He obviously doesn't know the rules....
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 29, 2022 12:27:36 GMT
Just to clarify FA rule 9 1. Ball out of play The ball is out of play when: it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the airplay has been stopped by the referee it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:a team starts a promising attack or the ball goes directly into the goal or the team in possession of the ball changes In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball. Love to hear the refs explanation. He obviously doesn't know the rules.... Well I can only recite what I recall Sky said, but it was something like... although the ball struck the ref, it did not change the completed pass, possession or give an advantage or disadvantage to either team. But I know nothing....like I said, it was news to me.
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Post by kenthoop on Oct 30, 2022 13:15:28 GMT
what Sky commentators said was irrelevant there is nothing in the rules about what they were trying to say, let's face it Robinson was awful , should have sent Hannibal off for continuous fouling ,as I said I hope we don't get this ref again
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Post by rickyqpr on Oct 30, 2022 13:29:42 GMT
what Sky commentators said was irrelevant there is nothing in the rules about what they were trying to say, let's face it Robinson was awful , should have sent Hannibal off for continuous fouling ,as I said I hope we don't get this ref again I have no idea what the rules says or means, Clive Whittington made reference to the 'no interruption' take on hitting the ref. There is obviously some confusion on this. Agree about Robinson though Extract below: They went two behind on the other side of the Clarke-Salter and Roberts exits. Referee Tim Robinson might have stopped the move at source for what looked like a foul (free kick for my money), could have done so again mid-flow when the ball struck him but decided to play on as it hadn’t interrupted the Birmingham possession (that one the right call in my opinion), but you still can’t allow the time and space afforded to Longelo to pick his spot from the edge of the box, and I’m actually more worried about Dieng getting beaten from there than anything he did for the first.
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